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After an unlikely Week 1 victory, tune into the newest Patriots Roundtable to hear why our hosts give Jerod Mayo so much credit. With so much of the future of the organization resting on Drake Maye, how important is Jerod Mayo in the equation? Get insights from Greg Bedard on his Greg Bedard's Patriots Podcast w/ Nick Cattles, Mike Giardi on the All 32 NFL Podcast, Alex Barth and Brian Hines on Patriots Beat, Taylor Kyles and Mike Kadlick on Patriots Daily, and Andrew Callahan on Pats Interference.

0:00-1:14: Mike Kadlick and John Zannis
1:14-2:30: Greg Bedard and Nick Cattles
2:30-3:35: Andrew Callahan
3:39-6:09: Alex Barth and Taylor Kyles
6:09-8:25: Mike Giardi and Will Parkinson
8:25-10:29: Mike Kadlick and John Zannis
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12:09-13:13: Brian Hines
13:13-14:59: Andrew Callahan

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00:00This was a this was a Belichick Ian schemed
00:03Kind of win will win, you know, the Patriots were always under Belichick
00:08We'll win as long as we do these things we can win this game and they did it
00:14we talked about it myself and Taylor on Thursday's live Patriots daily where we kind of did a
00:20what the how the Patriots can win this game right because in the prep the I
00:24guess the the idea behind it was any given Sunday a team can beat another team and
00:29Like you mentioned you have to do X Y & Z in order to get it done
00:32And it was basically run the hell out of the football control the line of scrimmage
00:36Stop the Bengals big three which they were able to because T Higgins was obviously out of the game
00:41Then Jamar chase was limited with the contract stuff
00:44And they got it done and they played smart football on offense. They didn't turn the ball over
00:49They just pounded the rock with Armand Rey and for the most part Jacoby Brissett made the right place and you know
00:55Well, I'm sure we'll talk about all of it more in depth
00:57But there was the plate there was the throw to Hunter Henry that got broken up
01:00That was a lucky one and that could have changed things because they wouldn't have gotten points down there in the red zone
01:05But it didn't it wasn't intercepted and that's what we have to work off of and so it was a gutsy win
01:11It was a statement win. I think let's talk about the guy who runs the program Gerard Mayo
01:17Debut as a head coach
01:19your thoughts on what you saw from him as a coach and
01:22Also the locker room in the buy-in level and what the guys had to say about
01:28Yeah, so
01:30You know a couple things I
01:33Just in general. I didn't know what to expect out of these Patriots new head coach new offensive coordinator new defensive coordinator new special teams coordinator
01:42You know what I did know of what I saw on the field I thought that
01:48Gerard made a really ran a really good camp that would have the Patriots physically prepared for this game
01:54I think that obviously showed up and might have been the reason for their victory in this game over
02:00You know a Bengals team, which now let's just call it
02:04They're a little soft and Jamar Chase has barely practiced and D Higgins was out and all that stuff
02:10So I definitely was confident that the Patriots would be physically prepared. I figured they would tackle well
02:17You know who knows how they would block
02:21Whether they would hold up in the running game
02:23But you know
02:23I thought they'd be
02:24physically ready and probably ready to go the distance more than the Bengals which I think played out the new era as
02:30We've talked about in New England is
02:33Really finally here which Rod Mayo did Sunday is achieved two things that Bill Belichick did not could not
02:40over the last four years without Tom Brady
02:42Win as a two-score underdog and win a statement game on the road Gerard did this in his NFL?
02:49coaching debut
02:51Now this is not about Belichick
02:52But if you are someone in that locker room listening to Mayo about this is how we're gonna win
02:56This is going to be the plan. It's going to work
02:58We're building but eventually over time this will work and boom like that. It happens right away. You were bought in. That's it
03:05You went on the road as the biggest underdog in week one something
03:08They themselves talked about in the locker room afterward and one big-time Mayo had the locker room before he's got it in his palm right now
03:15Which is the best thing you can have as a rookie head coach not to mention everything else
03:20It lies ahead, which is probably still a difficult season. This makes it that much easier because he's got proof of concept
03:26He's got buy-in. He's got something again. Bill Belichick could not do the last four years five times
03:31He was an underdog by eight and a half points or more
03:34Owen five the beginning of the Gerard Mayo era
03:37What would it looked like on the field from a coaching point of view and I would say that the coaching staff?
03:42passed their first test now some of the stuff I'm gonna say is a low bar to clear but
03:47After one penalty on the opening kickoff, which you like roll your eyes, you're like, oh boy. Here we go again
03:52really clean operation
03:54They guys got in and out of huddle. They got the play calls in you didn't seem to have too many procedural issues anything
04:00At least nothing that stuck out that you could see from the exterior
04:03I'm sure they have things they want to clean up here there, but it's not even at times this summer
04:08We saw they couldn't get lined up. They couldn't get substitutions done
04:11you know a ton of penalties and joint practices and preseason games, but if
04:16It felt like the whole operation itself went smoothly and I don't know
04:21Maybe I'm I'm not giving them enough credit or I wasn't giving them enough credit going in but Taylor
04:26I feel like they definitely checked that box and that was encouraging for me to see
04:31Yeah
04:31the biggest thing that I wanted to see from them was that discipline and playing clean football and I emphasize that
04:36Like we know there's gonna be issues. We didn't think the offense was gonna be even close to perfect
04:41I think we expected the defense to be good
04:43The special teams who were hoping would be decent and they ended up making an impact play, which was awesome
04:48Jeremy Springer era starting off on a great foot
04:51But I mentioned like the penalties especially for the offense like there were definitely some penalties that could get cleared up
04:56But the offense had the very low false start which honestly I didn't give him a lot of crap for because he came off the bench
05:02The crowd was roaring by the time he got in there
05:04So I was like, you know what as long as it's mid-drive too, wasn't it? Right? It was yeah
05:09That's the worst mistake like you take that
05:12Exactly, then David Andrews a legal man downfield where he kind of joked about it
05:15I think he was kind of like I didn't even realize I was downfield and then there was one more
05:20remember the third offensive penalty, um
05:24Sorry, I can't remember but if anyone remembers let me know but the fact you can't remember is kind of the point it wasn't
05:29That's actual cuz that shoot those two penalties. I don't think I'll forget those for the rest of my life
05:35Anybody will let me forget them for the rest of my life every time he does anything I get tweets about it now
05:40Yeah, so that was a little bit more under control I thought the turnovers now obviously they got lucky
05:45Ramon Jerry Stephenson fumbled almost had a crippling sense of deja vu from that a Jacoby Bursett making
05:51You know a not wise decision to try to chuck it up to hunter Henry off his back
05:55But things you got to clean up for sure, and I'm sure we'll get into Jacoby Bursett
05:58But I think this was a great way to start off
06:01Obviously they won plenty to clean up once again
06:04But I really liked what I saw from them for the most part especially from a discipline and clean football perspective
06:09The Patriots go in there, and they win the football game and look
06:13It was eerily reminiscent of a Bill Belichick coach team even though Bill is no longer here
06:19And I'm not talking about the most recent version of Bill Belichick
06:22We saw because they were a hot mess those last few years, and that's why he in part is no longer here it was
06:29Fundamentally sound do not beat yourself again
06:32They used to say it all the time Belichick you teach him how not to lose before you worry about how to win
06:37They did that yesterday. They didn't turn the ball over they did turn over the Bengals the Bengals gave them some gifts
06:43But it was just it was one of those games where I was like man for the first time in at least a couple
06:48Years, I felt like I watched a competently coached
06:52Well organized football team
06:54And I don't know if this is something that continues to carry on or if they found the right opponent in the right week
07:01With the Bengals, but will it was encouraging it was interesting to sort of contrast
07:05How the game went and why it was great, but then you can you know to get that first win under Mayo
07:10But you can also see like
07:12This is not a sustainable way to play offense. You know the way they did yeah the one thing
07:17I think I hit on like 900 times on Friday's pod was who's drive Mayo
07:21And what kind of coach team is this gonna be and yep?
07:23I think that the two biggest things for the Patriots again this season we talked so much about this in our season preview
07:28Who's the coach?
07:29What are the young players looks like obviously if there's foundational pieces Gonzalez was good
07:33The poke had some nice moment like you know Ramon Dre is a guy they extended and it was awesome
07:38He's always gonna be all he's a bruising back
07:40We'll see kind of obviously how he ages
07:42But you know those guys those core group and then who's the coach and then obviously who's Drake man the Patriots you know look
07:48They have a Seattle team coming cross country
07:49You know next week one o'clock game and Seattle have had some issues
07:53I know they won the game on Sunday, but Denver should have been up big time early and one o'clock
07:58You know East Coast travel coming off that emotion emotional kind of home win
08:02Oh, it's the Patriots. It's one week. I don't know
08:04I don't know why you don't think the Patriots couldn't
08:07You couldn't flirt with the idea of being to you know
08:09I don't know that they will but I think you can flirt with it
08:11So I think they were the one of the most impressive teams yesterday knowing
08:15There was a lot of questions about Gerard Mayo, and it's just one game
08:18But I think if you're a Patriots fan you say you know what we're gonna go in every game
08:22And we're gonna be damn hard to beat and I think that's the goal for this season
08:25So keep saying this stuff about Mayo now definitely means that that kind of belief level is super high
08:30In in terms of and the buy-in is really high from those guys there. I think that's evident
08:35I think you're gonna see it in almost every comment that comes out of there
08:38Yeah, and I think it's I mean everybody all the players saying that you know
08:43We love Gerard and he's our guy and you see the Gatorade bath that we talked about and Keon mentioned it
08:49But talking about going on Devon God draws podcast and they're gonna run through a brick wall for that guy
08:53So when Mayo speaks these guys are gonna listen, right?
08:57and so it felt like the you know, the
09:01The Patriot way for lack of a better term that draw or that Bill Belichick was preaching here for so long
09:06It just kind of felt like it run its course last year
09:08And you know, there was mistakes all over special teams and there was the internet
09:13Max Jones and stuff like that and it's like
09:17Now they listen to Gerard Mayo and they they want to win and they want to play hard for Gerard Mayo because he's been through
09:23It and he understands what they've been through like that
09:26you know they talk about Mayo mentioned that you know, the two-a-day stuff and how he was able to talk to
09:31Talk to Bill Belichick and they would not do two days because Mayo explained that this is what the players want things like that
09:37And so Mayo gets it from their perspective. So I think they want to play that much harder for him now
09:42You mentioned it too. There's rah-rah guys and there's got you know, I think of Brandon Staley from
09:48From the Chargers who early on looks pretty good. We're going forward on fourth down. I trust my guys
09:53These are my guys blah blah and it just takes it. It runs its course Jason Garrett. He was mr
09:58Mr
09:59Clap your hands and he he gave it his all to make sure that everybody knew that he thought the Dallas Cowboys were the best
10:04football team on
10:05The field but at the end of the day it ran its course there too
10:08And so look for now, they're 1-0. They want to play hard for Mayo. They shower room and Gatorade. They love them
10:14They they're on the same level as far as respect wise
10:17But at the end of the day, you need to keep winning football games in order for that to matter because otherwise
10:23Ultimately at the end of the you know, when if they do start to lose games, it's gonna look a whole lot different
10:28I don't know died. It's hard to describe it Nick, but there was definitely a different vibe like almost like a a
10:36Heaviness had been lifted
10:38And I do think that's a credit to Mayo and I think at least for one week. It was very real on Sunday. I
10:46Remember saying when people were looking at Belichick and Mayo and it was all you're gonna have another Belichick guy
10:51He's going to be just like Belichick and and I made a note at the time on
10:55My podcast and I think I made it on this podcast as well. And the point was
11:01Well, Mayo also understood what Belichick might not have gotten right and he's in the locker room and he's talking to these guys
11:09He had a great relationship with a lot of players on the team and I'm sure during those conversations
11:15Mayo picked up that some of them were frustrated
11:19Some of them had had enough of the Belichick method and it's not to say that Belichick can't work out next year if he comes
11:24Back to the league and it's not to say that Mayo has everything figured out as Greg just said it's been one week
11:29But it's the idea of you know, Mayo taking notes in learning. Okay. This is what works
11:35This is what I can bring to the table, which was you know, a lot of the principles football wise
11:41Mayo
11:43Stands, you know firm with Belichick, you know, really hip-to-hip shoulder-to-shoulder
11:47but he's watching this all play out in the locker room and he's like
11:50He's probably saying to himself. This isn't the way Bill like that. Just not not in
11:562023 this is like we can do a better job of reaching these players with all that said it wouldn't mean anything if we didn't
12:04See things play out the way they played out on Sunday, and I thought Mayo had a great day on Sunday
12:08I just thought Mayo had them ready to go like as a whole and that's credit to him
12:13We talked so much about in the summer how hard they really pushed them right lots of padded practices later in the day
12:20It was hotter live tackling. They only missed three tackles were Cincinnati miss
12:24I think it was like 1213. We heard Zack Taylor say a lot how bad that cost them the game
12:29So and on Ramon Dre alone, so yeah, so they were ready to go in that area. I thought they were well coached
12:36You know elsewhere helped Alex van Pelt was familiar going against Cincinnati seemed like they had a really good game plan
12:42They stuck to they executed we even heard, you know
12:45Mayo told us yesterday guys were going down the sideline
12:47But in the fourth quarter saying take him to the hill take him to the hill, right?
12:51They'd end every practice on the conditioning hill. So those guys were pumped up
12:54They were ready to go and it sounds small
12:57but those things really matter like in these early games where you could see
13:01Cincinnati was a team that didn't play their guys a lot in the preseason and they kind of looked like that
13:05And you know the Patriots they played their guys in the preseason
13:08They had those long training camp practices and they were ready to go and it makes a difference in a game like this
13:13This is what Mayo talked about
13:15Writing the ship it happened. Got 16 more to go and David Andrews is talking like yeah
13:20I think I think so
13:21What's his answer when I asked is this healing in any kind of way for a guy who not only was just at the literal?
13:25Center of all the dysfunction, but I'm going to talk to us at the media every single game last year as they go for in 13
13:31So I highlight them because they had to go through this log which made this all the sweeter, right all the bitterness the last two
13:37Years, but there's also something to be said for just the damn noise
13:40I heard waiting outside the locker room before I got in they do the whole
13:43Oh, yeah, right that you've heard and maybe even seen on social media since
13:49That was the loudest noise. I've heard out of a locker room and I don't know how long and when I got inside it was
13:55Maybe the happiest since 2018 which by now
13:59What are we like seven minutes in we thinking like did you
14:04Leave the stadium Callahan with a bag of cash to just kind of exaggerate all of this stuff
14:09No, this is this is what it felt like in the moment
14:11This was a moment that can stand on its own
14:13Even if they go 1 in 16
14:15You'll have this that you could hold on to it was both the start of something new in a moment unto itself because that's what
14:20They felt in there. And so there were good locker rooms. So get me wrong in 2021, especially that road win in Buffalo
14:25But this was it was like a weight lifted it was a joy rediscovered
14:30Validation it was okay
14:31We might be able to do this and who knows again how far they take it forward
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