"We're not Progressing because we're not Promoting The Tight Talent" Haider Naqvi's Statement
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"We're not Progressing because we're not Promoting The Tight Talent" Haider Naqvi's Statement
"We're not Progressing because we're not Promoting The Tight Talent" Haider Naqvi's Statement
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00:00Now let's go to Mr. Rana Sonawala, when he was asked the question again, he is saying that
00:05the issue of retirement age, because there is still controversy on it,
00:10if the retirement age increases, then the current Chief Justice will be able to continue,
00:16otherwise on 23rd October or 24th October, his term of employment will be over.
00:21What is he saying, listen.
00:22Two things have been discussed for a long time.
00:25The judges of the High Court, their age of retirement is 62 years.
00:30The judges of the Supreme Court, their date of retirement is 65 years.
00:35Now for these three years, there is a fight every time, everywhere.
00:39Every person wants to come here from there, to take three more years of time.
00:44There is no harm in it, if the date of retirement of the High Court and the Supreme Court is the same,
00:51both should be 65 years.
00:53In this regard, the Barge is also on board, and the judges have no objection.
01:00So this is something that is under consideration, that everyone, and let me tell you this,
01:06or you can note it, that if the age increases, it will not only increase for the judges,
01:11it will increase for everyone.
01:14If the age increases, Mr. Chaudhary, it will increase for everyone, it will increase for you too.
01:18Mr. Khawar, if you permit me, then you will have to ask a question and if you don't want to answer it, then don't.
01:24So, because Mr. Khawar Guman, these judges of the Supreme Court, 8 or 11 or all of them,
01:32because according to them, or you, they have given a judgment contrary to the law,
01:39so should these people be dismissed through a resolution, or should they themselves resign?
01:44Resolution is enough for a National Assembly, in my opinion, but Mr. Musade Malik is saying that we need a right judge.
01:50No, what you are talking about, you listen to it first.
01:54No, he is addressing me.
01:56You are addressing him, you are not talking to him.
01:57No, you are not talking to me.
01:58He is an old man, let him talk.
01:59No, I am not talking to you.
02:00He is laughing, he is smiling.
02:01You know what, we know.
02:03No, I will listen patiently, Mr. Chaudhary is great, I have a lot of respect for him.
02:07Look, we take your effect and Mr. Naqvi's effect very seriously,
02:12our self-confidence is damaged, so you should take care of our health.
02:16No, let Mr. Chaudhary take care of his health, he wants to talk, let him talk.
02:20I am saying that you should take care of us a little.
02:21Mr. Musade Malik is saying, listen to it first.
02:26There are many countries where this seniority principle is the best judge.
02:32There must be a discussion, a school of thought must be saying that this should happen,
02:35a school of thought must be saying that this should not happen.
02:37One says, as we say in civil service, everyone reaches to a certain level of incompetence.
02:46So, this should not happen.
02:48In the world, it happens that you have never said that the oldest person should be made CEO.
02:54So, when this is not the case anywhere in the world, and people do application of mind seriously,
02:59and the best person is given a chance, and age is put on success,
03:06till the time you don't become an old man, we will not let you succeed.
03:10Sir, but it was interesting what you said.
03:12This is our Mr. Musade Malik, viewers, till the time you don't become an old man.
03:18Now, Mr. Musade Malik, you know, viewers, he has spent most of his life in America,
03:23he has studied from America, in America, he has studied something in biochemistry.
03:29Sorry, if I am wrong in the information in this regard.
03:33Viewers, in America, when a judge is appointed, there are nine judges there,
03:38so that judge, till the time that brother-in-law does not die,
03:43till then he remains on that position, or he can be on the side of his own will,
03:49no one can raise a finger towards the judge.
03:52Mr. Nagni, you are a right judge.
03:54Once a judge is appointed at the level of Supreme Court, you can imagine,
03:59that you understand this argument,
04:01I mean, you don't have to be more influenced by the emotions of Hassan Ayub.
04:08I am talking a little differently.
04:11I mean, you understand this argument that there is one person,
04:14he fulfills the criteria, he is first a judge of the High Court,
04:18Chief Justice of the High Court, after that he becomes a judge of the Supreme Court.
04:21Still, our rulers across the board need a right judge for the right place.
04:29Let's look at this from a different perspective.
04:31This is a legal matter.
04:33You should come in our perspective.
04:34Mr. Nagni, you should look at our position.
04:37This is your position that I am talking about.
04:38Why are you bringing me from the district judiciary?
04:40You should come to our position and talk a little.
04:43Maybe it will be easier for you.
04:46No, I am talking from your position, that's why I said let's look at it from a different perspective.
04:48Yes, yes.
04:49So, look, the thing is that,
04:53whether it is judges,
04:54they take advantage of the law, governments and institutions,
04:59whether it is judges, whether it is the officers sitting in other institutions,
05:03in any case, whether it is in the bureaucracy or in the government,
05:06it is everywhere.
05:08Let's talk about private institutions, let's talk about the media.
05:11Our misfortune is that why are we not able to progress?
05:15We are not able to progress because we do not allow the right talent to come forward.
05:20Let's just talk about the media.
05:21The one who is in power has closed the door from inside.
05:24Now he does not allow anyone to enter.
05:26People have been doing talk shows here for 25 years.
05:29There are 200 people behind them, give them a chance.
05:32They have been sitting in the media positions for 25 years.
05:35There are poor talented people behind them, give them a chance.
05:37For 25 years, you have been doing talk shows.
05:39Mr. Nagni, I have been doing this for 4-5 years.
05:41Mr. Nagni, I have just come into the profession for the last few years.
05:44I said 25 years because I was afraid you would not listen to yourself.
05:47No, no, I was afraid you would not listen to yourself.
05:49I want to tell you that the government is doing this to save itself.
05:54You have to camouflage yourself.
05:57If you do not go on vacations, you say, let's listen to the reviews, we will go after a week.
06:03There was no debate, there was no fight, milk and water became water.
06:07You yourself invited the government.
06:09You told the government to come and fight with us.
06:12The government stayed within the scope of the law and started fighting on the floor level.
06:17They started bringing resolutions, they started giving statements that come within the scope of the law,
06:23which is used by the parliament.
06:25So the thing is that we will have to think about all these scenarios,
06:30whether it is related to any institution.
06:32Are we allowing the right people to come forward, number one?
06:36Is the government supporting the right people, number two?
06:38And third, if there is any such conflict, protest or attack on anyone,
06:44did the government not invite it?