2020 Audi S8 vs BMW M760i S-Class Killers
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00:00Votre est plus grand, tu sais.
00:02Je sais, je pense que ça a quelque chose à faire avec la forme de votre.
00:05C'est pas...
00:07C'est un peu bizarre.
00:08Je veux dire, c'était...
00:09C'était conçu de cette façon.
00:10Je sais, je sais.
00:11Et je pense que c'est la façon dont c'est trimé.
00:13Il y a quelque chose de plus subtil.
00:16Oui, mais qui a besoin de subtil ?
00:17Ce sont des sedans de grande performance d'exécutif.
00:31Votre sujet est le Thronelase, je suis Thomas.
00:33Et je suis James.
00:34Et c'est le nouveau Audi S8,
00:36le pinacle de l'équipe de sedan d'Audi.
00:39Et nous la comparons au BMW M760i,
00:44qui est l'épée du groupe BMW.
00:49C'est un peu bizarre.
00:50C'est un peu bizarre.
00:51C'est un peu bizarre,
00:52mais c'est pas un problème.
00:53C'est pas un problème.
00:54C'est un peu bizarre.
00:55C'est un peu bizarre,
00:56mais c'est un peu bizarre.
00:57C'est un peu bizarre,
00:58mais c'est un peu bizarre.
00:59La bataille des limousines allemandes est un rivalisme raccourci pendant tout le temps.
01:04Cette année, l'S8 est l'un des champions les plus nouveaux de l'Audi contre l'équipe S-Class et 7-Series.
01:10C'est une combinaison de technologie et de performance lourde,
01:14tout rempli d'un paquet sous-estimé.
01:17L'S8, qui a été amicablement fourni par les gens chers à Audi Valencia, ici en Californie,
01:22possède un V8 et deux turbos sous le couvercle.
01:25Et à 129 000 dollars d'USD et 151 000 dollars canadiens,
01:29c'est l'échec d'aujourd'hui.
01:31Mais l'S8 possède quelques trucs modernes.
01:34Pas le moins, c'est sa suspension active prédictive,
01:37qui peut augmenter ou baisser chaque roue indépendamment pour réagir à la surface de la route.
01:41Une technologie comme celle-ci,
01:42est ce qui va faire de la 7-Series un problème sérieux.
01:46Je suis désolé, je ne peux pas vous entendre par le son d'un V12.
01:50Oui, la 7-Series porte un turbochargé 12 cylindres punch.
01:55Et comme l'Audi, il transmet son puissance à travers toutes les quatre roues,
01:59et les conduit aussi.
02:01Et même si l'Audi peut avoir un nouveau design de suspension très avancé,
02:05cette 7-Series peut aussi lire la route en avant
02:08et ajuster sa suspension en fonction.
02:10Les flagships ne viennent pas chers,
02:12et le M760i commence à être un peu plus cher.
02:16Si vous êtes nouveau sur Throttle House,
02:18nous faisons des revues de voitures,
02:20des tests de route,
02:22et pas mal de bêtises.
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02:28A la prochaine !
02:47All right, back in the Audi S8.
02:51I'm excited for this.
02:52Ever since we drove the A8,
02:54and it felt, you know, we were just waiting for that S8.
02:56Yeah, the A8 felt like it needed a little bit more power.
03:00But after driving this, I'm realizing that I don't need as much power as this has
03:05because this has a twin-turbo V8,
03:07pushing out 563 horsepower and 590 pound-feet of torque.
03:14These cars are so fast.
03:16They don't need to be this fast, James.
03:18Yeah, I mean, I don't put them in the same group
03:20because the 7 Series is faster.
03:22But this isn't about speed.
03:24It's actually, it's kind of like being on a beach.
03:28And what I mean by that is that it's all about isolation.
03:33Right there is the Pacific Ocean,
03:35and right there is the Pacific Coast Highway.
03:38But because of the rolling smoothness of the waves,
03:41I can't hear it.
03:43And that's what the Audi S8 does for you.
03:46But it just seems that, like, no matter what,
03:49no matter where you are, on the beach or on the road,
03:52there's always an idiot behind you.
03:56But whether there's an idiot behind you or an idiot in the driver's seat,
03:59which there might be,
04:01the Audi takes care of you,
04:03especially with things like the transmission.
04:05Are you aware the car is shifting gears right now, James?
04:07No, it's very smooth.
04:09Even when you approach stop signs and stop lights,
04:11normally that transmission punishes you.
04:13It makes it seem like you're braking badly.
04:15You get the little downshifts?
04:17Yeah, this is smooth.
04:19It might as well be an EV.
04:21The only thing telling me that it's not an EV
04:23is that when I click it over into dynamic mode,
04:25the exhaust opens up and I get this lovely rumble.
04:29And it becomes the S.
04:31It becomes, somehow, a sports car.
04:33It has active rear-wheel steering.
04:35So it steers the rear wheels the opposite direction
04:37in tight corners and the same direction in fast corners,
04:39and it makes what is a very long car.
04:41Actually, one inch longer than the 7 Series?
04:43One and a half.
04:45One and a half inches longer.
04:47It makes it feel like an RS3.
04:49The way you're carving these corners,
04:51this is ridiculous.
04:53Don't get me wrong, I feel sick,
04:55but I'm not worried.
04:57No.
04:59It's not being boat-like.
05:01Yeah, that's because the suspension is incredible in this.
05:03On the road, first of all,
05:05it somehow wafts like a Rolls-Royce.
05:07The 760, I think we'll recheck in a minute,
05:09but it doesn't have quite this level
05:11of smooth motion wafting.
05:13Maybe that's why you're feeling sick.
05:15I don't know.
05:17It's very comfortable.
05:19Don't give it the Rolls-Royce reputation.
05:21No, you're right.
05:23That's reserved for the architecture of luxury.
05:25The architecture of luxury.
05:27After being in a Rolls, yes,
05:29these are amazing, but the Rolls is on a different level.
05:31It needs to be said.
05:33However, this is really impressive.
05:35Actually, the coolest part about the suspension
05:37is not the road.
05:39It's a trick that it does when it's standing still.
05:41Actually, I have to show you that right now.
05:43Okay, what is it?
05:45Open that door.
05:47Am I going to get an electric shock?
05:49No, just open that door.
05:53No!
05:55And you may step inside comfortably.
05:57Science.
05:59How cool is that?
06:01Honestly, the fancy tricks
06:03of getting in and out aside,
06:05this is a truly, truly impressive vehicle.
06:07Audi has mastered
06:09the big, long sedan.
06:11It should be, though.
06:13It's $45,000 more than an A8.
06:15That's a lot of money, isn't it?
06:17That's a lot of money.
06:19The engine is worth it
06:21if you think you need the power.
06:23I'm not sure you do,
06:25but it's certainly nice to have it
06:27because there's definitely
06:29an effortlessness to this car.
06:31All right, well, let's go see
06:33what happens when you spend a little bit more money.
06:45The 760i.
06:47M760i.
06:49M760i, yes.
06:51There is no M7,
06:53and there is no RS8.
06:55RS8, no.
06:57There is an Alpina, though.
06:59There is an Alpina B7,
07:01but the Alpina B7 actually has
07:03more performance than this.
07:05It would be even less fair.
07:07Because the 0-60 in this BMW claim
07:09is 3.6 seconds.
07:11That is hilarious.
07:13That's hilarious for a full-size luxury sedan.
07:15Yeah, the thing weighs 5,150 pounds.
07:17This is actually lighter
07:19than the Audi,
07:21despite the extra four cylinders.
07:23The torque.
07:25Yeah, the torque coming up the hill.
07:27Everything about this V12 is effortless,
07:29and it has less weight to carry
07:31because it has a carbon core.
07:33Oh, yeah, you can see the carbon core on the door.
07:35It's this little thing.
07:37So it's not as fat,
07:39and it's just...
07:41Why are you driving it like a Miata?
07:43Because it is all sports car in the canyons.
07:45It's just crazy.
07:47You'll never drive it like this.
07:49You put it into sport mode,
07:51and it just becomes, I want to say,
07:53a slightly bigger M5.
07:55But then chuck it into comfort,
07:57and it's just like...
07:59Oh, I can hear the exhaust chill out.
08:01Yeah, you could even say
08:03that you're on a beach.
08:05You're on a beach.
08:09Anyway, sport mode is nuts.
08:11Just the capability of the car.
08:13I was in a Lamborghini recently,
08:15a very fast Lamborghini,
08:17and I was carving these canyons,
08:19and I look in my rearview mirror,
08:21and somehow you were keeping up with me,
08:23and it was frightening.
08:25Don't give me a,
08:27I'm such a good driver line.
08:29This is an incredibly,
08:31incredibly competent vehicle.
08:33Both these cars make life so easy.
08:35You get to feel like a pro,
08:37especially in comfort mode.
08:39This is slow to come onto the power
08:41in comfort mode,
08:43but that's intentional.
08:45That's all of them.
08:47That's all the torques.
08:49Any hill.
08:51We've been staying in the hills of California.
08:53Beautiful state.
08:55Well done everyone that lives here.
08:57And it goes up those hills.
08:59I'm quarter throttle.
09:01Yeah, quarter throttle,
09:03and it's just coasting up the hill.
09:05It's unbelievable.
09:07How's the steering, though?
09:09I didn't initially like the steering.
09:11Around town, it's very,
09:13but in the, vague?
09:15Vague.
09:17Why are you saying vague?
09:19V-A-G-E.
09:21Shut up!
09:23Canadian accents.
09:25The steering is not that heavy,
09:27but around the canyons,
09:29somehow, I can't explain it,
09:31it translates to confidence.
09:33Based on how fast you're driving,
09:35which is exactly the speed limit,
09:37the chassis is just so dialed in.
09:39Absolutely.
09:41God!
09:43Oh my!
09:45Look how quickly we just got to
09:4745 miles an hour.
09:49You got up to it quickly.
09:51And from a passenger perspective,
09:53this is so,
09:55well, that's not comfortable.
09:59That's fast.
10:01That is fast.
10:03That V12.
10:05It's unbelievable.
10:07It's not necessary,
10:09but how is it cool?
10:13Alright.
10:15No, I'm not letting you out.
10:17I did that with the Rolls-Royce,
10:19and I still regret it to this day.
10:21Come and join us.
10:23There we go.
10:25It might look like a Rolls-Royce.
10:27In colour.
10:29Very similar red to the Rolls.
10:31This is the Aventurine red.
10:33It's quite regal.
10:35It's Bilbo Baggin's favourite colour.
10:37The grille is still a thing.
10:39I'm trying to decide.
10:41It's grown on me,
10:43but it's also grown on the car like algae.
10:47I'm just going to wipe it off.
10:49It's a shame because I think the car has
10:51really great lines everywhere else.
10:53It's so close.
10:55It's brilliant looking.
10:57No, it's lovely.
10:59This line all the way down the side.
11:01Perfect.
11:03It's just that front grille.
11:05But it does make a statement.
11:07This does not make a statement as much.
11:09No, it's still got that understated thing.
11:11Very understated.
11:13Even though it's the S8.
11:15Yes, even though it's the S8.
11:17It does have the black optics package
11:19and has the LED lights.
11:21It actually has some 20-inch wheels
11:23and red brake calipers,
11:25which I think look really, really cool.
11:27That does look good.
11:29They give it the S-ness.
11:31That gives away that it's a sleeper a little bit.
11:33If you're in an M2 competition,
11:35that guy's going to think he can smoke you.
11:37This will smoke an M2 competition.
11:39Obliterate off the line.
11:41But it just looks like a big Audi A6.
11:43It does.
11:45It actually looks like a big Audi A4,
11:47to be honest.
11:49And a huge Audi A3.
11:51We could go all day.
11:53This is like a moon blue.
11:55It's not blue.
11:57Moonlight blue.
11:59Whatever.
12:01It's a really good blue tint,
12:03but why not make it a rich color?
12:05Like a royal blue.
12:07This is a really good red.
12:09You can spec it the way you want.
12:11Again, it's gone full understated.
12:13It's almost murdered out in this car.
12:15A little bit, yeah.
12:17Speaking of murdered out,
12:19the interior, as you saw,
12:21is very dark, but it works.
12:23I think it's fantastic.
12:25Let's go look.
12:27Thomas, you've got to learn.
12:29I'm sitting at 100,000 people.
12:31It's like London.
12:33That's the problem.
12:35It's wonderful in the back.
12:37It is also lovely in the front.
12:39This feels more like the future to me.
12:41I would say that, yes.
12:43The screens are obviously incredible.
12:45They have haptic feedback.
12:47They're lovely to look at.
12:49The black levels are incredible.
12:51This is like an iPhone.
12:53You just hold this stuff down.
12:55You can move the apps.
12:57It's going to get to that.
12:59You just did a big one there.
13:01I can't even see the word radio anymore.
13:03These greasy little fingers.
13:05You had some chicken for lunch.
13:07Mine are little, let's be honest.
13:09These are the hands here.
13:11Aside from the piano black,
13:13I think this is one of the prettiest
13:15mix of materials I've ever seen.
13:17Look at the door, for example.
13:19You've got carbon fibre.
13:21You've got the piano black.
13:23You've got the satin silver.
13:25You've got the Alcantara.
13:27And then you have the regular,
13:29smooth Napa leather.
13:31It blends together in the most
13:33brilliant way.
13:35I think it's lovely and solid.
13:37We have wireless carplay.
13:39And a million-speaker Bang & Olufsen
13:41sound system.
13:43It might as well not be a sound system.
13:45It might as well be a band
13:47that you've hired to travel with you.
13:49It's unbelievable.
13:51Carbon fibre everywhere.
13:53I even like the shifter.
13:55It works really, really well.
13:57This Audi shifter design,
13:59the low, flat, wide thing,
14:01is really nice.
14:03And the steering wheel
14:05is really, really good looking.
14:07The four spokes.
14:09I think it's pretty much perfect
14:11for a car like this.
14:13There's a sense of occasion about it.
14:15Virtual cockpit.
14:17Beautiful.
14:19I can't seem to spec the cockpit
14:21with the circle dials
14:23and the map in the middle.
14:25I could be an idiot.
14:27That's possible.
14:29But I can't seem to figure it out.
14:31All I get is this obtuse angled
14:33tack and the speed in the centre.
14:35But when you have the map,
14:37that is so nice and clear.
14:39It is.
14:41And I do like it better
14:43than BMW's virtual.
14:45Well, that's not hard for you,
14:47is it?
14:49Yes.
14:51But it's still a big luxury boat.
14:53I guess they'll say that for the RS's.
14:55Although this won't get an RS.
14:57S+, maybe?
14:59For the last gen?
15:01Also these.
15:03There's a lot of control.
15:05And the wireless charger.
15:07Let's take a closer look at the back seats
15:09and you can show me what you can get.
15:11Not bad.
15:13Back of the S8.
15:15Very comfortable.
15:17Missing some style.
15:19Hasn't got that full centre console.
15:21This one doesn't have the full executive
15:23rear seat package.
15:25So you can get it.
15:27Obviously it would cost more.
15:29But it gives you this cool centre spar
15:31control area here.
15:33It gives you the two screens
15:35that you would see just like in the 7 Series.
15:37But most importantly,
15:39it gives you a footrest.
15:41So the 7 Series has that?
15:43Right.
15:45It's too far.
15:47It's not too far.
15:49That's weird for the Germans to come up with something so relaxed
15:51and chilled.
15:53Massage and heat your feet at the same time.
15:55I think that...
15:57Is this a...
15:59I'm against the cooler.
16:01Then you can have champagne.
16:03It's unnecessary and it takes up trunk space.
16:05I don't even drink champagne.
16:07You don't like anything that has bubbles in it.
16:09No one is afraid of bubbles.
16:11Let's go talk about the 7 Series.
16:13Ok.
16:15Soft close.
16:17What must your wife feel like?
16:19You don't listen.
16:21I can't learn.
16:23We've done the 7 Series before.
16:25This isn't that different.
16:27We do have a nice centrepiece there.
16:29I love that.
16:31That's why they put it in there.
16:33Look at it.
16:35That's why I spent tens of thousands more than the V8.
16:37It is wonderful in here.
16:39This feels like a lounge.
16:41I suspect with the piano black and the white leather,
16:43which by the way is called Smoke White,
16:45the other option is Black Lung.
16:47That might not be true.
16:49But the way it's set up is
16:51if kept clean, this is beautiful.
16:53Yeah, if kept clean.
16:55The white...
16:57There's white carpets.
16:59That's probably an error.
17:01The first time we got in this car,
17:03the first time in, we ruined it.
17:05Done.
17:07At least the Rolls Royce we were in,
17:09the interior had black.
17:11Black mats.
17:13Made of lambs.
17:15Everything else is all BMW.
17:17We have iDrive.
17:19We have your favourite gauge cluster ever.
17:21The M Sport steering wheel.
17:23And like the Audi, the material quality is in here.
17:25Everything is solid.
17:27It's very solid.
17:29We've got the quilted leather on the seats
17:31with the Navajo thing.
17:33Your little braid that you like.
17:35It reminds me of my samurai days.
17:37This, I would say,
17:39if the Audi interior
17:41in terms of design is a 10,
17:43this is a 9.5.
17:45This feels a little bit older.
17:47It does feel a little bit older.
17:49That's all screens, that's all futuristic.
17:51This is more traditional.
17:53When you get into the Audi,
17:55you feel like there's a bunch you have to learn about it.
17:57You haven't got a massaging seat there.
17:59I don't have massaging seats in here.
18:01No, but the seat behind you, the president's seat,
18:03pushes your seat all the way forward.
18:05Also, you're not important.
18:07Well, we're about to go check out the backseat
18:09and I'm going to get the president's seat.
18:11All right, let's do it.
18:17I'm impressed. I did it.
18:19You did it. I did do it.
18:21It's actually not that easy.
18:23Wow, it is beautiful in here.
18:25The white makes it.
18:27It does. So opulent.
18:29You have to keep it clean, though.
18:31You can't keep it clean, but you can try.
18:33But that's good, though.
18:35You kind of have this high-up view of the world.
18:37I really do like it.
18:39I really do.
18:41With the sunroofs open and everything down.
18:43You've got the privacy stuff.
18:45Yes, of course.
18:47If I was going to nitpick quality,
18:49I did find that the Audi,
18:51when they put their sunshade down,
18:53which it also does have,
18:55a little flap closes over.
18:57This just leaves a space.
18:59That's all.
19:01You can't, you can't.
19:03Check this out.
19:07That's a table.
19:09This is the sturdiest table.
19:11Better than any airline.
19:13Better than anything I've ever been in a car.
19:15This is super, super German.
19:17Yes, it is super German.
19:19No massaging heated footrests in here.
19:21Nein.
19:23Although you are in the president's chair,
19:25which means you can push with one button,
19:27with the touch of one button,
19:29there is a footrest.
19:31Does it heat and massage you?
19:33It doesn't heat and massage you.
19:35And it is also white.
19:37So it's disgusting.
19:39So you must take your shoes off
19:41when you get in the car.
19:43You get to do what you want
19:45because you're in the back of your 7 Series.
19:47I guess it's true.
19:49Especially if you're sitting in this chair.
19:51This has the cushions.
19:53Full-on pillows.
19:55Unfortunately for you,
19:57there are no screens.
19:59So these are on right now.
20:01You can control the ambient lighting
20:03with these screens, right?
20:05Yes, and you've got the tablet here.
20:07It does all the same stuff.
20:09This occasionally doesn't work.
20:11In other 7 Series we've had,
20:13sometimes it does a reboot
20:15and then it won't turn on.
20:17This is working right now.
20:19It is currently working, yes.
20:21It's very BMW.
20:23If it's too predictable, it's boring.
20:25This is a really cool place to be.
20:27It's like being in a multiple cinema.
20:29Yes, it's really neat.
20:31I've got massaging back seats here.
20:33This is a really optioned-out car.
20:35This has like $25,000 of options.
20:37You can option the Audi up higher,
20:39but this has got a bunch of stuff.
20:41This has most of the stuff.
20:43I'm going to put this away now.
20:45I think that when it comes to
20:47the back seats of these cars,
20:49between these physical two cars here,
20:51this one obviously has a beat.
20:53Do you think so?
20:55Yes, it has more stuff.
20:57You can get all the stuff with that Audi, obviously.
20:59But I think in terms of
21:01the seating position
21:03and the pillow and the whole thing,
21:05I think, screens aside,
21:07tech aside,
21:09I think I like the rear of the 7 Series better.
21:11I think you're being sold on the white.
21:13I'm trying not to be.
21:15I just think I like the 7 Series better.
21:17It's so bright and wonderful in here.
21:19But I like the front seat of the Audi better.
21:21So what do?
21:23Let's cut them in half.
21:25This is what everyone else would say.
21:27Get an S-Class.
21:29Which is the option.
21:31So yes, the S-Class poses
21:33an interesting question.
21:35And I guess we'll have to drive the S63 soon
21:37to find out the answer.
21:39We realize that sometimes we drive expensive cars
21:41and they don't make much sense.
21:43It requires an emotional purchase
21:45rather than a logical one.
21:47But these vehicles have a blended
21:49cocktail of performance, technology
21:51and luxury that is unmatched
21:53below the six-figure mark.
21:55That said, after spending time in both,
21:57the S8 with its futuristic interior
21:59minus the fingerprints, just presented
22:01a feeling of modern luxury that I couldn't deny.
22:03So it's the one that
22:05I crown the winner.
22:07And it doesn't hurt that you get to save thousands
22:09upon thousands of dollars.
22:11And you, James?
22:13This is tough. For me, the M760i
22:15wins the day.
22:17Its impressive power, road presence
22:19and yes, mildly contradicted but bold
22:21styling achieves flagship
22:23status better than the S8 does.
22:25But if it was my money,
22:27considering that you really aren't
22:29going to be canyon carving in your
22:31£5,000 executive sedan,
22:33a fully loaded A8
22:35would suit me just perfectly.
22:37And it still has the ability to
22:39make you feel like you're on a beach.
22:41Like you're on a beach.
22:43Come on.
22:45Like you're on a beach.
22:47Yes!
22:49Yes, it worked!
22:51Yes! Finally!
22:53Thomas?
22:55Thomas?
22:57Thomas?
22:59Mummy?