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00:00Okay, when I won the competition, I went home.
00:02He greeted me there.
00:04And I was wearing a wedding dress.
00:07So, he used that picture.
00:09People said, I'm actually already married.
00:12Actually, I have a child.
00:13I have a husband.
00:14I want to be a singer.
00:15And there were people who said he was my ex-husband.
00:18They sent me a letter.
00:19Back then, they used magazines and everything, right?
00:22So, they sent me that letter.
00:24Oh, he admitted that he was my ex-husband.
00:27Look at that.
00:28It was something I never thought of.
00:30I said, how did it happen?
00:31I was like, why?
00:34The first slander was big for you, right?
00:35That's right.
00:36And there were people who believed it.
00:38That was the first slander.
00:39I think it was a false story about me.
00:41Did you feel guilty at that time?
00:43I don't think I felt guilty anymore.
00:50Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
00:52You're back with me, Sudirman Muatthair.
00:54In a very special and dark room confession this week.
00:58Because I'm with a legendary singer.
01:03She's been in the industry for almost 40 years.
01:06According to her age, she's 38 years old.
01:10This is Kak Ramlah Ram.
01:13How are you, Kak?
01:14Alhamdulillah, Sudir.
01:15I'm fine, Alhamdulillah.
01:16How are you, Rissa?
01:19That's the song, right?
01:20Right?
01:21That's it.
01:21How are you?
01:22The first song.
01:24Kak, thank you for being with me.
01:27You're welcome.
01:28We know that Ramlah Ram is one of the names that I consider.
01:34We already know when we mention Ramlah.
01:36Ramlah Ram, right?
01:38She started her competition in 1985.
01:43She's the same age as me, right?
01:4539 years old.
01:46Wow.
01:48So, she recorded her first album in 1986.
01:55So, according to her, she's more or less 38 or 39 years old.
02:01Yes, more or less.
02:02And you still have a single to this day.
02:05I still have a single.
02:06Because I feel like it's a sign of thank you.
02:11To the fans who always support.
02:13So, it's like a gift for them.
02:17Until now, if possible, every year.
02:20Until now.
02:21Every year, if possible, there must be one or two singles.
02:26As a gift.
02:28And I think the fans of Ramlah Ram.
02:33I think the Malaysian people who grew up with the songs at Ramlah, right?
02:36Can't forget the song, Kau Kunci Cintaku Dalam Hatimu.
02:40When the song won the song contest on August 8, 1988.
02:48That was the press conference on August 8, 1988.
02:52The day of the press conference.
02:54Because I still remember that day was chosen for that year.
02:57So, when it came to winning the song, we realized it wasn't that day.
03:00That was for the press conference.
03:03And if you count the age of the song, it's more or less 35 years old, right?
03:06Yes, that's right.
03:07And that song is also the one that wakes up and sleeps.
03:11Still have to sing too.
03:12So, no matter where you go, you still have to sing.
03:14I mean, the song is like if...
03:15If you don't sing, people will be angry.
03:17I mean, if I sleep and wake up, I can continue.
03:20But if you go to a show and don't sing, people will be angry, right?
03:22Of course, they will be angry. Can't go home.
03:24So, you have to sing too.
03:26Song after song.
03:27Besides the fans who left their memories for him,
03:31For me too.
03:32Because I really...
03:33Every singer has a song that will bring him to the top.
03:37For me, the song Kunci has a lot of memories and history in my life.
03:43Indeed, the song is very special.
03:45The album is also very special.
03:46Because the album is also the one that put me as...
03:49The one that was sold before this, right?
03:51I mean, the first one, right?
03:53The first solo artist who sold an album.
03:55Which is 100,000 units, right?
03:58And one interesting fact, actually, I want to share.
04:02Kak Ramlah is one of the artists who will have an album every decade.
04:08Oh yeah? Actually, I didn't realize it myself.
04:10Yes.
04:12Alhamdulillah.
04:13So, indeed, if we compare it to now,
04:16It's hard for us to see an artist who has an album, right?
04:19Single.
04:20But in the past, the singer had to have an album.
04:24If not, people say, you're not a singer if you don't have an album, right?
04:27Every album has 10 songs, it has to have a full album, I mean.
04:30It has to have an album.
04:32Because if only one single comes out, it's not a singer.
04:34Yes, that's in the past, right?
04:36In the past, that's right.
04:36In many, many albums, right?
04:39In many, many albums or songs.
04:41In hundreds of songs.
04:44Maybe there's a song that you feel like, it's hard to sing.
04:48It's hard.
04:48Or there's an event behind that song.
04:51Okay, for example, in the past, I don't know, right?
04:54Sometimes the singer, maybe there's a song that's related to himself.
05:00So, like, did you have a song that depicted the life of Ramlah Ram at that time?
05:04I don't know if it's related to me.
05:05It's always like, if you ask a lot of singers, sometimes things happen after the song is sung, actually.
05:11It's always like, for example, like the song,
05:14Kau kunci cintaku dalam hatimu.
05:16Actually, I forced myself to go into the soul of the song.
05:20Because I didn't have the experience.
05:22Oh.
05:22Experience.
05:23So, at that time, I remember Arhamah Majuwi.
05:25Majuwi was in the studio.
05:26He wrote the lyrics of the song, right?
05:28So, like he said, Ramlah, go in.
05:30Imagine how many times, right?
05:32Because if we have experience.
05:33Wait, how old were you at that time?
05:35Oh, I was 21.
05:36Oh, you didn't have any love experience.
05:3821, 22 years old, like that.
05:39Because I was late.
05:40Even in school, I never had a boyfriend.
05:42Oh, okay.
05:43I never had any kind of love experience.
05:44There's no monkey story, right?
05:45Okay, I understand.
05:46So, like, I never felt frustrated.
05:48Like, I never felt disappointed in love.
05:49So, you sang a song that was disappointing.
05:51Yes, disappointing.
05:51I mean, it was very disappointing.
05:53Like, oh, he left me.
05:55Like, how does it feel when he leaves a lover like that.
05:59So, that thing, I had no experience.
06:02I had no experience.
06:03So, like, to sing this song, it's actually a bit difficult.
06:08So, I had to act.
06:10Then I imagined, not imagining love.
06:13Maybe imagining people I love.
06:15Like, mom, dad.
06:16Imagine those things to get that sad feeling, right?
06:21So, like that.
06:22When he told me about this,
06:26the story of the song, I mean.
06:28So, my experience was there.
06:30At first, when I recorded the song, Kau Kunci.
06:32I mean, when I got there.
06:34Did you cry many times?
06:36Until he asked me to cry.
06:37Until I could cry.
06:39If I was with that person, I would cry.
06:41I recorded that song at that time.
06:43Until I cried.
06:43Okay, record.
06:45Record that song.
06:46That's it.
06:46Is it true?
06:47I don't know if it's true or not.
06:49As an old person.
06:50If in the past, the singer wanted to record this song.
06:54If he can't, he must be scolded in the studio, right?
06:57Look at who the composer is.
06:58And look at how he scolds others.
07:00Like, I guess.
07:01Have you ever?
07:02Like, scared.
07:03Scared like, they say, Dato' Ahmad Awad, right?
07:05If we listen to Dato' Hj. Mdm. Ilah first.
07:07Because there are a lot of stories about him.
07:09And when we listen to the story,
07:10Oh, he's fierce, you know.
07:11Fierce.
07:12So, the feeling of fear is there.
07:14Because I don't have any experience from my hometown.
07:17Then, like, oh, I want to go to the recording studio.
07:19It's like I don't have any experience in the studio.
07:21Then, I want to record.
07:22All those things are new to me, right?
07:24So, when I met him for the first time.
07:26Anyway, before we did the recording.
07:28Like Dato' Ahmad Awad.
07:29He likes to meet before making a song.
07:32That's like, if we talk about the difference.
07:35He is a composer who likes to meet us first.
07:38And study our character.
07:39Before he made the song.
07:41Okay, I understand.
07:41So, how is he?
07:42So, how does he talk?
07:44How does his voice speak?
07:45So, how is this character?
07:47And then, when he made the song.
07:48Okay.
07:48So, when I met him, I didn't want to talk to him either.
07:50So, like, I'm afraid to be in the studio.
07:53So, in the studio, he's fierce, you know.
07:55I'm also afraid to start.
07:57So, he's...
07:58But actually, he's never been angry.
07:59He's never been angry with me, never.
08:01But I know when he's angry.
08:03He's angry, he'll just be quiet.
08:05So, like, there's one song that I...
08:08Sometimes there's that song too.
08:09Sometimes there are songs that I don't know.
08:10Like, for example, one song.
08:12I hope you still remember that song.
08:13Maybe if you're a fan, you might know it.
08:16I think I've been sitting at the bottom.
08:19I don't know what else I want to do.
08:21Because he keeps...
08:22Sitting on the floor?
08:23I think I'm sitting on the floor.
08:24Then I sit.
08:24He's looking for me.
08:25Ramla, Ramla, Ramla.
08:26I already feel like, what else does he want?
08:28I've already given it, it's okay.
08:30What else does he want?
08:31So, things like that.
08:33So, like, songs that sometimes...
08:35Can make me remember those memories.
08:36Because I hope you still remember that.
08:38I will remember it until when I feel like I've given up.
08:40Okay.
08:41Like I've given up, what else does he want?
08:43What else is missing?
08:43Sometimes I want to go out, I want to hit him.
08:45Okay.
08:48I don't know what he wants.
08:49But actually, he's very careful and he knows what.
08:51Actually, when I think about it, I go out again.
08:53Oh, instead of this.
08:56So, that thing is more...
08:57That's his experience as a composer.
09:00Who has a lot of experience with all kinds of things.
09:04What song is the hardest for you?
09:07Because we know...
09:08For example, like a song that you still remember.
09:10Because we know the key of your song is high.
09:12The high one is okay.
09:13Because maybe for me, at that time there was no problem.
09:16Because like this composer, he already knows our range.
09:19So, he already knows how far we can go.
09:22Our ability.
09:23So, maybe there weren't too many problems there.
09:27But sometimes to deliver that song.
09:29With what he wants.
09:30Actually, when this composer is in his head.
09:33What, how does this song want to be?
09:35I mean, what song can he get?
09:39I mean, until he can feel what he wants in that song.
09:43So, we want to bring that song.
09:45Want to get what he wants.
09:47Feel. That's the hard thing.
09:50Sometimes from the lyrics, maybe in the studio, maybe he changes.
09:53Sometimes when he's in the studio, maybe it will be changed.
09:55Change again.
09:56Because we...
09:57Like Datuk Manok, he's like...
10:00The most angry, if he goes to the studio, if he doesn't eat.
10:03If he doesn't eat?
10:04If he doesn't eat, it's one of the things he's most angry about.
10:07So, if he doesn't eat, he will ask him to go back and eat.
10:10But that's his behavior.
10:11He never wants to be angry or angry.
10:13I don't know about other composers.
10:15That's it. I never knew.
10:16But that's what I used to do with him.
10:21Kak, almost 40 years, right?
10:23From Nasri, it must be a long time, right?
10:29Yes, I think it's a long time.
10:30But I feel like that time is so short.
10:32That's right, right?
10:35Of course, I think maybe you yourself also went through a phase.
10:38Fell down, like and so on.
10:41If we break it back, right, Kak?
10:44We go back in time.
10:46In what year did you feel like, oh, it's actually difficult.
10:50The life of being a singer, Ramlahram itself.
10:53That's right, sometimes it's like, Kak.
10:55Think about it, like before, I've said, Kak.
10:59I've never actually dreamed of being a singer.
11:02So, from school, but I also like to sing.
11:06I like to sing, I really like it, I mean.
11:08But I've never dreamed of being a singer.
11:11So, we've never thought about it, oh, how good it is to live as a singer.
11:16I've never thought about it.
11:18What we know, oh, I like it.
11:19The kind that likes to sing, he likes people to clap their hands.
11:22He likes people like, oh, he appreciates us singing, he likes us singing, Kak.
11:25That's all I feel like you like to do.
11:27So, like when I live as a singer, I've never thought that we want to live in that situation.
11:31Glamor, right?
11:32I never knew.
11:33So, like that thing, when people know us, like in the beginning,
11:36like when people know me, I don't feel like, eh, eh, do people know me?
11:40Like, so on and so forth, like things that we've never thought about, right?
11:44So, at that time, when time passes, when there are changes,
11:48when people, all things in our lives, everyone will know.
11:51So, those things become like, um, it's really, really, it's like this.
11:57So, like things that we feel, oh, it's never been like this, it seems.
11:59Like, uh, it's been a while, it's been a while, oh my God, I don't want it anymore.
12:03There are also.
12:04But sometimes when you look around us, what's around us, what's around us now,
12:10not everyone has it.
12:12That's right.
12:13The talent, uh, that, uh, all of our talents, I mean, right?
12:16The talent of the Malay people, I mean.
12:17Allah gives this.
12:19Not everyone, Allah gives.
12:20So, from that thing, sometimes, when the spirit of our close friends makes us.
12:27Is there a down phase too, Kak?
12:29I think everything must pass.
12:32All, all feelings must have passed at that time.
12:35Our lives, no matter where we live, not necessarily as a singer,
12:38we must have that down time.
12:41There must be.
12:42Kak, honestly, I've never felt it.
12:44Yes, through love, uh, when I won the AJL,
12:48we know that the singer's market is really,
12:52if you say sure, it's really weak, Kak, at that time, right?
12:55Yes.
12:56When the years change, the times change,
12:59have you ever felt like, oh, I'm not popular anymore?
13:03Do you feel that thing, Kak?
13:05Okay, like this.
13:06Like, Kak, okay, it depends on our acceptance.
13:09When we're like, okay, I think, I was ready from the beginning, you know.
13:13I mean, no matter what the story is,
13:17we must have fallen off the building,
13:19there must be a fan, there must be us.
13:21And we have to be ready from the beginning.
13:23I mean, we're not necessarily there.
13:26We must have been there for a long time.
13:28And even though we're like people, I mean,
13:31you don't want to live an ordinary life, I mean.
13:34So, the situation will change.
13:38So, if we're ready, I never feel, I hold one,
13:41that blessing is from Allah.
13:42And at every age, our blessings must be determined by Allah.
13:46In any situation.
13:47And our efforts must be there while we pray, I mean, right?
13:50I mean, from there, I'm ready in any situation.
13:53So, I mean, we feel, we will know,
13:55even though we sit at one level,
13:57the most important thing is that we are at the top.
14:00But we will be there forever.
14:05So, we just try to hold on to our name.
14:08That's Allah's will for me.
14:10So, I'm always grateful for what Allah has given.
14:13I never thought, oh, there's a new kid,
14:14how am I going to do this?
14:16You want to fight, right?
14:17I always think like this, you know.
14:18But I don't know, maybe people's differences.
14:20Different.
14:20Different.
14:21I always think,
14:22everything that Allah has made,
14:24has its own specialties.
14:25Including ourselves,
14:27and also including our talents that Allah has given.
14:29So, I feel like,
14:32effort must be put in,
14:33for us, like I said,
14:34in, like, if we,
14:36through, like, Nafasani,
14:38the song, like, the change of music.
14:40So, we have to take note of all those things.
14:43But I've never worried about,
14:45like, oh, I have to fight him like this.
14:47So, we feel comfortable being ourselves.
14:50I mean, because we have accepted,
14:52because we have said, oh, what do you think?
14:54What, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.
14:56That's what I've been thinking about.
14:58I have what Allah has given, not everyone is the same.
15:00Every singer has their own specialties,
15:02and their own shortcomings.
15:03So, in our lives,
15:06every shortcoming,
15:07we try to fix it as much as we can.
15:10And as a singer,
15:11we know what our advantages are,
15:13that others don't have.
15:14So, we have to look for that, I think.
15:17And we don't have it,
15:18there are people around us,
15:19next to us, people around us,
15:20who, who, who,
15:21because when we are singers,
15:23it's not just us who will move.
15:24I mean, there are people,
15:25our team will help us.
15:28So, next to those people,
15:29we have to take care of ourselves.
15:31And like you said,
15:33it's like,
15:34I don't feel like,
15:35oh, they're arguing, I have to...
15:36Yes.
15:37I don't think I've ever been like that.
15:40Next to us, we have to try,
15:41we have to, I mean.
15:42But I believe in the blessings of Allah,
15:44which Allah has given,
15:45and I believe in what's in me.
15:47That's right.
15:49Like you said earlier,
15:50you've never been a singer.
15:53But when you,
15:55people say,
15:56when you entered the competition,
15:57you won for the first time.
15:59And you were invited to be an artist
16:01by a recording company.
16:02What did your parents say at that time?
16:05Okay, I remember,
16:07at the beginning,
16:08when we were still in the competition,
16:10there was an offer to be a recording artist.
16:13But at that time, we weren't accepted
16:14because if we were accepted,
16:16when we were in the competition,
16:18we would be disqualified.
16:20So, we didn't accept it.
16:21But,
16:23my family supported me.
16:25They liked it.
16:26Even though my mother didn't support me at first,
16:29when I was in school,
16:30my mother didn't encourage me too much
16:32because she was afraid that we wouldn't be able to study.
16:35So, my father...
16:36Did you finish school?
16:37Yes, I did.
16:39So, my father,
16:40at that time,
16:41when I was in SPM,
16:43so,
16:44I was always invited to sing at weddings.
16:48My father was in a group called Gazal.
16:50So, my mother would listen to me.
16:51My mother would talk to me like,
16:54Oh, I'm so angry.
16:54Why did you invite this kid to go?
16:56You're still studying.
16:57But, I know that he was supportive in his heart.
16:59That's why at the end,
17:01at the end of the final,
17:03even though I got a letter of challenge,
17:04which my father almost didn't let me go
17:08because I got a letter of challenge,
17:09a telegram.
17:09At that time, I had four telegrams.
17:11He almost said,
17:12Oh, don't go if you don't want anything to happen to your child.
17:14Don't go.
17:16Until what?
17:17Until my father didn't let me go.
17:19He said,
17:20Oh, I don't want to be afraid of anything.
17:21He said, what do you want to happen?
17:22My mother said, it's okay, it's okay.
17:24If you're afraid to go, it's okay.
17:25I will accompany you.
17:26It's okay, it's okay.
17:27It's all Allah's will.
17:28You don't have to go.
17:29It's okay, I'll go.
17:29Because I didn't want to force him.
17:32Because at that time, I didn't want to force him.
17:34But my mother encouraged me at that time.
17:35Although my father,
17:36they were the same.
17:37My father was the one who encouraged me a lot.
17:39But at that level,
17:40my father knew that he didn't want to go.
17:42He was afraid of what would happen to me.
17:44So, I went.
17:46So, there were a lot of stories.
17:47The story was like that.
17:49The story was like that.
17:50So, they supported me.
17:53The journey was blessed, right?
17:55Yes, it was blessed.
17:57And that's why it's made easier until now.
17:59Yes, praise be to Allah.
18:00Even from the beginning, he already accepted it.
18:02That's right.
18:03Like a burden.
18:05Yes, like a burden.
18:06But at that time,
18:07But at that time, people were afraid to go to Ramlahram.
18:10I don't know what to say.
18:11But at that time,
18:12at the beginning,
18:13when I was on my way to go there,
18:19So, maybe Allah wants to show that this is just the beginning.
18:21And we have to face the challenges that we have to face.
18:25We have to be strong.
18:26But when we entered the mosque,
18:29we couldn't do anything.
18:30When we entered the mosque,
18:31we couldn't do anything.
18:33Sister, at that time,
18:34which artist became your idol?
18:37Oh, I actually like a lot of people.
18:41For example, I like to listen to the song of Solomon.
18:43I like the song of Solomon.
18:45Then, I listen to the song of Arafa Aini.
18:48Then, at that time,
18:49Francisca Peter.
18:50Then, at that time, I listen to Hattie Cossendang.
18:54So, I listen to a lot of songs.
18:57Actually, when the songs that are always released in Indo,
18:59I like it, I memorize it.
19:00But the songs that I like,
19:02for example, Hattie Cossendang.
19:06I like to listen to that song.
19:07I have a lot of influence with him.
19:09Because I made an album with Nandu.
19:11I made a traditional album.
19:13So, I like songs that want to be versatile.
19:18So, I got a lot of influence from him, actually.
19:22At the beginning of school.
19:23And then, when my songs were in competitions,
19:25Francisca Peter's songs,
19:26I sang a lot.
19:28So, I have a lot of people who like to be my idol.
19:32So, besides the song of Atuk Syifa Aini,
19:33I listen to a lot of songs.
19:36Sister, what did you do with the first money for the show?
19:40Okay, the first money for the show,
19:42I gave it to my mother.
19:43I wanted to spend it all on the show.
19:46Did you have a lot of money at that time?
19:47How much was it, sister?
19:48I don't remember.
19:50But a lot.
19:50You had a lot of money at that time.
19:51I gave it to my mother because she took care of it.
19:53I was once cheated too.
19:54At the beginning,
19:55the people who took the opportunity.
19:58Because, you know, we are from a zero family.
20:02We don't know anything.
20:03You don't have any background music.
20:04No, we don't know anything about the show.
20:06So, it's like people.
20:06But in the end, we don't have many people.
20:09Those who came back,
20:11who told me that they had a lot of money,
20:13I asked my aunts and uncles.
20:14I asked Ramla, actually.
20:16Ramla, like this, like this.
20:17We gave it to her.
20:17I don't know why,
20:18but they explained it to us.
20:20I don't know, maybe because of Allah.
20:22She felt guilty herself.
20:23That was early.
20:25When my mother took care of it.
20:26Because at first, when I sang,
20:27it was my mother who accompanied me here and there.
20:29Followed you there.
20:29Followed me there until my mother was tired.
20:32Until my mother was tired.
20:33After winning the star,
20:35that was really,
20:36I think it was the time
20:40when I fainted the most.
20:41That time, after Kau Kunci,
20:43eh, maybe it wasn't Kau Kunci, I think.
20:45I had it.
20:46Until I was so tired.
20:47How many shows were there that day?
20:49Until I went to 2-3 shows,
20:502-3-4 shows.
20:50Sometimes I went home,
20:51I don't know,
20:51even at the airport, I didn't go home.
20:53Okay, that's not bad too.
20:54Until I felt like,
20:56maybe my body couldn't take it anymore.
20:57Too tired.
20:58Until then, I remember at that time,
20:59BMG said,
21:01oh, don't take too much.
21:03So I had to limit it.
21:05Yes, at that time, the album Kunci.
21:06Yes, it exploded, right?
21:09Kak, through the phase,
21:11yes, from the beginning of the process,
21:13then when the album was released,
21:17the song and the rest were well received.
21:18Of course, at the same time,
21:20when his name became an attention,
21:22many challenges arose.
21:24That's right.
21:24Especially when he became a popular artist at that time,
21:27famous.
21:28Here and there, right?
21:29Gossip about him and everything.
21:30That's right.
21:32How was the family upbringing, Kak?
21:35That's what at the beginning,
21:37at the beginning,
21:37I think I was afraid of getting a family
21:39that didn't pressure me so much,
21:41that they could understand.
21:45I didn't face problems that were too big
21:48with the family.
21:49Even though,
21:50no one pressured me about things like that.
21:52But myself,
21:53and because at that time,
21:55I thought a lot,
21:56oh, this is the situation like this.
21:57So things like,
22:00I thought back,
22:00oh, sometimes it's like something's wrong.
22:02Something's wrong, why?
22:04Eh, why can I be like that?
22:05Because at the beginning,
22:07at the beginning of the story,
22:09I was like,
22:11actually, I was already married.
22:13Oh, okay.
22:14That's the beginning of the story.
22:15The picture of the story is like that?
22:16Yes, because at that time,
22:18okay, when I won the competition,
22:20I came back,
22:21he greeted me there.
22:22And I was wearing a wedding dress.
22:25Oh.
22:26So the picture he used,
22:28people said,
22:28actually, I'm already married.
22:31Actually, I'm leaving my child,
22:32I'm leaving my husband,
22:33I want to be a singer.
22:34That was the first slander
22:35that I felt was a false story
22:36about me.
22:38I felt like,
22:38I was like,
22:40oh my God, why is it like this?
22:41Why is it so easy for people
22:42to make a story like this?
22:44It's like,
22:44so the first thing I faced,
22:46I was like,
22:46is it like this?
22:48So I started to feel.
22:49Were you embarrassed to answer at that time?
22:51I didn't answer anymore, I think.
22:53Like, who do you want to answer to?
22:54When people ask,
22:55it's like,
22:56I've been mature for a long time,
22:59thinking about facing these things, right?
23:01Because we don't know anything,
23:03so it's like,
23:03eh, why is it like this?
23:05The first slander, you know.
23:06Maybe the family also felt like,
23:08eh, why is it like this?
23:09It's like,
23:10suddenly people can use evidence,
23:12pictures,
23:13and there are people who are willing to say
23:15that he is an ex-husband.
23:16Send a letter,
23:17which used to be a magazine or something, right?
23:20So they sent the letter to there,
23:22said, oh, he admitted that he was an ex-husband.
23:25Look at the situation like that.
23:26Because things that have never been thought of,
23:28at least that thing will happen to him,
23:29like,
23:30eh, why is it like that?
23:32The first slander was also big at that time, right?
23:33Yes, that's right.
23:34Then there are also those who believe.
23:36So those who want to believe, believe.
23:37How do we want to put it?
23:39Want to believe everyone, right?
23:41So things like that.
23:42But that thing did become like a big surprise for me.
23:46Like, I feel like this.
23:48Like we used to think,
23:49oh, being a singer is great.
23:51Look like, oh,
23:52get to sing,
23:53get to see how.
23:55I guess we feel,
23:56even though we've never seen it,
23:57it's great.
23:58But I think from one angle,
23:59back then,
24:00like,
24:01because we like to sing, right?
24:02So when we see people singing,
24:03just enjoy it.
24:04Go to Pentas to sing.
24:05People clap their hands to him,
24:07happy to hear him.
24:08Because I really like that.
24:09I mean,
24:10so we just think in that direction.
24:11We don't think about other things.
24:13Because maybe at that time,
24:14we were still young
24:15and we didn't think about things
24:17that need to be there, here.
24:18Like when we sing, right?
24:20So when that,
24:21we realize it.
24:22A little bit, a little bit.
24:24Actually, the higher we are,
24:25that's the beginning, right?
24:26The higher we are,
24:27the more we have,
24:27the more.
24:28His doubts.
24:29Doubts and the more
24:30that surround us.
24:32That try to make us fall.
24:33Try to make us fall.
24:34And you yourself noticed that, right?
24:37Many times, right?
24:38Yes.
24:39We feel,
24:40little by little,
24:41we feel more and more,
24:42more and more.
24:42Until,
24:43yes,
24:43until one stage
24:44that we feel like
24:46there is no endurance.
24:47It's like,
24:47as I said earlier,
24:49there are times when we feel the most
24:50down.
24:51Down.
24:52And then it feels like
24:53I want to get up again.
24:55But it's really a struggle.
24:57Do you have a friend,
24:58an artist who tried it?
25:01Still there.
25:02I don't know.
25:03We want to talk,
25:04we don't have proof.
25:06Right.
25:06So, like when we,
25:07in our own lives,
25:08like we say,
25:09well, of course,
25:10when we're in the field,
25:12we're not all close to us.
25:14Good.
25:15Good.
25:15Not all of us are close to us.
25:17Sincere.
25:18Like with success.
25:19We like to see us succeed.
25:20Not all.
25:21Sometimes we say,
25:22there is.
25:22So there,
25:23we,
25:24when we want to say,
25:25this person, this person, this person.
25:26So I'm like,
25:27I don't want to make a point.
25:28I don't want to make a point.
25:29I think I'm okay.
25:30People who want to like,
25:32make friends with us.
25:33Because I'm like,
25:34even now, I don't.
25:35I don't like it.
25:37Right.
25:37That's why I want to ask.
25:38Because that's why I feel,
25:40too small.
25:42But sometimes when people say that,
25:44we're anti-social.
25:45But actually,
25:46when in the experience that we go through,
25:50I feel safer like that.
25:52Like,
25:52let people feel,
25:55if there are friends,
25:57let them be truly sincere.
25:59Even then, we can't think about it anymore.
26:02But we hope,
26:03every day we pray.
26:04Let people who are close to us,
26:06let God keep people away who,
26:09have intention to pray to us every day.
26:12Because we can't,
26:12want to determine,
26:15want to determine people.
26:16Because we don't know how people's hearts are.
26:18Are there any good friends,
26:19among,
26:20let's say,
26:21artists too,
26:22at that time?
26:22Now,
26:23I don't think so.
26:24I used to,
26:24when we were together,
26:25I was close to Ziana.
26:28Because we are in the same company.
26:29Because for me,
26:31when I feel like,
26:34how do you say,
26:35when we are close,
26:37when we can talk about personal,
26:38later when we can call,
26:39later we can go out together,
26:41I consider it close.
26:42Because when we feel,
26:43we are not close to people,
26:44we don't want to sit for a long time,
26:45to talk about our personal,
26:46of course we don't believe it.
26:48I've been there.
26:48But now,
26:50I don't have the closest one.
26:51That I can,
26:52a while ago,
26:53before Ziana got married,
26:55I've been there.
26:56When she got married,
26:56she still had her own life.
26:57Yes, she still had her own life.
26:59But not close to Ziana.
27:01A while ago, before she got married,
27:02I've been to one company.
27:04Just one.
27:06Maybe,
27:07an event that maybe,
27:09you can't forget until now,
27:11when talking about,
27:13work matters,
27:15personal.
27:17A lot.
27:18We can live,
27:19there are a lot of things that we regret,
27:21a lot of things that we feel,
27:22oh, if we want to break up again,
27:24at that time, of course.
27:25I don't think everyone in the company,
27:27there are people who feel,
27:29oh, my God, why did I do this?
27:31But,
27:32where is our life that we do everything,
27:33we feel like it's true.
27:35A lot of things we feel,
27:36but I don't think I look back at that time.
27:38Like,
27:39of course there is.
27:40I don't think we have to live,
27:41we have to focus on the future.
27:43And make sure there are mistakes,
27:45maybe your own mistakes too.
27:47If we live,
27:47we won't do everything right.
27:49So we learn from there.
27:50Of course,
27:51maybe there is,
27:52not like,
27:53why did I become like this?
27:54Why am I like this?
27:55Why am I like this?
27:56So,
27:57that thing is made as,
27:59for us to correct ourselves.
28:01I mean,
28:01if we make a mistake,
28:02it's on us.
28:04And if we feel like,
28:05oh,
28:06like,
28:06we feel maybe at that time,
28:08like, I feel like,
28:09oh, why didn't I,
28:10sometimes,
28:11I'm too,
28:13how do you say it?
28:14Not that,
28:16sometimes I like to be quiet,
28:17and then like,
28:18things like,
28:20there are things that,
28:21the effects of that language,
28:22that I feel like,
28:26the time will come,
28:27I mean, we correct it,
28:28I mean,
28:28there are things that we continue.
28:31There are a lot of things.
28:33Assuming,
28:34if you are given a choice,
28:35if you are given a choice,
28:37to correct,
28:39one thing,
28:41maybe,
28:42which one do you feel like,
28:44if you are given that choice?
28:45Well, we believe,
28:46to turn back time,
28:48we can't, right?
28:50There are a lot of things,
28:51I want to talk about here,
28:52there are a lot of things with,
28:53like,
28:53with family,
28:54with a lot of things,
28:55because when I feel like,
28:58I'm always busy with personal problems,
29:00sometimes there are times,
29:01like we,
29:03forget about family.
29:04Because I'm the type,
29:05when there's a personal problem,
29:06I'm like too quiet,
29:07because I like to be quiet.
29:08Not sharing.
29:09And I've never told my family,
29:10and I've never told,
29:11not sharing with people.
29:12And that thing sometimes eats you up.
29:14And like I said,
29:15until I,
29:16can faint,
29:16can everything,
29:17and sometimes too,
29:18lazy with us,
29:19I mean, sometimes,
29:20at one time I've been,
29:21oh, like,
29:22I'm like,
29:23busy with my own personal problems,
29:24and I forgot about,
29:25with,
29:26with,
29:26with,
29:26with,
29:27with,
29:28let's say,
29:28pain.
29:29That's one thing,
29:30the regret that I feel,
29:31that I'm too busy with,
29:33work.
29:33my work,
29:34with my personal work,
29:35I forgot about it.
29:36And things that shouldn't be.
29:38That's one of the things I feel.
29:42One of the three,
29:42pain,
29:43I mean.
29:44Right?
29:45Yes,
29:45that's all,
29:46the teaching phase, right?
29:48That's right,
29:48that's one of them.
29:49So like,
29:50when we realize again,
29:51okay,
29:51but I'm telling the truth,
29:52in our lives,
29:56if you want to compare,
29:57like I said,
29:57I've said it before,
29:58because I'm not an expert,
29:59I've been through a lot,
30:01like,
30:02problems,
30:03with my father,
30:03and then dealing with,
30:04divorce problems,
30:06and then,
30:07a lot of things,
30:07and then,
30:08a lot of things that bother me,
30:10like all those things,
30:10and I'm like,
30:13too busy with my own personal problems.
30:16And at one time,
30:17I was like,
30:17oh,
30:17I forgot about people,
30:18it should be,
30:19like at the beginning,
30:21that gives us,
30:22encouragement,
30:23and we can't forget,
30:24wherever we go,
30:25it's our father.
30:26That's right.
30:27He always remembers us,
30:29and,
30:30we can feel that,
30:31when we,
30:32bring our relationship back,
30:34with our family.
30:36Inshallah,
30:36our lives will be smooth,
30:38calm,
30:38no problems.
30:39Actually,
30:40that's the root of it.
30:42That's what I mean,
30:43when we remember our father,
30:44Inshallah.
30:45Because I always remember,
30:47to the younger ones,
30:48from now on.
30:49Because that experience,
30:50we go through it ourselves.
30:51That's right.
30:51Don't ever,
30:52forget.
30:53forget,
30:53hurt.
30:54And I've been like,
30:57maybe I'm like,
30:58like I said,
31:00all parents want,
31:01their children to get divorced,
31:03and when that happens,
31:05and we don't want,
31:06like,
31:06one of our parents,
31:08that's why I,
31:10sometimes,
31:10like,
31:11not like,
31:12another mother-in-law,
31:13another father-in-law,
31:14alone,
31:14like that.
31:14I've been through,
31:16sometimes like that.
31:18And there,
31:18I've made a mistake there,
31:21and I,
31:21I've forgotten that,
31:23oh, this is my destiny,
31:23to work for Allah.
31:25And I,
31:26like,
31:26I'm stubborn,
31:27with what,
31:27so sometimes,
31:28I,
31:29that's the reason,
31:30sometimes.
31:31But after that,
31:32Alhamdulillah,
31:32we're all aware of it, right?
31:34That's right.
31:35Yes,
31:35the teacher,
31:36what,
31:36what happens,
31:37we make it as a lesson, right?
31:39And yes,
31:40of course,
31:41when,
31:42Ramadan remains until today,
31:46we believe that,
31:48it's not the stories,
31:49the gossip that's brought, right?
31:51But,
31:52the talent,
31:53eh, until now,
31:54the songs,
31:55that I reckon,
31:55if,
31:56even though,
31:57young people nowadays,
31:58if,
31:59if asked to sing a song,
32:01they know that too.
32:02If it's possible,
32:02if it's possible,
32:03I'll do it.
32:03Even though,
32:04I don't want,
32:05them,
32:06to think,
32:07that it's because,
32:09of love,
32:09or gossip,
32:10if it's possible.
32:11Because that's like,
32:11if it's possible,
32:12when a singer,
32:13it's because of his vocals,
32:14because of his song.
32:15His song,
32:16his dance,
32:17even though,
32:18I think,
32:18I want to be remembered,
32:19as my songs,
32:20and not,
32:21not because of,
32:22stories,
32:23because of that,
32:23because I don't agree,
32:25if,
32:26in today's era,
32:27usually,
32:28when I want,
32:29social media,
32:30when I want,
32:30with that kind of content,
32:31because I don't agree,
32:33with oh,
32:33if I want,
32:34when I want,
32:34want,
32:35want to do marketing,
32:35with things,
32:36with gossip,
32:37that's not,
32:37that's negative,
32:39I won't,
32:40I won't,
32:40I don't,
32:41I don't,
32:41I don't agree with that way.
32:43Right.
32:44But that's,
32:45the reality today,
32:46is like that,
32:47whenever,
32:48we see,
32:48the singers,
32:49who appear,
32:50new singers,
32:51sometimes,
32:52from social media,
32:54and their songs,
32:56well, we understand,
32:56like that too,
32:58and,
32:58for that time,
32:59maybe,
33:01there is no guarantee yet,
33:03but like,
33:03like,
33:04if we look at,
33:05Kak Ramlah,
33:05and also the old singers,
33:06who are still there,
33:07who are still until now,
33:08we already know,
33:09oh, because of what,
33:10they are still until now,
33:12and,
33:14want to know too,
33:15as well,
33:16from,
33:16almost 4 decades,
33:18in our industry,
33:19with the development of social media,
33:21do you still follow too, Kak?
33:22I mean,
33:23I mean,
33:24yes, the circulation, right?
33:26Eh, I have to,
33:26because for me,
33:27like,
33:27like,
33:28if still want,
33:29in this industry,
33:30I mean,
33:31indeed,
33:31we have to follow,
33:32because the way,
33:33back then,
33:34when releasing a song,
33:35to marketing a song,
33:36it's different,
33:36like,
33:37but like,
33:37I have to learn too,
33:38I myself,
33:39like,
33:40in the early days,
33:41like I said,
33:41I didn't,
33:42I mean,
33:43in the early days,
33:44Facebook,
33:45IG,
33:45TikTok,
33:46and now,
33:46those things,
33:47I have to follow,
33:47because back then,
33:48I didn't know anything,
33:49because when,
33:49in,
33:50when,
33:50the Rambla group,
33:52what is it,
33:52Rambla group,
33:53right,
33:53the fans,
33:54the people around me,
33:55I mean,
33:56with PSI,
33:56my PA,
33:57almost everyone,
33:57in this group,
33:58right,
33:59so they are younger,
34:00who,
34:00who will,
34:01teach me,
34:02to enter the world now,
34:04because we didn't have it back then,
34:05because back then,
34:05if the fans,
34:06with letters,
34:07with everything,
34:07so,
34:08that's a new thing,
34:09I have to learn,
34:10have to enter,
34:11even though,
34:11some people,
34:12indeed,
34:12don't follow too,
34:13yes,
34:14right,
34:14have to post,
34:15have to read,
34:16everything,
34:16so, when,
34:17want to be in this,
34:18so,
34:19have to,
34:19right,
34:20have to follow,
34:20even though,
34:21force yourself,
34:21yes,
34:22force yourself to,
34:24sister,
34:24one more thing,
34:24I think,
34:25since,
34:25a few years ago,
34:27when,
34:27when there was a program,
34:28reality,
34:29in Baganza,
34:29for example,
34:31I think,
34:31almost every year,
34:32heard,
34:33want Ramla Ram,
34:34want Ramla Ram to enter,
34:35but,
34:36a few seasons,
34:37no longer,
34:38so,
34:38is there this year,
34:39will,
34:40say,
34:41if this year,
34:41there is an example,
34:43will Ramla Ram,
34:43will be the participant,
34:45that's the question,
34:46always,
34:47I,
34:47I get,
34:48yes,
34:48because,
34:49this fan,
34:49gives hope,
34:50but usually,
34:51when,
34:52when I answer,
34:53it's the same thing,
34:54when I say,
34:54when I answer,
34:54oh,
34:55wait for my heart to open,
34:56okay,
34:57wait for my heart,
34:57as long as the door,
34:58this year,
34:59open heart,
35:01I don't know,
35:02I don't know either,
35:02want to answer anything,
35:03because,
35:04I don't want to,
35:04after I said,
35:05I can't say,
35:06I don't want,
35:07I can't say,
35:08I want too,
35:08because,
35:09if I want to say,
35:09I want,
35:09I haven't opened my heart yet,
35:11but,
35:11if I want to say,
35:12I don't want,
35:12then I don't want to say,
35:13let go,
35:13because sometimes,
35:14oh,
35:14I don't want,
35:14I don't want,
35:15suddenly,
35:15eh,
35:16I don't want,
35:16suddenly you come in,
35:17like that,
35:18there are people who say that,
35:19there are others,
35:20I don't want,
35:20eh,
35:21you,
35:21there are people who say,
35:22eh,
35:22you said,
35:22I don't want,
35:23but you came in,
35:23you said,
35:24but like me,
35:25I can answer,
35:25for myself,
35:26so if you come in,
35:27I'll give,
35:28I,
35:29no,
35:30I don't want,
35:30but I don't want to open my heart,
35:32because the commitment that I gave,
35:33I think I can't,
35:34want to give full commitment,
35:36because,
35:36at the time,
35:37I was afraid,
35:37because I am,
35:38at the moment,
35:39that's what I can answer,
35:40I can't say much,
35:41that's it.
35:41Or,
35:42or afraid of,
35:44people say,
35:44yes,
35:44Anasir,
35:45Anasir negative,
35:46in,
35:47in the competition,
35:49he has a lot of angles,
35:50I don't know,
35:50but when I say,
35:51even now,
35:51I,
35:53can't give,
35:53100% commitment,
35:54so,
35:55if I can't give,
35:56that's better,
35:57I said,
35:57I don't,
35:58I don't want to first,
35:59because I think,
35:59when,
36:00when,
36:00when we say,
36:01we want it,
36:02we have to give,
36:03100% commitment,
36:04we also want,
36:04for ourselves,
36:05and for people,
36:06that too,
36:07so,
36:07if you can't give it,
36:08I think,
36:09don't first,
36:10it's okay,
36:11don't first,
36:11don't first,
36:12don't first,
36:13we lock,
36:13you can say,
36:14don't first,
36:14don't,
36:15don't say you don't want,
36:16but,
36:16don't first,
36:17not,
36:18later first,
36:19later first,
36:19my heart has not been opened,
36:21the door of my heart has not been opened,
36:23how,
36:24what,
36:25personally too,
36:26still alone,
36:27so that's also the competition,
36:29yes, that's right,
36:31sister,
36:33throughout this career,
36:36we know,
36:36other than singing,
36:38now you are involved in,
36:39business too,
36:41cosmetics,
36:42is this maybe,
36:44become a choice that,
36:46I guess,
36:46okay,
36:47no longer singing,
36:48for example,
36:48one day later,
36:49you said,
36:50okay,
36:50I don't want to sing anymore,
36:51and,
36:52you have a business,
36:53actually,
36:54many things actually,
36:58when I think back,
36:59I'm amazed with the young people now,
37:01because,
37:02early,
37:03should be when as a celebrity,
37:05or singer,
37:07to do business,
37:08maybe easier,
37:09right,
37:10because there is,
37:10so all those things,
37:11never thought of before,
37:12but when there is,
37:13with,
37:14there is Hafiz,
37:15who is my PA,
37:16with,
37:16who is my client,
37:18who often,
37:19who often helps me,
37:20to do all those things,
37:21because,
37:21according to,
37:22it should have been a long time ago,
37:23but now it's like,
37:24to do,
37:24because I feel like,
37:26as an artist,
37:27using that weakness,
37:29which is not with others,
37:30for this business,
37:31means,
37:32it's necessary,
37:32and then actually,
37:33for themselves too,
37:34it's like,
37:36there's a chance,
37:37what's wrong with using it,
37:38right,
37:39for ourselves, right,
37:40which is not with others,
37:41meaning,
37:42the business,
37:43already has its own followers,
37:44already has its own fans, right,
37:45so I'm amazed with the young people now,
37:48so all those things,
37:48I also pay attention,
37:49from that point of view,
37:50it means,
37:51they are good, right,
37:52so early,
37:52the young people have realized,
37:54all those things,
37:55that they should use,
37:56they should be involved,
37:57because I should be involved too,
37:58I feel,
37:58you should do it for a long time, right,
38:00yes,
38:00it should be done for a long time,
38:01why is it like before,
38:02like,
38:03I've never been like that,
38:04like,
38:04like,
38:05with,
38:06with what,
38:06like,
38:07it's okay to go to the show there,
38:08so they don't think about it,
38:09this is another opportunity,
38:10meaning,
38:11I've never thought about it before,
38:13if around me,
38:14it's never bothered me,
38:15to do it,
38:16like this office, right,
38:17oh, do it,
38:17do a lot,
38:18a lot,
38:18that's my job, right,
38:19because I don't feel,
38:20oh, can't they,
38:21so,
38:22yes,
38:23if no one is next to me,
38:26maybe there's no one next to me,
38:26so I don't feel,
38:28maybe I don't do it,
38:29like that,
38:30but yes,
38:31I'm happy to see the young people now,
38:32when you've done it,
38:33it's fun, right,
38:34yes, that's right,
38:35sometimes we don't see those things,
38:37yes,
38:38like,
38:38but,
38:39okay,
38:39the young people now,
38:40a lot of young people,
38:41have started doing it,
38:43have realized,
38:45it's good,
38:45you know,
38:46proud,
38:47if we know,
38:48okay,
38:49yes, like before,
38:50when you were at the beginning of your appearance,
38:52you had a singer,
38:53that you liked,
38:54that you were interested in,
38:55right,
38:56made you an idol,
38:57if now,
38:58right,
38:59the young singers now,
39:00there must be some,
39:01idolizing Ramdah Ram,
39:02but if you yourself,
39:04for,
39:05our current industry,
39:07who might be a young artist,
39:08that you feel like,
39:09okay,
39:10he will maybe,
39:11remember your words,
39:13oh,
39:13look at him,
39:14like this,
39:15I used to,
39:16like that,
39:17that you feel like,
39:17okay, this kid will go far,
39:19that I can relate to,
39:20like back then,
39:21you said,
39:21like,
39:22like I see,
39:23Aina Abdul,
39:23Ernie,
39:24okay,
39:24because I feel like,
39:25but like me,
39:26I'm more,
39:27more focused on the vocals,
39:28okay,
39:29if you look at this new one,
39:30because I believe,
39:32I believe like,
39:32to last long,
39:34that person,
39:35like I said,
39:36to be popular,
39:37nothing can be done,
39:38nothing can be done,
39:39sometimes maybe people like your character,
39:40people like your appearance,
39:42maybe like that,
39:42but,
39:43when I think of one,
39:44one thing to last long,
39:47let them like us on vocals,
39:48I mean,
39:49I focus on them,
39:49because a singer,
39:50if a singer is called a singer,
39:52of course,
39:52on vocals,
39:53of course people want vocals,
39:53vocals,
39:54vocals are the main thing,
39:55so,
39:55that's why I think,
39:56for those who have vocals,
39:57they can last long,
39:59so like back then,
39:59from back then,
40:00I saw like,
40:01Ernie,
40:02like Aina,
40:03there's someone who,
40:04will become a rapist,
40:05who will,
40:06I feel like,
40:07can go far,
40:08among them,
40:09I don't think there's anyone else,
40:10but the ones who look like,
40:12in the beginning,
40:12I can give an example.
40:15Maybe the last one,
40:17right?
40:194,
40:20almost 4 decades,
40:22if we can say,
40:23the journey,
40:25Kak Ramlah,
40:26what can you sum up?
40:28My journey,
40:29how do I say it?
40:32What do you mean?
40:33Can you sum it up?
40:34Yes,
40:34I mean,
40:35for almost 4 decades,
40:37how was it?
40:37Yes,
40:37I mean,
40:39was it,
40:41beautiful,
40:42or maybe,
40:43fake?
40:47If we talk about it,
40:48in,
40:49in every aspect of life,
40:51we can't run away from,
40:52waking up,
40:54of course,
40:55life,
40:56that's why when,
40:57like,
40:58in my family,
41:00it's not like I want,
41:03to stop,
41:04but,
41:04but,
41:06I don't want to force it,
41:07but if it's a choice,
41:09in the form of,
41:09I don't want it anymore,
41:10but if I want to fast,
41:11I like it.
41:12I don't like to give,
41:14to force it,
41:15go, go, go,
41:15but if it's a choice,
41:17but because I'm,
41:17in,
41:18in this job,
41:20go, go, go,
41:21it's very,
41:21the people are very,
41:22it's very deep,
41:22the people are so many,
41:23for us to fight,
41:24if our heart is not strong enough,
41:26not strong,
41:28we're afraid,
41:28we will fall,
41:29we will fall,
41:30so,
41:30you have to have a really strong heart,
41:31and firm,
41:32and what I said,
41:33but,
41:34a lot of my paths,
41:35wake up,
41:36I can live,
41:36swear to God,
41:37die,
41:37come back to life,
41:38I have,
41:38I feel,
41:40I feel grateful,
41:41and it can influence that,
41:42is,
41:43and I never feel hard,
41:44because that is the journey of life,
41:45the path that God has determined,
41:47and there is a wisdom behind it,
41:49I learned from all,
41:51the experiences I went through,
41:53I think I,
41:54become stronger,
41:55with what I want,
41:56want,
41:56want,
41:56want to face,
41:57meaning,
41:59and the new experiences that I received,
42:00I made it,
42:01as one,
42:02the spirit to,
42:03to,
42:03to continue,
42:04and,
42:05I think it's a very beautiful experience for me,
42:08meaning,
42:08I'm very,
42:09the experience is very valuable,
42:10for me,
42:10until I'm at this stage now,
42:12I think,
42:13it's tiring for me,
42:14and I feel very grateful,
42:15because for me,
42:16not everyone,
42:17who got,
42:17who,
42:17who,
42:18as,
42:18as much as I got,
42:19the place where I'm sitting now,
42:20I think,
42:21not everyone can.
42:22I'm still there,
42:23and I can find more blessings,
42:25with God,
42:25and I can,
42:26make,
42:26pay attention,
42:27together,
42:28in a short while,
42:29with,
42:30a few layers,
42:31that He brought me,
42:31that,
42:32that I can,
42:32I can,
42:33that,
42:34actually,
42:34I can,
42:34like my child,
42:35I think,
42:36I can,
42:37from the beginning,
42:37and I'm very grateful,
42:38with,
42:39the talent that God,
42:40has given to me.
42:42That's the biggest thing, right?
42:43Yes, that's right.
42:43Grateful, actually.
42:45For what God has given to me,
42:46and what I got now,
42:48whatever it is,
42:49it's all from the talent,
42:50that God has given to me.
42:51I'm very grateful,
42:52with everything that God has given.
42:54It's impossible.
42:56Is there a new product,
42:57for those who are interested in songs?
43:00Oh, songs, songs.
43:00I will always release,
43:01I have a new single,
43:02I will probably release more,
43:04my new singles,
43:05that are different.
43:05God willing,
43:06that I have,
43:08have recorded back,
43:09have been recorded,
43:10are also there.
43:11So wait for it,
43:11for me.
43:12I will always have,
43:13a hand for them.
43:14That's what I said earlier,
43:18almost every year,
43:19there will be new songs, right?
43:21Yes, God willing.
43:22God willing.
43:23That's what I promised,
43:24with my fans,
43:25and I,
43:26as a singer,
43:27thank you to my fans,
43:28for all this time,
43:29I feel really,
43:30faithful.
43:31And like,
43:32that's why,
43:33the album,
43:33Aspirasi Hati, came out.
43:35I think I,
43:36the first album,
43:37the album was produced by,
43:39by fans.
43:40That's right.
43:40The full album,
43:41from that,
43:42that they combined,
43:42all that,
43:43Aspirasi Hati,
43:44that's why it's called,
43:44Aspirasi Hati.
43:45Meaning,
43:46I do it,
43:47for my fans,
43:48that,
43:48that's why,
43:49I,
43:49I sing,
43:50for them,
43:51who always support me,
43:52and,
43:52whatever I want to say,
43:54meaning,
43:54until I sing,
43:55for people who like to listen,
43:56to my songs.
43:57Because that's a sign of thank you,
43:59me to them.
44:00Because,
44:01that's like,
44:02Aspirasi Hati,
44:02like them,
44:03and I feel,
44:04I,
44:04have a group of fans,
44:06who are very special,
44:07because I feel,
44:08like them,
44:08from back then,
44:09from school,
44:09supporting me,
44:10and,
44:11that's why,
44:11Aspirasi Hati came out,
44:12and said,
44:13we used to go to school,
44:14so we,
44:16couldn't do anything,
44:17so now,
44:17we all have our own carriages,
44:19that have graphics,
44:20that's why,
44:20suddenly,
44:21from,
44:22cover albums,
44:23from video clips,
44:24all,
44:24are from,
44:25fans,
44:26from songs,
44:27from lyrics,
44:28all of them,
44:29joined because of me,
44:31because of me,
44:31and then,
44:32Aspirasi Hati was born,
44:34when all the songs came,
44:35like,
44:36you guys can correct,
44:36like the songs,
44:37all from ideas,
44:38like me,
44:39even though I feel like,
44:40okay,
44:41I do it for them,
44:42meaning,
44:42for their satisfaction,
44:43because they supported me,
44:44all this time,
44:45from school,
44:46until they have a family,
44:48and then,
44:48they said,
44:48we want to do something,
44:49now,
44:49we already have,
44:50everything,
44:51we already have our own job,
44:52our own career,
44:52so,
44:52we want to do something,
44:54for you,
44:54we don't want to be,
44:55a fan,
44:56that,
44:56just want,
44:57oh,
44:57just want to talk,
44:58want to meet,
44:59want to meet,
44:59want to take pictures,
45:00and then,
45:00then,
45:00want,
45:00want,
45:01want,
45:01want to be close,
45:01with fans,
45:02we don't want to be like that,
45:03we want to continue,
45:04you sing,
45:05something too,
45:06we want to do something,
45:07for you,
45:07and then,
45:07want to continue,
45:08you sing,
45:09for us,
45:10so,
45:10I feel,
45:11I feel so,
45:12like,
45:12touched,
45:13with what,
45:13they come,
45:14bring you,
45:15we make a website,
45:16for you,
45:17we do this,
45:17so,
45:18at first,
45:19I feel like,
45:20oh,
45:20because,
45:20their sincerity,
45:21because,
45:22we feel like,
45:22their sincerity,
45:23so,
45:24oh,
45:24okay,
45:25so,
45:26they do everything,
45:27for,
45:27for the current social media,
45:29for you to do,
45:29all those things,
45:30then,
45:30all,
45:31around,
45:31around this,
45:32the enthusiasm,
45:33there's one more thing,
45:34I haven't done,
45:35what is that?
45:36concert,
45:37concert,
45:37God willing,
45:38actually,
45:38I really want to,
45:39until the Singapore concert,
45:41here,
45:41God willing,
45:42I really want to,
45:43if possible,
45:44if,
45:44I don't say,
45:46I want to stop,
45:47one day,
45:47I will stop too,
45:48singing,
45:48I mean,
45:49but,
45:49before that,
45:50I hope,
45:51I hope,
45:52I can do,
45:53one big concert,
45:55for the fans,
45:56who have been,
45:57especially,
45:57for the fans,
45:58who have always been,
45:59loyal to me,
46:01I think next year,
46:02you will be 40 years old,
46:03God willing,
46:04right?
46:04God willing,
46:04if there is a blessing,
46:05I come,
46:06same age,
46:07later,
46:08same age,
46:08same birthday,
46:09Ramlah Ram's birthday,
46:10God willing,
46:11I pray,
46:12God willing,
46:12I also want the same thing,
46:15sister,
46:15okay,
46:15before we close,
46:18our podcast,
46:19if Ramlah Ram's Eid,
46:21every,
46:22Ramlah Ram's Eid in Malaysia,
46:23there will be Ramlah Ram's songs,
46:24right?
46:25Ballad songs are also there,
46:27and,
46:27for our closure,
46:28I bought a little song,
46:29which I feel,
46:30very difficult,
46:31very difficult?
46:32yes,
46:32all songs are easy,
46:34I feel,
46:34all songs are easy,
46:35I want to say easy,
46:36but,
46:36yes,
46:37which made this sister,
46:39who,
46:40until crying,
46:41what else the composer wants,
46:42I still remember that,
46:45Beranja Sikigal,
46:46Janganlah engkau mendustai,
46:50Segala janji yang kau beri,
46:55that song,
46:55I hope you still remember,
46:56the song is actually,
46:57he,
46:59it's hard to remember,
47:00because he has a little traditional,
47:02and look at him,
47:04but when we look at it,
47:05it's hard to sing that song,
47:06because we don't get,
47:07what the composer wants,
47:09I mean,
47:09what he thinks,
47:10in his brain,
47:13that's one of my favorite songs.
47:16Thank you,
47:16Kak Ramlah,
47:17together with me,
47:18there are actually a lot of lessons,
47:19that we get from this story,
47:20right?
47:21Most importantly,
47:21I think,
47:22one,
47:24how we,
47:26grateful,
47:27right?
47:27and we appreciate,
47:28the good that we have,
47:29from,
47:30from Allah,
47:31and most importantly actually,
47:32is,
47:33the spirit,
47:34right,
47:34Kak?
47:34Yes,
47:35that's right,
47:35like I've heard people say,
47:36if,
47:39we want people to appreciate,
47:41our talent,
47:41what we have,
47:42we have to appreciate first,
47:43what we have,
47:45and our talent,
47:46then people can appreciate.
47:47That's right.
47:49I hope,
47:50Kak,
47:51you continue to succeed,
47:52achieve everything,
47:53that is desired,
47:54the dreams,
47:55and hopefully,
47:56what do people say,
47:57the leaders of the fans,
47:58will also be achieved,
47:59Inshallah,
48:00right?
48:00and,
48:01the name of Allah,
48:02will always,
48:03be with us,
48:04and,
48:05always,
48:06be remembered,
48:07until when,
48:07how the song,
48:10is fresh in our memory,
48:11and also with its name.
48:12Amen,
48:12thank you.
48:13Thank you, Kak,
48:14and we'll see you again,
48:15in Konfession Begelap.