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00:00:00As they grow up, Yelantin, they're all grown up now.
00:00:03Maybe they used to joke around to invite Uncle Mike to join Islam?
00:00:09Of course, always.
00:00:11I know Islam is a very good religion.
00:00:14The true religion.
00:00:17But I don't know yet.
00:00:20Because I have my mom.
00:00:23And like...
00:00:24My mom used to ask too.
00:00:29Islam is like my children.
00:00:32They respect their grandmothers.
00:00:35They greet them, kiss them, talk to them slowly.
00:00:39Sorry, that's me.
00:00:41Islam never teaches us to mock people.
00:00:45Recently, there were cases like the OKU beating that caused havoc.
00:00:51Things like this are bad for the teachings.
00:01:00Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
00:01:02You're back with me, Sudirman Matahir.
00:01:04In the podcast show, Confession, Bilik Gelap dan Istimewa.
00:01:07This week, I have a guest.
00:01:10I think his story is enough to inspire all Malaysians.
00:01:15Here he is, Uncle Mike.
00:01:19Can I call you Uncle Mike?
00:01:21Of course.
00:01:22Even though I'm still young, I'll still call you Uncle Mike.
00:01:24Uncle Mike, how are you?
00:01:26I'm fine, thank you.
00:01:28Greetings to everyone.
00:01:30Uncle Mike, I think last year, your story was enough to open the minds of the people in our country.
00:01:43With your story and Uncle Mike's background,
00:01:49you raised three brothers who are Muslims.
00:01:58Sorry, Uncle Mike, I said it wrong.
00:02:01Uncle Mike himself is Chinese.
00:02:04Yes, that's right.
00:02:07Behind this story, not only did it open the minds of the people,
00:02:14but it also touched the feelings of many people.
00:02:19How a man who I think is still single,
00:02:24raised three children from a young age,
00:02:27who are not his flesh and blood,
00:02:29but how he raised his own children.
00:02:32Uncle Mike, for the journey throughout 2014,
00:02:39if we can recap first,
00:02:41how did you, when this story began to be broadcasted,
00:02:45on the subway, I guess,
00:02:47as the first media to share this story.
00:02:52Subsequently, various media platforms have covered it.
00:02:57In the end, Uncle Mike himself was also nominated in the Malijirah, if I'm not mistaken.
00:03:06Mali Durasul.
00:03:07Mali Durasul.
00:03:08Uncle Mike, maybe you can share this story first.
00:03:12The story?
00:03:13Okay, before that, our life was like usual.
00:03:18So, we went to celebrate Eid at a friend's house.
00:03:22Then, we brought our children and grandchildren together.
00:03:26So, as usual, my grandson was very close to me.
00:03:32So, he would report anything to me.
00:03:34He would call me Atok.
00:03:36So, when we were celebrating Eid,
00:03:41we didn't know that there was a reporter.
00:03:44So, from there, he was curious.
00:03:48He said, why do you call a small Malay child, Atok?
00:03:53Then, I asked my friend, Mr. Rumah.
00:03:58When Mr. Rumah told me what was happening,
00:04:02he was so excited.
00:04:08So, he called me to get the story.
00:04:15At first, I was rejected because I was afraid.
00:04:20I was also embarrassed.
00:04:22So, I think he asked me out for a drink three times.
00:04:27If my friend asked me to go out for a drink,
00:04:29I would go out.
00:04:30That's right.
00:04:31So, I stayed there for three times.
00:04:34He treated me to a drink.
00:04:36Then, he persuaded me again.
00:04:39So, until the first or second time, he didn't succeed.
00:04:43The third time, he knew my style.
00:04:47He said, Uncle Mike, our country needs this story.
00:04:56We need the story of unity and inspiration.
00:05:01I said, really?
00:05:03I think it's normal.
00:05:10We live in the same family.
00:05:12It's normal.
00:05:14The children are grown up.
00:05:16So, I said, we want to tell them that
00:05:20unity is something we live in Malaysia.
00:05:27Actually, everyone should have no difference in skin color.
00:05:37So, I said, do it for the country.
00:05:40That's the verse.
00:05:41Do it for the country.
00:05:43So, for me, we live in peace in Malaysia.
00:05:49We can find food.
00:05:51Even if we want to eat at 3 AM,
00:05:54we can eat in the country.
00:05:57It's so peaceful.
00:05:59So, what can we contribute to the country?
00:06:02So, I think,
00:06:04you want me to be a soldier,
00:06:06you want me to be a policeman.
00:06:08We don't have the ability.
00:06:11So, we don't have the ability to take care of the country.
00:06:15So, what I can do is
00:06:17to give a little bit of inspiration
00:06:20to the people
00:06:22that we have to take care of the security of our country.
00:06:27So, okay.
00:06:30I agree.
00:06:31But I said to the children,
00:06:33get ready.
00:06:36I said, maybe one day,
00:06:38when we go out to eat,
00:06:40people will recognize us.
00:06:41People will recognize us.
00:06:42They will take a picture.
00:06:43They will take a picture, right?
00:06:45But,
00:06:49it's a new and sweet experience
00:06:53in our life.
00:06:55So,
00:06:57we just help the country
00:07:01in this way.
00:07:03That's it.
00:07:04Then,
00:07:07I didn't expect that.
00:07:09Because Arif Mitro put a fan page.
00:07:12Yes, in front of us.
00:07:14So,
00:07:16when we see the fan page,
00:07:18it's like a big story.
00:07:21It's like our leader
00:07:26or something that got a goal.
00:07:30But,
00:07:31I never thought about it.
00:07:33Like,
00:07:34our story,
00:07:36all this time,
00:07:38I'm getting old.
00:07:41I'm getting old.
00:07:42With his children.
00:07:44I'm getting old.
00:07:46So, I feel like,
00:07:48a story like this can go to the fan page.
00:07:51Yes.
00:07:52And that's the value of his story.
00:07:54It's really sweet.
00:07:55So,
00:07:56I didn't expect it.
00:07:58Until,
00:08:00when the time
00:08:03when the story came out in Arif Mitro.
00:08:08So, it came out in social media,
00:08:11and other news.
00:08:12So, I feel like,
00:08:14after that,
00:08:16there's an NGO,
00:08:18and all this,
00:08:19started to give awards, right?
00:08:20Yes.
00:08:21So,
00:08:22it's like,
00:08:24we feel like our life is
00:08:26unbelievable.
00:08:27Are we still in a dream?
00:08:31Because,
00:08:32I never thought about it.
00:08:34Especially,
00:08:35when,
00:08:36Jakim called,
00:08:38he said,
00:08:41Mr. Mike,
00:08:42where are you?
00:08:43We want to take Mr. Mike,
00:08:45to receive the award.
00:08:47Let's go to Rasul.
00:08:48First thing,
00:08:49in my head,
00:08:51you guys are scammers,
00:08:52don't play around.
00:08:54Then,
00:08:55the officer got angry.
00:08:57He said,
00:08:58are you all scammers?
00:08:59Do you want the award?
00:09:00I said,
00:09:01if it's true,
00:09:02who doesn't want it?
00:09:04Then,
00:09:05when it came to the briefing,
00:09:08when it was said,
00:09:09the award will be delivered by,
00:09:12the honorable,
00:09:14Mr. Goh,
00:09:16Mr. Kuh,
00:09:17who will give the award.
00:09:19I feel like,
00:09:22am I still,
00:09:24breathing?
00:09:26Is it true?
00:09:28So,
00:09:29I really,
00:09:31didn't expect it.
00:09:33Because,
00:09:36Toko Molodoro is,
00:09:38like,
00:09:39a gift from the government,
00:09:41to someone,
00:09:43who is,
00:09:44very loyal to the country.
00:09:46But,
00:09:47we are just,
00:09:49like a family.
00:09:51True.
00:09:52So,
00:09:54it's like a dream.
00:09:56But,
00:09:57when I got the award,
00:09:59I felt like,
00:10:01I still can't believe it.
00:10:03You still feel like,
00:10:04you're not stepping on the ground.
00:10:05Yes,
00:10:06like,
00:10:07maybe I'll be taken care of,
00:10:09from the dream.
00:10:11But,
00:10:12after the interview,
00:10:14everything,
00:10:15like,
00:10:17I'm really,
00:10:18thankful,
00:10:20to Mr. Kuh,
00:10:22to PMX,
00:10:23to the government of Malaysia,
00:10:25because,
00:10:27they gave me,
00:10:30an award,
00:10:31that,
00:10:32I never thought,
00:10:34I would get.
00:10:38Uncle Mike,
00:10:40if we go back,
00:10:41to,
00:10:44the story,
00:10:45how,
00:10:46it started,
00:10:47Uncle Mike's journey,
00:10:50to raise three children.
00:10:53I think,
00:10:54they are,
00:10:55quite mature,
00:10:56almost 30 years old,
00:10:58Uncle Mike.
00:10:59Yes, that's right.
00:11:01Maybe,
00:11:02in people's mind,
00:11:03it's okay,
00:11:04to be single,
00:11:05to raise,
00:11:07three children,
00:11:09it's okay,
00:11:10because you're single,
00:11:11people will think,
00:11:12it's easy.
00:11:13But,
00:11:14on the other hand,
00:11:15people said,
00:11:16Uncle Mike's joy,
00:11:17through today,
00:11:18right?
00:11:20Throughout,
00:11:21raising them,
00:11:24Uncle Mike,
00:11:25did you have a hard time?
00:11:28As usual,
00:11:29we see,
00:11:30it's easy,
00:11:31but,
00:11:32if we,
00:11:33are in that situation,
00:11:36we know,
00:11:37to,
00:11:38to,
00:11:39see,
00:11:40three teenagers,
00:11:41growing up,
00:11:42and,
00:11:43we're very worried,
00:11:44with the social,
00:11:46outside,
00:11:47what we do,
00:11:49we,
00:11:50indeed,
00:11:51the responsibility,
00:11:52is very big,
00:11:53when we agree,
00:11:54to accept,
00:11:56these three children,
00:11:57right?
00:11:58So,
00:11:59first thing of,
00:12:00the,
00:12:01thing that,
00:12:02their grandmother,
00:12:03my mother,
00:12:05throw the question is,
00:12:09you're married,
00:12:10not yet,
00:12:11but,
00:12:12you take,
00:12:13responsible,
00:12:14to,
00:12:15take care of,
00:12:16three children,
00:12:18are you capable?
00:12:19You,
00:12:20can you?
00:12:21Okay.
00:12:22I say,
00:12:24in our life,
00:12:26everything,
00:12:27is a challenge,
00:12:29a challenge,
00:12:31this challenge,
00:12:32to take care of,
00:12:33these three children,
00:12:35is a challenge from God,
00:12:36because,
00:12:37yes,
00:12:38you imagine,
00:12:39when we do,
00:12:40do,
00:12:41what,
00:12:42charity at home,
00:12:43orphans,
00:12:44at the grave,
00:12:46I'm not alone,
00:12:47many,
00:12:48we are many,
00:12:49we are in more than 20,
00:12:50charities,
00:12:51and,
00:12:52every charity,
00:12:53there is one,
00:12:54male leader,
00:12:55why,
00:12:56more than 20 people,
00:12:58do not,
00:12:59see,
00:13:00Rafi'i,
00:13:01why,
00:13:02directed to me,
00:13:04means he,
00:13:06there is something that,
00:13:08the God,
00:13:09wants me to do,
00:13:10that is why,
00:13:11I feel,
00:13:12before this,
00:13:13fall in love,
00:13:14fall in love,
00:13:15fall in love,
00:13:16all,
00:13:17flowers,
00:13:18no flowers,
00:13:19no kinds,
00:13:20no kinds.
00:13:21No,
00:13:22even,
00:13:23who feels,
00:13:24time,
00:13:25that time,
00:13:27this is,
00:13:28my destiny,
00:13:30at the end,
00:13:31still,
00:13:32not let go,
00:13:33then,
00:13:34get,
00:13:36find Rafi'i,
00:13:37so,
00:13:38to me,
00:13:40this is the thing that,
00:13:42I need to accept the challenge,
00:13:44the challenge I have to accept,
00:13:46where the God sent me, Rafi'i, to see how I deal with my life, God.
00:13:56So, that's where we started to become a father and a mother.
00:14:04So, imagine, growing up with these teenagers,
00:14:08all kinds of things, going to school, then going to tuition,
00:14:13reading, that's what's important, right?
00:14:15Because I know I don't have the ability,
00:14:19because I don't have the knowledge to teach these kids
00:14:26in terms of their faith, their religion, their Islam,
00:14:32what to do.
00:14:34But in the meantime, I did learn before this.
00:14:38So, as an example, my nephew,
00:14:43when he first came into the house,
00:14:46when I saw him, he was a kid, right?
00:14:49At that time, I think he was in Form 1.
00:14:5313 years old.
00:14:54Yes, 13 or 12 years old, I think.
00:14:57Form 1.
00:14:58He just moved into my house.
00:15:02When I saw him not following his brother to pray,
00:15:08I scolded him.
00:15:09I said, why didn't you pray?
00:15:14His mother was watching TV.
00:15:16So, he thought I was a normal kid.
00:15:22Who wouldn't know.
00:15:24Because maybe his brother didn't brief him.
00:15:27So, this thing, he said,
00:15:31Uncle Mike, in Islam,
00:15:34Uncle Mike, do you know what Jammat is?
00:15:37So, we can keep it until after Ishaq,
00:15:40then we run together.
00:15:43Look at him.
00:15:45He's angry.
00:15:47Yes, he's angry.
00:15:48Because he wants to avoid it.
00:15:50A kid.
00:15:51A kid, right?
00:15:52So, once it's true.
00:15:55It's true.
00:15:56So, he didn't know you were involved in the story.
00:15:59It's true.
00:16:00That's when I told Ustaz about Jammat.
00:16:05So, after that, his brother told him.
00:16:12He said, don't play with Uncle Mike.
00:16:14Uncle Mike knows everything.
00:16:16I don't know.
00:16:17But after that, he couldn't stand it.
00:16:19He couldn't stand it.
00:16:20So, I was relieved.
00:16:22But from a teenager's point of view,
00:16:27they're just the same.
00:16:29When they fight, get angry,
00:16:34usually, they fight, want to go to school.
00:16:37That's all we have to do.
00:16:39And then, in terms of their daily life,
00:16:43we have to take care of their emotions.
00:16:45So, we have to know what they don't like,
00:16:48what can make them happy.
00:16:51Then, what can we encourage them to learn.
00:16:59But, as usual, I didn't force them.
00:17:04So, we gave them choices.
00:17:09For example, the one who was in Sulong.
00:17:13So, before he joined the IKBN,
00:17:17he didn't want to go to school.
00:17:21But we gave him examples.
00:17:23For example, if he didn't want to go to school,
00:17:27he had to go to a higher level.
00:17:30So, you go for Tivet.
00:17:32His choices.
00:17:33Yes, his choices.
00:17:34So that he won't be left behind.
00:17:37Because these kids are mixed with other kids.
00:17:42They're his best friends.
00:17:43So, we have to take care of them.
00:17:45So, there's another way.
00:17:49We have to be their friends.
00:17:54Sometimes, we're firm.
00:17:57Sometimes, we're like their friends
00:18:01so that they can tell their stories.
00:18:04It's not that easy.
00:18:05We want to get what's in their hearts.
00:18:11It's not that easy.
00:18:12Because sometimes, even though we try,
00:18:17they still want to keep it.
00:18:20Especially the elder ones.
00:18:23So, the responsibility is very high.
00:18:29Uncle Mike, I want to know
00:18:32when your mom asked you back,
00:18:36are you sure to take them in?
00:18:42To raise them.
00:18:43And I also want to know,
00:18:46Uncle Mike's decision to take them in,
00:18:50to raise them,
00:18:52did he want to say yes for a long time?
00:18:58Or maybe because he didn't think about
00:19:04getting married,
00:19:06because Uncle Mike was going through a break-up phase.
00:19:11He didn't want to get married.
00:19:13So, this is my last choice.
00:19:17Actually, I accept the challenge.
00:19:26Like I said earlier,
00:19:28the challenge is from God.
00:19:30But I want to tell my mom,
00:19:34so that my family can accept
00:19:38these three children.
00:19:41So, when my mom asked,
00:19:46I had to ask myself.
00:19:49Because in the morning,
00:19:54I had to wake up early to wake them up.
00:19:57To go to school.
00:19:59So, I had to rush back at night
00:20:04to cook.
00:20:07If I really didn't have time,
00:20:09we just ate out.
00:20:11So, I didn't want to think about it.
00:20:18So, you were determined.
00:20:20Yes, I was determined.
00:20:22But when I brought these kids home
00:20:26to meet my family,
00:20:29you accepted them as my own child.
00:20:32That's all.
00:20:33And then, I told my mom,
00:20:37all of a sudden, you have three grandchildren.
00:20:41So, aren't you happy?
00:20:43But my mom accepted.
00:20:46Because the way she did it,
00:20:49she felt that it wasn't fair.
00:20:52Because when you have three grandchildren,
00:20:58you know, as a culture,
00:21:02as a Malay,
00:21:04we respect,
00:21:06when we meet, we shake hands.
00:21:10My mom was like,
00:21:11wow, her own child didn't do that.
00:21:14You understand, right?
00:21:16As an old person,
00:21:17she felt a very high respect
00:21:22from the kids to her.
00:21:26So, I had an idea.
00:21:30She went to Langkawi,
00:21:33she came back,
00:21:34she bought chocolate.
00:21:36Her grandchild,
00:21:38from my sister,
00:21:40she did buy chocolate.
00:21:42But she kept one bag.
00:21:46She kept it,
00:21:47she waited for her grandchild to come back.
00:21:52To share.
00:21:53Yes, to share.
00:21:54So, from there,
00:21:56I saw,
00:21:57love.
00:21:58My mom also loved them.
00:22:01So, when I came back,
00:22:02I didn't bring them.
00:22:04She started asking,
00:22:07why didn't you come back for so long?
00:22:10They didn't bring you back.
00:22:12Then, after that,
00:22:14she invited me to come back.
00:22:17And then, my eldest also always,
00:22:20he became a reminder for me.
00:22:22When I was busy with work,
00:22:24if I didn't come back for a while,
00:22:26he would scold me.
00:22:27He said, Uncle Mike,
00:22:29your grandma is at home.
00:22:31Come back.
00:22:32He said,
00:22:33find her.
00:22:34Like,
00:22:36for example,
00:22:38usually, we go,
00:22:39we eat outside.
00:22:43Come back,
00:22:44take your grandma with you,
00:22:45go eat.
00:22:46Like that.
00:22:47I said,
00:22:49when my mom can walk again,
00:22:52she's okay now.
00:22:53She's old, right?
00:22:55She's a little less.
00:22:56So, we just go home.
00:22:58Go home,
00:22:59see her.
00:23:00Uncle Mike,
00:23:01throughout the growing up,
00:23:04throughout the growing up of these three children,
00:23:08do you often share stories with them
00:23:11or do they express
00:23:13their feelings?
00:23:14Because,
00:23:15we know that they are orphans, right?
00:23:17Of course,
00:23:18they miss their parents' love
00:23:20and care for them.
00:23:24Right?
00:23:25And,
00:23:26once in a while,
00:23:27maybe they tell Uncle Mike.
00:23:29These three,
00:23:33the one that is a little difficult to tell,
00:23:35is the eldest one.
00:23:36Oh, okay.
00:23:37The youngest one,
00:23:39he's a storyteller.
00:23:41But,
00:23:42his level,
00:23:44I know,
00:23:45in the past,
00:23:46he was just a kid.
00:23:48Maybe when I took him to another orphanage,
00:23:52he was still in elementary school.
00:23:54So,
00:23:55maybe when his parents passed away,
00:23:59he was still a kid.
00:24:01He didn't know anything.
00:24:03So, the eldest one.
00:24:06So,
00:24:07he was very involved
00:24:12in his family's situation.
00:24:15How he was sent to an orphanage.
00:24:19So,
00:24:20he kept it.
00:24:21When I met him,
00:24:25to know why he didn't want to go to school
00:24:27and why he rebelled at the orphanage,
00:24:31he was very...
00:24:34Even now,
00:24:35he doesn't tell anything.
00:24:38But,
00:24:40when we ask,
00:24:42we see that he has a problem,
00:24:45we push him to know,
00:24:49we will get a little bit.
00:24:51What did Uncle Mike always tell?
00:24:53What did he always tell?
00:24:54I mean,
00:24:55what he would say if Uncle Mike asked him.
00:24:58When he was a kid.
00:24:59That's right.
00:25:00I asked him,
00:25:02why he didn't want to go to school.
00:25:04In the morning,
00:25:05when everyone went down to the van
00:25:08for the bus to take him to school.
00:25:13He said,
00:25:15when he got closer to him,
00:25:17he told him,
00:25:19Uncle Mike,
00:25:20even if I went,
00:25:21I didn't understand what you said.
00:25:24For example,
00:25:26we went to school,
00:25:28then we found out
00:25:30that when his father passed away,
00:25:33his mother passed away,
00:25:34with all the processes,
00:25:36he actually didn't go to school.
00:25:39He was left behind.
00:25:41Meaning,
00:25:42when he came in,
00:25:43the teacher had taught him something else,
00:25:45so he couldn't catch up.
00:25:49So, from that,
00:25:51we found out,
00:25:53it's like,
00:25:54initially,
00:25:55we gave him a tuition teacher,
00:25:59one-to-one,
00:26:00so he could catch up.
00:26:02So,
00:26:03we were grateful
00:26:04when we got to solve the problem
00:26:06of this young boy.
00:26:08Back then,
00:26:10there was PMR.
00:26:13PMR.
00:26:14When he lost PMR,
00:26:16he went to Home 5.
00:26:17We felt relieved.
00:26:19Relieved that he could catch up.
00:26:23Then,
00:26:24he went to IKBN.
00:26:27Akhirmai,
00:26:28did they ever share
00:26:30the feeling of longing
00:26:32to their parents?
00:26:36It was during Eid.
00:26:38Eid.
00:26:39So,
00:26:40as I said,
00:26:41we have to,
00:26:42what is it?
00:26:43Give in
00:26:45to fate.
00:26:47Then,
00:26:48the most important thing,
00:26:50in prayer.
00:26:52In prayer,
00:26:53when
00:26:56you pray,
00:26:58you pray
00:26:59to your parents
00:27:00in the grave,
00:27:02who passed away.
00:27:04Then,
00:27:06I told them,
00:27:08this is another
00:27:10kind of challenge.
00:27:12But,
00:27:13you have to remember,
00:27:14God loves you.
00:27:16Why?
00:27:17Because he sent
00:27:19Akhirmai
00:27:20to meet you.
00:27:21That's why my name
00:27:23is still called uncle.
00:27:25I told them,
00:27:27don't call me uncle.
00:27:29Because,
00:27:30there are many people
00:27:31who call me uncle.
00:27:33I said,
00:27:34I think,
00:27:35for me,
00:27:36I said,
00:27:37there's no need.
00:27:38The name is
00:27:39worldly.
00:27:40Because,
00:27:41when you pray,
00:27:43you pray
00:27:44directly to your parents.
00:27:46So,
00:27:47father,
00:27:48mother.
00:27:49So,
00:27:50that's your parents.
00:27:51But,
00:27:52they passed away
00:27:53early.
00:27:54So,
00:27:55what do you want to do?
00:27:56Even if you want to do anything,
00:27:58that's God's will.
00:28:00But,
00:28:02God
00:28:04gave you Akhirmai.
00:28:05So,
00:28:06you pray to Akhirmai
00:28:07for a long time.
00:28:08Take care of you
00:28:09until you grow up.
00:28:10So,
00:28:11I think,
00:28:12God also
00:28:13takes care of them.
00:28:14And then,
00:28:15they are like,
00:28:16grown up.
00:28:17They have their own family.
00:28:19So,
00:28:20I'm relieved.
00:28:21I'm worried
00:28:22about the little one.
00:28:24But,
00:28:25he's also 24 years old.
00:28:27Maybe,
00:28:28in another 2 years,
00:28:29he can get married.
00:28:30Akhirmai,
00:28:31among the 3 children,
00:28:33who is the most
00:28:35sensitive
00:28:36or emotional?
00:28:39The most sensitive
00:28:40is Sulung.
00:28:41Okay.
00:28:42Rafiee.
00:28:44He,
00:28:48he's sensitive
00:28:49to everything.
00:28:50Sensitive.
00:28:51If,
00:28:52we,
00:28:53accidentally,
00:28:54scold him,
00:28:56or,
00:28:57scold him,
00:28:58or,
00:28:59scold him,
00:29:01harshly,
00:29:02harshly,
00:29:03harshly,
00:29:04harshly,
00:29:05he will enter the room,
00:29:06and close the door.
00:29:08He doesn't want to leave the room.
00:29:10He doesn't even want to eat.
00:29:12But, we know,
00:29:13he's hungry at night.
00:29:15So, we leave the room alone.
00:29:16So, we also know,
00:29:17we leave him in the cage,
00:29:19so that,
00:29:20he can,
00:29:21reheat his food.
00:29:24So,
00:29:26but,
00:29:27since he's married,
00:29:29and he has a family,
00:29:31and he has a child,
00:29:34he has changed a lot.
00:29:37So,
00:29:38sometimes,
00:29:39when,
00:29:40my grandson,
00:29:41Ajok,
00:29:42he said,
00:29:43this is it.
00:29:44Dad's character.
00:29:45Dad's character.
00:29:47You get back.
00:29:50But,
00:29:51the second one,
00:29:52is like,
00:29:55a bit harsh,
00:29:56but,
00:29:59like,
00:30:01he also,
00:30:02actually,
00:30:03he keeps a lot of things.
00:30:05We try to,
00:30:06but,
00:30:07sometimes,
00:30:08teenagers are still teenagers.
00:30:10That's right.
00:30:12The,
00:30:13the third one,
00:30:14is okay.
00:30:15That's the best.
00:30:17Because,
00:30:18he'll tell you.
00:30:19If he doesn't like it,
00:30:20he'll get mad.
00:30:22And he'll tell you,
00:30:24why did you get this?
00:30:25Why didn't I do it?
00:30:27He'll say,
00:30:28why did you do it alone?
00:30:30That's it.
00:30:31I'll get mad at him.
00:30:32He'll get back at you.
00:30:33Yes, he'll get back at me.
00:30:34But, it's okay.
00:30:35At least,
00:30:36he,
00:30:38he's open.
00:30:39He's open-minded.
00:30:40And,
00:30:41if he doesn't like it,
00:30:42he'll keep talking.
00:30:44So,
00:30:45the three,
00:30:46For example,
00:30:47if he doesn't like something,
00:30:48what will you do?
00:30:49Huh?
00:30:50For example,
00:30:51if he doesn't like something,
00:30:52what will you do?
00:30:53I'll wake him up in the morning.
00:30:54Okay.
00:30:55I'll wake him up in the morning,
00:30:56if he doesn't like it.
00:30:57If,
00:30:58so,
00:30:59he's like,
00:31:00following me,
00:31:01following me to work,
00:31:02that's more like,
00:31:04he said,
00:31:05he wants to,
00:31:06what?
00:31:07Do art.
00:31:08So,
00:31:09we understand.
00:31:10So,
00:31:11what does he want to do?
00:31:12We give him,
00:31:13give him a try,
00:31:14give him a taste,
00:31:15because,
00:31:16sometimes,
00:31:17teenagers,
00:31:18they don't,
00:31:19their head is not sleepy,
00:31:20they don't,
00:31:21they don't know,
00:31:22what the outside world is like.
00:31:23Especially,
00:31:24in the business world.
00:31:25Because,
00:31:26they open,
00:31:27what?
00:31:28These three brothers,
00:31:29we give him,
00:31:30open,
00:31:31what?
00:31:32Cafe.
00:31:33Okay.
00:31:34So,
00:31:35they have the expertise,
00:31:36in,
00:31:37what?
00:31:38Making coffee.
00:31:39Barista.
00:31:40Barista.
00:31:41So,
00:31:42they train,
00:31:43for,
00:31:44how to make,
00:31:45food,
00:31:46ice cream,
00:31:47all that.
00:31:48So, hopefully,
00:31:49one day,
00:31:50they will succeed.
00:31:51We also hope so.
00:31:53Because,
00:31:55to follow my work,
00:31:56they feel like,
00:31:58not really,
00:32:00interested.
00:32:01So, we,
00:32:03can't force it.
00:32:05Uncle Mike,
00:32:06when they,
00:32:07when they were little,
00:32:08right?
00:32:09If for example,
00:32:10you take them out,
00:32:11buy school supplies,
00:32:12for example,
00:32:13or,
00:32:14on Eid, right?
00:32:15Bring,
00:32:16buy,
00:32:17Eid supplies.
00:32:18Maybe,
00:32:19once in a while,
00:32:20people ask,
00:32:22where's,
00:32:23yes,
00:32:24partner,
00:32:25he must know.
00:32:26There won't be no partner,
00:32:27for example,
00:32:28if they see you bring three people,
00:32:29have you ever,
00:32:30Uncle Mike?
00:32:32So far,
00:32:33we're like,
00:32:35brother,
00:32:36okay.
00:32:38So,
00:32:39things,
00:32:40like a friend,
00:32:41he said,
00:32:42where's,
00:32:44where's their mother?
00:32:47So,
00:32:48we feel like,
00:32:51it's okay,
00:32:52if there's a partner,
00:32:53there is.
00:32:54If not,
00:32:55we don't look for it,
00:32:57like us,
00:32:58early on.
00:33:00If there's no partner,
00:33:01it won't arrive.
00:33:03So, the important thing,
00:33:04they grow up.
00:33:05So, when shopping,
00:33:06actually,
00:33:07they're happy.
00:33:08Buy,
00:33:09like,
00:33:10for example,
00:33:11Eid,
00:33:12Eid clothes,
00:33:13we,
00:33:14once a year,
00:33:15we celebrate Eid twice,
00:33:16right?
00:33:17One Chinese New Year,
00:33:18one,
00:33:19Eid.
00:33:20So,
00:33:21when it's Chinese New Year,
00:33:22we buy,
00:33:23we buy a lot.
00:33:25So,
00:33:26for Eid,
00:33:27we will buy
00:33:28a lot.
00:33:29So,
00:33:31we,
00:33:32like,
00:33:33there's no,
00:33:34what,
00:33:37people look,
00:33:39maybe,
00:33:40they're curious.
00:33:41Sometimes,
00:33:42there's people,
00:33:43like,
00:33:44but, so far,
00:33:45my friends,
00:33:46they know.
00:33:47They know,
00:33:48they understand.
00:33:49So, they don't ask.
00:33:50Only,
00:33:51what,
00:33:52outsiders,
00:33:53we don't know.
00:33:54Right.
00:33:55Because,
00:33:56maybe,
00:33:57some people see,
00:33:58okay,
00:33:59they just look.
00:34:00Because,
00:34:01when I'm outside,
00:34:02my face,
00:34:03I feel,
00:34:04my face is also serious.
00:34:05So,
00:34:06you don't want to admit it?
00:34:07No.
00:34:08Sometimes,
00:34:09I say,
00:34:11don't play with
00:34:12this Chinese guy,
00:34:13Jinjang.
00:34:15Maybe, they're scared.
00:34:16Yes, yes.
00:34:17They ask,
00:34:18maybe,
00:34:19the soft set,
00:34:20at the back,
00:34:21there's something.
00:34:22Uncle Mike,
00:34:23have you ever asked,
00:34:24about,
00:34:25about,
00:34:26well,
00:34:27don't want,
00:34:28to have a partner?
00:34:29Eh,
00:34:30everyday,
00:34:31they're noisy.
00:34:32But,
00:34:33one thing,
00:34:34I ask them,
00:34:35are you ready,
00:34:36to accept,
00:34:37Ibu Tiri?
00:34:40So, you turn around?
00:34:41Yes.
00:34:42If you don't watch,
00:34:43the movie,
00:34:44Ibu Tiri,
00:34:45they'll kick you out.
00:34:49In the movie,
00:34:50there's always,
00:34:51a portrait like that.
00:34:52Only,
00:34:53when they're young,
00:34:54they ask that.
00:34:55I,
00:34:56the way,
00:34:57the most,
00:34:58don't want to answer a lot,
00:34:59want to talk,
00:35:00about my problem,
00:35:01back then.
00:35:04That's it.
00:35:05When they're grown up,
00:35:06when they're family,
00:35:07they understand,
00:35:08they understand,
00:35:09a little bit,
00:35:10about love.
00:35:12So, they already feel,
00:35:13what,
00:35:14what,
00:35:15know the girl,
00:35:16the girl doesn't want them,
00:35:17or,
00:35:18the girl wants them.
00:35:19Until,
00:35:20the uncle,
00:35:21and the second one,
00:35:22are married.
00:35:23I think,
00:35:24I,
00:35:25sometimes,
00:35:26open up a story.
00:35:27Because,
00:35:28sometimes,
00:35:29they see old photos,
00:35:30they see,
00:35:31who's this?
00:35:32Sometimes,
00:35:33there's a couple,
00:35:34they want to throw it away,
00:35:35right?
00:35:36Keep it.
00:35:37Keep it, right?
00:35:38Like,
00:35:39they ask,
00:35:40who's this?
00:35:41But,
00:35:42it's hard to answer,
00:35:43Mike.
00:35:44We,
00:35:45but,
00:35:46just say it.
00:35:47Say,
00:35:48this is all not in God.
00:35:49We have to,
00:35:50what,
00:35:51surrender,
00:35:52what God has planned for us.
00:35:54We,
00:35:55go.
00:35:56We move on.
00:35:57Move on.
00:35:58Until,
00:35:59I meet you three.
00:36:00So,
00:36:01I don't,
00:36:02don't,
00:36:03concentrate,
00:36:04my life,
00:36:05on the three of you.
00:36:06So,
00:36:07I don't think,
00:36:08about other things.
00:36:09Actually,
00:36:10there are,
00:36:11intro friends,
00:36:12but,
00:36:13it's like,
00:36:14it's not suitable,
00:36:15right?
00:36:16It's not suitable,
00:36:17like,
00:36:18it's true,
00:36:19it will be,
00:36:20material,
00:36:21in,
00:36:22what,
00:36:23Snow White's story,
00:36:24or something.
00:36:25Or,
00:36:26because,
00:36:27at that time,
00:36:28really,
00:36:29Uncle Mike's life,
00:36:30is for,
00:36:31the three children.
00:36:33For me,
00:36:35it's not,
00:36:36the first time,
00:36:37I fell in love,
00:36:38and broke up.
00:36:39There were,
00:36:40a few,
00:36:41a few times,
00:36:42that,
00:36:43I think,
00:36:44those who fell in love,
00:36:45when they broke up,
00:36:46you,
00:36:47you get the hurt,
00:36:48like,
00:36:49really,
00:36:50what,
00:36:51disappointed,
00:36:52sad,
00:36:53and,
00:36:54like,
00:36:55disturbing our lives.
00:36:56So,
00:36:57I feel like,
00:36:58when,
00:36:59the three siblings came,
00:37:00I just feel like,
00:37:01like,
00:37:02oh,
00:37:03okay,
00:37:04this is,
00:37:05my,
00:37:06this is my,
00:37:07this is my,
00:37:08this is my,
00:37:09this is my,
00:37:10responsibility,
00:37:11right?
00:37:12So,
00:37:13why,
00:37:14I just,
00:37:15so,
00:37:16when,
00:37:17they were,
00:37:18they were grown up,
00:37:19now,
00:37:20now,
00:37:21now,
00:37:22I feel like,
00:37:23like,
00:37:24okay,
00:37:25this is God's,
00:37:26plan,
00:37:27to,
00:37:28to,
00:37:29to,
00:37:30yeah,
00:37:31after,
00:37:32what,
00:37:33almost 18 years,
00:37:34you know,
00:37:35with,
00:37:36them,
00:37:37we were quiet,
00:37:38and,
00:37:39people gossiped behind,
00:37:40what we were doing,
00:37:41just didn't know,
00:37:42uh,
00:37:43yeah,
00:37:44who would have thought,
00:37:45so,
00:37:46I was like,
00:37:47got,
00:37:48this,
00:37:49Molydora,
00:37:50so,
00:37:51and,
00:37:52the most,
00:37:53not expected,
00:37:54when,
00:37:55Astrosaw,
00:37:56want to make a movie,
00:37:57movie,
00:37:58right,
00:37:59inspired,
00:38:00uh,
00:38:01we can't,
00:38:02want,
00:38:03want,
00:38:04what,
00:38:05want to draw,
00:38:06want to draw,
00:38:07and,
00:38:08words,
00:38:09I feel like,
00:38:10uh,
00:38:11oh,
00:38:12this,
00:38:13this is how,
00:38:14uh,
00:38:15the God planned for,
00:38:16for me,
00:38:17this is how,
00:38:18how,
00:38:19things,
00:38:20uh,
00:38:21meaning,
00:38:22you do well,
00:38:23don't think,
00:38:24don't think,
00:38:25don't think,
00:38:26don't think,
00:38:27don't think,
00:38:28don't think,
00:38:29don't think,
00:38:30the God is there,
00:38:31always,
00:38:32so,
00:38:33never,
00:38:34really,
00:38:35never thought,
00:38:36never,
00:38:37never,
00:38:38uh,
00:38:39felt,
00:38:40uh,
00:38:41will,
00:38:42our story,
00:38:43will be filmed,
00:38:44like,
00:38:45oh,
00:38:46now,
00:38:47I thought,
00:38:48oh,
00:38:49this is how,
00:38:50uh,
00:38:51we as human,
00:38:52uh,
00:38:53we do,
00:38:54whatever we,
00:38:55we,
00:38:56we,
00:38:57we,
00:38:58we feel,
00:38:59uh,
00:39:00that's our responsibility,
00:39:01we have,
00:39:02what,
00:39:03our life journey,
00:39:04we don't need to be angry at anyone,
00:39:06we don't need to be angry at God,
00:39:07we don't need to be angry at people around us,
00:39:09nothing like this,
00:39:10we do what's in front of us,
00:39:12and we make what's behind us,
00:39:14as an example and example,
00:39:16so,
00:39:17yeah.
00:39:18Maybe this is the opposite of,
00:39:22uh,
00:39:23well,
00:39:24what Uncle Mike has gone through,
00:39:25growing them up with people,
00:39:27well,
00:39:28the two are married, right?
00:39:29Uh,
00:39:30people say one,
00:39:31one,
00:39:32oh,
00:39:33let go of his responsibilities there,
00:39:34but,
00:39:35uh,
00:39:36maybe many don't know,
00:39:37uh,
00:39:38the grief of Uncle Mike,
00:39:40meaning,
00:39:41once,
00:39:42uh,
00:39:43crying,
00:39:44seeing,
00:39:45uh,
00:39:46well,
00:39:47seeing Uncle Mike's journey,
00:39:48growing them up,
00:39:49from a young age,
00:39:51for 18 years,
00:39:52uh,
00:39:53he,
00:39:54dealing with,
00:39:55uh,
00:39:56teenagers,
00:39:57that is,
00:39:58there are times,
00:39:59but,
00:40:00um,
00:40:01when,
00:40:02um,
00:40:03we trust God,
00:40:04uh,
00:40:05I don't know,
00:40:06I,
00:40:07I,
00:40:08I am like that,
00:40:09uh,
00:40:10whatever happens,
00:40:12I consider it as a challenge,
00:40:14uh,
00:40:15like when this kid,
00:40:16uh,
00:40:17uh,
00:40:18wants to go,
00:40:19for example,
00:40:20after Form 3,
00:40:21he wants to go to vocational school,
00:40:22that's right,
00:40:23he doesn't want to go to SPM,
00:40:24I,
00:40:25because we know SPM is very,
00:40:27uh,
00:40:28important,
00:40:29uh,
00:40:30but we just follow it,
00:40:31uh,
00:40:32so,
00:40:33uh,
00:40:34at that time,
00:40:35we feel like,
00:40:36oh,
00:40:37he's grown up,
00:40:38he doesn't want to listen,
00:40:39but when we think back,
00:40:40like,
00:40:41what do you want,
00:40:42maybe this is,
00:40:43uh,
00:40:44what,
00:40:45his fate,
00:40:46his fate,
00:40:47his fate,
00:40:48on his life,
00:40:49uh,
00:40:50we just move,
00:40:51move on,
00:40:52uh,
00:40:53my fate is,
00:40:54uh,
00:40:55not getting a wife,
00:40:56but getting a son,
00:40:57a son,
00:40:58people always say,
00:40:59an instant son,
00:41:00an instant son,
00:41:01an instant son,
00:41:02right,
00:41:03but,
00:41:04uh,
00:41:05I never regret anything,
00:41:06because,
00:41:07I think,
00:41:08Form 3 is,
00:41:09uh,
00:41:10uh,
00:41:11very respectful,
00:41:12very,
00:41:13uh,
00:41:14respectful to me,
00:41:15and,
00:41:16yeah,
00:41:17now they're grown up,
00:41:18uh,
00:41:19they,
00:41:20uh,
00:41:21I don't like it,
00:41:22now,
00:41:23it's,
00:41:24like,
00:41:25their time,
00:41:26uh,
00:41:27makes me,
00:41:28now,
00:41:29their time,
00:41:30makes me,
00:41:31happy,
00:41:32yeah,
00:41:33I'm happy,
00:41:34so,
00:41:35I think,
00:41:36this reward is the most,
00:41:37when I see,
00:41:38uh,
00:41:39it's not that we want to say,
00:41:40we see a lot of teenagers,
00:41:41outside,
00:41:42how,
00:41:43right,
00:41:44going out,
00:41:45sorry,
00:41:46that,
00:41:47yeah,
00:41:48we give an example,
00:41:49social problems,
00:41:50like,
00:41:51going out,
00:41:52not coming home,
00:41:53right,
00:41:54uh,
00:41:55even,
00:41:56like,
00:41:57that kid,
00:41:58now he's still a teenager,
00:41:59if he wants to go anywhere,
00:42:00he will,
00:42:01uh,
00:42:02when I'm not at home,
00:42:03he will call,
00:42:04he will tell,
00:42:05ask for permission,
00:42:06yeah,
00:42:07he said,
00:42:08Uncle Mac,
00:42:09uh,
00:42:10tonight I'm going out with,
00:42:11who,
00:42:12who,
00:42:13so,
00:42:14for me,
00:42:15uh,
00:42:16there are three,
00:42:17good boys,
00:42:18who,
00:42:19uh,
00:42:20uh,
00:42:21they know,
00:42:22they used to be naughty,
00:42:23a little,
00:42:24but their naughty,
00:42:25I think,
00:42:26like,
00:42:27colorful,
00:42:28alive,
00:42:29right,
00:42:30uh,
00:42:31no,
00:42:32they got to,
00:42:33these kids,
00:42:34go get drugs,
00:42:35uh,
00:42:36what,
00:42:37uh,
00:42:38do things,
00:42:39uh,
00:42:40or,
00:42:41uh,
00:42:42in fact,
00:42:43the second one,
00:42:44he had done,
00:42:45uh,
00:42:46a little,
00:42:47but,
00:42:48left in a stage,
00:42:49which,
00:42:50which,
00:42:51uh,
00:42:52ruined his life,
00:42:53Uh,
00:42:54so,
00:42:55uh,
00:42:56as if,
00:42:57the important thing,
00:42:58to me,
00:42:59I think still,
00:43:00we as parent,
00:43:02the important thing is
00:43:04to instill,
00:43:05uh,
00:43:06what,
00:43:07uh,
00:43:08to make them afraid of God,
00:43:10Uh,
00:43:11and we got to tell him,
00:43:13Uh,
00:43:14Like I always tell them,
00:43:17you're afraid of Uncle Mike,
00:43:20Uncle Mike can only be angry,
00:43:22most of all, he won't give you money,
00:43:25he'll just treat you.
00:43:27But if you make God angry,
00:43:29God will take your life,
00:43:30tomorrow you won't see anything.
00:43:33Maybe when we always instill
00:43:36that they have to obey all the instructions of God,
00:43:43that is where, little by little,
00:43:46God will influence them.
00:43:49I think this is the thing.
00:43:51And you really value the education of religion
00:43:55for Uncle Mike,
00:43:57even though it's a different culture, religion.
00:44:01Because I think,
00:44:04all religions teach us to be good.
00:44:07So for me, they were born as Muslims.
00:44:12So what we do is,
00:44:15we should tell them,
00:44:18this is your religion.
00:44:21This is your religion.
00:44:23And you,
00:44:24that's what I always say,
00:44:26you have to remember,
00:44:29your name is Rafiee bin Ahmad Fauzi.
00:44:34You were born as a caliph,
00:44:40to other people.
00:44:43Correct.
00:44:44So if you don't learn,
00:44:46if you don't take care of your own religion,
00:44:53the one who will sin,
00:44:57is you.
00:44:59And then,
00:45:00I'm the one to blame.
00:45:02It's because of me.
00:45:05Because I didn't pressure you.
00:45:08Yes.
00:45:09Because,
00:45:10I want to tell you,
00:45:12in Chinese,
00:45:13even in Buddhist,
00:45:15we all have hellfire.
00:45:19Right?
00:45:20So I said,
00:45:21I don't want to.
00:45:22You mean hellfire?
00:45:23I mean hellfire,
00:45:24even though I saw you getting burned,
00:45:27I got burned too.
00:45:29So,
00:45:30that's how I wanted to explain to him.
00:45:33So I said,
00:45:34if we want to live comfortably,
00:45:36if we want to sit in an air-conditioned room,
00:45:40and then,
00:45:41well,
00:45:42we'll tell him what's in heaven.
00:45:46So,
00:45:47you don't want this, right?
00:45:48You don't want this, right?
00:45:50So,
00:45:51it's normal.
00:45:52It's really sad,
00:45:53like,
00:45:54a mummy crying.
00:45:58You want to make them understand.
00:46:00Yes.
00:46:01Sometimes it's like that.
00:46:02Sometimes we have to,
00:46:03while we're cooking,
00:46:05while we're cutting,
00:46:06they start crying.
00:46:08It's a bit traumatic.
00:46:09Traumatic.
00:46:10Crying.
00:46:11So,
00:46:14that's how our life is.
00:46:16If a kid,
00:46:18well,
00:46:19we know that when kids grow up,
00:46:21they have a lot of problems, right?
00:46:23If they're angry,
00:46:24it's normal, right?
00:46:25Have they ever made you cry?
00:46:28Cry?
00:46:34That's right.
00:46:35It's because of Rafi'i.
00:46:38In the beginning,
00:46:40when...
00:46:42I think at that time,
00:46:44it was like,
00:46:45tears in my eyes.
00:46:47When I...
00:46:50At that time,
00:46:51he hadn't stayed with me yet.
00:46:53I read his notes,
00:46:55his prayers to God, right?
00:46:58Because,
00:47:01well,
00:47:02because he said,
00:47:03Dear God,
00:47:04why did my parents pass away...
00:47:07What?
00:47:08Dear God,
00:47:09why did my parents pass away so early?
00:47:13And,
00:47:15why did his siblings leave him?
00:47:21At that time,
00:47:22for the first time,
00:47:23we were really touched, right?
00:47:26Like,
00:47:27tears in my eyes, right?
00:47:29That was the first time.
00:47:31But,
00:47:32the second time,
00:47:35when he said,
00:47:38he wanted to get married.
00:47:41At that time,
00:47:42we felt like,
00:47:44I don't know,
00:47:45it was automatic, right?
00:47:48So,
00:47:50the others,
00:47:51like,
00:47:52grew up with them.
00:47:54We didn't.
00:47:56We didn't want to listen to them.
00:47:58We didn't give them money.
00:47:59We didn't give them money to spend.
00:48:00I wanted to see them.
00:48:03He was like,
00:48:05but sometimes,
00:48:08there were a lot of touching moments when they grew up.
00:48:12So,
00:48:13what they...
00:48:15like,
00:48:17when Rafi'i
00:48:20got his first child,
00:48:23those were all the moments that came to my eyes.
00:48:29Because,
00:48:30like,
00:48:32when I saw my grandchildren,
00:48:34I was like,
00:48:35wow.
00:48:36You grew up with them, right?
00:48:38So,
00:48:39we grew up,
00:48:40we got married.
00:48:41When we got married,
00:48:42there were tears in my eyes.
00:48:44But,
00:48:45I feel like,
00:48:48today,
00:48:52I'm really thankful to God.
00:48:55Because,
00:48:56I'm grateful.
00:48:57Because,
00:48:58I got three children.
00:49:01Even though,
00:49:02they're not my children.
00:49:04But,
00:49:05I feel like,
00:49:08that's the greatest blessing
00:49:11that God has given me.
00:49:15When,
00:49:18they're all grown up,
00:49:20but,
00:49:21they're still like,
00:49:25close.
00:49:26Like,
00:49:29call me,
00:49:30and then,
00:49:31come down,
00:49:32come to me.
00:49:35They don't leave me.
00:49:40So,
00:49:41that's the thing that,
00:49:44sometimes,
00:49:47that's our life.
00:49:51So,
00:49:52I'm really thankful to God,
00:49:56for everything.
00:49:58Uncle Mike,
00:49:59when your great-grandchildren,
00:50:03told you that they wanted to get married,
00:50:05how did you feel?
00:50:08It's not a feeling,
00:50:09because,
00:50:11we feel like,
00:50:13they want to get married.
00:50:15That's the joy,
00:50:17they want to be with their family.
00:50:20Our heart is,
00:50:22we feel like,
00:50:25they're mature.
00:50:28They're ready,
00:50:29to fulfill their responsibilities,
00:50:31as a family.
00:50:33They'll be a father.
00:50:37So,
00:50:38we feel like,
00:50:42from the first sight,
00:50:44I saw him sitting,
00:50:45at the edge of the grass,
00:50:47with scary eyes.
00:50:50And,
00:50:51when he wanted to get married,
00:50:53it means,
00:50:55from a raw kid,
00:50:57who feels like,
00:50:59he's isolated,
00:51:01and,
00:51:02there's no love in this world.
00:51:05Suddenly,
00:51:06we feel like,
00:51:09this kid is mature,
00:51:11and,
00:51:12ready to fulfill their responsibilities,
00:51:14as a family.
00:51:17So,
00:51:18we feel like,
00:51:21in our heart,
00:51:22yes,
00:51:23we did it.
00:51:24Like,
00:51:25it's done.
00:51:26Yes, it's done.
00:51:27Like,
00:51:29the responsibility,
00:51:32when we started taking this kid,
00:51:35like,
00:51:36okay,
00:51:37this is,
00:51:40this is,
00:51:41the challenge that God gave me.
00:51:43And,
00:51:44you did it.
00:51:45Yes, I did it.
00:51:46And,
00:51:47I,
00:51:48like,
00:51:49I'm so grateful to God,
00:51:51for making my journey easier.
00:51:53Oh,
00:51:54I'm so tired.
00:51:55It's like,
00:51:56the team,
00:51:57it's automatic.
00:51:58Like,
00:51:59shadow.
00:52:02At that time,
00:52:03like,
00:52:04okay,
00:52:09my eldest,
00:52:10is now,
00:52:11a man.
00:52:13Who is responsible.
00:52:15So,
00:52:16I think,
00:52:17all parents are like that.
00:52:19Right?
00:52:20This is,
00:52:21the feeling.
00:52:22I think,
00:52:23because I,
00:52:24actually,
00:52:25never want to ask,
00:52:27my friends,
00:52:28how's,
00:52:29the thing.
00:52:31But,
00:52:32it's automatic.
00:52:33The,
00:52:34the feel is like,
00:52:37yes,
00:52:38we have done our part.
00:52:40There,
00:52:41another,
00:52:43man,
00:52:44coming up.
00:52:46So,
00:52:47one,
00:52:49become the head of the family.
00:52:51So,
00:52:52hopefully,
00:52:54then,
00:52:55come second one,
00:52:57already feel right?
00:52:58So,
00:52:59no,
00:53:00don't be so confused.
00:53:02Because we have chosen, right?
00:53:04So,
00:53:05when it's like,
00:53:06seeing they are already grown up,
00:53:10this is,
00:53:11life.
00:53:12Right?
00:53:13We also,
00:53:14don't have any thoughts.
00:53:15So,
00:53:17what they always do is,
00:53:21Uncle Mike,
00:53:23yes,
00:53:24we always tell in,
00:53:25the news,
00:53:26TV.
00:53:27That's their bad brother.
00:53:29Uncle Mike,
00:53:31said before,
00:53:32take care of us,
00:53:33don't want to look for a girl.
00:53:35Now,
00:53:36already free,
00:53:38feel lucky.
00:53:40So,
00:53:41indeed,
00:53:42as I said,
00:53:43if God really gives fate,
00:53:46no problem.
00:53:47True.
00:53:48But,
00:53:49when it's that old,
00:53:50like this,
00:53:51we're like,
00:53:52lazy.
00:53:53Because,
00:53:54feel like our time with grandchildren,
00:53:56more fun.
00:53:57More,
00:54:00don't have to think about anything.
00:54:01So,
00:54:02back home,
00:54:03when I saw my grandchild,
00:54:04he has,
00:54:06just a call.
00:54:08He called,
00:54:09Ato.
00:54:11So,
00:54:12everything is like,
00:54:15refresh you.
00:54:17So, this is,
00:54:19wonders,
00:54:20of,
00:54:21having grandchildren.
00:54:23With what you've been through,
00:54:25Uncle Mike,
00:54:2618 years,
00:54:27raised them,
00:54:28right?
00:54:31Do you think,
00:54:32seeing,
00:54:33grown-up children now,
00:54:34have grandchildren,
00:54:35they also,
00:54:36married,
00:54:37right?
00:54:40You see,
00:54:41their journey,
00:54:42and,
00:54:43what they're going through now,
00:54:44do you think,
00:54:45everything is paid,
00:54:46your sacrifice,
00:54:47Uncle Mike?
00:54:50When I took care of them,
00:54:52until,
00:54:53last year,
00:54:56I think,
00:54:57never thought,
00:54:59we want an award,
00:55:00we want,
00:55:01what,
00:55:02appreciation,
00:55:03from anyone,
00:55:04or,
00:55:05want to ask for anything,
00:55:06from God.
00:55:07Never,
00:55:10in my head,
00:55:11because,
00:55:12we live our lives,
00:55:14same as other families,
00:55:17grown-up children,
00:55:19then,
00:55:20married,
00:55:21have grandchildren,
00:55:22it goes on,
00:55:23like usual.
00:55:25Even,
00:55:26I think,
00:55:27more than 10 years ago,
00:55:28actually,
00:55:29there are media,
00:55:30want,
00:55:31want the story,
00:55:32but they're still,
00:55:33my children,
00:55:34my children,
00:55:35still in school,
00:55:36so, for me,
00:55:37why make it difficult for them,
00:55:39because,
00:55:40let them concentrate on school.
00:55:42So, I said,
00:55:44no need,
00:55:45we don't even want to think,
00:55:47things like that,
00:55:48because we want to live,
00:55:49as a normal family,
00:55:51until,
00:55:52there's a method,
00:55:53they succeed,
00:55:54with their verse,
00:55:56then,
00:55:59that's it,
00:56:00change,
00:56:01this way,
00:56:02this way,
00:56:04this way,
00:56:07but,
00:56:08I feel like,
00:56:09all this,
00:56:12God's will,
00:56:13so,
00:56:15let's do it,
00:56:17we go,
00:56:18move on.
00:56:19Uncle Mike,
00:56:20sorry,
00:56:21if I want to ask this question,
00:56:23as they grow up,
00:56:24Yelantin,
00:56:25they're all adults,
00:56:27maybe,
00:56:28have they ever joked,
00:56:29to ask Uncle Mike,
00:56:31to convert to Islam?
00:56:32Yes,
00:56:33always,
00:56:35but,
00:56:37yes,
00:56:38I know,
00:56:39Islam is,
00:56:40a very,
00:56:41good religion,
00:56:42and bring us,
00:56:46what,
00:56:47the right religion,
00:56:48the real religion,
00:56:50but,
00:56:52like me,
00:56:55I don't know yet,
00:56:56because,
00:56:58I have my mom,
00:57:00and,
00:57:01like,
00:57:03my mom too,
00:57:04yes,
00:57:05she also,
00:57:06asked too,
00:57:07asked too,
00:57:08but,
00:57:10little by little,
00:57:12I told my mom,
00:57:14what's,
00:57:15what's,
00:57:17the good about,
00:57:18Islam,
00:57:19and then,
00:57:22let her know,
00:57:24how,
00:57:25the real Islam,
00:57:28don't,
00:57:30now,
00:57:31there's a lot,
00:57:32a lot of things,
00:57:34that come up,
00:57:36so,
00:57:37we,
00:57:38just,
00:57:39brief my mom,
00:57:41the true teaching of Islam,
00:57:43is like this,
00:57:44not like this,
00:57:46so,
00:57:47in Islam,
00:57:48like my children,
00:57:49they respect,
00:57:50their grandmothers,
00:57:52they greet,
00:57:53they kiss,
00:57:54they talk slow,
00:57:56never,
00:57:57sorry to say,
00:57:59Islam never taught us,
00:58:00to curse,
00:58:02people,
00:58:03and,
00:58:04and,
00:58:05recently,
00:58:06the,
00:58:07what,
00:58:08cases like,
00:58:09right,
00:58:10beating,
00:58:11that became havoc,
00:58:12right,
00:58:13so,
00:58:14we're sad,
00:58:15to see,
00:58:16how,
00:58:22things like this,
00:58:23make the teaching,
00:58:25worse,
00:58:26actually,
00:58:27so,
00:58:28I,
00:58:31I,
00:58:32my hope,
00:58:33everybody in Malaysia,
00:58:36it doesn't matter,
00:58:37what race,
00:58:38what religion,
00:58:40we show,
00:58:41that religion,
00:58:42teaches us,
00:58:43to be good,
00:58:44so that,
00:58:45we can,
00:58:46live together,
00:58:48and,
00:58:49harmony,
00:58:50what I know is,
00:58:51when we,
00:58:53for example,
00:58:54you as a Muslim,
00:58:55you as this person,
00:58:56if you show,
00:58:58morality,
00:58:59you show,
00:59:01a good way,
00:59:05people will be attracted,
00:59:07to that,
00:59:08will get a good response,
00:59:09get a good response,
00:59:10go to heaven,
00:59:11get rewards,
00:59:13right,
00:59:14so,
00:59:15for me,
00:59:16we,
00:59:17if there's a misunderstanding,
00:59:18about other people,
00:59:19or what,
00:59:21I think we,
00:59:22don't need,
00:59:23like,
00:59:24directly,
00:59:26directly,
00:59:27but,
00:59:29if possible,
00:59:31we fix ourselves,
00:59:33we show,
00:59:35something good,
00:59:37so that,
00:59:39everything will,
00:59:40go smooth,
00:59:42move on,
00:59:43like that.
00:59:44Uncle Mike,
00:59:45in the last mini-meet,
00:59:46maybe one thing,
00:59:47maybe Uncle Mike,
00:59:48can advise too,
00:59:52one thing,
00:59:53that Uncle Mike,
00:59:54learned,
00:59:55from,
00:59:57experience,
00:59:58or,
01:00:00well,
01:00:0118 years,
01:00:02of raising,
01:00:03this kid,
01:00:04Uncle Mike.
01:00:05Okay,
01:00:06I want to tell,
01:00:07you know,
01:00:08at the beginning,
01:00:09I told you,
01:00:10I'm from Jinjang,
01:00:11so,
01:00:12my youthful attitude,
01:00:13is less.
01:00:16Gangster?
01:00:17Gangster,
01:00:18if,
01:00:19like,
01:00:20school days,
01:00:21school days,
01:00:23if,
01:00:24we go,
01:00:25then,
01:00:26Jinjang,
01:00:27many gangsters,
01:00:28sorry Jinjang Folk,
01:00:29back then,
01:00:30now,
01:00:31it's okay,
01:00:32I think.
01:00:33We,
01:00:34walk,
01:00:35to school,
01:00:36so,
01:00:37there's,
01:00:38Pao's feet,
01:00:39Pao's son,
01:00:40money Pao,
01:00:41he doesn't know,
01:00:42so that's you?
01:00:43Our Pao.
01:00:44Okay.
01:00:45So,
01:00:46I want to show,
01:00:47he's from Jinjang,
01:00:48I'm from Jinjang,
01:00:49it's just a bump.
01:00:50Okay.
01:00:51So,
01:00:52yes,
01:00:53back then,
01:00:54we didn't have money,
01:00:55we didn't have money,
01:00:56we only had around,
01:00:5730 cents,
01:00:58or 50 cents,
01:00:59right?
01:01:00So suddenly,
01:01:01you came to ask for money,
01:01:02even though we wanted to get 50 cents,
01:01:04I'm from a very poor family,
01:01:07to get 50 cents,
01:01:08we had to work,
01:01:09cleaning shoes,
01:01:11cleaning shoes,
01:01:12to get money.
01:01:13Yes,
01:01:14so,
01:01:15that's the money,
01:01:16we spent to eat,
01:01:17suddenly,
01:01:18you came to Pao,
01:01:19yes,
01:01:20yes,
01:01:21back then,
01:01:22we didn't think,
01:01:23a gangster,
01:01:24After that, it was hot, it was as hot as the heat of a fire.
01:01:27After that, when I fell in love 2-3 times, it didn't happen.
01:01:35I think all this is because of this.
01:01:39So, until when I met these 3, I had started doing charity, I saw goodness.
01:01:47That is where I met these 3 brothers.
01:01:53That was the time we learned the basics of life.
01:01:58After that, I learned that in Islam, there is a level for orphans.
01:02:06Especially for the orphans.
01:02:08And when we want to educate them, we can't be rough.
01:02:14And we can't beat them.
01:02:19We can't even be rough.
01:02:23If possible, we can do it gently, in a psychological way.
01:02:28That is where I learned to be a challenger.
01:02:33Because I was afraid that I would be thrown into hell fire when we beat the orphans.
01:02:39So, that's how these 3 brothers taught me.
01:02:47They taught me how to be a challenger.
01:02:52And that's how the fire of the Jinjang guy started.
01:03:00No.
01:03:01The gangster.
01:03:02Everything was thrown away.
01:03:03So, I saw that.
01:03:06From that perspective, the goodness that they brought to me,
01:03:15gave me a new perspective.
01:03:20For me, to train myself to be a challenger, a believer, and responsible.
01:03:30That's the most important thing.
01:03:32They changed your life.
01:03:34When we are responsible, our work will be smooth.
01:03:40Why?
01:03:41Because we are responsible.
01:03:44Correct.
01:03:45Meaning, people give us work, we have a responsibility to do the work perfectly.
01:03:54And with trust.
01:03:56Because we take care of these 3, we have to take care of God's trust.
01:03:59Correct.
01:04:00So, all these things came.
01:04:03So, that's how I used to be.
01:04:13I don't know why I used to be hot-tempered.
01:04:15So, I thought about it.
01:04:16Why did I used to be hot-tempered?
01:04:18Maybe because I wanted to protect myself.
01:04:21So, I think even though I gave them happiness,
01:04:29You got it back.
01:04:30Happiness came back to me.
01:04:32The happiness we give to others,
01:04:36that happiness will come back to us.
01:04:38So, this is what I think in our lives.
01:04:47For me, God is great.
01:04:49Correct.
01:04:50He will give us back.
01:04:53But we don't have to.
01:04:55We just did a little.
01:04:56We didn't ask for it.
01:04:57It's forbidden.
01:04:58Right?
01:04:59Like now, I've been with these kids for more than 16 years.
01:05:05I never thought about it.
01:05:07Award, award.
01:05:09I have to be rewarded like this, like that.
01:05:11Yes, until I feel like I don't believe it.
01:05:22Who would have thought that we are just ordinary people.
01:05:26And of course, it's your blessing too, right?
01:05:28Uncle Mike's blessing.
01:05:31Suddenly, like every day,
01:05:36there's an interview, then TV, then radio.
01:05:40No, it's like another chapter.
01:05:46Right.
01:05:47Things that I've never felt, suddenly came.
01:05:51Right.
01:05:52Like that.
01:05:53Anyway, thank you very much.
01:05:58Uncle Mike, before we end,
01:06:04maybe you can say it in front of the camera.
01:06:06If your three children get to watch this program,
01:06:13maybe what words would you like to say to them?
01:06:17Please, Uncle Mike.
01:06:20To Rafi'i, Rashid, and Aman.
01:06:29Uncle Mike said,
01:06:31thank you for coming into my life,
01:06:37giving me inspiration,
01:06:43giving colors to my life.
01:06:51It's like,
01:06:55the color of my life,
01:06:57I feel like I got it.
01:07:03How do I say it?
01:07:07You bring colorful to my life.
01:07:09So, even though sometimes,
01:07:13there are things that make me sad,
01:07:17or I make these three siblings sad.
01:07:21But, this is life.
01:07:23So, when I see them grow up,
01:07:30that is my greatest achievement.
01:07:39Right?
01:07:46Uncle Mike's heart is big, right?
01:07:49Eh, can't I?
01:07:52So, hopefully,
01:07:58one day, when Uncle Mike is gone,
01:08:06he will be good to people without thinking about what he said.
01:08:21Do you love them, Uncle Mike?
01:08:23Yes, I love them.
01:08:25Especially now, my grandson.
01:08:30I think he brings a lot of colors to my life.
01:08:36So, no matter how tired we are at work,
01:08:40when we come home and see him,
01:08:42even though he's sleeping,
01:08:44we feel like,
01:08:48we're blessed, you know?
01:08:49Like, what we've done all this time.
01:08:53So,
01:08:56really,
01:08:58Dexter,
01:09:01for my grandson,
01:09:03Ryan,
01:09:06my life.
01:09:07What do people say?
01:09:10What? Nyawa, nyawa.
01:09:12That's right.
01:09:13Now, I understand why people say,
01:09:16eh, that's my nyawa.
01:09:20My grandson,
01:09:22when we see him, even though we're home,
01:09:24we're tired,
01:09:27when we see him,
01:09:29we will lose everything.
01:09:33It's a medicine.
01:09:34Yes, it's a medicine.
01:09:37If he doesn't see him for a week,
01:09:45I think,
01:09:45even if I don't see him for a week,
01:09:47I don't feel like that.
01:09:51But with my grandson,
01:09:54his voice is always like,
01:09:56he's whining.
01:09:58He's whining,
01:10:00he's complaining,
01:10:01like that.
01:10:02Like, this is life.
01:10:08Uncle Mike, thank you.
01:10:10Because you've shared your story,
01:10:12your feelings with us, right?
01:10:15And one thing I've learned is,
01:10:20it might not be easy, right?
01:10:22No.
01:10:23But,
01:10:25when we do it with a sincere heart,
01:10:30with a big heart,
01:10:31I think,
01:10:33God makes it easier for us.
01:10:35That's right.
01:10:35In whatever way.
01:10:37And I also believe,
01:10:39Uncle Mike has seen the results himself, right?
01:10:42Even though these three children are not Uncle Mike's flesh and blood,
01:10:47but I believe,
01:10:48the love that was poured out,
01:10:52didn't change like Uncle Mike's own flesh and blood, right?
01:10:55Like, what Uncle Mike had,
01:10:59that's what they have, right?
01:11:01What Uncle Mike has,
01:11:02that's what they have too.
01:11:04And we pray,
01:11:06and I believe,
01:11:07those who are watching this too,
01:11:09will continue to pray for Uncle Mike to stay healthy,
01:11:13to be with his children,
01:11:14his grandchildren too, right?
01:11:16And one day,
01:11:18maybe he'll get his share too.
01:11:20Yes.
01:11:21God willing.
01:11:22Thank you, Uncle Mike.
01:11:23And we'll see you again,
01:11:25in Perfection Billy Club.
01:11:26Assalamualaikum.
01:11:29Assalamualaikum.