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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Mohammad Zubair Umar (Politician)
- Muneeb Farooq (Analyst)
- Justice (R) Shahid Jamil Khan
"Faisla Hochuka.... Supreme Court Kay faislay Par Implement Nahi Hona" Muneeb Farooq's Reveals
Maujooda Hukumat Sirf 18 Months ki Mehman...Kiya Hone jaraha hai ? Expert Analysis on Fitch's Report
"Ghulam Sirf Judges ko nahi Puri Qaum ko Kehta Hoon..." Justice (R) Shahid Jamil Khan's Statement
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Mohammad Zubair Umar (Politician)
- Muneeb Farooq (Analyst)
- Justice (R) Shahid Jamil Khan
"Faisla Hochuka.... Supreme Court Kay faislay Par Implement Nahi Hona" Muneeb Farooq's Reveals
Maujooda Hukumat Sirf 18 Months ki Mehman...Kiya Hone jaraha hai ? Expert Analysis on Fitch's Report
"Ghulam Sirf Judges ko nahi Puri Qaum ko Kehta Hoon..." Justice (R) Shahid Jamil Khan's Statement
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NewsTranscript
00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, viewers, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:12First of all, let me introduce the guests.
00:14We have Mohammad Zubair and Muneeb Farooq with us.
00:16Thank you both.
00:17Let's talk about the state of the guests.
00:19I will start with Muneeb.
00:21His statement yesterday was very popular.
00:24Not popular, but it went viral.
00:26He said that the Supreme Court's decision will not be reviewed.
00:31Generally, in a democratic country like Pakistan,
00:36no one can even imagine that such a statement will come from the government
00:41or that such an outburst will be made.
00:43Muneeb Farooq, let me start with you.
00:47As I said, no one can even imagine that such an outburst will be made.
00:52It seems that this will be done generally.
00:57Yes, we don't believe it.
00:59Yes, it won't happen.
01:00Yes, we don't do it.
01:02Do whatever you want to do because we have the power.
01:04We are powerful.
01:06This is not how the country is run.
01:08This is not how the country is run.
01:10Countries have a system.
01:13I remember the dialogue of the movie.
01:17We are, the government is, the police is here.
01:20How will they do it?
01:21What is the name of the movie?
01:23There is a dialogue.
01:24There is a constitution, a law, a Supreme Court.
01:28What are they thinking?
01:30Will it really not be reviewed?
01:35Thank you very much, sir.
01:36Can you hear me?
01:42Muneeb's voice is cut again.
01:43Sir, can you hear me?
01:44Yes, sir.
01:48If you can hear me,
01:51because you referred to a movie.
01:55Before we start,
01:57you may have seen House of Cards.
02:00There is a dialogue in it,
02:05in which Francis Underwood says,
02:09you may have all the money you've got,
02:11but I've got all the boys with guns.
02:13We use this term on a lighter note.
02:18But frankly,
02:20as you said,
02:21this is not the case in most societies.
02:24When a decision is made,
02:25it is followed.
02:27Maximum appeals are made.
02:29Reviews are filed.
02:30But where we are standing,
02:32I don't see this happening here.
02:35And when I say this,
02:38as a journalist,
02:39I am informing you that
02:41this will not be implemented.
02:43And it has already been decided
02:44that it will not be implemented.
02:45I have told you the reason.
02:47When I tried to find the reason,
02:48I found it.
02:50Because the judge has also
02:52crossed his limits.
02:54He has also fallen in love with justice.
02:57So if someone has fallen in love,
02:58then it's okay.
02:59If he hasn't crossed his limits,
03:00then he shouldn't cross his limits either.
03:01So you are saying that
03:02the Supreme Court's decisions are right,
03:06they are in line with the law,
03:07they are in love with someone.
03:09Will the government decide this itself?
03:13Yes.
03:14In my opinion,
03:15when the going gets tough,
03:16the tough gets going.
03:18In my opinion,
03:19this is the story.
03:20This problem does not apply here.
03:24Let's do it.
03:29I am just saying that
03:31you can do it either way.
03:33How and from where
03:35someone uses it.
03:36But in my opinion,
03:38this is the overall situation.
03:40We can only say that
03:41if the Supreme Court's decision
03:43is not followed,
03:44then it is very regrettable.
03:46I can only say that
03:48the political issues in the country,
03:50Mukhtar's involvement in them
03:51is very regrettable.
03:52It should not happen.
03:53But I can say that
03:54if the Supreme Court's decision
03:55is not followed,
03:57then as far as I know,
03:59Mr. Khashoggi must have
04:00also programmed something.
04:02Yes.
04:03He must have said something.
04:05You mean you programmed it?
04:07Yes.
04:08He must have programmed it.
04:09You must have said it.
04:10I said it.
04:11Someone else said it.
04:12Mr. Zubair said it.
04:13But at the end of the day,
04:15finally what happened?
04:17It is in front of you.
04:18Even now,
04:19you and I can say
04:20that this decision is wrong.
04:22It is not in the hands of
04:23respected people.
04:24It is not like this.
04:25It is not like that.
04:26But I am telling you
04:27that if a decision is made
04:28that it has to be like this,
04:29then you and I
04:30can deliberate on it.
04:32It is very wrong.
04:33It is very regrettable.
04:34This is a very worrisome situation.
04:36We are already facing a crisis.
04:37And this should not happen.
04:38But the fact of the matter is
04:39that it is happening
04:40and it is about to happen.
04:41So what can we do
04:42about it?
04:43Sir, it is about to happen.
04:44We are trying.
04:45But now…
04:46Let's put it this way
04:47that we are trying.
04:48The problem is that
04:49there was a time
04:50when elections were to be held
04:51in two mornings.
04:52It was said
04:53that they would not be held.
04:54Obviously,
04:55this is the history
04:56of Pakistan for 76 years.
04:57What is going to happen
04:58does not depend on
04:59what the laws and regulations
05:00say.
05:01What is going to happen
05:02depends on
05:03that.
05:05So,
05:06the problem is
05:07that
05:08Mr. Zubair,
05:09as I said earlier,
05:10there is a rallying point.
05:11There is a way
05:12to run a country.
05:13There are ways
05:14to run a family.
05:15So,
05:16this is the country
05:17that we have to run.
05:18Will this country run
05:19in such a way
05:20that we had to do this?
05:21We got these seats
05:22for it.
05:23Why did you take them back?
05:24Because we have to
05:25run this country.
05:26So,
05:27this is the country
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15:47So,
15:48this is the country
15:49that we have to run.
15:50So,
15:51this is the country
15:52that we have to run.
15:53So,
15:54this is the country
15:55that we have to run.
15:56So,
15:57this is the country
15:58that we have to run.
15:59So,
16:00this is the country
16:01that we have to run.
16:02So,
16:03this is the country
16:04that we have to run.
16:05So,
16:06this is the country
16:07that we have to run.
16:08So,
16:09this is the country
16:10that we have to run.
16:11So,
16:12this is the country
16:13that we have to run.
16:14So,
16:15this is the country
16:16that we have to run.
16:17So,
16:18this is the country
16:19that we have to run.
16:20So,
16:21this is the country
16:22that we have to run.
16:23So,
16:24this is the country
16:25that we have to run.
16:26So,
16:27this is the country
16:28that we have to run.
16:29So,
16:30this is the country
16:31that we have to run.
16:32So,
16:33this is the country
16:34that we have to run.
16:35So,
16:36this is the country
16:37that we have to run.
16:38So,
16:39this is the country
16:40that we have to run.
16:41So,
16:42this is the country
16:43that we have to run.
16:44So,
16:45this is the country
16:46that we have to run.
16:47So,
16:48this is the country
16:49that we have to run.
16:50So,
16:51this is the country
16:52that we have to run.
16:53So,
16:54this is the country
16:55that we have to run.
16:56So,
16:57this is the country
16:58that we have to run.
16:59So,
17:00this is the country
17:01that we have to run.
17:02So,
17:03this is the country
17:04that we have to run.
17:05So,
17:06this is the country
17:07that we have to run.
17:08So,
17:09this is the country
17:10that we have to run.
17:11So,
17:12this is the country
17:13that we have to run.
17:14So,
17:15this is the country
17:16that we have to run.
17:17So,
17:18this is the country
17:19that we have to run.
17:20So,
17:21this is the country
17:22that we have to run.
17:23So,
17:24this is the country
17:25that we have to run.
17:26So,
17:27this is the country
17:28that we have to run.
17:29So,
17:30this is the country
17:31that we have to run.
17:32So,
17:33this is the country
17:34that we have to run.
17:35So,
17:36this is the country
17:37that we have to run.
17:38So,
17:39this is the country
17:40that we have to run.
17:41So,
17:42this is the country
17:43that we have to run.
17:44So,
17:45this is the country
17:46that we have to run.
17:47So,
17:48this is the country
17:49that we have to run.
17:50So,
17:51this is the country
17:52that we have to run.
17:53So,
17:54this is the country
17:55that we have to run.
17:56So,
17:57this is the country
17:58that we have to run.
17:59So,
18:00this is the country
18:01that we have to run.
18:02So,
18:03this is the country
18:04that we have to run.
18:05So,
18:06this is the country
18:07that we have to run.
18:08So,
18:09this is the country
18:10that we have to run.
18:11So,
18:12this is the country
18:13that we have to run.
18:14So,
18:15this is the country
18:16that we have to run.
18:17So,
18:18this is the country
18:19that we have to run.
18:20So,
18:21this is the country
18:22that we have to run.
18:23So,
18:24this is the country
18:25that we have to run.
18:26So,
18:27this is the country
18:28that we have to run.
18:29So,
18:30this is the country
18:31that we have to run.
18:32So,
18:33this is the country
18:34that we have to run.
18:35So,
18:36this is the country
18:37that we have to run.
18:38So,
18:39this is the country
18:40that we have to run.
18:41So,
18:42this is the country
18:43that we have to run.
18:44So,
18:45this is the country
18:46that we have to run.
18:47So,
18:48this is the country
18:49that we have to run.
18:50So,
18:51this is the country
18:52that we have to run.
18:53So,
18:54this is the country
18:55that we have to run.
18:56So,
18:57this is the country
18:58that we have to run.
18:59So,
19:00this is the country
19:01that we have to run.
19:02So,
19:03this is the country
19:04that we have to run.
19:05so at least
19:05this should be debated
19:06And we should
19:07come to a conclusion
19:08Muneeb
19:09Muneeb
19:10Absolutely sir
19:11In Donleagues
19:12In Donleagues
19:13The threat was raised
19:14against Mussolini
19:15and the moon
19:16But I said
19:17this is not national security
19:18I said
19:19I expressed
19:20that I made up my mind
19:21That is why
19:22This is the issue of national security
19:23Natural security
19:24Cannot see
19:25Yes Muneeb
19:26Mr. Zubair
19:28gave a good hint
19:29perception
19:30But
19:31once again
19:32starting with
19:33This is a
19:34Imran Khan did not start this fight that I am fighting a civilian supremacy war and my government has been overthrown and the army or establishment has become against me.
19:43Here the dispute started because why did the establishment leave me alone?
19:48The second dispute was that I have to appoint an army chief of my own free will. I have to sabotage him.
19:53The third dispute was that the 9th of May incident which the army says was an internal coup and Imran Khan was hand in glove.
20:01Now the problem is that I don't have to decide the evidence. There are two such incidents.
20:06You know this and I also know this.
20:08In 2018, Imran Khan was brought to power by Bhairava on his shoulders.
20:13After that, whatever happened was also because of me.
20:15No, no, I agree with you.
20:17See, the politicians have to correct their style of action.
20:22Every politician has to correct their style of action.
20:25The fight is not about getting the establishment out of politics.
20:28The fight in this country, Mr. Zubair, is about why the establishment is not with me.
20:32Why did the establishment leave with him?
20:34This is our fight.
20:36Because of this, all the politicians make lines and say yes, sir.
20:40Because all of them are power politics.
20:44See, Muneeb's answer is absolutely correct.
20:47Muneeb gave the example of 2018 and did everything.
20:49In 2017, the Dawn Leagues that were made, there was no basis for that.
20:54But are we here in a balancing act?
21:00No, we are not. We should not be.
21:24If I had the intelligence to say something wrong, how can I say it right today?
21:31And this should not be my argument.
21:34Today, if we are saying that there should be right decisions, then we should say it right.
21:38If the largest political party in Pakistan is PTI, and it seems that PTI exists,
21:45and it did not get its mandate,
21:47it did not get its mandate in the 2024 elections,
21:50and it did not get any decision of the tribunal in the last 5 months.
21:56If we are accepting that, in 2005, this happened in Musharraf's time, or in 1994,
22:03if we look at those examples, then we should say...
22:05Sir, this is what I agree with you.
22:08It weakens us that we make decisions based on our personal choices,
22:13that 2018 is wrong or 2024 is wrong.
22:16Is the arrest at that time wrong or is the arrest now wrong?
22:19Whatever is wrong is wrong at that time and is wrong today.
22:22If the protest is wrong at that time, it is wrong later too.
22:26If the protest is wrong at that time, it is wrong later too.
22:29But where is the problem?
22:30These things are wrong because the beneficiary makes it acceptable.
22:36And the one who is at the receiving end has a problem,
22:39which is the reason for all these problems.
22:41I would like to take a break. Thank you very much to both the guests.
22:44Justice Shahid Jameel Khan, a former judge of Lahore High Court,
22:49has resigned. We had recorded his interview.
22:52Let's take a break. We will be back after the break.
22:57We have Justice Shahid Jameel Khan with us.
22:59Justice retired Shahid Jameel Khan.
23:01You resigned on February 2, 2024.
23:05Yes.
23:06And this was the time when Ijaz-ul-Ahsan also resigned.
23:11During this time, Muzari Naqvi also resigned.
23:15So there was a lot of debate about what happened.
23:17And your poetry threw more oil on that debate.
23:21The poetry that you wrote, Iqbal's poetry, Ghulam, Mehkoom.
23:25I remembered Tipu Sultan after reading the first part.
23:28Azad Ki Kaan Hai, Mehkoom Ka Ek Saal Ke,
23:31Sher Ki Ek Din Ki Zindagi, Gidar Ki Sau Sala Zindagi Se Betar.
23:34What were the pressures that led you to resign?
23:37First of all, I wanted to resign before them.
23:44So when Muzari Akbar Naqvi and Ijaz-ul-Ahsan resigned,
23:51I penned my resignation.
23:55So that you don't get stuck with them.
23:58So that I don't get stuck with them.
24:00And I was advised by my friends,
24:03whom I already told that I am resigning.
24:06I was already planning to resign for 2-3 months.
24:10So the reason was completely different from the resignation from the Supreme Court.
24:16Yes, it was completely different from that.
24:18It was completely different from that.
24:20The reason was, people use the word pressure.
24:25There was no such pressure, no external pressure.
24:28The system had become so rigid.
24:34The way our High Court was being run,
24:38and the way we were being questioned externally,
24:44even my family, my children,
24:47used to sit in the living room and ask me,
24:49Baba, what is this?
24:51What kind of decisions are these?
24:53So you can't justify that.
24:56But this happened during the time of one Chief Justice,
24:59because this debate, I remember, started
25:01when 6 judges wrote a letter,
25:03Qazi Faiza Sahib was talking about internal pressures.
25:06The other judge, Khasoo Sanatan Minala Sahib,
25:09he used to talk in the context of that letter,
25:11how the cameras of the judges of Islamabad High Court were set up,
25:15how their families were picked up.
25:18So that was one pressure.
25:19But Faiza Sahib used to talk about internal pressures too.
25:22You are talking about that internal pressure,
25:24the atmosphere within the court.
25:27The atmosphere within the court,
25:29maybe the way I understand pressure,
25:32is that somebody pressurizes you
25:35to make this decision and not that decision.
25:39Alhamdulillah, there is no such thing.
25:41I never took any such...
25:44First of all, no one ever approached me,
25:46I speak for myself, for this work.
25:50If someone tacitly comes to you as a law officer
25:53and says something,
25:54tells you about the compulsion of the government,
25:55that you should look at this, look at that,
25:57or someone indirectly approaches you
26:00through a relative,
26:03those incidents keep happening.
26:05You know, being a judge, how to tackle that.
26:07But it is not...
26:08So there are more pressures through relatives, right?
26:10Yes, through relatives.
26:11Because even after the letter of Islamabad High Court,
26:13it was found that relatives are approached.
26:15In fact, the judge of Sargodha said
26:17that my family is sent questionnaires about me.
26:20Absolutely, they are approached.
26:22I was listening to the case of Sugar.
26:25When the scam of Sugar came,
26:29I got the case.
26:31I made a whole mechanism of price fixation.
26:35And our law was an essential commodities law of 1958.
26:40It was dominant.
26:42It was also of the province.
26:44So I made rules in it
26:46and made a whole mechanism of it.
26:48So from there,
26:50at that time,
26:51I don't want to take your name on national TV,
26:54things will become more controversial.
26:57Right from the top,
26:59man's relative,
27:01who may be my relative,
27:03maybe not,
27:04definitely,
27:05so he called my mother.
27:09He called my younger brother.
27:11I went to meet my mother on the weekend.
27:13He said,
27:15take his name and listen to his issue.
27:17You don't even listen to his phone.
27:19So that was one of the tycoons of Sugar Mills.
27:25He wanted to...
27:27Tell me his name, sir.
27:28I think,
27:29keep it for later.
27:31Who can be the tycoon of Sugar Mills?
27:33Maybe the sugar mills of the Sharif family,
27:35or of Mr. Jangeet Reen.
27:37Your...
27:38Okay, Mr. Jangeet Reen.
27:40Okay.
27:41So,
27:42they try to approach you in this way.
27:45There are many ways.
27:47So,
27:48they keep coming.
27:49This is nothing new.
27:51Our,
27:52brother Kashif,
27:53what I have seen sitting there,
27:55our social fabric,
27:57of this nation,
27:59has become so bad,
28:01that nobody believes in merit.
28:03If you tell someone,
28:05that your case is correct,
28:07and
28:08if you argue with a good lawyer,
28:10it will be done.
28:11Nobody believes.
28:12Today, I have come out,
28:14many people,
28:15again,
28:18a big business group approached me,
28:20for my legal services.
28:22And,
28:23by approaching me,
28:25what happens in the middle,
28:28that,
28:29my colleagues are sitting in the Supreme Court,
28:32if a case is filed there,
28:34in a particular place,
28:36then,
28:37I somehow influence them,
28:38and give them relief.
28:39Till now,
28:40all the Supreme Courts,
28:41and other High Courts,
28:42cases that have come to me,
28:43are these only.
28:44I answer them,
28:46that,
28:47brother,
28:48if I had to do this work,
28:49then,
28:50why would I leave my 4 years,
28:51I would have done it sitting inside,
28:52I would have got constitutional protection.
28:54Now,
28:55I have come out,
28:56to do this work.
28:57If you want to make money,
28:58you can do it from inside.
28:59So,
29:00I would have been more comfortable there,
29:01to make money.
29:02My,
29:03my identity is Lahore High Court.
29:05I am a lawyer,
29:06or a judge.
29:07If,
29:08the name of Lahore High Court,
29:09is getting spoilt,
29:10then,
29:11I have a problem,
29:12and this was the problem.
29:13People are telling me,
29:14that I,
29:15Mir Bhatti sir,
29:16You have called them slaves,
29:17you have called them slaves,
29:18haven't you?
29:19Slave,
29:20I call the whole nation.
29:21Slave,
29:22doesn't mean,
29:23that you have a handcuff,
29:24that you have shackles in your feet.
29:26Slave,
29:27means,
29:28your mental slavery.
29:29I,
29:30want to give one message,
29:31through my resignation,
29:32that I have given,
29:34whether it has reached further or not,
29:36that's another thing,
29:37that,
29:38you will not leave this government job,
29:40and your life will not end.
29:42Only,
29:43the people who open doors in front of me,
29:45and salute me,
29:46those people will not remain.
29:48Monetarily,
29:49I will be a lawyer,
29:50I have more money.
29:51And,
29:52we need such judges.
29:54I am sorry.
29:55What kind of judges are there now?
29:57I will tell you the second thing,
29:59I think,
30:00these six judges,
30:01who have written this letter,
30:03I will come to that side.
30:05Each one of them,
30:07institution requires them,
30:09they don't require,
30:11this,
30:12I will call it a job,
30:14it is a constitutional court.
30:16Today,
30:17they will come out,
30:18they will be well off,
30:19they will have cases,
30:20their practice will work.
30:21When we bring such people,
30:23who are afraid of jobs,
30:25not only in judiciary,
30:28everywhere.
30:29There are two types of people,
30:31I have observed,
30:33one type are those,
30:34who are sitting in the lucrative post,
30:36or the main post,
30:38and they don't speak the truth,
30:40because their job will be lost.
30:42Another type are those people,
30:44who aspire for those jobs,
30:46and are sitting outside,
30:47they don't speak the truth,
30:49because we can't elevate there.
30:51It is not for the judiciary.
30:53So, you are saying,
30:54the judges of Islamabad High Court,
30:55they don't need jobs,
30:56they are strong people.
30:57And,
30:58we need such judges.
31:01Who are independent.
31:02You don't want slaves.
31:03We don't want mental slaves.
31:05You think,
31:06there are some problems in the court.
31:08Because,
31:09you had a fight with the Chief Justice,
31:11who was your Chief Justice.
31:13With Ameer Bhatti,
31:15not only with Ameer Bhatti,
31:17I had a fight with Qasim Khan.
31:19Before him,
31:20there was Shamim,
31:21he was a decent man,
31:22he didn't confront directly.
31:24But,
31:25here,
31:26in the High Court,
31:27something is going wrong.
31:29So,
31:30I used to sit for tea,
31:31I used to speak in meetings,
31:32to address these things.
31:34Now,
31:35one,
31:36but,
31:37that,
31:38in front of the Chief,
31:40or in front of any
31:41Helm of Affair,
31:43when you tell him,
31:45whether they are our politicians,
31:47or our bureaucrats,
31:49or judges,
31:50or generals,
31:51you tell someone,
31:52that you are doing this wrong,
31:54it is very difficult to digest that.
31:56What was he doing wrong?
31:57You had a fight with him.
31:58That,
31:59to save his son-in-law,
32:00he ruined the system.
32:02Is this right?
32:04One,
32:05you may remember,
32:06there was a clip,
32:08in which,
32:09he took the name of
32:10Nazahir Naqvi.
32:12He was
32:14Mohammad Khan Bhatti.
32:16Principal Secretary of
32:17Parvez Alai.
32:19He was absent for a while.
32:20Suddenly,
32:21he appeared.
32:22He appeared and
32:23he had a clip.
32:24In the clip,
32:25he had
32:26a specific role
32:27attributed.
32:28And he told
32:29that,
32:30he does this,
32:31he does that.
32:32High Court is being
32:33managed like this.
32:34Chief's son-in-law
32:35is doing this.
32:36At the end,
32:37before the clip
32:38ended,
32:39he asked,
32:40do you have any
32:41relationship with
32:42any other judge?
32:43He said,
32:44one of my witnesses
32:45is with Jameel.
32:46His son and
32:47my son are
32:48class fellows.
32:49One of my witnesses
32:50is with Gareem.
32:51There,
32:52the clip ends.
32:53I did not have
32:54any role
32:55attributed
32:56to him.
32:57I did not have
32:58any role
32:59attributed to him.
33:00I did not have
33:01any role
33:02attributed to him.
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33:04any role
33:05attributed to him.
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33:10any role
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51:40any role
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51:42I did not have
51:43any role
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51:45I did not have
51:46any role
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51:48I did not have
51:49any role
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51:51I did not have
51:52any role
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51:54I did not have
51:55any role
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51:57I did not have
51:58any role
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52:00I did not have
52:01any role
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52:03I did not have
52:04any role
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52:06I did not have
52:07any role
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52:09I did not have
52:10any role
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52:12I did not have
52:13any role
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