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00:04 Hi, welcome to Sembang Atas Dulang Season 2 with me, Sedy, brought to you by Spritzer!
00:11 Extracted from the ground from the source of water, it is now a rich and rich mineral silica.
00:17 Introduce yourself to Spritzer!
00:20 Okay, so today I have, oh this is a long title, because she is a singer, songwriter, performer, performer coach, what else?
00:32 Dance teacher, podcast host, Malaysian Rihanna, that's Riri!
00:41 But today I have Mimi! Mimi Fly!
00:45 What's up, Sedy!
00:47 Mimi, thank you, thank you so much!
00:50 Thank you for having me!
00:51 Because today I am very starstruck, because Mimi Fly is not an ordinary person, Mimi Fly is a legend!
01:02 Actually, if I go through your profile, you have done it all.
01:08 You were in a group, you were in a big stage, right?
01:14 Big stage or Gagal Vaganza? Gagal Vaganza!
01:18 Yes, because that's what happens when we are in the industry for 15 years.
01:22 That's why I say, legend!
01:24 Wow, legendary!
01:26 Some people don't like the term legend because they think that name is for people who have passed away, but that's not the truth!
01:33 Oh, she's not for people who have passed away, she's a living legend!
01:36 Yes, living legend Mimi Fly!
01:39 Okay, so speaking of living, today I may not live through the night.
01:46 Because on this dulang, we have spicy food!
01:51 Is that the topic for today? Spicy?
01:53 Spicy! Mimi wants to answer spicy questions!
01:57 Are you a fan of spicy food?
01:58 Oh yes, I am!
01:59 She's a fan of spicy food!
02:00 I'm the one who died first!
02:02 Oh, you don't eat spicy food?
02:03 I don't eat spicy food!
02:05 That's true, because I saw your videos, you don't even like spicy food.
02:09 I'm like, come on, Fedi, you can do that!
02:11 Do you know that people say that I'm not a real food reviewer because I don't eat spicy food?
02:15 I would say, sorry!
02:17 That's not a good thing to say!
02:18 It's up to her if she doesn't like spicy food!
02:20 Yes, if my tongue is numb, I can't taste anything, what's the point?
02:24 If she has to go to the toilet and have her tongue torn, there's no need to let her eat spicy food!
02:28 That's right!
02:29 But we'll try, because she looks delicious!
02:31 The thing about spicy food is, do you realize that they all look good?
02:34 Yes, I like ramen, I want to try ramen.
02:36 You try ramen, I'll just take the egg.
02:38 I'm not going to eat it!
02:40 Sorry, I don't want to!
02:42 Look, even the egg is already spicy.
02:45 But, okay, okay.
02:47 So, we eat and then we answer the question?
02:50 Just eat, don't worry.
02:51 Oh my god.
02:59 Is it good?
03:00 Oh my god.
03:01 It's so good.
03:02 I don't trust anyone who says it's good, or spicy food is good.
03:06 Oh my god, it's so good.
03:08 It's so, so good.
03:11 What is this?
03:12 Samyang.
03:15 It's so, so good, Teddy.
03:17 But, you got it because of Nura's hand gesture!
03:21 Yes, Nura!
03:22 She did it herself!
03:24 Nura's choice is amazing, it's really good.
03:26 It's so good.
03:27 It's not spicy, we have Spritzer.
03:36 Yes!
03:37 Oh my god, wow.
03:39 This is good!
03:40 Really?
03:41 It's good, it's good.
03:43 For those who like spicy food, Nura, thank you so much.
03:46 I'm hungry, I just finished my dance class.
03:50 Mmm.
03:51 Mmm.
03:53 Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm.
03:56 See, you know right, there's one show where they ask celebrities to eat the hot wings.
04:04 Yeah.
04:05 How do you not be nervous?
04:07 You'll be very calm because you're like, "Umm, okay."
04:09 But if you watch that show, it's really spicy.
04:13 We should do one, but I cannot be the host.
04:15 I think I'll die.
04:18 Yeah, if I ask you to eat.
04:19 If you're the host, it's like you're only halfway through.
04:22 You're not even there.
04:24 That's true, that's true.
04:25 So, Mimi, while you enjoy the food, I want to ask you something.
04:27 Because you've been in this industry for 15 years.
04:30 Mmm.
04:31 You have seen the industry's changes.
04:34 You know?
04:36 Yes.
04:37 So, because our topic is spicy, I want to ask you for hot takes later.
04:42 Okay.
04:43 Yeah, that's true.
04:44 When I started, I still sold CDs.
04:47 Oi!
04:48 To the Gen Z people who are watching this, CDs are...
04:52 Let me explain.
04:53 Yes, please.
04:54 CDs are round like this.
04:56 Okay?
04:57 And there's a circle in the middle.
04:59 It's silver.
05:00 Okay?
05:01 And then it's wrapped in a plastic bag.
05:03 The plastic bag has a cover.
05:06 And we'll photoshop the cover.
05:08 We'll print it and put it there.
05:10 Mmm.
05:11 So, we have a physical album distribution.
05:16 It's not just sold on the internet.
05:18 We can sell CDs when we go to shows.
05:21 Is that true?
05:22 Yes.
05:23 It was during those times.
05:25 And then we also sold on social media.
05:28 It's not there.
05:29 It was only on Facebook.
05:31 Facebook.
05:32 Friendster.
05:33 We were in the Friendster era.
05:34 Oh my God.
05:35 MySpace.
05:36 It was only on Friendster and MySpace.
05:37 MySpace.
05:38 Yes.
05:39 So, you all don't know.
05:40 I think some Gen Z people don't know what a CD is.
05:44 Yeah.
05:45 You all would know about Spotify, Apple.
05:47 Those are the platforms where you can listen to Sjok's podcast.
05:50 For sure.
05:51 But, back then, it was CDs.
05:52 Yes.
05:53 It was CDs.
05:54 It was CDs.
05:55 It was going to shows at shopping malls.
05:58 Mmm.
05:59 Like, you know, we met a lot of mid and greats.
06:03 And, it was fun at that time.
06:06 Because, you know, we weren't always on the phone.
06:09 Yeah.
06:10 But, back then, it was closer.
06:13 For example, if we meet someone, our fans.
06:18 Our fans would bring us a picture of them before this.
06:23 Yes.
06:24 For us to sign.
06:25 So, it was personal, you know.
06:27 Now, I think if you ask them to print, they would say, "We have to save the planet.
06:30 We can't print."
06:31 We only have digital.
06:33 So, we can…
06:34 If someone comes here, I would know that they are from my generation.
06:39 Yeah.
06:40 But, this generation is like…
06:42 Can you sign?
06:43 I send you a document to sign.
06:45 You just tap here.
06:46 I got Mimi Fly's autograph.
06:49 Document signed.
06:50 Yeah, man.
06:52 So, you came from the CD era.
06:55 Yeah.
06:56 I can relate because we are almost the same age.
06:58 So, yeah.
06:59 It was fun.
07:00 It was fun.
07:01 Was it hard back then?
07:03 Everything is hard.
07:04 Even now, it's still hard.
07:06 I mean, I don't…
07:08 I want to ask you a hot take.
07:09 I know.
07:10 I want to ask you a hot take.
07:11 Do you think kids in the music industry now have it easy?
07:14 No.
07:15 No?
07:16 No.
07:17 Oh.
07:18 You think it's easy.
07:19 Wait.
07:20 Wait.
07:21 Wait till a few years and you realize.
07:22 Oh my.
07:23 Why?
07:24 Explain.
07:25 Because whatever right now that we…
07:26 In music, how do I say this?
07:30 You don't have full control.
07:33 So, you've been doing a lot of mistakes.
07:37 But you don't realize these mistakes until years later.
07:41 So, you know.
07:42 Plus, to be in the music industry, it's never easy.
07:50 Never easy.
07:51 Whatever I went through before is hard.
07:54 The current generation also goes through hard times.
07:58 But it's their generation.
08:00 You know?
08:01 Right?
08:02 Yeah.
08:03 Because these days, what I saw is the record labels.
08:06 They are pushing influencers to become singers.
08:10 Right.
08:11 Cool.
08:12 All the best.
08:13 Is that a sincere thing?
08:15 Yeah, it is sincere.
08:16 All the best.
08:17 All the best.
08:18 Because I have a few friends who have millions of followers.
08:22 Then, suddenly, they announce they are rappers and singers.
08:26 To me, I'm not the kind that want to discourage people.
08:29 I hope and dream.
08:30 Because let's be real here.
08:31 I've dreamt of becoming a singer, rapper.
08:38 Last time, I listened to Leokim.
08:40 Wow.
08:41 Gangster.
08:42 Nasty.
08:43 That's why I listen to the rap songs now.
08:46 What?
08:47 What?
08:48 Today, I listen to Mimi Fla.
08:51 What are you saying?
08:52 Enunciate.
08:53 You know?
08:54 And then, I was like.
08:56 My friends, to me, you want to be a rapper or a singer, it's okay.
09:02 But record labels, please send some of them to singing class or vocal training.
09:08 Yeah, for real.
09:09 Like, what is this?
09:10 If we.
09:11 I am not the kind.
09:13 Because I'm a teacher, you know.
09:15 So, I teach.
09:16 I'm not the kind that will be like.
09:18 Don't do this.
09:19 Yeah, like don't do it.
09:20 You don't deserve it.
09:21 You don't deserve this stage or anything.
09:23 It's not the kind.
09:24 But, you know, if you really have passion, right.
09:27 You must understand, like.
09:29 You have to work hard.
09:31 Yeah.
09:32 And people see it.
09:33 People see through your hard work.
09:34 If you just come because you feel like.
09:37 Oh, record labels like you.
09:39 And because you have a lot of followers.
09:41 Yeah.
09:42 They're going to rip you.
09:43 They're going to use you.
09:45 And then, when you don't have anything to give anymore.
09:48 They're just going to leave you dry.
09:50 So, you know.
09:51 It's really up to artists to really work hard.
09:54 And certain things like that.
09:57 I think young artists need to realize that.
10:00 They need to realize it quickly.
10:01 Are you part of any record label now?
10:03 No.
10:04 I'm indie since day one.
10:06 Day one until now.
10:07 Yes.
10:08 Congratulations.
10:09 Yeah, because when I first started.
10:10 When I joined the competition.
10:14 And then, this competition in 2008, okay.
10:17 So, 2008.
10:18 We won that competition.
10:19 Yes.
10:20 And then, we won the competition.
10:23 That very money that we have.
10:24 We set up the company to...
10:26 Manage yourself.
10:28 Manage ourselves.
10:29 So, we did it ourselves.
10:30 And I learnt a lot through learning to be an independent artist from the get-go.
10:36 So, that's how I learnt all the things that I know now.
10:40 Like that, right?
10:41 And the thing is...
10:43 When we started to enter the industry.
10:47 You're going to make mistakes.
10:49 Because you've just started, right?
10:51 But then, there's this thing.
10:52 You need to know, you need to persevere.
10:54 You need to know, you need to go on and keep on.
10:57 And if you can go for another 15 years, go for it.
11:01 You know?
11:02 But you can't stop.
11:04 You can't give up.
11:05 You don't ever, ever give up.
11:06 Just now, you said, you mentioned like...
11:08 When you enter the industry, you're going to make mistakes.
11:11 What are the mistakes that you've done?
11:13 Believing in the wrong people.
11:15 Being lied to.
11:16 Being taken money from.
11:19 People took your money and you didn't notice.
11:21 Because you're working.
11:22 You know?
11:23 Like when you're an artist, you're like...
11:25 When you're an artist, your work is on stage, on stage, on stage.
11:28 If you neglect your off-stage deal, you know?
11:31 Things that...
11:33 You know, things that you need to take care of but you don't have time because you're busy.
11:37 Because you're famous and busy.
11:39 And then, you just find out the people that you trust.
11:43 Actually...
11:44 So, that happened to you?
11:45 Yeah, things like this happen.
11:47 Things like this happen.
11:48 And I don't know if...
11:50 If I were to say, this thing happened to me.
11:54 No, no.
11:55 It happened to almost everybody in the industry that I know.
11:58 Because this is the reality of the industry.
12:01 You need to...
12:03 If you meet a team that really believes in you, Alhamdulillah, good for you.
12:08 Because there's a lot of snakes out there.
12:10 Just saying.
12:11 Too dear.
12:12 I'm supposed to ask you hot takes and you've given everything to me.
12:16 And I gave it to you in a cheesy way, right?
12:19 No need to be cheesy. Just go all out.
12:21 We're on a podcast. We don't have filters.
12:23 I mean, we have a little bit.
12:25 If not, our producer will be confused.
12:27 He'll be like, "Oh my God."
12:28 He'll cry on the side.
12:29 He'll cry on the side.
12:30 So, what are the advice you can give to the young...
12:34 When I say young, I'm not saying you're old.
12:36 I'm not old.
12:37 You're experienced.
12:38 I'm not old but I'm still young in spirit.
12:41 Yes. Oh my God.
12:42 If you watched the last season, we had a guest, Khoaine Ramlee.
12:47 If you watch her videos, she's in the show too.
12:50 Dancing, dancing.
12:51 Two of them.
12:52 Walk together.
12:53 That's why I said I have to have you on the show.
12:55 Because you're crazy too.
12:56 Same vibe.
12:57 She's the best.
12:59 When I met Aine, I felt like, "Wow, I met someone who's as real as me."
13:05 It's so rare in this industry.
13:07 So rare.
13:08 People who are not in the industry are fake.
13:10 Yes. Oh my God.
13:11 Don't think she's nice.
13:14 I love you.
13:16 Oh my God.
13:17 Actually...
13:18 Actually, she's secretly hating.
13:22 And she doesn't like it when you're overreacting.
13:25 Take care of her.
13:26 There are people like this.
13:28 Yes.
13:29 I'm actually like this.
13:30 You're like this?
13:31 I didn't expect you to be like this.
13:36 It's a confession.
13:37 This is a confession when you're laughing.
13:40 Another podcast.
13:42 Please watch that one.
13:44 Support that episode.
13:45 Because for me, I'm not in the music industry or the entertainment industry.
13:51 But I'm mostly in the influencer scene.
13:55 Right.
13:56 And you're good at it.
13:57 I love you.
13:58 Remember when I said I love you?
13:59 Do you remember?
14:00 I know.
14:01 We met the first time officially at the beauty...
14:05 Yes, some beauty event.
14:07 Yes, some beauty event.
14:08 When I messaged you on Instagram or I commented on your Instagram, you said I love you.
14:12 Remember?
14:13 But I don't know whether it's real or not.
14:14 So, say it again.
14:15 I love you.
14:16 Thank you so much.
14:17 You're like this.
14:18 This is what I like.
14:20 But you're like this.
14:22 How I see you now and backstage...
14:25 It's the same.
14:26 You're the same.
14:27 This one is rare.
14:28 To me, I approach people with sincerity.
14:32 If I vibe with you, I vibe with you.
14:34 Yes, that's right.
14:35 If I don't like you, I won't go all the way to be like, "Hi, Mimi. I love you."
14:41 Right.
14:42 No.
14:43 Yes.
14:44 Don't be fake with your friends.
14:46 But in the industry, there's a lot.
14:47 There's a lot.
14:48 There's a lot.
14:49 It's too much.
14:50 And then, especially if we're around the same age, we can see all your BS.
14:57 Oh my god.
14:58 We can see.
14:59 Yes.
15:00 If you're not sincere or you like to...
15:03 We can see through body language.
15:06 If you're insecure, we can see your behaviour.
15:10 But if you're someone who's been around for a long time, you'll be like...
15:14 Yes.
15:15 But do you feel lonely?
15:18 Oh, yes.
15:19 This is a lonely scene.
15:22 Yes, it's lonely.
15:24 But through loneliness, you get wise.
15:28 You get mature and gain knowledge.
15:33 I think when I was alone, at first, I was afraid of being alone.
15:39 I was depressed.
15:41 But now, I'm enjoying my alone time.
15:45 When I get my alone time, I'm like, "Thank you very much."
15:48 It's so weird.
15:49 Are you an extrovert or an introvert?
15:51 I'm like, maybe both.
15:54 Both?
15:55 Actually, when I asked her if she was lonely, she didn't mean that she didn't have a lover.
16:02 That's not what we meant.
16:03 I think what we're saying is that in this industry, you don't know who to trust.
16:10 That's one thing.
16:11 If we tell people, they won't understand.
16:14 That's it.
16:15 Yes.
16:16 So, she became lonely because of that.
16:17 Because this is our life experience.
16:21 Other people who don't go through that experience, they don't understand.
16:25 They don't understand.
16:26 Even if we tell them, they won't understand.
16:29 Sometimes, we don't want to give advice.
16:31 We just want to share our experience.
16:33 But when people try to relate, they don't know.
16:37 They just listen.
16:39 But when we meet people in the industry, they understand us.
16:46 I have sisters in this industry who make me feel like, "This is good. I'm actually good."
16:56 Because we're the ones who go through that experience.
17:02 Sometimes, we're afraid to make a decision.
17:05 Yes.
17:06 That's how it is.
17:08 Who can we talk to about this or that decision?
17:12 But you can learn from the beginning.
17:16 But eventually, you'll meet people who can help you to achieve your goals.
17:23 I like the relate part.
17:25 Sometimes, I feel like when you said loneliness because people won't relate to you, it's true.
17:29 How do I say this to my friend who's frustrated because of an artist who's good-looking.
17:37 She can get a lot of jobs.
17:39 She can disrespect people.
17:40 She likes to cancel people.
17:41 But she can still get more jobs.
17:43 She doesn't have repercussions.
17:45 There are people like that.
17:47 How can people understand if I say, "I was doing a rehearsal and I had a good sound."
17:53 "But when I went on a live show, I suddenly lost my sound."
17:55 "I thought I had a terrible sound, but I didn't blame the sound."
17:58 Yes.
17:59 Who can relate to that?
18:00 No one.
18:01 Only other artists.
18:02 You're the only one who's affected by that.
18:05 But other artists, you're afraid to tell them that they don't like you.
18:09 Then, you'll be like, "Oh my God!"
18:11 If we tell them, they'll be like, "Yes, you're right."
18:14 They'll be like, "Who told her to do a better performance than me?"
18:18 I'm not saying that.
18:19 But I'm positive.
18:23 Yes.
18:24 I consider myself that when something happens, I always find that I can flip it to make it a good lesson for me.
18:36 How do you have that mentality?
18:38 I have that mentality because of my mom.
18:40 My mom couldn't walk since she was born.
18:43 She had to use a wheelchair.
18:47 But my mom was the head of the RTM.
18:51 She was the boss.
18:54 She studied overseas.
18:57 Even though she was a hard worker, she was a role model for hard workers.
19:03 My mom taught me that if I felt uncomfortable, I should look at my mom.
19:09 If I felt uncomfortable, I should look at my mom.
19:12 Every time I felt uncomfortable, I would think, "I can't do that."
19:16 Because I remember my mom.
19:17 My mom always reminds me that if I felt uncomfortable, I should imagine what others feel.
19:22 If I felt more uncomfortable than others, my mom would remind me of that.
19:25 I think that's what I've been practicing since I was young.
19:29 I've known that since I was young.
19:30 I've been independent since I was young.
19:32 I wouldn't ask my mom to do what other mothers do.
19:36 My mom couldn't walk.
19:38 She didn't have...
19:40 We wouldn't help her when she cooked.
19:43 I've learned to have empathy since I was young.
19:47 Because I learned to have empathy, even if others treated me badly, I would understand.
19:51 I understand.
19:54 But you're not ready.
19:56 I won't give you my energy again.
19:58 But I understand.
20:00 I understand.
20:01 You're a broken person.
20:03 I hurt people.
20:05 I understand.
20:07 Is that why you started your podcast?
20:09 Oh, yes.
20:10 I think that podcast that I created...
20:13 You told me that you can plug it.
20:15 Right.
20:16 I hosted and created this podcast called "Tenang is Good".
20:19 We talked about internal stuff.
20:24 We talked about our self-image.
20:27 How we view ourselves.
20:29 How we think.
20:30 Mental health condition.
20:31 What tools we use.
20:35 I brought my friends to talk about how they handle this and that.
20:43 I think we don't talk about that a lot.
20:47 We always talk about how we fight with each other.
20:51 And how we get stressed.
20:53 But we don't ask ourselves why we get stressed.
20:57 Is it because of our own insecurities?
21:01 Or is it because we're attracted to this?
21:03 Because we're actually like that.
21:05 When we see people being like that, is it because they're really like that?
21:08 Or is it because you're actually like that?
21:10 That's deep.
21:12 But I think you're a champion of mental health.
21:16 Yes.
21:17 Do you have a therapist?
21:18 I do.
21:19 Oh my God.
21:20 Same.
21:21 It's great to have a therapist.
21:22 Because if my friends can't relate, it's okay.
21:25 It's okay.
21:26 You're our therapist.
21:28 I tell my therapist everything.
21:30 Everything.
21:31 If my netizens disturb me, I'll just tell them.
21:33 Oh my God.
21:34 I feel like...
21:35 Every single thing.
21:36 Every single thing.
21:37 And I'm glad that you're doing that podcast.
21:38 Because I want to make sure that the stigma is gone.
21:43 Especially, I will just be very honest.
21:46 I feel like in the Muslim community, it's not very well received.
21:50 The conversation about psychological health.
21:53 Because people say that you'll find a master in a short period of time.
21:56 Right.
21:57 And I think...
21:58 I mean, the spiritual part is true.
22:00 But I feel like therapies are still important.
22:03 Therapies are about the mind.
22:05 Yes.
22:06 So, spiritual is spiritual.
22:09 Yes.
22:10 It's not the same.
22:11 But when we talk about meditation, how we train our mind to think...
22:19 ...is something that we don't see.
22:24 So, spiritual is true.
22:26 We need a master and a therapist.
22:28 I believe in that. -Yes.
22:30 But when it comes to meditation, if anything happens...
22:34 ...and you let it go on, it affects your physical body.
22:38 Meaning, you might get a panic attack.
22:41 You might hear a different voice in your brain.
22:45 You might feel like there's a different identity in your brain...
22:49 ...if you let it go on.
22:51 These things are only because we suppress them.
22:55 We hold back our brain or we don't try to find out what's really happening.
23:03 We just keep it shut.
23:06 That's the story.
23:10 When we suppress our problems, we let them be.
23:16 We create a different identity in front of us.
23:19 When we meet people, we wear a mask.
23:21 But when we sit behind them, we become more distant from our true selves.
23:28 And that will affect you.
23:30 That will affect us if we don't take care of ourselves.
23:32 That's why we can only rent from our friends.
23:37 But if we rent from a professional like a therapist, they can help.
23:42 Do you know when there's a thread that's tangled?
23:48 The therapist can pull it out and tell you which department it is.
23:53 This is the family department. This is the childhood department.
23:57 This is the toxic relationship department that keeps coming back to you...
24:02 ...and you can't get rid of.
24:04 This is what helps you make decisions.
24:09 We make decisions every day.
24:12 We can't make the same decisions and end up with the same results.
24:16 If we want to change our lives, we have to take charge.
24:21 Own it. Own it, guys.
24:24 It's easy to say, but it's not easy to do.
24:27 When you go and see a therapist, I want to give you an advice.
24:31 Don't think that they will judge you.
24:34 Let's be real here.
24:36 We all judge everyone.
24:38 But their job is not to judge you.
24:41 Maybe they're hard, but their job is to help you.
24:45 But they're professionals.
24:48 I can't wait for you to come to me.
24:51 You can tell your friends.
24:52 Your friends will look at you like, "Okay."
24:54 But deep down, they'll be like, "That's you."
24:57 "What does it have to do with me?"
24:59 But as a therapist, you can give everything to me.
25:02 They'll correct you.
25:04 "So, you think that's how it is?"
25:06 "Why do you think it's like that?"
25:08 "I don't know. Maybe it's because..."
25:11 We can be like, "I can do this on my own."
25:18 "I complained about the red flag, but now I'm the red flag."
25:23 That's the revelation.
25:25 That's the real reason for therapy.
25:28 That's the problem.
25:29 Because at the end of the day, we're 100% responsible for what happens to us.
25:35 We're just us.
25:37 We can't blame others.
25:39 So, if we keep blaming others until we know it's our fault,
25:44 you'll become a narcissist.
25:47 Yes, it's true.
25:48 I got into therapy because they didn't know my gender.
25:52 They asked me if I was a man or a woman.
25:54 I always knew it.
25:56 I was a man or a woman.
25:58 Some people told me that because they thought I was a narcissist.
26:03 That's why they couldn't stand me.
26:06 I was like, "My content is about food."
26:10 "You dislike me because you thought I'm not a biological man."
26:15 "And you hate me because of that."
26:17 That's so weird.
26:18 That is weird.
26:19 That one that is cruised with my head,
26:23 it messes with my head.
26:25 I was like, "Am I a freak?"
26:27 "Am I so wrong? What did I do wrong that you can't accept me?"
26:31 "You want to hate me?"
26:33 So, I went to a therapist.
26:35 I just told them.
26:36 My therapist advised me to approach them with kindness.
26:39 Because "tenang" is a good word.
26:42 Please! No!
26:43 "Tenang" is good.
26:44 "Tenang" is good.
26:45 It's not good for me.
26:46 I can't be calm with all these haters.
26:49 Right.
26:50 If we look at the Palestinians who are being attacked,
26:53 do you want to be calm?
26:54 No!
26:55 But when I talk about this issue,
26:57 I did receive threats from people.
27:00 All those online trolls.
27:02 I got hate comments.
27:06 Of course, there must be.
27:08 And then I lost friends.
27:10 Because I have friends who are American Jewish.
27:13 So, they asked me,
27:15 "Why did you take this stand?"
27:17 "Do you know that it hurt me?"
27:18 I said, "What hurt you? You're in America."
27:20 "You're not directly in there."
27:22 "I don't know."
27:23 So, they didn't agree with my opinion.
27:27 I didn't even ask you.
27:28 But you don't like it.
27:29 That's your problem.
27:30 I lost friends.
27:31 I got hate.
27:32 I got asked.
27:33 I got chopped.
27:35 "You do this in Malaysia because you want to win the hearts of Malays."
27:40 Wow!
27:42 "I do everything to win the hearts of Malays."
27:44 "I do Ramadan content because I want to fast."
27:46 "You do this to win the hearts of Malays."
27:49 Okay.
27:50 I said, "I support Palestine."
27:53 "You want to win the hearts of Malays."
27:54 "Okay, okay."
27:55 "I do everything to win the hearts of Malays."
27:57 Hater.
27:58 Hater.
27:59 We have to love our haters.
28:02 But these haters, please go and see a therapist.
28:06 You need help.
28:07 You need...
28:08 We send you love.
28:11 Because tenang is what?
28:12 Tenang is good.
28:13 Tenang is good.
28:14 Sabar.
28:15 Tenang is good.
28:16 Macam-macam itu.
28:17 Good.
28:18 Is that what you say in your show?
28:19 Ya, tenang is good.
28:20 Good.
28:21 So, you've been through some things in your personal life.
28:26 Of course.
28:27 I've read somewhere like divorce.
28:30 How did you get through it?
28:33 It's very crazy.
28:34 When I got divorced, 13 days later, my dad passed away.
28:41 So, I started this new life.
28:47 Saya mula membangun kehidupan baru dan kemudian berdoa pada waktu yang sama.
28:52 Jadi, bukan mudah.
28:54 When things like that happened to us.
28:57 Perkara ini adalah...
29:03 We each have our own set of lessons to learn.
29:12 Everything that happens in our lives will teach us...
29:16 ...and everyone has their own lessons.
29:20 That's why we shouldn't judge others.
29:25 I always see on social media that when I see an artist going through something like this,...
29:30 ...it's like you're not human.
29:34 It's like you don't go through your own experiences.
29:37 But, in a way, that's how I went through my life.
29:42 My ex-husband also went through his experiences.
29:46 So, in a way, after two years, we decided to drift away.
29:52 We divorced in good terms.
29:56 In the end, we realised that sometimes what we want...
30:04 ...will be taken away from us.
30:11 That's deep.
30:13 Yes, guys.
30:14 The more we want something, the more we hold on to it.
30:16 We want it so much that we make it something we really want.
30:22 In the end, it will be taken away from us.
30:24 I feel like this is a Medeka exclusive.
30:29 An edition of Malaysia Day.
30:31 Even though it's long gone, we're still very patriotic.
30:33 But, yes, please tell people where to find you.
30:35 Do your fans know about any upcoming projects?
30:38 Yes, you'll know. Just find me on Instagram.
30:41 Just find me on Instagram.
30:43 @mimifly
30:46 Who stole the @mimifly?
30:48 Someone stole the @mimifly.
30:50 No, I just like it.
30:51 @mimifly
30:53 That's a good one.
30:56 Thank you so much, Mimi, for doing this with me.
30:58 I really love talking to you.
31:00 We'll keep talking.
31:01 Because I have so much to learn from the living legend.
31:04 Wow.
31:05 Yes.
31:06 Thank you for watching Poka Sembang atas Dulang Season 2.
31:10 With me, Sedi, and Spritzer.
31:13 Extracted from the ground, from all the water.
31:16 It's made from the rich and precious minerals of silica.
31:19 Introduce yourself to Spritzer.
31:24 [Music]
31:29 (whooshing)
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