NEW - Sister Wives - Season 19 Episode 4 - How the Mighty Have Fallen - Part 2
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00:00Really cute. If they wanted to get married, I'd be fine with it.
00:03I'm just saying. I'd be fine.
00:10So this year, Logan and Michelle are hosting Thanksgiving in Las Vegas at their house.
00:14They just bought a house. We're going to be there. It's going to be very fun.
00:17Oh, okay. With the garlic cloves, do we want to smash them? I want to smash them and put them in there.
00:22Peyton is Christine's biological son, and he always says to me, well, you're my other mom.
00:28So I only had one boy, just Peyton, and he escaped living in a house full of women all the time.
00:36Like, he is my kid, but he's not my biological child. But it doesn't seem any different. He just fits right in with all my boys.
00:41It just feels like he belongs there.
00:44He was always over at Janelle's house. He's definitely benefited from me living polygamy because he has so many brothers now, and he loves it.
00:51Him doing Thanksgiving with Janelle is just awesome.
00:54You want some of the drumstick? I want the drumstick. Drumstick. I want to drink, but I don't know about that.
01:02I love my children, and we're having a nice time, but I miss the family. I miss the big experience.
01:09Hey, listen. Very exciting to have all you here for Thanksgiving. This is a very nice layout.
01:14Thank you, ladies, for this setup, all the food that's been cooked. It's very nice.
01:19Thanksgiving was always such a big deal when we were all together as a family.
01:23We'd have 50 people over. Like, we never had Thanksgiving that was small.
01:28We originally started out with the vision of having one family, and we worked very hard.
01:33Even when Robin came, we tried very, very hard to still have that one family identity.
01:39I never imagined that we would not ever spend Thanksgiving together, but I'm really enjoying this smaller Thanksgiving, and I'm with people I want to be with.
01:47It's actually fun. I'm enjoying it.
01:50Are you good?
01:51I'm really struggling in many ways that it still feels like something's missing.
01:57This is small. There's just the seven of us. It's quiet. It feels safe.
02:03By safe, I simply mean that we are all in a state of respect with each other.
02:08Ten years ago, I was safe for everybody, but they weren't safe for each other.
02:16It shows me in so many ways the dysfunction of just the basics in plural marriage.
02:24I've heard that Mary's not going to be spending Thanksgiving with Cody and Robin, which kind of surprised me.
02:29And I wondered who she was going to be spending it with. I hope somebody.
02:35I think Mary deserves a lot more, and I think it's time for her to do something different.
02:39I've thought that for a while, and she still is around.
02:42I don't really plan on telling anybody about mine and Cody's decision.
02:47I don't feel like it's necessary for me to go make a big announcement about it.
02:54I'm actually staying in town. It's just going to be an easy day of just getting caught up on work.
03:02Logic says that when a man and a woman decide they're not going to be married any longer,
03:09they also therefore don't spend Thanksgiving together.
03:18See right there? That's what Thanksgiving's about.
03:20It's just these babies laying on Tony and sleeping finally. I mean, come on.
03:26The kids are a week old today.
03:29Congratulations, baby. Happy week birthday.
03:32I want my other children in my life. I don't know how to do that.
03:36I believe, I'm grateful for the faith and hope that I have that things get better in the future.
03:50So yeah, I miss everyone, and I wish we were together some. Yeah.
04:02It's a trigger point for me. I'm tired of being angry.
04:05I just don't understand why you're not like, like just talking to kids as much as you can.
04:11Like, I just don't know why you're not reaching out to them more.
04:15Oh, I'm having a hard time not like feeling like losing.
04:21So it is Tuesday, the week after Thanksgiving, and I spent Thanksgiving here in my bed. Sick.
04:40Mary had told us she wasn't going to do Thanksgiving with us. She was going to do it with her children.
04:44Like I found out later that she was at home sick.
04:48I just was like, oh my gosh, she's right here.
04:51After my conversation with Cody in April, I had already kind of made the decision that I wasn't going to spend Thanksgiving with Cody and Robin.
05:08I mean, I don't know exactly what's going on with Mary and Cody's relationship.
05:14Like I heard that they were separated, and I don't know where she's living.
05:22I really have no idea. I don't really talk to Mary, so I'm not sure.
05:28I think me being sick, honestly, is just my body's way of saying, hey, it's time you stop, and you think about this, and you figure it out.
05:41So...
05:42So...
06:06Earlier this morning, Robin and I got into a conversation after we got the kids to school.
06:11Robin is extremely upset that I'm not reaching out more to my children.
06:18I was putting pressure on Cody to work on his relationships with his kids, and it triggered him, and it upset him.
06:27This all just came to a head. Our voices are starting to raise.
06:30I'm not going to sit here and fight with you and have a rift in our relationship caused by these people who have created the biggest rift in my life.
06:41I'm not doing that, okay?
06:46So I just decided I needed to take off.
06:50So Cody's coming home. He let me know he's on his way.
06:54I have to talk to him more about this. I have to have it sink in.
06:58It's just something that is just eating at me. I'm so worried about these kids.
07:06Hey.
07:07Hi.
07:08How you doing?
07:09Good.
07:10Come back, and maybe we can finish the conversation.
07:15Are you feeling a little better?
07:17I'm a little emotional.
07:18Well, I mean...
07:19I'm just thinking about what you're saying, so...
07:21Well, do you mind if we talk about it? Are you in a place where we can talk about it more?
07:25Yeah, it's a trigger point for me, you know? I'm tired of being angry.
07:31I know. I'm tired of it, too. It's hard.
07:35I'm tired of feeling betrayed.
07:37What has happened is, in the divorce, and the divorce is, the ugly finger of blame has come out.
07:43Dad, you were never at my house. I'm sorry, I had four wives. I was at your house, though.
07:48Because the other wife was complaining that I was at your house.
07:52I just don't understand why you're not, like, just talking to the kids as much as you can.
07:59Like, I just don't know why you're not reaching out to them more.
08:02This has been going on for so long. They're trash-talking.
08:07Well, they're hurting.
08:08Robin, you saw how they were at the wedding.
08:13I recently went to a family wedding. The whole family was there.
08:16There was so much animosity from some of my family.
08:20There's a couple of my kids who wouldn't even engage me at the wedding.
08:23Some of them wouldn't even talk to me.
08:25But some of the kids have flat-out rejected me.
08:27I know.
08:28You saw Madison take her kids and scuttle them away from me.
08:31Yeah, I saw.
08:32She never told me she was pregnant. She never told me she was going to have a baby.
08:36The only thing the kids are upset with him is the way he has treated his family.
08:39The way he has completely, like, ditched out.
08:42And, really, Maddie doesn't have any contact with him.
08:45She is very protective of her children.
08:47Cody has not been there since Evie was born, and Evie's three and a half.
08:52And she didn't want him to just drop in and, like, be like,
08:55oh, I'm your grandpa, and then be like, what? Who is this guy?
08:59Like, you know what I mean?
09:00It's unrealistic expectation for grandparents to be in their grandchildren's lives all the time,
09:04especially if you move your children to an entirely different coast.
09:11I have work and a life in Flagstaff.
09:14They're purposefully leaving me out of their lives to punish me for a crime I did not commit.
09:21I am only guilty of not falling madly in love with their mothers.
09:27Madison actually called Janelle, saying, Dad said he didn't love you.
09:33I know, but couldn't you, like, reach out to her?
09:35Every time I talk to her, she spreads gossip about me to the rest of the family.
09:40I never said that I didn't love Janelle.
09:42On the contrary, I actually said that I loved Janelle.
09:44This is some rumor that was created in the family that just sowed division.
09:48Our family was killed by gossip.
09:53Courier has this narrative about Madison where she's such the gossip, but he is as big of a gossip.
09:59He'd always say that Mary was difficult or Christine was whatever.
10:03Like, he would always say things like that to me about Mary and Christine.
10:06He never said it about Robin, but he would say stuff about Mary and Christine.
10:11What they've done is they've got, there's all this contempt that they have for me.
10:17Listen, I need...
10:19I'm just having such a hard time with this.
10:22Well, I will work, I will reach out to, I will love those children who will allow me to do it.
10:28And in time, maybe the rest of them will come back around.
10:32You know, you know...
10:35You know that my biological father did not...
10:38I know.
10:39...do what he was supposed to as far as a dad is concerned.
10:42Yeah, but I've not been doing that.
10:45When I was little, my parents got a divorce.
10:49He lived with one wife in another city, and then my mom lived alone.
10:54I remember confronting my biological father, saying,
10:58I remember confronting my biological father, saying,
11:01what happened? Why?
11:04All he really did was just make a bunch of lame excuses as to why he wasn't there for me when I was young.
11:10And it just sucked.
11:13To Cody, I'm like, hey, listen, you don't want to be this guy.
11:17I know you're hurting, but you don't want to be this guy.
11:21But don't we...
11:22I'm just, I'm struggling to...
11:24I text one of my kids...
11:25I'm starting...
11:26I send back notes saying, you are a piece of trash.
11:29I would never speak to you again anyway.
11:32I'm not trying to do anything.
11:34Well, if you sit there long enough and like...
11:37I'm not going to do it with rejection every single time.
11:40I'm not abandoning my children.
11:42They have betrayed me.
11:44Inadvertently, maybe.
11:46But they're kids, and they're trying to...
11:47No, they're adults.
11:49They're your kids, though.
11:50I know.
11:51They're still young.
11:52But they have animosity.
11:53I do not want to talk to a person who sits there with so much contempt.
11:58They need you.
12:00They can have me.
12:01They just don't need to treat me like crap to get me.
12:05They are purposefully leaving me out of their lives to punish me for a crime I did not commit.
12:12The experience with COVID.
12:13One, two, three divorces.
12:15The breakup of the family.
12:17The different directions.
12:18All the secrecy.
12:20All this upheaval.
12:21All this damage.
12:22All this tearing us apart.
12:25I don't know how we fix it, or when we fix it, or whether we fix it.
12:30It's like we want to sit down with you, Dad, and blame you for everything that happened.
12:34There's no respect.
12:36Oh, I'm having a hard time not, like, feeling like losing respect for you a little bit.
12:44It's just...
12:45I'm trying to be terrible and being honest, but...
12:48Roman, did I...
12:49Do you know...