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00:00Have you ever seen your father crying?
00:04Yes, I have.
00:05If we talk about this, I'm afraid people will say that he has no feelings for his parents.
00:10But when his parents passed away, he didn't want to cry.
00:15But when Dato Najib passed away, he could cry because of his friend.
00:24Maybe because Dato Najib is a friend who was with him at his lowest point.
00:31He was with him at his lowest point and he knew how his friend felt at that lowest point.
00:39I think if people talk about things like the Zahid-Hamidi game,
00:45or the Najib game, or the Najib scam,
00:50let us know what really happened.
00:53Because for me, his parents didn't cry, but when Dato Najib was in prison, they cried.
01:00So you can imagine how he felt with his friend.
01:05He was a good friend.
01:06I cried too because I know.
01:14Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
01:16You are back with me, Sudirman Muwattahir.
01:19And this time, it's the latest season of Beli Gelap Confession.
01:21And today, for this episode, I have a very special guest with me.
01:27We can say that she is Sri Kandi in her own right.
01:34And this is her.
01:35We all know her.
01:36I think her Instagram posts are very inspiring to the women out there.
01:43This is her. Let me introduce her.
01:44This is Dato Nurul Hidayah Ahmad Zahid, also known as Nurul Zahid.
01:49How are you, Dato?
01:50Alhamdulillah, I'm good.
01:51How are you?
01:52Alhamdulillah, thank you for inviting me.
01:54You're welcome.
01:55It's not a big deal.
01:56It's a big deal.
01:57But when people invite us, we come because we want to share.
02:00We like to share what people want to know.
02:04Yes, we want to talk to you a lot.
02:08And thank you for being with us at the Beli Gelap Confession.
02:11But Dato, for starters, I was talking to you earlier.
02:16I was interested when you shared that you were involved in the corporate industry.
02:23Can you share a little bit of your background?
02:26Maybe you just want to get to know Dato Nurul Zahid.
02:30Actually, there are a lot of people who don't know me.
02:35But for those who do know me,
02:39my circle of friends who know me know my background.
02:43I got a degree at the University of Putrajaya, Malaysia.
02:49At the back of Malaysia.
02:52A degree in Communication, Corporate Communication.
02:56After that, after I graduated, I continued to work as...
03:00I mean, before that, I was an intern.
03:02Magang, he called it.
03:03Intern, internship at a state-owned company.
03:06Then I was infiltrated into the state-owned company of Berhad
03:09as an executive there.
03:11Before that, I was just an executive assistant.
03:13After that, I was an executive there.
03:15After that, I felt like it was boring.
03:17Instead of an internship there, I wanted to explore other places.
03:21So I explored with Pucat Nyaga, with SEG International Berhad,
03:25with a few public companies as well.
03:28After that, I went back to SPNB.
03:31I was with SPNB for three years.
03:33And I developed my career path at SPNB.
03:38And my last position, I was the vice-president of Public Relations
03:45at Berhad State-Owned Company.
03:47That's a long time, Datuk.
03:48It's been a long time. I worked there for almost 20 years.
03:51I mean, not at SPNB, I mean...
03:53In the job?
03:55In the job as a public relations.
03:58Datuk, the transition from a person...
04:01Yes, working in the corporate field, right?
04:04Then, you jumped into the political field at this time.
04:09And if I introduce you as a son to the number one leader in the party, UMNO,
04:20and also a son to our Prime Minister, Datuk Selma Zahim Amidi,
04:25the pressure, Datuk, as a son of a very well-known leader.
04:31Okay, Alhamdulillah, so far, maybe when we get older,
04:36we don't feel that pressure anymore.
04:39I think, as the saying goes,
04:42Allah can control us.
04:44At first, when I was young, we felt like...
04:49I was like everyone else, I was also social media.
04:53But when people know that we are the son of somebody,
04:58we don't deserve to socialize on social media.
05:02It's like there's a group that doesn't deserve to socialize with others.
05:09I have my own group that I have to be in.
05:12Or...
05:13You can't go to this group.
05:15Then, why is the behavior of a son of a politician like this?
05:18Why is the son of a TPM like this?
05:20They see me as very...
05:23wanting to socialize with others.
05:25Some people like it, some people don't.
05:27Okay, when, especially when...
05:30you're in charge as a minister,
05:32they're like, when you're a son of a minister, you have to be different.
05:36It's like you have to take care of your own class.
05:38For me, class is only temporary and office is only temporary.
05:42I never look...
05:44And I don't really like the protocol.
05:46That's why sometimes when we enter a place,
05:48we feel like the aura is heavy.
05:51The heavy aura is...
05:52Because you carry the name of your father, right?
05:54I don't like the aura of protocol.
05:56I feel like even if I go to Kenduri,
05:58if it involves protocol,
06:00I make sure I go back before everyone else does.
06:02Okay.
06:03Because I don't like things like that.
06:06But as long as you've been working in the corporate field for 20 years before that,
06:14was it easier for you or was there someone who kept you at a distance?
06:19Okay, when I first started working, I didn't have a status.
06:22Okay.
06:23We're young, right?
06:24I got my status when I was 33 years old.
06:30But people still know that you're the daughter of Dato' Syahmat Zahimidi.
06:35That's not a big deal anymore.
06:36Because now, we don't blame people.
06:39People don't know us.
06:39And we have different backgrounds.
06:42Different academic backgrounds.
06:45We're born different.
06:46We're young until we're adults.
06:48So when people give us a perception,
06:50we can't blame people.
06:52So when people know that we're the daughter of someone from school,
06:57it's still okay, you know?
06:58So when we get that status,
06:59it's like that status is attached to us,
07:01it becomes heavier.
07:02A burden.
07:02Yes.
07:03Like, oh, is this the way Dato' should be?
07:05Like that.
07:06Then it's like, oh, the role of a son of a minister should be like this.
07:08Oh, when you're Dato', the role has to be different.
07:11For me, I always carry myself as comfortable as I am.
07:16If I want to go eat somewhere or something,
07:19I just carry myself with what I feel comfortable with
07:22and the things that we feel it's not wrong to do.
07:25So it's like other people too, actually.
07:27And there are times when you have to be careful on social media too, Dato'.
07:31If it's like before, when I was young, I wasn't careful.
07:33I just stepped on it.
07:35So people who know me when I was young,
07:38so they know that when I'm old,
07:41I just turned 46.
07:43So when we're old, we know
07:45that there are things that we need to talk about,
07:47there are things that we need to keep.
07:49And sometimes, even the things that we want to say,
07:52we think, is it worth it to say those things?
07:54If we say those things, it hurts people's feelings
07:57and we say those things, it makes people misunderstand.
08:01And they have their own mindset,
08:04let it be like that.
08:06People will change themselves
08:08or let the situation change their thinking.
08:12Dato', your father's involvement in our country's politics
08:15did it affect your career as a politician?
08:27Okay, when I started working, it didn't affect me much
08:33because we're students, right?
08:34So I went to work, go through interviews and so on.
08:37But as time went by, our elders got to know us better
08:42and our responsibilities got bigger.
08:45That made a little bit of an impact on me.
08:50Because people know how and the quality of my father's work.
08:56And people must expect the same quality of work
09:00or even better, right?
09:04So that's a little bit of an implication for me
09:08and I try to prove to people actually.
09:13I already proved to myself
09:14because when we're in an organization,
09:18it doesn't matter what organization we are in,
09:20whether it's a corporate or political organization,
09:25it's the same.
09:26We have to prove our best to people.
09:29So we know where we are
09:30because we want to venture into wherever we want to live.
09:36But yes, answering your question
09:39does have an impact on me.
09:42But I think it's a challenge for me to become better
09:47and learn better things.
09:48It means I read more.
09:51Not reading on Facebook,
09:52I mean, we read more books.
09:55We do more research on our own, right?
09:59So when we talk,
10:00the things we say have a basis.
10:02In the past, we were just talking.
10:04We were just chit-chatting.
10:06If we felt like we didn't like something, we would say it.
10:07But now, as I said, we're more careful.
10:12Like in the past,
10:13sometimes it's not possible.
10:16Your dad would call you, right?
10:18Nurul, you can't be like this.
10:20You have to take care of your parents.
10:23It's always like that, not just my dad, but my mom too.
10:26But I think everyone is young.
10:29The people in front of us are also young.
10:31We want to explore things in our own way.
10:34Not the way we're dictated by someone else.
10:37Even our parents.
10:38But we know that what we're doing,
10:41don't embarrass them.
10:43Don't do things that bring great harm.
10:46So we feel like we manage wisely.
10:54We know that before this,
10:57you were also rejected when you posted something,
11:01made a statement, got bashed, etc.
11:05Did you feel that it would have a negative impact on your dad's side?
11:15Hmm...
11:16Actually, when you become someone else's daughter-in-law,
11:19the good things you do will have an impact.
11:21The bad things will have a very big impact.
11:25But we have to be careful.
11:27We have to see how big the impact is.
11:32That's why I said that in the past,
11:34if there's something I'm not satisfied with, I'll just write about it.
11:39But now, I'm starting to...
11:41I think in the past 8 years,
11:45or 10, 9, 10, 8 years,
11:50I've been writing a lot to share what I've been through.
11:55So that...
11:57Sometimes, people want to read.
12:00Sometimes, there are people who are like,
12:02It's too long to write, right?
12:04So, for me, whoever wants to receive that sharing,
12:08receive it with an open heart.
12:09If you don't like it, I can't do anything about it.
12:11Because we don't want to write it for people who like us.
12:14We want to write it for us to share with people
12:16what we've been through with our opinions.
12:20I mean, from our experience.
12:22Not opinions from others or hearsay.
12:26Sometimes, people don't know that the things we share
12:30are the things we've been through.
12:31And if possible, we don't want people to go through what we've been through.
12:34Especially young people.
12:35But surprisingly, Alhamdulillah,
12:37every time I meet my sisters or aunts when I go out,
12:41they say, I like to read your captions.
12:44I mean, for me, there are also people who like to read my captions.
12:49Even though it's long.
12:51I also have social media like Facebook.
12:55I have TikTok.
12:56It's just that for me, I like things that I write.
12:59It's like, the picture speaks for itself, right?
13:08But for me, when we add the captions,
13:11it has a greater impact on what we try to share in our posting.
13:17Do you read the comments, Datuk?
13:18I read them.
13:19I read the comments and I delete and block them.
13:24I do it all by myself.
13:25I don't have anyone to manage it.
13:29Do you have a fake account?
13:30To reply to negative comments?
13:33I don't have time to have a fake account.
13:35I don't even have a fake account.
13:38Sometimes when I don't post for 2-3 days,
13:42people ask.
13:43Sometimes I feel lazy.
13:45I used to be diligent.
13:46Now, if I feel like I want to post, I post.
13:48If I don't feel like I want to post,
13:49there are a lot of pictures.
13:52You just want to post one or the other.
13:54You want to go to the captions.
13:56I go to the captions.
13:58Sometimes, the captions don't have anything to do with the picture.
14:01Sometimes, when I have an idea in my mind,
14:03I write what I want to write.
14:05Then, when there's a picture that I think has something to do with the caption I wrote,
14:10I post it with the caption.
14:13Datuk, when we talk about you,
14:18as a mother at the same time,
14:20we know that before this, you lost your husband for your first marriage.
14:26How was that moment, Datuk,
14:28when you were able to share it with other children who wanted to grow up?
14:32Okay.
14:33Alhamdulillah, I didn't become a Balu for a long time.
14:38Within a year,
14:39because after my husband passed away,
14:43after being in prison for 4 months and 10 days,
14:46my children were close to my late husband.
14:50My late husband took care of my children more than me.
14:53Because I was busy working.
14:55My husband was also working, but he had his own business.
14:58He had time.
14:59And he could take his children to the office because he was a business owner.
15:03So, my children were affected if they didn't go out on weekends.
15:09So, my child, Sofia, was 8 years old at that time.
15:15She was 8 years old at that time.
15:17She used to say, now she is 15 years old,
15:21whenever you are ready, can we have a new papa?
15:25She said that.
15:26Then I said, why do you want a new papa?
15:29I can take care of you, I can be your papa, I can be your mother.
15:33Then she said, no.
15:34In a family, there must be a man.
15:38A man called father, a father figure to take care of us, to take care of you.
15:42You cannot take care of yourself.
15:44She said that.
15:44She said that.
15:46She said that.
15:47So, it was like a mind opening for me too.
15:50It's not that we don't have friends, everyone approaches us.
15:53But for me, I don't want to get into a relationship too early.
15:58But, I don't know, this thing is fated, right?
16:01It's so mystery.
16:02Then I met my husband now, on the basis of work.
16:09Then he approached me and Alhamdulillah, two months later we got married.
16:12We didn't know each other for a long time.
16:14Yes.
16:15Like that.
16:16The children, when Dato told you that he wanted to get married,
16:20even though we were still 8 years old.
16:22I didn't tell him that I wanted to get married.
16:23Like, he knew, I introduced them, I mean I introduced them to their brother and sister.
16:32The children of my husband, then I introduced them to my husband's wife at that time.
16:38And Alhamdulillah, they were happy and they didn't really care.
16:42Actually, they just want a family.
16:44They just want a father figure.
16:46And Alhamdulillah, I think I got married because my children are happy with my husband now.
16:53With the family that we have now.
16:55Because when we get married, we don't just get married with one man.
16:58We have to get married with one family.
17:01His mother, his siblings, if he has a wife, with his wife.
17:05If he has children, with his children.
17:08So, Alhamdulillah, it took me a very smooth journey when I was about to enter the next phase of my marriage.
17:17And of course, when you decided to get married for the second time at that time,
17:23your husband knew, I mean Dato, with the children, right?
17:30Of course, he knew.
17:32His wife is my follower.
17:34Oh, okay.
17:35His wife is my follower.
17:37Actually, when we got to know each other, he didn't even know.
17:41He knew that he had heard my name but he didn't know how I was.
17:44So, what he did, he Googled me.
17:46He asked his staff to Google me, to print out what was related to me.
17:50So, at that time, what he could print out was negative things.
17:56Okay.
17:57I'm a person who is fierce.
18:00Negative things.
18:02Not what he knows about me now.
18:06So, but Alhamdulillah, he, I see, what you see and what everyone sees now is the result of his education.
18:19Because a wife is the reflection of a husband.
18:21A good wife is a good reflection of a husband.
18:24It's the same for children.
18:25Children are the reflection of their parents.
18:27They are well-educated.
18:28We are well-educated.
18:29We are well-educated by our parents.
18:31So, that's how it is actually.
18:34Dato, he read quite a lot about negative things about you, right?
18:37So, did he ask himself or did he dare to ask?
18:40No, no, no, he didn't ask himself.
18:42He, well, we went out to eat and then I joined him for his company.
18:50He likes hiking.
18:51So, he brought me to the national park.
18:57So, we went to the national park.
18:58So, he and his group, his office, me and my sister went alone.
19:04So, when, we got closer and he actually knew me.
19:09So, he thought I was like this, but actually I was like this.
19:13He thought I was like this, like this.
19:15Then, when we went out to the forest, he asked me, he said,
19:19we should get married.
19:21Then, I said, are you crazy? You are my husband.
19:24You said that, right?
19:25Do you want my mother to kill me?
19:27Do you want everyone to hate me?
19:29I never think further than that.
19:32At that time, I didn't feel that he liked me at all.
19:37Do you understand?
19:38At that time, I also had boyfriends.
19:41We got to know a few people, right?
19:44But, we didn't think to go early, to end the marriage,
19:49to step into another phase of marriage.
19:52Once again.
19:53Yes, once again.
19:55Early, right?
19:56We have to start again, right?
19:58But, Alhamdulillah, he convinced me.
20:01At that time, his wife's elder sister also convinced me.
20:09For me to go together with them in the phase of marriage.
20:15Datuk, sorry if I want to ask.
20:17When your husband proposed to you,
20:23and you knew that he already had his first wife,
20:28and at the end, you agreed,
20:30did you think, if I get married, I will definitely get it.
20:35Because the title of second wife is a bit sensitive for us, Datuk.
20:42That's it.
20:44Because I also have a lot of friends who became second wives.
20:47Then, there are those who are unjust.
20:50The second wife who wants to expose more than the first wife.
20:55So, I just make a promise to myself.
20:58If I get married to him,
21:00I want to prove that being a second wife is not that hard.
21:06So, actually, being a second wife,
21:10monogamous marriage, polygamous marriage,
21:13actually, you have to face the same person.
21:16That's right.
21:17You have to face a man.
21:19You have to face his family.
21:24It's the same.
21:27Monogamous or polygamous.
21:29Actually, the marriage is about you and your partner,
21:33and what you want in the marriage.
21:35How do you bring the marriage?
21:37If your intention is to make yourself a good person,
21:46you become a good person.
21:48If you make the marriage, you suffer,
21:50you become a bad person.
21:52Or vice versa.
21:53There are many, right?
21:54That's right.
21:55So, I promise myself,
21:57I want to prove to myself that being a second wife is not that hard.
22:07It's hard, but we just portray positive things.
22:12Alhamdulillah, for my three years of marriage as a second wife,
22:19before my wife passed away,
22:21in my third year of marriage, my wife passed away.
22:25Alhamdulillah, we have a very smooth journey.
22:28If people ask,
22:30there are many women who are not ashamed to offer to be my second wife.
22:37Ask me, not my husband.
22:39Ask Dato' yourself.
22:41So, let me put it this way.
22:43If my husband wants to be with you, it's okay.
22:46If you really want to be with him,
22:49it's okay.
22:50But for me,
22:51when we have gone through that,
22:53and as we get older,
22:55we don't have the energy to fight our feelings,
23:02to take care of our feelings,
23:04we don't have the energy to calm down.
23:06That's right.
23:07We don't have the energy to be emotional.
23:09It's like, I don't want to do anything with you,
23:11you don't want to do anything with me.
23:13But if my husband wants to be with someone else,
23:15just go with that person.
23:17Even to make peace.
23:18Until that stage, Dato' thinks, okay.
23:20When we have...
23:21I don't know about other people,
23:22but for me,
23:23when I reach an age where I feel like,
23:25I want to find my peace,
23:27not to fight with other people,
23:29not to find problems with other people.
23:31If people want to find problems with me,
23:32that's their problem.
23:34For me,
23:35I will just walk and back off from the problem.
23:39Because I don't want to anymore.
23:41Before we go there, Dato',
23:43I want to say something.
23:45When you're polygamous,
23:47people think,
23:48like you said,
23:49people think it's hard.
23:51The second wife might be dominant,
23:54because she wants to feel the love from her husband.
23:58And the first wife might think,
24:00oh, I can't,
24:01I'm the first,
24:02you're the second,
24:03I can't do more, and so on.
24:04How is it, Dato',
24:05if you can share the sweet moment at that time?
24:09Okay, Alhamdulillah.
24:11My husband is not like that.
24:12Okay.
24:13If I have a problem with my husband,
24:15my husband and wife will fight, right?
24:17He's the first person I go to,
24:19and he said this,
24:20he said,
24:21don't fight for too long,
24:23because this is the best husband that we have.
24:26Okay.
24:27He said,
24:28his confidence in his husband is 200%.
24:31More?
24:32More.
24:33He said to me,
24:36trust me,
24:37this is the best man that we have.
24:40So trust him,
24:41trust his guide,
24:42trust everything that he wants to bring to this family.
24:46And Alhamdulillah,
24:48we don't fight,
24:50we don't argue,
24:52we even have one WhatsApp group,
24:54that me and my sister-in-law,
24:58we take turns to hit our husband sometimes.
25:01Agreed?
25:02Agreed.
25:03Alhamdulillah,
25:04we share the same interest,
25:06we like to sing,
25:08we like to go out to eat,
25:11so,
25:12there's nothing that,
25:15I mean,
25:16me and my sister-in-law have a lot of similarities.
25:19A lot of time together.
25:20A lot of time together,
25:21and we also,
25:22Alhamdulillah,
25:23we go on vacation together.
25:24We don't have like half of us,
25:25go on vacation,
25:26this family goes first,
25:28no,
25:29we take all the kids,
25:30go on vacation together.
25:31Like, yeah.
25:32One family.
25:33One family.
25:34I really miss that moment.
25:35We go for Hajj together,
25:36Alhamdulillah.
25:37The thing that I think,
25:40actually,
25:41actually,
25:42in Malaysia,
25:43there are only happy couples,
25:44the best ones.
25:45But they don't want to break up,
25:46they don't want to share,
25:47because they feel like,
25:48if they share,
25:49they will be hated.
25:50True.
25:51So,
25:52not everyone can stand being hated like me.
25:54So,
25:55I choose to share because
25:56I want to give benefits to others.
25:57It's not that I want to encourage polygamy.
25:59No.
26:00Actually,
26:01like I said,
26:02back to your first question
26:03about corporate organisation,
26:05you're in a marriage,
26:07you're in an organisation,
26:09you're in politics.
26:10It's all about sharing.
26:11Yes.
26:12So,
26:13for me,
26:15our attitude,
26:16our personality,
26:18how we want to control things,
26:20how we want to make things good,
26:22it's all in ourself.
26:25So, when our heart can accept,
26:28we have a big heart to share,
26:31to do it together with others,
26:35I think,
26:36in any situation,
26:38we will succeed.
26:39God willing.
26:40True.
26:41For example,
26:42in politics,
26:43we're like BN,
26:44Barisan Nasional now.
26:45We share BN with other party components.
26:48Our attitude is different.
26:49True.
26:50Like in Pakatan Harapan,
26:52we have Barisan Nasional,
26:53we have PKR,
26:54we have Aman.
26:55So,
26:56it's all about sharing.
26:57Yes.
26:58So,
26:59it's all about
27:00how you want to bring yourself
27:01as an individual
27:02to be part of this sharing.
27:04True.
27:05It's just not in marriage.
27:07It's the same in an organization.
27:09It's different.
27:10Dato,
27:11before your late sister passed away,
27:13she was your first wife,
27:15was there a message
27:17that you left for her?
27:19Yes.
27:20Her message was for me to take care of her children.
27:23Okay.
27:24Because
27:25she had three children with her husband.
27:29So,
27:30Alhamdulillah,
27:32maybe the wisdom behind it,
27:33maybe Allah moved her heart
27:35to allow her husband to marry me
27:39and to encourage me to marry her husband
27:41at that time.
27:43Maybe Allah moved this.
27:45Because this is Allah's plan.
27:48One year after Allah passed away,
27:52her second child got married.
27:54I took care of everything.
27:55I became the mother.
27:57I became the mother who took care of the children.
28:00So,
28:01recently,
28:02I accepted my second son-in-law.
28:03One out of eleven.
28:04One out of eleven.
28:05Her second son-in-law is the only one who is still single.
28:06So,
28:07she is the only one who is still single.
28:08The only one who is still single.
28:09The only one who is still single.
28:10Akmal.
28:11So,
28:12I took the responsibility
28:13and I took the trust
28:14of what
28:15my late sister had told me
28:17to take care of her children.
28:19She didn't say to take care of her husband.
28:20She took the trust of her children.
28:21Children.
28:22Because she was very attached to her children.
28:24Okay.
28:25For her,
28:26she had three children.
28:28It's everything.
28:29And she didn't want her children to lose their motherly love.
28:32But,
28:33Alhamdulillah,
28:34I wasn't alone
28:35with my children.
28:36My late son-in-law,
28:37me too.
28:38With my mother,
28:39my father,
28:40and my late sister,
28:41I was close with them too.
28:42Because my sister is the only girl in the family.
28:44Okay.
28:45The only girl in the family.
28:46So,
28:47I,
28:49when I had the time,
28:50I had the opportunity,
28:51I went to see
28:52my mother and father.
28:53My late father.
28:54And her siblings too.
28:55I also
28:56knew them
28:57and was with her siblings too.
28:59It's a big responsibility, Dato'.
29:01It's big.
29:02I want to say,
29:05we have to be good to everyone.
29:08Because,
29:09my principle is,
29:12one day,
29:13we'll say we don't exist.
29:14So,
29:15I want
29:16the goodness I do
29:18to reach my children.
29:19Okay.
29:20Sometimes,
29:21when we do bad things to people,
29:22the bad things
29:23don't reach us.
29:24The bad things
29:25reach our children.
29:26The bad things
29:27impact us.
29:28It impacts
29:29the ordinary people.
29:31It's okay.
29:32It's like our children.
29:33True.
29:34Our children
29:35are fragile.
29:36Especially,
29:37we know that
29:38the next generation
29:39will face
29:40bigger challenges.
29:41So,
29:42we
29:43always want to
29:44do good things
29:45not for ourselves.
29:46We always say,
29:47Ya Allah,
29:48if I do good things,
29:49I won't get
29:50the reward
29:51I want now.
29:52I want the goodness
29:53my children will get
29:54when I'm gone.
29:55So,
29:56Allah makes
29:57their lives easier.
29:58If they're in trouble,
29:59people will come
30:00and give
30:01help,
30:02advice,
30:03take care of them.
30:04That's what I want.
30:06Dato,
30:07through
30:08FASA,
30:09I assume,
30:10from
30:11your own life,
30:13not only in
30:14your family,
30:15personal life,
30:16political arena,
30:18and so on,
30:20what is the lowest point
30:21that you have gone through
30:23that gave you
30:24the biggest
30:25lesson in your life?
30:28The lowest point
30:29is actually a lot.
30:31When you're 20,
30:32the lowest point
30:33is different.
30:34When you're 30,
30:35the lowest point
30:36is different.
30:37When you're 40,
30:38the lowest point
30:39is different.
30:40But,
30:41to sum up
30:42all the lowest points,
30:43the lowest point
30:44is when
30:45my husband died.
30:46All of a sudden.
30:48Because
30:49at that time,
30:52when we were
30:53about to enter
30:549 years of marriage,
30:55we were starting
30:56to mature
30:57in our relationship.
30:58We were starting
30:59to feel like,
31:00oh,
31:01this is what
31:02a wife should be like.
31:03This is what
31:04a husband should be like.
31:05So,
31:06we were starting
31:07to mature
31:08in our relationship.
31:09At first,
31:10when we got married,
31:11we argued,
31:12we wanted to get to know each other.
31:13Just to
31:14get into
31:15this marriage,
31:16it took us
31:17years to
31:18understand
31:19our partner.
31:20So,
31:21when we got
31:22into
31:23our 9th year
31:24of marriage,
31:25I felt like,
31:26oh,
31:27this is what
31:28a wife should be like.
31:29All of a sudden,
31:30when we felt
31:31like that,
31:32Allah pulled us.
31:33All of a sudden,
31:34we went without
31:35any instructions.
31:36If we
31:37took care of him
31:38when he was sick,
31:39or when he was sick,
31:40we were not
31:41that patient.
31:42We had that moment.
31:43My lowest point
31:44was that
31:45he was not there.
31:46When he was not there,
31:47my parents
31:48were not there
31:49in Malaysia.
31:50My parents
31:51were in Japan.
31:52They had
31:53work.
31:54They had an official
31:55visit in Japan.
31:56So,
31:57I had to
31:58take care
31:59of everything
32:00on my own.
32:01And I had
32:02to manage
32:03his son.
32:04I had
32:05a stepson
32:06who was
32:07married.
32:08So,
32:09I had to
32:10manage
32:11his son
32:12from Singapore.
32:13I had to
32:14manage his
32:15mother
32:16from
32:17Perak.
32:18So,
32:19I had to
32:20manage
32:21everything
32:22to tell
32:23all of
32:24his friends.
32:25We should
32:26live a life
32:27more than
32:28die.
32:29We can
32:30manage
32:31to live a life
32:32like
32:33we can
32:34still
32:35comfort
32:36our hearts.
32:37We can
32:38see him
32:39again.
32:40We
32:41can be
32:42together
32:43like
32:44a co-parent.
32:45But,
32:46all of a sudden,
32:47he was not
32:48there.
32:49I felt
32:50like
32:51when I
32:52was waiting
32:53to take
32:54But after he passed away, I felt like it was my job. I wanted to wake up, I wanted to sleep, wake up, pray, sleep again, wake up, pray, that's it.
33:01You didn't want to do anything?
33:02I didn't want to. I felt like I was dreaming.
33:04But people didn't see that. People didn't know.
33:07And I didn't show that to my parents.
33:09I didn't show it to my children.
33:10Especially my children.
33:11We don't want to show that we are at the lowest point.
33:13Sad?
33:14And we don't want to show it to our parents that we are at the lowest point.
33:17It's just that...
33:19I feel like if I didn't go through something like that, I wouldn't be strong.
33:22Allah knows what will happen to us in the future.
33:26So, when He wants to prepare us for the future, He gives us all kinds of things.
33:30So, for me, when I meet someone who has a problem, I tell them,
33:34it's okay. This problem will make you strong tomorrow.
33:38Sometimes we don't know what we're going to face.
33:41For example, someone who is in love.
33:43They can't get a job. They have to quit their job.
33:45That thing will make us strong later on.
33:49And if we're not ashamed, we can share it with people like me.
33:52I like to share it with people how to be strong.
33:54It's not because we're strong that we become strong.
33:56It's because we're Zahid Hamidi's children.
33:58We're strong not because our father has a cable.
34:02No. We're strong because we've been through things like that.
34:05Actually, we don't have to be anyone's children.
34:08But if you're willing, if you're strong,
34:11if you can move on from what you've been through at your lowest point,
34:17you can be the best person, the best human being,
34:20the best servant of Allah on this earth.
34:23What made you realize that you can't do this?
34:28That you have to get up?
34:31It's because of my children.
34:32It's because I have children.
34:34And I think the test that Allah gave me at that time
34:40made me think about what else I want to do after this.
34:43Where else do I want to go after this?
34:47I told Allah, it's okay.
34:50I'm willing to accept Allah.
34:52Just let me go.
34:54Just show me the best path that you have created for me.
34:58So, that was my turning point for me to get closer to Allah.
35:07Because before that, I was busy.
35:11When you know that you're doing PR,
35:14you don't have time to sit and pray for a long time,
35:19or to wake up for tahajjud prayer.
35:21It's all about the world.
35:23It's all about yourself.
35:24It's all about your organization.
35:26And it's all about you wanting to prove yourself to others.
35:29So, we forget that Allah is actually speaking to us.
35:35Allah gives us a message every day without us realizing it.
35:38Messages are for us to know that,
35:41look, you've gone too far.
35:44You're like this. Come, come back to me.
35:49Dato, inspiring people is definitely not easy.
35:55Because people see our journey.
35:57Maybe, like you said, people don't see the sadness that you've been through.
36:04But what is one thing that you've been holding on to from the past until now?
36:08So that people, especially women, who were in the same situation as you before,
36:15so that you can be strong.
36:18Don't give up.
36:20Don't make the status of a woman, or a single mother,
36:23as an obstacle for you to move forward.
36:27Okay.
36:28A lot of single mothers go through different processes to become a single mother.
36:35Some are married. Some are beaten by their husbands.
36:38Recently, Zanita left her marriage because she couldn't stand being beaten.
36:44She couldn't stand the mental torture.
36:48So, for me, the women out there, believe me.
36:53There are still good men out there.
36:55But we have to ask Allah.
36:58Allah knows what we need.
37:03Allah knows what we need.
37:05We don't need just one thing.
37:07Sometimes, these women have an imagination.
37:11They want a man who is like K-pop.
37:14A man who is good at singing.
37:16A man who is good at playing the guitar.
37:17A romantic man.
37:19Actually, that is just an imagination.
37:23It's a fairy tale.
37:25From the ancient times.
37:27Okay.
37:28For us to achieve that,
37:31an ideal marriage,
37:36not perfect, but ideal.
37:38We have to work it out.
37:40We have to work it out.
37:42Communication is so important.
37:45So, for the women who are at their lowest point now,
37:48beaten by their husbands,
37:49it's okay.
37:50Find a new husband.
37:53Actually, you have to think positively.
37:57There are men who don't leave their marriage because of their wives.
38:01Some of my friends are mentally tortured and beaten by their wives.
38:05I told him, it's okay. Just find a new wife.
38:08Don't put yourself in a negative surrounding.
38:13Then, you live in a situation where you have to think positively.
38:16It's hard.
38:17You only live for a short period of time.
38:18It won't last long.
38:21You only live for a short period of time.
38:23You spend the rest of your life in Padamasa.
38:26In Herat.
38:27So, just live the best out of you.
38:30Why do you have to think negatively?
38:33What should I do?
38:35What if I get divorced?
38:37People will say that I'm a bad woman.
38:39Actually, believe me or not,
38:42there are bad women in marriages.
38:45Not just bad men.
38:46I've encountered this a lot.
38:48Women who cheat on their husbands.
38:52But, we have to respect them as well.
38:55Because they don't share what's happening to them.
38:57Women are the ones who share.
38:59Right?
39:00Why don't we take this as we complement each other?
39:03Men and women.
39:04You work out on your marriage.
39:06You become an ideal couple.
39:07For example, me and my husband.
39:09Sometimes, I want to show off.
39:11He's not romantic.
39:12He's romantic.
39:13He wants a public display of affection.
39:21PDE.
39:22He wants to show off that he's his wife.
39:26I love that.
39:27I like that.
39:28But, sometimes, we're weak.
39:31But, he likes it.
39:32But, it's okay.
39:33Right?
39:34But, praise be to Allah.
39:35Maybe it's because of this.
39:36Maybe it's because...
39:37As a wife, as a woman,
39:39we want to show that he's our king.
39:42So, he appreciates us.
39:43That's how it is.
39:44Men only have one way of appreciating.
39:47Right?
39:48If he wants to give you flowers, just give him flowers.
39:49If he wants to hug you, just hug you.
39:51But, my husband doesn't give me flowers.
39:53So, he kisses and hugs me in front of everyone.
39:55That's how it is.
39:57So, we have to appreciate the way he loves us.
40:00We can't expect him to be romantic.
40:03Like, how I wish you could play the guitar.
40:05So, if you get a thin man as your husband,
40:07how I wish your body was as big as Zul Arifin.
40:10We can't do that.
40:12We have to appreciate our partner as they are.
40:15And, we have to compliment each other.
40:17If one person is noisy,
40:19the other person doesn't have to be noisy.
40:22I learnt this through the marriage.
40:25So, if my husband is noisy,
40:27he has his down time as well.
40:30He has the time to melt down.
40:33But, he doesn't melt down like a crazy person.
40:35But, when he wants to express his feelings,
40:37we listen to him.
40:38When he's angry, we listen to him.
40:40We don't have to add to his anger.
40:42Sometimes, we don't have to be angry.
40:44We don't have to be angry.
40:45It's a small thing.
40:46We can't say that.
40:47Let him express his feelings.
40:48It's the same with my husband.
40:50He respects me when I'm angry.
40:52He lets me say what I want to say.
40:54Then, he says what he wants to say.
40:56So, I love this kind of marriage.
40:59Alhamdulillah.
41:00Maybe, he's been through...
41:02It's the same thing.
41:03He's been through marriage.
41:04I've been through marriage.
41:05So, it's not like that.
41:06We know what we want.
41:08So, we complement each other.
41:10When I'm bad,
41:12he swipes away my bad side.
41:16When he's bad,
41:17I swipe away his bad side.
41:18It's normal.
41:19Husband and wife will fight.
41:20But, I feel like...
41:21We don't go perfect.
41:24We go ideal.
41:25Ideal way.
41:26In the end, you have to manage, right?
41:29I have to manage.
41:31I want to go back to when you shared...
41:35...that you're willing to offer yourself...
41:37...to be a second wife and so on.
41:40Does your husband know about that?
41:41He knows.
41:42He's just joking.
41:44He said,
41:45I've been through a marriage that...
41:48I mean, he feels polygamy.
41:50But, he feels monogamy
41:52by getting a wife like this.
41:54It's enough.
41:58Maybe, if I'm not healthy,
42:00or if I'm lacking as a wife,
42:05it's okay.
42:08We know what our husband needs.
42:11But, as women, we can't be selfish.
42:14We can't be selfish.
42:16We have to get rid of our ego to be the best.
42:19People say,
42:20when people...
42:21I don't know if they'll agree or not.
42:23When people say self-love.
42:25But, when we're in a marriage or in a relationship,
42:28we're not self-love anymore.
42:30It's all about people.
42:32True.
42:33If I'm so self-love,
42:35during the polygamy,
42:37You belong to someone.
42:38Yes.
42:39I think,
42:41there won't be...
42:43Harmony.
42:44Harmony for 3 years.
42:46If I'm so self-love.
42:48Actually,
42:49when we're self-love,
42:51it means when we're sick, we take medicine.
42:53When we're heartbroken,
42:55we treat ourselves.
42:57We treat everything by ourselves.
42:59We don't control it.
43:01Yes.
43:02We treat it, not control it.
43:03It means,
43:04if we're self-love,
43:05we can't control people.
43:06They have to self-love themselves too.
43:08So, for me,
43:09it takes...
43:12communication,
43:13it takes effort,
43:14it takes everything
43:15to be in an ideal relationship.
43:18Like that.
43:19So, for those who are not married yet,
43:21you have to listen.
43:22Actually,
43:23you're not married to settle your problem.
43:26You're married because you want to
43:28halal your life
43:30between a man and a woman.
43:32It's not that.
43:33It's like much more beyond that.
43:35Like I have a friend,
43:37one of the producer in Sydney,
43:40if you look at his parents,
43:42my friend,
43:43they've been married for like
43:4520 over years.
43:47So, they're still loving each other.
43:50They're still hugging each other.
43:51They're like,
43:52I'm having a headache.
43:53Her husband comes and massages her head.
43:55It's like,
43:56we want that kind of relationship.
43:59We don't know if they're fighting in the back or what.
44:01But,
44:02they portray a very positive marriage.
44:05It's true.
44:06And I feel like,
44:09sometimes men don't want to show their affection
44:13to their wives.
44:14Because sometimes,
44:16they want to show it,
44:17but they won't say it.
44:19And when they're sad,
44:20the first thing you do is hug them.
44:22Don't say anything to them.
44:23Don't say anything to them.
44:24Just say,
44:25no.
44:26If you hug them,
44:27everything will be over.
44:29Just ignore them.
44:30Ignore them.
44:31That's what women are like.
44:33Hug them,
44:34and then,
44:35if you want to get married,
44:36you don't have to hug them.
44:37You have to listen.
44:39Right?
44:40Dato,
44:41in this day and age,
44:42in this life,
44:44through marriage,
44:46the marriage phase,
44:48does Abbas still get to know Dato?
44:51Or does Dato still share it with his parents?
44:53I always share everything with my mom and my dad.
44:57We don't share it because of arguments.
45:00Sometimes, even if we have an argument,
45:01we still want to look at them.
45:03Because they want to eat the salt first.
45:05For me,
45:06my life is more on my family.
45:11If we have a problem,
45:12we can talk to our family.
45:13We don't want them to solve it.
45:17At least we want to know their opinion.
45:19For me,
45:20it's the best person you can go to
45:22if you have a problem.
45:24Even though we know that Abbas is a busy person?
45:27He will attend.
45:28He will attend to you.
45:30He will attend to you.
45:31Even if he gives advice,
45:32it's not for us.
45:35Our advice is for the husband.
45:37Because he knows that
45:38the husband's role is very big.
45:39The husband's responsibility is very big.
45:41And,
45:42Abbas is a man
45:43who makes us appreciate him more.
45:46He makes us learn
45:49to appreciate the husband.
45:51What is the side of Dato' Sri
45:54that you can share?
45:56He is a very family man type.
45:58No matter how tired he is,
46:00we know that he has a lot of programs.
46:01Sometimes,
46:02on weekends,
46:03he has 3-4 programs.
46:05Sometimes, he has 5 programs
46:06that he has to attend.
46:07But, when he comes home,
46:08do you want to go to dinner?
46:10We know that he is tired.
46:11He can't even open his eyes.
46:14But, he still wants to attend to his family.
46:16He wants to have family time.
46:17Sometimes,
46:18I bought a massage chair
46:20for their anniversary last year.
46:24So, I know that
46:25when you are old,
46:27you want to relax.
46:28You don't want to call someone a massage chair.
46:30So, I bought a massage chair.
46:32He sat down.
46:34He talked to us
46:352-3 times.
46:37Then, he fell asleep.
46:39We know that he is very tired.
46:41But,
46:42he is very attentive.
46:44Sometimes,
46:46he didn't answer our messages.
46:47We called his bodyguard
46:48and asked him where he was.
46:49He said that he was at home.
46:50We went to see him.
46:51Even if he wasn't at home,
46:52we felt that it was an emergency to see him.
46:54It wasn't an emergency.
46:55We wanted to update him.
46:57At midnight,
46:58he would watch Nightline.
46:59He would watch Nightline.
47:00He would watch the news.
47:02So, he would watch it again and again.
47:06But, at midnight,
47:07he would watch Nightline.
47:08When he watched Nightline,
47:09we knew that
47:10he was at home.
47:12So, we went to see him at home.
47:14Now,
47:16there is Gagabaganza.
47:21He loved Gagabaganza since
47:23the first season.
47:25So, on Sunday,
47:26I knew that when Gagabaganza was aired,
47:28I would meet him at home.
47:29We would watch Gagabaganza.
47:30That was when he was at home.
47:31That was when he was at home.
47:33There is one thing that
47:35you learned from Dato Sri.
47:37What is it, Dato?
47:39One, you have to listen.
47:45Two, be patient.
47:47Listen to understand.
47:52Not listen to solve.
47:54Sometimes, when people listen,
47:56they want to solve it right away.
47:58So, we listen and understand.
47:59When I talked to him,
48:02he didn't solve it.
48:03But, he listened.
48:04Then, he understood.
48:05Then, he gave options 1, 2, 3.
48:08So, we make our own decisions.
48:10And then, he said,
48:13we have to be patient.
48:15So, I learned a lot from him.
48:18Be patient and listen.
48:20Have you ever seen your father
48:22throw eye drops?
48:24Throw eye drops,
48:26throw eye drops.
48:28Yes, I have.
48:33If we talk about this,
48:34people might say,
48:36he doesn't have any feelings towards his parents.
48:38But, when his parents passed away,
48:40he didn't want to throw eye drops.
48:45We don't know when he prayed
48:47or when he cried
48:49on his tombstone.
48:51But, when Dato Najib passed away,
48:56he can cry because of his friend.
49:00Maybe because Dato Najib
49:03is a friend
49:06who was with him at his lowest point.
49:09He was with him at his lowest point.
49:12Then, he knew
49:14how his friend felt at that lowest point.
49:18So, yes.
49:19If we talk about Dato Najib,
49:21I also talk about Dato Najib.
49:23But, we don't want to share it with others.
49:25I think, if people can talk about
49:28things like
49:30Zahid Hamidi's game
49:33or Najib's game
49:35or Najib's scam
49:37that he didn't want to share,
49:38let us know
49:40what really happened.
49:42Because, for me,
49:44his parents didn't cry
49:46but when Dato Najib was in prison,
49:48they cried.
49:49So, you can imagine
49:51how he felt with his friend.
49:53His best friend.
49:55I also cried because I know
49:58Sorry, Dato.
49:59It's okay.
50:00Okay.
50:01We know that you are busy
50:04with your family.
50:06Your mother, wife,
50:09politicians at the same time.
50:11You also have your own business.
50:14If I remember correctly,
50:16Tiduh Hotel, right?
50:18Yes, Tiduh Hotel.
50:19It's a three-star hotel.
50:20This is a new branch, Dato.
50:22You are in the business field.
50:24Actually, when I built this hotel,
50:26I said that
50:28before we start this,
50:30I quit my job in early 2016
50:35because I wanted to challenge myself
50:37with a new business venture.
50:39I was with a company.
50:41They had a hotel.
50:43They managed a few hotels.
50:46So, I started studying there
50:48and I like hotel business.
50:50When I left that company,
50:54I worked with my husband.
50:58I was still dreaming of
51:02having my own hotel to manage.
51:05My husband knew about my dream.
51:08So, Alhamdulillah,
51:10we leased that hotel.
51:12We leased, long leased.
51:13Then we refurbished.
51:15Then we started the operation of that hotel.
51:18There were a few businesses
51:20that we ventured because
51:22me and my husband,
51:24as you know,
51:26we don't want people to say
51:28that we got government projects,
51:30Harapkan Project, Harapkan Cable.
51:33Yes, yes, no.
51:35Actually, besides proving ourselves,
51:40we also want to prove to people,
51:42prove to my parents,
51:43especially my dad,
51:45that we can stand on our own.
51:47We can find our own source
51:51without troubling him,
51:54without embarrassing him,
51:56without anything for us to survive.
52:00That doesn't need to be tied to him.
52:02Yes, that's right.
52:03But no matter what,
52:04people say there is a connection.
52:06So, what can we do?
52:07If people want to know more than us,
52:08we just have to say okay.
52:09Yes, what can we do?
52:11And that's his struggle.
52:13Like I told you earlier,
52:15even if we do good,
52:17people say,
52:18even if we do bad,
52:19people say.
52:20So, we just live that way.
52:23Datuk, maybe in the last minute,
52:26one thing that I think people need to learn
52:35in their lives,
52:36in whatever situation,
52:38that maybe you have been through,
52:40you know, you have learned,
52:41and other people also need to do the same.
52:44Okay, one thing that we find it difficult to do
52:48is to have good intentions.
52:49Okay.
52:50If we want to have good intentions with people,
52:52it's easy.
52:53Because we see that thing, right?
52:55That thing exists.
52:56It's right in front of our eyes.
52:57If we want to have good intentions with Allah,
52:59actually,
53:00it's very difficult.
53:01Sometimes we are like,
53:02what else did I not do
53:04that I have to go through this test?
53:06I didn't get what others got.
53:08Yes, right?
53:09But no, actually,
53:10when you get the test,
53:11Allah loves you so much.
53:12So, I hope,
53:13people who get the test,
53:15people who have received the test,
53:16people who are going through the test,
53:18who feel that thing is very painful,
53:20just leave it to Allah.
53:23Like, He will solve it.
53:25It's simple.
53:26We just say to Him,
53:27Ya Allah, Ya Tuan Ku,
53:28I know this is the test that you gave.
53:30I can't get out of this test.
53:31I feel like it's very heavy.
53:33Can you help me?
53:34You gave the test,
53:35please solve it.
53:36Miraculously,
53:37that thing will happen.
53:39Like, for example,
53:40a small thing,
53:41I also like to watch podcasts,
53:43sometimes,
53:44sometimes,
53:45we have Tiktok,
53:46etc.
53:47This is my first podcast,
53:49if you want to know.
53:51In my heart,
53:52I feel like,
53:53eh, this podcast is okay, right?
53:55Like,
53:56no one wants to call me a podcast.
53:58In my heart,
53:59I don't talk to everyone.
54:00But suddenly,
54:01after that,
54:02I got a message
54:03from Aunty Nurul.
54:04Someone wants to interview in a podcast.
54:08Do you want it or not?
54:09So, I said,
54:10what podcast?
54:11What questions?
54:12So, do you understand?
54:13This thing,
54:14sometimes,
54:15we don't even need to shout out.
54:16Allah hears.
54:17So,
54:18be kind to Allah.
54:20This is the most difficult thing for people to do.
54:23I myself,
54:24sometimes,
54:25so,
54:26you have to
54:27be kind to Allah.
54:28Like that.
54:29After this,
54:30what else,
54:31Dato,
54:32do you want to do?
54:33You have everything.
54:34I just go with the flow.
54:35Okay.
54:36Because,
54:37after this,
54:38maybe,
54:39God willing,
54:40if there is a blessing,
54:41my two children are already married.
54:42I'm waiting for my grandchildren.
54:45We want,
54:46because,
54:47in this young age,
54:48we see,
54:49old people are tired of taking care of their grandchildren.
54:51They don't want to work.
54:52Sometimes,
54:53their children also work.
54:54I just wish,
54:55if Allah gives me
54:56a blessing to have grandchildren,
54:58when we are young,
55:00we also want to feel
55:01the feeling of a grandmother.
55:02Like that.
55:03We already feel the feeling of a mother.
55:05We already feel the feeling of being
55:07the second wife.
55:09Alhamdulillah, Dato.
55:10I just love my life.
55:11Alhamdulillah.
55:12Because,
55:13Allah gives me a lot of things.
55:15It's not just material.
55:17It's things that people can buy with money.
55:19As a grandmother,
55:21as a mother,
55:22as a wife,
55:23things that can be bought with money.
55:25We have to appreciate those things.
55:28And,
55:29don't be shy to share it with others.
55:31As if it is a blessing to others.
55:32If people go through the same thing,
55:34people will know.
55:35We know how to talk to that person
55:36to face the situation.
55:38Maybe,
55:39the last one.
55:40Again,
55:41the last one.
55:42Isn't it hard to see Dato Nurul Hidayah
55:45getting angry?
55:47It's easy.
55:49In the past,
55:50now,
55:51I've become like this.
55:54If I want to get angry,
55:57it has to do with my family.
55:59If someone insults my father,
56:01I'll get it.
56:02Right?
56:03I'll...
56:04We'll see.
56:05If someone insults my father,
56:06insults my family,
56:08insults my circle,
56:09insults my friends,
56:11insults my uncles,
56:12insults my aunts,
56:13insults my cousins,
56:14anything got to do with Nurul Hidayah,
56:17anything got to do with my circle that I love,
56:21if someone insults them,
56:22it's done.
56:25So, that's what we can see.
56:27Because of Kak Long, right?
56:28Yes.
56:29Kak Long's attitude is carried everywhere.
56:31That's right.
56:32If you're an artist,
56:33you know Kak Long, right?
56:35Yes.
56:36Sometimes,
56:37I want to add,
56:38sometimes,
56:39artists, for example,
56:40Yes.
56:41Sometimes,
56:42when my friends message me,
56:43they say,
56:44you know all the artists,
56:45they know you because
56:46I love to make friends.
56:48Wherever we meet,
56:49they call me Kak Long.
56:50That's right.
56:51So, I don't mind.
56:52Right?
56:54Thank you, Dato.
56:55Thank you so much.
56:56Thank you for being with us.
56:57And I think,
56:58one thing that's true,
56:59Dato,
57:00even though we don't go through
57:01the same phase in life,
57:03but there's one thing
57:04that we can share.
57:05That's right.
57:06For people to take,
57:07I want to be their guide.
57:09Because,
57:10well,
57:11to be someone like Nur Hidayah,
57:14maybe,
57:15it's not possible.
57:16And we're all not the same.
57:18Right?
57:19We're made,
57:20our rules are also different.
57:22But,
57:23there's nothing wrong
57:24and nothing impossible
57:25if we want to change ourselves.
57:27That's right.
57:28People see the glamour,
57:29the best things.
57:30But,
57:31why do we want to show
57:32the bad things?
57:33It's not just content.
57:34We're happy.
57:35Alhamdulillah,
57:36we're happy.
57:37But,
57:38when we're sad,
57:39there's also a down time.
57:40We also want to be
57:41ourselves.
57:42Right?
57:43But,
57:44Nur Hidayah is also
57:45a normal human being.
57:46Nur Hidayah,
57:47Mak Zahid,
57:48still Nur Hidayah.
57:49Right?
57:50Still Kak Long Kawasan.
57:51Yes.
57:52That's the thing,
57:53Kak Long.
57:54Dato,
57:55thank you again
57:56for being with us.
57:57Thank you so much.
57:59InsyaAllah,
58:00we'll meet again
58:01in Confession Bila Gelap.
58:07Alhamdulillah.
58:08Alhamdulillah.
58:09Alhamdulillah.
58:10Alhamdulillah.
58:11Alhamdulillah.
58:12Alhamdulillah.
58:13Alhamdulillah.
58:14Alhamdulillah.
58:15Alhamdulillah.
58:16Alhamdulillah.
58:17Alhamdulillah.
58:18Alhamdulillah.
58:19Alhamdulillah.
58:20Alhamdulillah.
58:21Alhamdulillah.
58:22Alhamdulillah.
58:23Alhamdulillah.
58:24Alhamdulillah.
58:25Alhamdulillah.
58:26Alhamdulillah.
58:27Alhamdulillah.
58:28Alhamdulillah.
58:29Alhamdulillah.
58:30Alhamdulillah.
58:31Alhamdulillah.
58:32Alhamdulillah.
58:33Alhamdulillah.
58:34Alhamdulillah.