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00:00I think you've mentioned your mother many times
00:03And even in your bio, you call yourself mama's boy
00:06Uh-huh
00:07Okay
00:07Wow, you did your homework, huh?
00:09So good, huh, you
00:10Mother
00:11Come on, my guest, man
00:14Okay, that's good
00:15Because you mentioned that you are proud to be mama's boy
00:18Although sometimes mama's boy has a stigma
00:20Oh, he's mama's boy
00:22Better don't date a mama's boy
00:23Yeah, exactly
00:24A lot of people say it's a red flag
00:26But I don't care
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00:49Hello, welcome back to Sembang Atas Dulang podcast
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01:01Spritzer loves vacation
01:03I love vacation
01:06Welcome to my show, Ismail Izzani
01:09Hello
01:10An extraordinary artist
01:13Hello
01:14Wow, that's an introduction
01:15That's great
01:16That's great
01:17I'll do some research later
01:18Okay, okay
01:20Yes, why I say extraordinary
01:21Because earlier when my producer briefed me
01:24He said, actually one of the best part about Ismail
01:27Is that he doesn't always release a song
01:29But if he releases a song, it must be a hit
01:32Oh
01:32Wow, high praise
01:34I'm so grateful to hear that
01:35Yes
01:36I'm so proud, right?
01:37That means you're not an ordinary artist
01:40If you're an ordinary artist, you'll release 10 hits and 10 vlogs
01:43Don't say that
01:44Not sometimes, don't say that
01:46Sometimes
01:48Okay, so the show is called Sembang Atas Dulang
01:50It means we have to reveal first
01:53Okay
01:53What's on our shoulders
01:56Okay
01:56So, we are in Penang
01:58So, I hope this is a Penang food
02:07Explain
02:08Actually, this is a Penang food
02:10It's planted in Penang
02:12Yes
02:12Yes
02:13It looks like a normal fruit
02:14But actually it's extraordinary
02:16Okay
02:16Not like me, but the fruit is the same
02:18Okay
02:18Okay
02:19Ismail, while we're chatting
02:21You are one of the artists who started off quite young, right?
02:26How old were you when you started?
02:2717
02:28My goodness
02:29And then, you've been a singer for...
02:34I mean, 17 is the time when I really got into the industry
02:39Okay
02:40But then before that, I started singing in school
02:42Oh
02:43Like high school and stuff
02:44But my mom always supported me
02:45I went to busking
02:47So, 17 is the age when I really got into the industry
02:52And get to know how to work in the industry
02:55So, it's kind of early
02:58Because for me, it's not easy
03:01Especially, there's homeschooling and stuff
03:05And also, my environment is different as a 17-year-old boy
03:09So, yeah
03:10Oh, you were homeschooled?
03:11Yeah, before
03:12The whole time?
03:1316, 17, for two years
03:14Oh, for two years
03:15But you've been to public schools and all
03:18So, you remember homeschooling
03:19In Malaysia, homeschooling is not allowed
03:21Yeah, it's hard
03:22It's hard
03:22It's harder than Form 1 homeschooling
03:25You don't have friends
03:26I don't have friends
03:27That's why I was like, wow, homeschooling for two years
03:30So, you've been an artist for so long
03:32For 17
03:36Drink the spritzer
03:37By the way, he has never tried
03:40Why?
03:40Oh, thank you, thank you
03:41He has never tried the sparkling version
03:43Let's drink together
03:46Okay?
03:47Sure, sure
03:48Drink, drink, drink
03:53How does it feel?
03:54Fresh
03:55It's fresh, right?
03:55So fresh
03:56I heard there's lemon
03:59Lemon is even better for me
04:01Better?
04:02It's lemon for me
04:02Yeah, it's lemon
04:03It's okay, I'll just put it here
04:05You can take it here
04:06So, you were saying?
04:07No, you've been an artist since young, right?
04:11Do you feel like because you start off young and all
04:16You miss out a lot of being...
04:20What do you call that?
04:21What I'm trying to say is that
04:24You know, sometimes people say artists lose touch with the reality
04:27Because they've become famous since they're young
04:31So, they don't know the reality of the society
04:35Do you feel that way?
04:36I do
04:37Especially when my friends around me
04:40Let's say after they're 17
04:42Of course, they continue studying
04:44And then they have like a
04:45Not to say a normal life
04:47But like the life as a student
04:49Where you make friends
04:51And then they study overseas
04:52Where you experience a lot of things out there
04:56Make new friends and stuff
04:57Meet new people
04:58But for me
05:01Before I signed the contract to start as a singer
05:06Surprisingly, my mom asked a lot of questions
05:08Because my mom used to be a singer too
05:09Back in the 80s and 90s
05:11But then she stopped because of
05:13After she got married, she stopped
05:15So, she always asked me like
05:17Are you ready?
05:17Do you really want to be in this life?
05:19Which I didn't understand at first
05:21In my mind, I just want to be an entertainer
05:24I just want to be out there to sing
05:27To share my music
05:29That's all I had in my head
05:30There's no negative side of things
05:33Not to say negative
05:34But you know that energy
05:35When you're in the industry for quite
05:38Like young
05:39And then you're gonna go through a lot of things
05:41And you have to learn by yourself
05:43So, the only person who guide
05:45Not to say guide
05:46But was there for me
05:47Is only my mom
05:48And I'm so close with her
05:50So, for me
05:52Yes, I skipped a lot of things in life
05:54But in the same time
05:58I realized that this is what I signed up for
06:02So, I was prepared
06:03Not to say fully prepared
06:05But I was prepared
06:06But like mentally
06:08It's not easy
06:08It's about
06:10Of course, it's hard
06:11Like imagine
06:1317 years old
06:14And then you have your own like salary
06:17Monthly
06:18And you are gonna be like culture shock
06:21In a different way
06:22You cannot manage your own like lifestyle
06:25Your own spending
06:26Especially you are the only boy in the family
06:29And then I'm just close with my mom
06:32So, like a very small family
06:34Again, I feel like
06:35Oh, I actually skipped a lot of things
06:37And sometimes I sit down
06:38It's hard to ask myself like
06:41What if
06:42You have like a normal life
06:44Where nobody like
06:46Like see kind of thing
06:47Like you just go
06:49To do whatever
06:51Yeah, do whatever
06:52You know
06:52And yeah
06:54Of course, I think a lot about that thing
06:55Yeah
06:56Okay, so in that
06:57When you explain your journey
07:00Yeah
07:00I think you mentioned your mother
07:03Many times
07:04And even in your bio
07:05You call yourself
07:06Mama's boy
07:08Okay
07:08Wow, you did your homework
07:10So good
07:11Mother
07:12Come on, my guest man
07:15Yeah
07:15That's good
07:15Because you mentioned
07:17That you are proud to be mama's boy
07:18Even though sometimes
07:20Mama's boy has a stigma
07:21Oh, he is mama's boy
07:23Better don't date a mama's boy
07:24Yeah, exactly
07:25A lot of people said red flag
07:27But I don't care
07:28Actually
07:29When did this happen that
07:31They think a mama's boy is a red flag
07:33I'm not sure
07:34But
07:34It's different if the mother is bad
07:36Well, what is every mother is bad
07:38No, I think the way they think is
07:39Mama's boy
07:40Somehow
07:41There's something like
07:43I don't know
07:44I'm also not sure
07:45There must be
07:46It means he doesn't
07:47He listens
07:48Take mother's side
07:49If the mother
07:50Like let's say
07:51Those are positive things, no?
07:53Because mama comes first
07:55Right
07:56But some women
07:57Will want to come first
07:59Then the mom
08:01Pick your answer correctly after this
08:03Better be careful
08:05Sorry
08:06Fine
08:07That's fair enough
08:08But tell us about your mom
08:10So when you want to become an entertainer
08:13So what kind of advice
08:14Or advice
08:16That she gave you
08:18As I said
08:18I'm the only boy in the family
08:20So of course
08:23I don't want to say the boy next door
08:24But my mom really loves me a lot
08:27Because my sisters
08:29Like my elder sister
08:30She's far
08:30She studied college in Melaka
08:32And then she studied in London
08:34So she's always quite far from us
08:36But at the same time
08:37We always like call each other and stuff, right
08:39But like my second sister
08:41She's close with my dad
08:43So I'm the only boy
08:44And the only child
08:46Who's close to my mom
08:48So my mom always supports me
08:49No matter what
08:50And back then I remember
08:51There's a lot of memories where
08:53When
08:54This is not the thing
08:55That I want to share
08:56To the people out there
08:58I'm just sharing
09:00And I never tell this to anyone
09:02Only my show?
09:03Yeah
09:04It's the first time
09:04I just want to share
09:06I mean
09:07Those are the days when
09:10I don't want to go to school
09:12Okay
09:13When my
09:14I have a problem in school
09:15There's a senior
09:17Who broke my guitar and stuff
09:19So it was a tough time for me
09:22To just like
09:23Go to school and have fun
09:24And learn
09:25That kind of thing
09:26So what I want to do is just to
09:28Go to the mall
09:30Buy a new guitar
09:31And just like
09:32Busking, singing
09:33You know
09:34And my mom helped me
09:36She bought me a new guitar
09:39She's the one who brought me
09:40Like in the morning
09:41To go to school
09:41With that school uniform
09:42She's ready to bring extra clothes
09:44Just to send me to a mall
09:45And she'll wait in the car
09:47And I will go busking at the mall
09:49I've busked in Sogo
09:52At LRT
09:52A few LRT's at
09:54Srirampai and stuff
09:55Okay
09:55So that was the time where
09:58I was 15
10:0014, 15 years old
10:01Okay
10:02And I realized that
10:05I had this
10:06This
10:06How do I say it?
10:07Conversation like with my dad
10:09Like like
10:10What's the big deal?
10:11All that stuff
10:12And I realized at that moment
10:13Like to
10:14Find money is not easy
10:16You know because
10:17Let's say if I busking
10:18Let's say I start at 10am
10:20I will finish at 7am
10:226am
10:23And all I get is like what?
10:25RM15
10:26Okay
10:26But I was happy
10:27I was so happy
10:28Because I get to do
10:30What I want to do
10:31And my mom saw that
10:32And my mom never complained
10:34But what she did was always
10:36Support me
10:37So I feel like
10:38I grew up with a love
10:41With a
10:42With a true love from my mom
10:44And I feel like my mom's
10:47First true love is me
10:48Okay you know kind of thing
10:49Because that is how she loves me
10:51And that is how she shows it
10:52So I feel like
10:53Not to say
10:54People out there
10:55You guys can go to school
10:56And go busking
10:57Don't
10:57Don't
10:58That's not a good example no
10:59Wait
11:00I want to cut you first
11:01Yeah
11:01If you guys want to go to school
11:03And want to be a busker
11:04Make sure your voice is okay
11:06Please at least go to vocal class first
11:08Oh
11:08Ready
11:09Ready
11:09Highlight it
11:10Really
11:10Sometimes
11:11Buskers
11:12Don't want to say anything
11:14They
11:17Don't be like that
11:18No
11:18But
11:19Don't be bad
11:21I didn't say anything
11:22Your voice is bad
11:23Don't say anything
11:24Your bad voice
11:25Can get 30 million views
11:27On the song
11:28It's not because of passion
11:30It means you have to train first
11:32Practice first
11:33Before you go busking
11:34Sometimes you will be a nuisance
11:36People want distraction
11:37Peace of mind
11:38Suddenly like
11:38Ah
11:38He's like
11:39What
11:40Oh
11:40Can
11:41Don't
11:41Don't
11:41Don't
11:42And don't be bad
11:43Yes
11:43Don't be bad
11:44It's not a good example
11:45But this is just a story to tell
11:46Because
11:48To remember
11:49Like
11:49For me to
11:51Before what happened
11:53It is
11:54Such a
11:55I had my own struggle
11:56And I love it
11:57Because my mom was always there for me
11:58But actually
11:59Do you mind if I ask
12:00What
12:01What's the relationship like with your dad?
12:03We're not pretty close
12:04Okay
12:05Yeah
12:06I mean
12:07We
12:07We're not close
12:08You know
12:08Okay
12:09I understand
12:09All I can say is
12:10The only time that we get
12:12Is when
12:13Raya comes
12:14Ah
12:15I said
12:15Understand
12:16It's okay
12:16We're not gonna
12:17Delve into that
12:18So
12:19Again
12:19Back to the
12:20Ibu-ibu yang
12:22Dihormati
12:23Like what you mentioned about your mom
12:24Did she spill any dark side of the industry?
12:27When she was
12:29Singing and all
12:31The only thing that she
12:32Always reminds me is
12:34You have to be strong
12:36Not just physically
12:38And I
12:39I didn't understand at first
12:40Because like
12:41What can go wrong?
12:42You know
12:43I just wanna
12:44Sing
12:44I just wanna sing
12:45I just wanna perform
12:45Yeah
12:45I just wanna
12:46I just want people to know my music
12:48Like that
12:48So
12:49What can go wrong?
12:51So that's what I always
12:53Say to my mom
12:54I really want this
12:55Because I already had a contract
12:57I really want this one
12:58I'll make this happen
12:58I wanna achieve my dream
13:01And it took her for like
13:02One year
13:03For her to really think and approve
13:06Because at that time
13:06I couldn't sign the contract myself
13:08Yeah
13:08I need my mom
13:09Because I was underage
13:10So
13:11Yeah
13:12And then
13:13She made up her mind
13:14And then
13:15She said yes
13:16And I was so happy
13:17But then to say
13:18Like my mom said
13:20To Spirity
13:21About the industry and stuff
13:22Not really
13:23But whatever she said is
13:25Never
13:26Always be yourself
13:27And never be a hypocrite person
13:29Okay
13:29Yeah
13:30Which is
13:31I didn't understand at first
13:32But
13:33As time goes by
13:35As soon as I grow
13:36Older
13:37And then I
13:38Try to remember
13:38What my mom said
13:39When I really remember that words
13:41I feel like
13:44It's not easy to be yourself somehow
13:47And
13:48Sometimes
13:49Especially now
13:52I don't wanna say too much
13:53But like social media has
13:54Really changed our life
13:56So
13:56Sometimes for me
13:58I never thought
13:59If I want to do something good
14:01I will
14:01Show it to everyone
14:02You know
14:03Kind of thing
14:03Because at the end of the day
14:04My mom said like
14:05You are just a normal human being
14:07What you should do is just to live
14:09And just to
14:11Enjoy your life
14:12While you can
14:12You know
14:12Kind of thing
14:13And if you
14:14Do something wrong
14:15Like
14:16Those are the stage
14:17Where you have to go through
14:18It's not about
14:20How
14:21You have to
14:22Like in the situation
14:23Where you have a problem
14:24It's
14:25It's actually about
14:26How you go through it
14:27You know
14:28It doesn't matter
14:28With
14:29With or without my mom beside me
14:30Kind of thing
14:31Or my friends
14:32You know
14:32But
14:33That is the hardest part for me
14:34Yeah
14:46Make sure you are always hydrated
14:48Wherever you go
14:49So
14:50Let's take a break with Spritzer
14:52When she was teaching you about
14:54The part where you have to be mentally strong
14:56Mentally strong and just be myself
14:57Yes
14:58Yeah
14:58So
14:59Along the way
15:00As you have grown in the industry
15:01In achieving
15:03Millions millions of views
15:05In music videos
15:06Streams and all that
15:08What are the moments
15:10When you realize
15:10Oh my god
15:11What my mom said
15:13Is so right
15:15Do you have
15:15Like
15:16A situation where you feel like
15:18Eh
15:18The negative side or the positive side
15:20You can give me both
15:21The positive side
15:23While I eat
15:24Okay
15:24The positive side is
15:25My first single
15:26Slaba
15:28It was
15:30It was amazing
15:31It was like a dream come true
15:33For me
15:34Because I still remember
15:35Before I released that song
15:37I always do covers on Instagram
15:39That's what I do
15:41Because a lot of people
15:42At that time I saw
15:44Like
15:44At that time
15:45Shawn Mendes was about to release
15:46Yes
15:46And then he did a lot of covers
15:48At Vine
15:48For 6 seconds
15:49Only
15:50So Instagram back then
15:51It was
15:526 seconds
15:53And then
15:54Update to 15 seconds
15:56So I always do like
15:5615 second cover
15:58You know things like that
15:58Because I see like
16:00In Malaysia
16:00Not a lot of people do it at that time
16:02So somehow
16:04I did my research too
16:05To do those things
16:07And yes
16:07I do covers almost every day
16:09I don't sleep
16:10You know to a point
16:11My habit back then
16:12I don't like to sleep
16:13Until 10 am
16:15I stay up
16:15I go to Wangsuwok
16:17I buy a ticket
16:18I sleep in the cinema
16:20Just because
16:21If I sleep in the cinema
16:22The fact that I know
16:23Someone will wake me up
16:25If I sleep at home
16:26I will wake up at 7 pm
16:28You know kind of thing
16:29What you could have just asked
16:30I think your mom will wake you up
16:32My mom is working
16:34Oh true
16:35So like
16:36She will never be at home
16:38I mean if she's home
16:38It's already 5 or 6
16:40So I don't wanna
16:41You know
16:41Like sleep late
16:42And wake up late
16:43So
16:44One of my habits is
16:45Go to a mall
16:4710.30 am
16:48Look for the nearest showtime
16:50Sleep in the cinema
16:51For like 2 hours
16:53Kids who are watching the show
16:55Don't buy a ticket to the cinema
16:57Just to sleep
16:58Okay
16:58Please have enough rest
17:00But not every day
17:02This is a fun fact about me
17:03But yeah
17:04Please have a rest
17:04Please have enough rest
17:06Because your body will remind you
17:07So that's the positive side
17:09And yeah
17:10That's not even a positive side
17:12Hold up
17:13I'm telling you this
17:14Sorry
17:14Wait
17:15I'm sharing
17:16And the positive side is
17:17The first single
17:19It was unbelievable
17:20Because I didn't expect anything
17:22And
17:22It was a struggle for me too
17:25Because
17:27At that time
17:27The industry was full of ballad music
17:31Even the new batch
17:32Everyone is doing ballad
17:34And
17:36My song is not ballad
17:38It's R&B
17:39It's a pop song
17:40Pop R&B
17:40Very bright
17:42So
17:44I was afraid
17:45But at the same time
17:47I want to do this
17:48Because I'm excited
17:49So I didn't see it
17:50So that happened
17:51And everything went so well
17:53Until people remember
17:54I'm not from Malaysia
17:55People said
17:55Oh
17:56This guy is from Singapore
17:57This guy is from Indonesia
17:59You know kind of thing
18:00And then
18:00I remember the first time I entered the radio
18:02I was in the car
18:04Because the radio will call
18:05So they told me
18:07So I was in the car
18:08And I called
18:09And then I was waiting for my voice
18:11At the radio
18:12With my mom beside me
18:13I still remember
18:14And
18:16Yeah
18:17That is the positive side of
18:20Of what happened
18:20The negative side of it is
18:23When I saw
18:26How people want me to be someone else
18:29Okay
18:29This is the part I'm very interested in
18:33Which is
18:35It's not easy
18:36Because somehow
18:36To be in the industry
18:38Sometimes
18:39You cannot like
18:42Be yourself
18:42But in the same time
18:43You have to be yourself
18:44Yeah
18:44You cannot be too much of yourself
18:46Too much of yourself
18:47And cannot
18:47And I realized
18:48I did this one phase
18:49Where I share everything
18:51In social media
18:52Everything
18:53Who I'm with
18:55Everything
18:55My life
18:57My family
18:58My personal life
19:00My private life
19:00I share everything on Instagram
19:03Which is that
19:03It's the moment I realized that
19:06This is not good
19:07Yeah
19:08Because somehow
19:09I cannot understand
19:11And live
19:13On like
19:14How to enjoy my private life
19:15And my life as well
19:16You know kind of thing
19:17So PKP
19:19Lockdown
19:20Really hit me
19:21Because I live alone
19:23With nine cats
19:24Okay
19:25So every day I was just talking with cats
19:27You know kind of thing
19:28And to a point
19:29At that time
19:30I finally got to appreciate myself
19:34Yeah
19:34Appreciate myself
19:35And get to know myself more
19:36Wow
19:37Because before that
19:38I realized like
19:39Sometimes to be in the industry
19:41Or to be out there
19:42You need to be someone
19:43That people like
19:45And people want
19:47Which is the fact that
19:48A lot of people will still hate
19:51Some will be interested
19:52Some will be upset
19:53Or hate
19:54Or really don't like
19:55But what can you do
19:56At the end of the day
19:57You know
19:57What I can give is just
19:59Honesty
20:00And be myself
20:01And in the same time
20:02To spread the love that I want
20:03That's it
20:04That's how I realized
20:06The negative side of it
20:07Also because of your kuching
20:09Your nine cats
20:10It's not kuching
20:11It sounds like the beginning of a cat woman
20:13But a cat man version
20:14You know
20:14Like
20:14You can't
20:15She was also
20:15Talking about power
20:16Power from the kuching
20:18Kuching some more
20:19Then you also got a bit from your cat
20:21Then you become stronger
20:23Can't
20:23New single
20:24Cat man
20:27The lucky kuching
20:28The lucky kuching
20:29Wow
20:30The lucky kuching
20:31Meow
20:31Are you kidding?
20:32Huh?
20:32Are you kidding?
20:33Which one?
20:33Meow then you can give
20:34Meow
20:35Ah
20:35Buggy
20:37So you
20:37Do you write your own songs
20:38Most of the time?
20:40Yeah
20:40But sometimes not 100%
20:43Because I believe
20:44To work with people
20:45Is a good thing to do
20:46Okay
20:46Because to have a
20:48A good environment around you
20:50And then you give ideas together
20:52It's a beautiful moment
20:54So for me
20:55I do
20:56Write my own songs
20:58But
20:59Mostly the ones that come out
21:00Are all that I have
21:01I mean
21:02I work with someone
21:03Oh that's very nice
21:04You know
21:04I was
21:06I spoke to
21:06Tok Ram the other day
21:08And then he was telling me that
21:10Sebenarnya in the music industry
21:13It's good if you can compose
21:16Your own song
21:18Then only you go with
21:21Then
21:22The artist's participation is secondary
21:25Meaning if you can be a composer
21:28You control your own thing
21:30Then you can even decide
21:32Like okay
21:32He can't sing my song
21:34Because it's my song
21:36So is it something that you also believe in?
21:38I do
21:39Because
21:42Even if I
21:43Let's say I can compose 100%
21:47To give that song to another person
21:48Is not easy
21:49Because somehow
21:51Half
21:51Maybe some of the producers
21:53Will be like
21:54Oh you can just give it to him
21:55But for me
21:56One thing that I respect about
21:58Talking about Luar Biasa
22:00Alif
22:02It was very random
22:04Here I will go
22:06DM
22:08He made a story
22:08The song Luar Biasa
22:09His voice
22:10Okay
22:10And I replied
22:12Wow
22:12Fire
22:13Okay
22:14I still remember
22:14And then suddenly he said
22:16Yo come to my place
22:17Are you free tonight?
22:18So I was like
22:18Oh okay
22:19So I went alone
22:20I went there alone
22:22And then suddenly
22:23I met him
22:24The first time I met him
22:25I said hi
22:26And then I talked about my life
22:28And blah blah
22:29I was 18
22:31Okay
22:32And then he said like
22:32Oh do you want to try and record?
22:35Yeah
22:36Sure
22:36I didn't see it coming
22:37You know
22:37Kind of things
22:38I'm okay
22:38Sure
22:39Then when I made Luar Biasa
22:40I fell in love with that song
22:41Okay
22:42You know
22:42The first time we recorded
22:43That was the one
22:45That we released
22:46Okay
22:47So
22:47It was very fast
22:48It happened very fast
22:49And somehow
22:51Being in the studio with Alif
22:53Is like a therapy session
22:55Because the way he talks
22:56The way he gives you advice
22:58Is just
22:59A whole nother level
23:00Of what I can think
23:02You know
23:02And that changed me too
23:04So
23:06For me
23:06Like
23:06Alif really showed me that
23:09Dia buat lagu
23:11And dia bagi dekat orang yang
23:13Dia rasa
23:14Mampu untuk bawa lagu itu
23:16Okay
23:16And that is important
23:17Just like you said
23:18Like when you can compose songs
23:19Yeah
23:20Mungkin dia ini tak boleh nyanyi
23:21Mungkin this is not the person
23:22Not the vibe lah
23:23Not the vibe
23:24And setengah producer
23:25They just
23:26Okay
23:27So all you did is to command fire
23:29And then he said
23:31Yeah
23:31Take the whole song
23:33Suddenly dia macam
23:34Actually it sounds good
23:36With your voice
23:37Do you want this song?
23:38I said yes
23:39And then the next day I had a meeting
23:42My old label
23:43Didn't agree on it
23:44Oh
23:44Yeah
23:45So
23:46Funny story just to share
23:48I somehow
23:50Rejected eight songs
23:52From that label
23:53On that time
23:54Just because
23:56I don't feel it
23:57Okay
23:58The music is not
23:59I feel like the music is not for me
24:01Even I'm quite
24:02Picky and choosy
24:03Untuk
24:04Kuat lagu
24:05Because you have to understand
24:07As a singer
24:08Like if you release a song
24:10That song will be in your life
24:11For the rest of your life
24:12Yes
24:13You know
24:13Yes
24:13That you
24:14Tak boleh delete
24:15Macam-macam tu je
24:16It's not a post
24:16Macam kat Instagram
24:17You know
24:17Yeah
24:18So
24:19I really want
24:20The songs yang
24:20I betul-betul sayang
24:21And I betul-betul rasa close with
24:23So Luar Biasa masa itu
24:24Is the one
24:25I know this is
24:26This is what I want
24:27And this is what I need
24:28And you know what?
24:29I want to dance on this
24:30Because daripada kecil
24:31I selalu tengok Hindustan
24:33So I suka menari
24:34I suka tiru
24:35Cerita-cerita Hindustan menari
24:37Just to
24:37You know?
24:38And I think
24:38So I really want to do that
24:39Because I see like
24:40Oh
24:40Masa tu dekat
24:41Malaysia like
24:42For a young talent
24:45A young singer
24:46Tak ada yang menari
24:47Kan
24:47And I want to do it
24:48Kalau ada pun offbeat
24:50Ada
24:51I nampak
24:52I was like
24:52Oh okay
24:52Ada nampak
24:53And yeah
24:54I masa rasa
24:55I want to try
24:56I want to give it a shot
24:57Because I suka ambil risk
24:59That's one of
25:00That's one thing about me also
25:01I like to take risk
25:02You know?
25:03And then
25:04I was like
25:04What is there to lose?
25:07To a point
25:08I remember
25:09Shout out to Adib
25:10Adib Hamdi
25:11So he was the one
25:12Who really
25:14Helped me
25:15To get the song
25:17To discuss with the label
25:18The company
25:18Masa tu
25:19The luar biasa
25:20Yeah
25:20Okay
25:20And then
25:21It happened
25:22You know
25:22We released it
25:24But all because
25:25Of that
25:26Fire comment
25:28Let me see
25:29If you have anything
25:30I can comment
25:30Fire or not
25:34I wanna be called to your house
25:36That is one thing
25:37You know
25:38Sometimes
25:38You cannot plan
25:39For this to happen
25:40Cannot
25:41It just happens
25:42You just have to
25:44Live your life
25:46And just spread the love
25:47And positivity out there
25:49Because like
25:49If you live in negativity
25:50How can you
25:52You know?
25:52Yeah
25:52Like be happy
25:53I think intention tu paling penting juga lah
25:56Sebab
25:57Kala dia tau
25:58You buat macam ni
25:59Semata-mata
26:00Nah
26:00You know
26:02Then he will know
26:02So lah
26:03And also
26:04That's why
26:05I'm quite
26:06Surprised to hear
26:06That you are very picky
26:07With what you put out
26:10Kadang-kadang label
26:11Ada banyak
26:12Seram
26:12Cerita seram juga lah
26:14When it comes to record labels
26:15Saya pun ada interview
26:16Banyak artis juga
26:17And banyak ada
26:18Bagitau
26:19Some record labels
26:20Memang
26:21You know
26:21Making their life
26:22Harder as an artist
26:24Then the fact that
26:25You can still pick and choose
26:27That's why
26:28The ones that you end up
26:29Choosing
26:30Become hits
26:31That's why you tak selalu keluar lagu
26:33And you keluar lagu
26:33It's hits
26:34Ah
26:35Gila
26:35Itulah
26:35Your
26:37Reputation
26:38I feel like
26:39It's very important
26:41Because
26:42Yeah
26:43As a
26:44As a singer
26:45Just like I said
26:46Kita akan hidup dengan lagu tu
26:48For the rest of our life
26:49Yeah
26:49Takkanlah kita nak keluar lagu
26:51Just to release a song
26:53Ada
26:53You know
26:54Can I take
26:54I mean
26:55At some point
26:56You have to go through it
26:57But
26:58In the same time
26:59You have to remind yourself
27:00To always love your song
27:01As much as you love yourself
27:02Yeah
27:03Because you have to bring it out there
27:04And perform to people
27:05If you don't like the song
27:06And you're gonna live with the song for a year
27:08You kena nyanyi kat show
27:10Kan
27:10If you're not happy, how?
27:11But if you're not happy
27:12Why would you record the song
27:13At the first place?
27:15Just like you said
27:15Because of the company
27:17Ah
27:18Gitu
27:19That is where
27:20I will kena lead to
27:22Do you wanna say
27:22Anything bad about Nabil?
27:23Apa pun ah?
27:26So actually
27:27Okay
27:28But how
27:28What have you learned
27:29Being in
27:31You just signed with a new record label
27:33Yeah
27:33Recently
27:34Yep
27:34So what is the difference
27:36Or like
27:37What have you learned
27:38About yourself
27:39As an artist?
27:42This is interesting
27:44I mean
27:46Saya baru je
27:47Sign with a new record label
27:49A company called Def Jam
27:51You know
27:52And
27:52Patut lah
27:52R&B
27:53Hip hop R&B
27:54Yeah
27:55I mean
27:55Yeah
27:56Everybody
27:57Most of the people knows
27:58Def Jam
27:58Because there's two other
27:59Jofizo
28:00Sohrawan
28:01Alif is also Def Jam
28:02And there's a lot
28:03Killer Drift and all
28:04So
28:04For me like
28:05To be there
28:07And a proper team
28:08Is so different
28:10Because I used to be in a
28:12Company where
28:14It was from Malaysia
28:16And somehow it's a
28:17What do you say that
28:18Bangsawan punya company right?
28:20And everything is like
28:21Small
28:22Like it's a small team
28:23Basically
28:23We started so small
28:25Yeah
28:25So
28:26To be in this new record label
28:27Like I met a lot of people
28:29Even in the office
28:30Yang banyak tolong saya
28:32In terms of the direction
28:33That I need to go
28:34And to say
28:35Like for myself
28:36My life
28:36I actually learn quite a lot
28:39Because I was lost
28:41For two years
28:42Without any macam
28:44Orang yang boleh guide
28:45In terms of music
28:46In terms of my planning in life
28:48Like who I wanna be
28:50How's the look and feel
28:50That I wanna go for and stuff
28:52So
28:53Somehow
28:55I lost sebab
28:58Tak dapat buat
28:59The music and the quality that I need
29:01Okay
29:02I cuma fikir
29:04I wanna release a song
29:05I wanna release a song
29:06I wanna release a song
29:06You know that kind of thing
29:07It's a pressure for me
29:08Sebab saya rasa dah lama tak keluar product
29:10So
29:11To be in this new label
29:13It's like
29:14Very exciting
29:15Because
29:15I have a lot of like
29:17I could say mentors
29:18Macam Joe
29:20Banyak tolong
29:22Give the advices that I need
29:24Sometimes it's very random
29:25Ajak keluar makan
29:26Lunch
29:27Okay kita keluar
29:28But then
29:29The way
29:29Everything that he said
29:31Everything I boleh absorb
29:33And everything is a learning process
29:35So for me
29:37Masa first-first
29:38I sign with this label
29:39In my mind
29:40It's not that
29:41I sign
29:43Just nak jadi popular again
29:45Or like
29:46Famous again
29:47Or be out there again
29:48No
29:49My intention
29:50Bila I sign with Def Jam
29:51Is actually to learn
29:53In terms of music
29:54And in terms of the industry more
29:56Because I feel like
29:56As much as orang cakap
29:57Oh you started young
29:59You dah tau banyak benda
30:00Actually tak
30:01Because I was in a small circle
30:03In the same circle
30:04Yang I tak dapat nak explore
30:06What it is out there
30:07You know that kind of thing
30:08Faham? Faham
30:09So bila I dah join Def Jam ni
30:11There's a lot
30:12Of things that I learn
30:13And I feel like
30:14They really guide me as
30:16The person that I wanna be
30:17In the future
30:18So
30:19I'm very happy to say it
30:20And I'm very happy to be
30:21And I'm so excited
30:22Because
30:23July is gonna be my first single
30:26First single
30:27Titled?
30:28Iman
30:28Iman
30:29I was waiting for
30:30Lelaki Kek Kucing
30:32Or you know
30:33Lelaki Kucing
30:34Takde takde
30:35Maybe maybe
30:35Iman lah Iman
30:37Oh okay
30:38So is it like a R&B vibe or
30:40I don't know we'll see
30:42I would say it's a new genre
30:44For Ismail Izzani
30:45Oi!
30:45New genre
30:46Dia dah buat R&B
30:47Dia dah buat pop
30:49And that is the exciting part
30:51Sebab
30:52Jazz
30:53I think cannot lah
30:54I don't think
30:54I
30:55Please
30:55I don't think your aesthetic
30:56Is jazz enough
30:57No no no
30:58Maybe you can
30:58Maybe can
30:59Can
31:00We'll see
31:00Cannot say when lah
31:02Genre je takkan
31:03Cannot say ke genre
31:04Cannot cannot cannot
31:05Genre
31:07Oh
31:07You can
31:10Genre
31:12We'll see
31:12I don't wanna say it
31:13I don't wanna say
31:14Sebab dah nak dekat dah
31:14Lagi a few weeks right
31:16You think the episode
31:16Will come out on the same day is it?
31:17Cannot lah
31:18No lah
31:18But you have to wait lah
31:20Okay okay okay
31:20Fine fine
31:21Tiba-tiba
31:23Iman is a rock heavy metal
31:26It's like very far right
31:27Iman!
31:30Okay okay okay
31:31We don't know
31:32We never know
31:33Yeah
31:33So okay
31:34Before we close off kan
31:36Kadang-kadang
31:37You have to be real
31:38There are people who watch you
31:39They also aspire to be like you
31:41Okay
31:42I want you to give those kids
31:44A real advice
31:46Kalau dia nak jadi artis
31:48What are the
31:49Please don't give me like
31:50You got to be strong
31:51You gotta
31:52Give them one real advice
31:55Kalau dia nak jadi artis like you
31:59Don't say like me lah
32:00I mean to be an artist lah right
32:02Okay
32:04I'm a normal human being
32:05Okay anyways
32:07Okay
32:07All I wanna say is that
32:09To be an artist is not easy
32:11So apa advice yang saya boleh bagi
32:13Is always believe in yourself
32:15And who you wanna be
32:16And always plan out things
32:18Because plan is the most important thing
32:20Not just in music
32:21In life
32:22Because even though
32:23Benda itu tak tahu jadi ke tak apa semua
32:25But like when you plan
32:27You have your vision and your path clearly
32:30So I feel like that is the most important part
32:32Sebab most of the artists
32:34Not to say nowadays or whatsoever
32:36Like everybody can sing
32:38And most of them memang talent besar you know
32:42But then they don't know how to bring themselves
32:46Physically or the personality
32:48Sometimes oh suara dia power
32:50Tapi kenapa bila kenal dia dekat screen ke apa
32:54She's quite boring or she's quite boring kind of thing
32:56You know
32:56So you have to find a way somehow
32:59To know who you wanna be
33:01And how do you wanna put yourself out there
33:04And also for me
33:06Like never
33:09Jangan pernah jauh dengan family
33:12Yeah that is the first thing
33:13And always appreciate people around you
33:17And even though your friends
33:19You have to go through the bad things or the good things
33:21Just go through it
33:22Because it's your life
33:23And you deserve to know what's good or bad for yourself
33:26Wow
33:28Wow
33:29This is a very
33:30How young are you?
33:31I'm 24 now
33:32So young and so wise
33:34Okay but I will give you two more real advice
33:37One more is
33:38Do not harass Alif
33:41If you think that just by replying fire emoji
33:43Will get you a song
33:44Jangan please
33:45Okay it only happens
33:47Once in a while
33:49Once in a while
33:50And once the blue moon to the right person
33:52Okay
33:53And two
33:54Maybe
33:56Be careful with some record labels
33:59All right
34:00So we're gonna close the show
34:16I love cuti-cuti