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00:00I don't have a relationship with Cody and Robin, I have moved on.
00:07I've been on a few dates, met some really nice guys.
00:10It's just fun. I really like it.
00:13I did take a trip up to Utah earlier this week.
00:17I decided I was going to move forward with the official termination through the church where we had gotten married.
00:27I had moved on a long time ago, but I was afraid of what she would do if I ripped off that Band-Aid.
00:37Larry told Cody she wouldn't undo Christmas with us this year because of what's going on between her and Cody.
00:46It just hit me so hard that I just don't get to have the perfect Christmas.
00:57This Christmas is the first Christmas where I was just glad that I was able to move forward with the termination of marriage.
01:07I'm just glad that I was able to move forward with the termination of marriage.
01:12I'm just glad that I was able to move forward with the termination of marriage.
01:17I'm just glad that I was able to move forward with the termination of marriage.
01:24This Christmas is the first Christmas where I was just with one wife and her children.
01:29Kids are waking up. We're going to open some presents.
01:32I'm doing my best to engage the family, to be happy about it.
01:36Really just engage, be present right here, right now in this moment.
01:45It wasn't my first Christmas without everybody else, but it was my first Christmas without Mary.
01:52There's so much that's unwrapped here. That's Cody.
01:59Robin likes to wrap all the presents. A lot of work, a lot of work, so we're usually up way, way late.
02:09So for Christmas this year, it's going to be Aspen and Mitch, McKelvie and Tony, and the babies, Isabel, Truly, and I.
02:16It's going to be definitely a smaller Christmas this year.
02:23Wait. No way. Guess what it is. It's a bobblehead. That is. That's hilarious. It is a bobblehead.
02:31Wait, that is so funny. It's a bobblehead.
02:33It doesn't feel, I guess, like Christmas because there's just, there's no chaos.
02:38I think that just getting used to being an adult without the Christmas that I grew up with is hard.
02:43The plan today is just to honestly hang out and play with the babies.
02:52So happy Christmas. I'm here at Maddie's.
02:56What is it?
02:58She does all the Christmas traditions, like they go see the lights with the kids,
03:02and I just thought it would be so much fun to be where the kids were for Christmas this year.
03:08Oh my gosh! A train!
03:14So this year for Christmas, I came up to Salt Lake, and I am going to spend it with my good friends, Lisa and Amber.
03:21Lisa used to babysit me when I was really young.
03:24And then, of course, I've known Amber almost her whole life.
03:29Cody and I have made the decision that we are splitting up.
03:34There's absolutely no way, shape, or form that I would choose to spend Christmas with them.
03:41Why would I do that? That makes no sense. That will never happen.
03:47Like, we're done. Like, our marriage is over.
03:50I'm not going to just go be a third wheel.
03:55The future is so bright, I've got to wear shades.
03:59Cheers!
04:04I'd rather be somewhere that people want me, you know?
04:21It's been a very fun, relaxing, if not kind of weird, holiday.
04:25I became really, really aware, especially when it gets time to cook some of those foods that we've always had,
04:30that I never participated in the making of.
04:33I'm like, oh, I had to look up a recipe, and then I had to try to remember what everybody did.
04:37So, that was kind of different, but anyway, it's been a really good day so far.
04:46There's a lot of just the small things that each one of my parents brought in to the Brown family,
04:52and added to the traditions of what we did around our holidays that have been, are gone now.
04:58Because my family, just the dynamic looks different.
05:08The best part of Christmas for me is that the kids had a good Christmas, and they were having a good time.
05:13For my children's sake, I just need to focus on what's good today, and that's what I did.
05:19I think this will just slowly become the new norm, and that's okay.
05:22I love Christmastime. I have loved the years that we have spent together.
05:28I have loved all the memories that we've created, and people evolve.
05:34And we don't do that anymore, and that's okay.
05:37There's no way for me to know what each year is going to bring.
05:41It'll probably be something different every year.
05:44My mom had went on a couple of dates, and she didn't really talk too much about people,
05:50but she started talking a lot about this one guy that she went on a date with.
05:58I'm excited for my mom to date.
06:00She's never really dated, and I'm excited for my mom to date.
06:05I'm excited for my mom to date.
06:08I'm excited for my mom to date.
06:10She's never really dated before.
06:12She didn't really date guys before my dad.
06:15She liked my dad, and then they got married.
06:17So this is her first experience, and it's really exciting for her, and I'm excited for her.
06:24Here you go.
06:25Oh, my gosh.
06:26Are you going to come play with Mama?
06:27What?
06:28Come play with me.
06:29Here you go.
06:30I love you.
06:31Here.
06:32I've been going on dates for about six months.
06:35Just not really dating one specific person, but dated different guys for about six months.
06:41One guy was very religious.
06:44I don't know how we ever matched up at all.
06:47I told him that I was a polygamist, and he was like, wait, what?
06:52Definitely over.
06:53And then there was another time that was sad.
06:58I was on a second date with a guy.
07:00We had a great time on our first date.
07:01Then our second date, we started talking about, and I just started sharing a little bit,
07:06just about polygamy and things like that, and he'd never heard about polygamy at all.
07:11It was over, and I was like, whoa, this is serious.
07:15This is serious to some people.
07:16I'm just about 52, and the idea of dating is so weird.
07:23Then add the fact that I was in a plural family for 30-something years.
07:29You know what I mean?
07:30They may just think that that's what I'm interested in,
07:34just because that's what I've done for so long.
07:37Who's that?
07:40I know Christine.
07:41She told me a few months ago that she had hired a matchmaker.
07:45I don't know if she's found anybody yet.
07:48If I ever meet somebody again, it will have to be organic,
07:51because I'm just not going to go into that.
07:54I just know.
07:55It's just I can't.
07:56Not interested in the dating app scene.
08:01So if her moving on means finding somebody new, I hope she does it.
08:09My life and Christine's life are separate and private from each other,
08:12and I would expect that she'd be dating.
08:15It's really none of my business.
08:19Baby's Mitchell!
08:21Hello.
08:23Isabelle just went to pick up Truly.
08:25When I decided to start dating, I was just nervous.
08:29But I wanted to date, and I wanted to date.
08:33And so I contacted a matchmaker.
08:36When I left Cody, I decided I wanted to find someone who was bald
08:39and had tattoos and drove a motorcycle and stuff,
08:42just to find something so different.
08:45But really, honestly, I thought that sounded just extremely sexy.
08:48Have a seat.
08:50You want us to talk before Truly gets here?
08:55Yes.
08:56Do you have anything you need to tell us before Truly gets here?
08:58No.
08:59Do you have anything you need to tell me before Truly gets here?
09:03Tony, do you have anything you need to tell Mom before Truly gets here?
09:06No, I'm waiting for Truly to get here.
09:08What were you guys' first impressions of David there?
09:11I like him.
09:12That was like the most unsmooth transition ever.
09:14That was not.
09:15What the heck?
09:16David's my boyfriend.
09:17He's my friend.
09:18I met him online, and we met in person for about a month after we started talking.
09:25We met in person, and the date went great.
09:31He was just charming and kind.
09:35His eyes were amazing, and he was everything that I was looking for.
09:39And then we went on a second date, and I told him everything,
09:44blurted out everything.
09:46And he already knew about polygamy.
09:49He'd already heard about it.
09:50And I'm like, you don't want to be a polygamist, right?
09:53He's like, no.
09:54No, I'm an agonist only.
09:56I'm like, okay, well, that's good.
09:57So what were you guys' first impressions with David?
10:00I let him hold my kid.
10:02That says a lot.
10:03I don't let everybody hold my children.
10:04Hey, he was pretty good with the kids.
10:06Yeah?
10:07Cool.
10:08Yeah, I like how he survived.
10:10Do you want to talk about that?
10:13Yeah, no, because his wife died.
10:14His wife died.
10:15I know.
10:16His youngest was six.
10:17And left him with eight kids, and he didn't get addicted to gambling and drugs.
10:24And he made it.
10:25He came out the other side with pretty decent kids.
10:28That's hard.
10:29He's a father of eight kids, and he has nine grandkids.
10:35His wife passed away 11 years ago.
10:38Hello.
10:39Hey, buddy.
10:40How are you?
10:41I'm doing well.
10:43Hi.
10:44I'm good to see you, too.
10:45Babe, you can actually sit over there by Mitchell, too.
10:46David and I have been on many dates now, and it's only been a month.
10:50And it just feels right.
10:53I'm 50.
10:54I know what I want.
10:55I know what I had before.
10:56This feels totally different.
10:58And I dated enough guys in the past year to know what I'm looking for.
11:02You have?
11:03I consider eight a lot, a lot of guys to go out with.
11:07Eight?
11:08Yeah.
11:09I don't know.
11:10It's not double digits.
11:11What?
11:12One was two dates.
11:14Only one made it to two dates besides David.
11:17I'm 50.
11:18I know what I'm looking for.
11:19Yeah.
11:20Truly, can I ask you a question and get an honest answer from you?
11:23That's a no.
11:25What?
11:26Can I get a legit, honest answer?
11:28What is your question?
11:29What do you think about David?
11:31He is funny, and I get along with him.
11:34Good.
11:35I like him.
11:37I'm glad you guys like him.
11:38He reminds me of Cody.
11:40Oh, God.
11:41Oh, fun.
11:42Wow.
11:43That's true.
11:44You got to expand on that, Tony.
11:46Well, he's like from the same generation for sure.
11:50All this boomer stuff that I have no idea what he was saying, but like—
11:53Tony, he's not a boomer.
11:54He's totally a boomer.
11:55Are you kidding?
11:56No, he's not a boomer.
11:57Bro.
11:58Okay, he's 59.
11:59Bro.
12:00Wait, he's 59.
12:0159?
12:02Does that make—
12:03Sixty years ago?
12:04That's the same as you, right, Mom?
12:05No.
12:06Mom's 50.
12:07I'm 50.
12:08No, I know how old you are.
12:10Generation.
12:11I mean, it's the same generation as you.
12:12I don't know.
12:13That's like Cold War stuff, man.
12:14Cold War?
12:15Tony.
12:16Oh, my word.
12:17Do you know what a Cold War was?
12:18I think I'm older than you think.
12:21See, I'm not a boomer, and David's only five years older than I am.
12:25So, I don't think he's a boomer.
12:27I'm not a freaking boomer.
12:29I'm not a boomer.
12:31I'm not.
12:32My mom's a boomer.
12:33Is David a boomer?
12:34Technically, he's a boomer.
12:36Am I dating a boomer?
12:39So, David's a boomer, and my mom's a boomer.
12:42David is eight years older than I am.
12:45Eight.
12:46He's a boomer.
12:48All I know was, like, the 80s are my jam.
12:52Like, I loved the 80s.
12:54Like, I hear 80s music now, and I'm, like, all over that.
12:58Gen X, we're the feral generation.
13:00What a great time to be alive.
13:03You know, like, you're a teenager in the 80s.
13:06You've got music videos.
13:08You've got fashion.
13:10Just, like, so many amazing things happened.
13:13Duran Duran happened in the 80s.
13:19Yeah, he was 58 when we met, but then he had his birthday, so he was 59.
13:23I tease him about his age all the time, though.
13:25It's great.
13:26Tease him about it more when he's 60.
13:28I mean, if you guys are still dating by then.
13:31I guarantee we will be.
13:34I knew after our first date that this was something that I wanted to really invest in.
13:38My kids, it's going to be too soon for them.
13:43But it's important for me to know how my kids feel about David.
13:48But however they feel is not going to end my relationship with David.
13:55We have said the magical words to each other.
13:58Who said it first?
13:59Him, of course.
14:00What?
14:01Oh, God.
14:02He said it first?
14:03He did say it first.
14:04I said it right after that.