On the latest episode of Celtics Beat, Adam and Evan were joined by Abby Chin of NBC Sports Boston to discuss the Bucks trading for Dame Lillard, as well as the Celtics being suitors for Jrue Holiday before Boston pulled off the trade to land the all-star point guard.
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00:00 I am not going to bet against the Celtics.
00:04 We have seen them make it to the Eastern Conference finals.
00:06 How many years out of how many years in a row?
00:08 And--
00:09 Five out of seven.
00:10 Yeah.
00:10 And so-- and what we haven't seen either team--
00:16 the Street happened yesterday.
00:18 And I know that is our job.
00:19 But on the floor, I want to see them on the floor.
00:22 I understand the thought process and the excitement
00:25 of Giannis, this generational player working
00:28 with Damian Lillard and the pick and roll possibilities
00:30 and all of it.
00:31 It is intoxicating.
00:33 But we have not seen anything.
00:34 We haven't seen anything from them.
00:35 We haven't seen anything from the Celtics.
00:36 We haven't seen anything from the Suns.
00:38 So it is a wonderful time of year.
00:42 Everyone is a contender.
00:44 There is so much possibility out there.
00:46 But the NBA-- and it's one of the things
00:48 that I love about it so much--
00:50 is that you just have absolutely no idea what is going to happen.
00:54 I mean, was it just last season that we
00:57 walked into the year that the Nets, with Kyrie Irving,
01:00 Kevin Durant, and James Harden--
01:02 wasn't James Harden.
01:03 He had been traded away at that point.
01:05 But I mean, 18 months ago, the Nets
01:07 were bona fide championship contenders, the team to beat.
01:11 And that just completely disintegrated
01:14 in front of our eyes.
01:15 And so I am not going to pick a favorite.
01:22 I want to see it on the floor.
01:25 Call me wishy-washy.
01:26 No, it's fine.
01:27 I mean, listen.
01:28 Also, I'm not convinced that we have a finished product
01:30 in terms of these rosters either.
01:32 But go ahead.
01:33 I know, Ev, on our text thread that I'm sure Abby
01:36 is so grateful to not be part of this particular group thread.
01:39 Ev, you expressed concerns about the Bucs.
01:43 Well, I just don't think--
01:45 it's not a slam dunk.
01:46 Not to make it a basketball pun.
01:48 But yes, on paper, the Bucs are very formidable.
01:51 But I don't think this is a given that they're
01:53 going to make the NBA finals.
01:55 I definitely don't.
01:56 I think, look, when you have a smaller point guard,
01:59 as we found out firsthand, it's very hard to win an NBA
02:04 title with a small point guard.
02:06 And Dame is fantastic.
02:08 I'm not saying Dame isn't amazing.
02:10 He's incredible.
02:11 I just have a little fear because I've
02:14 watched enough Celtics basketball
02:16 and their small guards over the years
02:18 to know that it's not always a guarantee
02:21 that an offensive scoring threat from the point guard position
02:24 is diminutive is going to guarantee you a final spot.
02:27 Dame is one of the best modern day guards
02:32 that we've seen in the past 30 years.
02:34 But the thing is, again, I'm not convinced
02:37 that Lopez has had some injury issues.
02:40 Chris Middleton has had some injury issues.
02:43 I'm not totally sold on the Giannis/Dame pick and roll
02:45 being this ridiculous thing.
02:48 I think you could make the same argument for Tatum/Porzingis
02:51 because Porzingis can actually shoot it.
02:54 And Giannis isn't really a jump shot threat to me.
02:56 I know he brings other problems to the table,
02:58 but I'm just not totally convinced that that's
03:00 going to be this huge problem.
03:02 But again, you've got to roll the ball out and see.
03:04 I mean, again, I think the problem that Milwaukee has
03:09 is a similar problem to what the Sixers have.
03:12 There's just not a lot of guys on those teams
03:14 that can guard Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum collectively.
03:18 There just isn't.
03:18 So it might solve one problem, but it might create another.
03:22 So I'm not convinced.
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03:39 Win or lose.
03:41 And then the Bucks have a first year head coach.
03:45 Again, I know the roster's talented
03:47 and things can happen, but we've never seen him
03:49 be a head coach before.
03:50 So that's Adrian Griffin.
03:52 It's not like it's going to be the slam dunk thing.
03:54 He's got to figure out other things on the fly.
03:56 A lot of expectations.
03:57 So what do you want a first year head coach
03:59 to take a team to the NBA finals?
04:01 That doesn't happen.
04:02 I mean, it might have happened, but it doesn't happen
04:06 all the time, Cotman.
04:08 No, of course, doesn't happen all the time.
04:09 But if your roster is talented--
04:10 I mean, it probably happened more than once
04:12 with LeBron or Steph teams, because if you
04:15 have enough talent, if you have enough talent, which clearly
04:18 the Bucks do--
04:19 and listen, I love the trade for them.
04:22 I love the team.
04:23 I do, obviously, root against them,
04:24 because I root for the Celtics.
04:26 But I do love the team.
04:27 I love a lot of the personnel.
04:28 Love Dame already.
04:29 It's great to see him be in an environment where he has
04:31 an actual chance to win, because it just never really
04:34 came together in Portland.
04:35 One area that I will absolutely applaud or golf clap
04:41 the Bucks' management is you had to do something, maybe not
04:46 even at this grand a scale, but you
04:47 had to do something in this direction
04:51 to appease Giannis, because he was just--
04:54 he was at the point where he was starting to hint.
04:57 If he was going to win another one,
04:58 maybe it was going to be somewhere else.
05:00 He was starting to give the help me out.
05:02 Not to-- he wasn't going full-blown Joel Embiid,
05:04 I can't do it alone.
05:05 But he was teetering a little bit.
05:08 And so if you can make a move like this
05:10 to ensure that you're keeping Giannis
05:12 Atentacumpo still the best player in the NBA in Milwaukee,
05:15 great, awesome, good for you.
05:18 I mean, two times, Giannis, who does not speak out often
05:22 and certainly does not degrade his franchise, the two times he
05:27 held his front office accountable, they, I mean,
05:30 almost immediately made a move.
05:32 The last time when they had to re-sign him,
05:34 his contract was coming up.
05:35 They gave away a bunch of picks for Drew Holiday.
05:37 And that worked out.
05:38 It turned into a championship.
05:40 So I mean, more power to Giannis and to that front office
05:43 for being able to step up.
05:45 I think Miami getting so much criticism in all of this
05:48 and all the guards that they let it go away.
05:50 But the thing is, they didn't have the assets
05:52 to get these deals done.
05:54 And it's a matter of working with other teams, right?
05:56 You got to find--
05:58 Danny used to say that all the time.
05:59 It takes two.
06:00 And in much of these blockbuster superstar trades,
06:03 it takes more than that.
06:04 It takes three teams to get something done.
06:07 And I think that this is one of the unique blockbuster deals
06:10 that we've seen that everybody kind of gets something.
06:14 And I do think we have to give credit to the Blazers for not
06:18 catering, pandering to their superstar Joe Cronin, who--
06:22 I mean, virtually an unknown to many casual fans in the NBA,
06:27 holding out on his superstar, but still landing him
06:30 in a place that--
06:31 well, it's Milwaukee-- is a bona fide championship
06:35 contender and will be for the length of Damian's contract
06:38 that's still there.
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