15 mins of Heat! Miami Heat is back on the hardwood tonight against the Houston Rockets. Pat Riley's legacy gets defined by twitter! Stephen A. Smith says that Pat Riley’s legacy is going to be taking LeBron’s cookies.
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00:00on Miami Heat, they'll be back at it tonight.
00:02Houston Rockets are in town.
00:04Of course, the last time the Miami Heat faced them, we had a scuffle.
00:08Ah, we had a scuffle.
00:09A kerfuffle.
00:10We had a kerfuffle.
00:11Tyler Hero and Ahmed Thompson, who's had a very good year for the Houston Rockets.
00:14The Houston Rockets have had a very good year in general.
00:18So that's definitely going to be an interesting one.
00:19We just saw Tyler against his brother.
00:22But Ahmed is actually out tonight, so we don't have to worry about that.
00:27All right.
00:28I was I kept asking about that.
00:30I was like, is he still got the ankle injury?
00:31Is he still doing that?
00:32He is doing that.
00:33So he's actually out.
00:33We will not get any.
00:35I mean, unless he's on the bench from a boot, you know,
00:38they don't want to fight anybody with a boot on, though.
00:40Yeah, yeah.
00:43Look, I'm just happy.
00:44Tim boots.
00:45I'll fight somebody with Timbo boots.
00:47Good sport.
00:48That's true. Yeah.
00:48Good grip.
00:49Good.
00:50Good base with Tim's on.
00:51But yeah, the Rockets obviously having a very good season.
00:54They're forty five and twenty five on the year.
00:56That was probably one of the best wins of the season.
00:59Tyler here did kick ass in that game. Yes.
01:03You know, but, you know, this is one of those things right now
01:06where it's going so rough right now. Yeah.
01:09And then yesterday was tough because it was Pat Riley's birthday
01:12and like Stephen A. Smith's out there and he's just he's
01:16like hosing them down on first take and he's like, your legacy
01:19is going to be taking LeBron James's cookie.
01:21You got this this fly.
01:23This was Stephen A. Smith yesterday on first take.
01:25There's a lot of people that would love to come to Miami.
01:28One would think.
01:31But LeBron departed from there.
01:34Kevin Durant couldn't get him there, didn't come there.
01:37Damian Lillard, you couldn't get there.
01:40And then you made a colossal mistake.
01:41We already heard the Wayne Wade story all over social media
01:44about you mess with LeBron James chocolate chip cookies.
01:46I mean, think about that.
01:47Think about think about that.
01:48You're Pat Riley and your legacy is going to be even though LeBron
01:52was leaving anyway, you know what people are going to say?
01:54LeBron James left for chocolate chip cookies.
01:56That's what they're going to say. OK.
01:57And then we look at Jimmy Butler.
01:59And when you look a guy like Jimmy Butler in the face
02:02and say we ain't moving, you forcing him to become a bit truculent
02:06and act up to force his way out.
02:09It looks like an organization
02:12that you're not inclined to gravitate to.
02:15I know it's a first class organization.
02:17I love me some Pat Riley.
02:19I love everybody on the heat.
02:20I love I love the Miami heat.
02:22But you can't there's something that has to be done
02:26because you don't have the talent necessary, which Jimmy Butler knew.
02:29By the way, you don't have the talent necessary
02:32to really, really compete at a high level.
02:34And we never thought we'd be able to say that about a Pat Riley team.
02:37But we're saying that about him now.
02:39And you got people like Jeff Teague and others on social media
02:42talking about how he needs to retire.
02:45Damn. Can't argue on his behalf right now.
02:48Wow. Jeff Teague said that.
02:50Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
02:52Yeah. Jeff Teague.
02:54Yeah. By the way, I find to be a very entertaining podcast.
02:58I really do. I'm not trying to like pretty good.
03:00But like, come on, dude, you're telling me Pat Riley's legacy.
03:04Yeah. It's going to be defined by Twitter.
03:07That's what his legacy is going to be defined with.
03:10Yeah. Twitter.
03:12Come on, dude. The architect of what of making this team matter.
03:15I'm not here to like sit here and say Pat Riley is above criticism.
03:20Or I haven't criticized him or haven't been pissed off
03:23that nothing has happened.
03:24I told him over the summer to get off his godfather ass and make a move.
03:27OK, I was very, very didn't like to sit here and be like,
03:31all people are going to say his legacy is going to be because LeBron left
03:34because cookies, it's like, yeah, no, that's a cute thing to say afterwards.
03:40It's a fun little anecdote by D Wade.
03:43But like if if you think that's why LeBron left.
03:46Well, you're probably just a child that learned about about LeBron
03:48coming to the heat.
03:49Like, I don't know what to tell you.
03:50You probably didn't watch.
03:51You probably learned about it on TikTok or something like that.
03:54But I don't know.
03:55This whole thing has been frustrating.
03:57It actually pissed you off to even see that.
03:58You know that he's close with Stephen A. Smith.
04:01He said yesterday on it.
04:03He said on a comment on an Instagram page, you're Pat Riley.
04:08Your legacy is going to be LeBron James left for chocolate chip cookies.
04:11They put that as an Instagram graphic because that's how you play the game.
04:14Yeah. And D Wade says definitely not what I said, but y'all get it.
04:19I'm really starting to understand this media game.
04:22And then I think D Wade felt a little bad.
04:25I think he felt a little bad because yesterday he sent out a birthday
04:28message to Pat Riley on Instagram talking about legacy.
04:32So I think he felt a little bad that that became a thing on first take.
04:35So here was the goat himself talking about it.
04:38Pat, and I'm in Miami right now as I send this message,
04:42you can see the palm trees through my glasses.
04:45I just want to say happy 80th birthday.
04:48Your legacy continues to live on through all of us.
04:51So we mirror images of you in all the ways we love you.
04:57Enjoy your day. Happy birthday, brother.
05:00There you go. That was D Wade yesterday on his Instagram page.
05:04But, you know, look, I know it's hard times right now.
05:07I really do. It's it is.
05:09It's not up to the heat standard.
05:12That Pat Riley created.
05:15All right.
05:16I think I'm just sitting here and I'm baffled by all of you
05:19who are just like, you're good.
05:21So winning and misery copying them.
05:23I'm sitting here and I'm listening to you guys talk about
05:25which championship or bus championship mentality that he set.
05:30Like, dude, you were you were so happy when he got down here
05:33just to be competitive and be something that mattered.
05:35And I understand right now they don't.
05:37You're not used to things like that.
05:39They got to get it right.
05:40I don't know what the system to that is.
05:42I'm throwing things like Zion Williamson against the wall
05:45because I'm trying to figure out what could it just be
05:49to get this whole thing done?
05:50I don't think to get this thing into the right place.
05:53But man, to to to see everybody just to kick a legend was that
05:58you want to know what really annoyed me about it yesterday.
06:01Tell us how you really feel.
06:02Yesterday on social media, even though I do love this bit,
06:06because I did this to Liam Eikenberg and Terry Rozier
06:08of when they send out the happy birthday messages to read the comments
06:11to see what people that's Terry Rozier and Liam Eikenberg.
06:17And to see what people said to Pat Riley on his day of birth
06:22on his born day, 80 decades on this earth.
06:26I don't think it's not.
06:28I don't think it's not.
06:29I mean, it's eight decades of 80.
06:32It's eight decades on this earth's handsome.
06:37Handsome. Yeah.
06:38A handsome devil. Yeah, for sure.
06:41And to see that.
06:42And you want to know what else happened that day?
06:44Yeah, well, the Lakers wished him a happy birthday.
06:46Look at that.
06:47And these little Lakers fans who are in their Luka pajamas.
06:51Yep. Never even know about Pat Riley.
06:54Let's stop. Stop. No, stop. Stop.
06:56Hey, how many guys on Twitter know about Showtime Lakers, Vlad?
07:00They watch the Lakers show on HBO.
07:02Great. So he looks like Adrian Brody.
07:05They're treating him like a god.
07:07And he hasn't been with the Lakers in decades.
07:11It doesn't matter.
07:12What's a Laker? Always a Laker.
07:14That's fine. That's fine.
07:15But that's my but my point being, Vlad, the fact that they're treating him
07:18with the respect he deserves and the people down here aren't
07:21are pissing on his name right now pisses me off on his.
07:25I get it. It's not up to his standard right now.
07:29But the man gets to go out on his terms.
07:31It does. Now, I'm not one of these people that says he has to go out on a high note.
07:36If Pat Riley wants to leave after this year because he's 80
07:40and deserves some level of peace, right, then good for him.
07:43You want to know what his legacy is not going to be?
07:46Chocolate chip cookies.
07:47That's why LeBron left.
07:48Only an idiot would think that.
07:50Only a dum-dum would think that to think that he hasn't been the architect.
07:54Dude, the Miami Heat would probably be a Seattle franchise right now
07:59if it wasn't for Pat Riley.
08:01What would be the Seattle rain after the Sonics left?
08:05Not that not the Miami Heat.
08:07That guy made this thing matter.
08:09It's not good enough right now.
08:11But come on, dude, like, don't act like it wasn't three seconds ago.
08:14And the whole thing goes, Oh, Jimmy Butler, you backed him into a corner.
08:20He didn't want to pay him.
08:21The corner was already backed into that point.
08:23Jimmy made his moves.
08:24But all this whole thing is, oh, he came out with a statement.
08:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:28Let's be real about it, dude.
08:30Jimmy and his agent put on a whole media clinic.
08:33Well, I may say they did a great job.
08:35They're savants where they were like, we're going to act really mad at Shams
08:40because he's reporting something.
08:42And then we're going to leak that he didn't deny it.
08:45Pat didn't deny the rumors.
08:46And that hurt our feelings because we want to be wanted.
08:49No, what you wanted was 110 million over two years, which is fine.
08:54I said you deserve that.
08:56But let's not make it other stuff, dude.
08:58Let's not do that.
09:00Let's not change it up.
09:01Let's not change the story.
09:03You wanted your money.
09:05He didn't want to give it to you.
09:07Had nothing to do with denying rumors.
09:08And you weren't backed into a corner, dude.
09:11You decided I don't want to get hurt because you get hurt a lot.
09:15You twisted your ankle against Oklahoma City and you decided
09:19I'm not risking my hundred plus million dollars anymore.
09:21And that's that has nothing to do with backed into a corner.
09:26Pat didn't want to pay you because he didn't want to pay a 37 year old.
09:29You can agree with it.
09:30You can not agree with it.
09:31I understand Jimmy side.
09:32He's going to do what he has to do to get his money.
09:35But like, oh, this was an ego battle between Pat Riley and your mother.
09:39No, it wasn't, dude.
09:40He wanted his money.
09:43Then we're going to sit here and act like it was something that it wasn't shot.
09:47Steven, you're smarter than that, dude.
09:49Come on.
09:53Yeah, I know that being said, Pat, go get me Zion Williamson.
09:55A sap dude.
09:56I need I need a present right now, dude.
10:00And I want Zion.
10:01I want him there.
10:02All right. So if you don't get Zion, what happens?
10:05Oh, we need a frozen envelope.
10:07I feel like the Miami Heat are due for a conspiracy.
10:09Like, don't you feel like everybody?
10:11You know, only five franchises haven't gotten the number one pick.
10:13And what is what is Utah desert, really?
10:15So I feel like we need the intangibles wonder.
10:19And I feel like Mickey Harrison, he needs to finally make his call.
10:23His favorite of Adam Silver.
10:25I think it's time frozen envelope.
10:27Is that how they do that still?
10:29I don't think so. I actually had to Google what I had.
10:31No idea what that was.
10:32The frozen envelope is what happens.
10:34Yeah, that was right.
10:35Yeah. Night. Patrick Ewing was the most like the number one
10:38picks of all number one picks in nineteen eighty five.
10:41And the Knicks at that time stunk and they needed basketball
10:44to be good in New York in the big market.
10:46So they they claim they say that, of course, of course,
10:51David Stern, David Stern, they froze the envelope.
10:54So he knew which envelope to shoot, to grab,
10:58to say that the Indiana Patriots would have the number two pick
11:00and the Knicks would get the number one.
11:02Well, let's be real about now.
11:03If you were if you were they do care about this, right?
11:06Like this is this goes to the whole.
11:08Oh, the Luka Trey was a conspiracy, right?
11:10Because they want like the ratings were tanking.
11:13And now there is something that has happened this year
11:16with Luka going to the to the Lakers.
11:19It has, you know, the second half of the league now.
11:21Also, I think part of it has to do with they just can't.
11:23They can't stand in the ring with football.
11:25Like there's part of that, too.
11:26But Luka to the Lakers has certainly done a big jolt to the league, right?
11:34Is it crazy to think about some of the one backstage
11:37and Adam Silver's like, hey, Nico, do you really want to do this anyway?
11:40Just trade them, Luka.
11:42Like, is it crazy to think, you know, it's a new owner there.
11:46The bus family's been there around there forever.
11:48So what I'm saying is like, let's be real about this, OK?
11:50Got Mark Cuban out of there. Cooper Flag.
11:54Oh, you want Cooper Flag in Washington
11:58and Utah, he fits right in on
12:03an intangible in Utah.
12:04That's like, you know, come on.
12:06And the Washington Wizards ever mattered.
12:08I feel like the deal was there kind of kind of lab.
12:12But even John Wall.
12:14Yeah, the John Wall Bradley tough juice.
12:16Oh, I love me some.
12:17Paul Pierce calling it off glass.
12:19I call game man.
12:22Oh, Paul Pierce in the Wizards, you know, and, you know, and the guy
12:25in the guy in the White House might win.
12:27Yeah. You know, he might go to games of Cooper Flag.
12:30Oh, you think so?
12:31Oh, well, you know, he's full of jazz.
12:34You know, Cooper Flag.
12:36Donald Trump, I think that they I think I think 2028.
12:40I think Mickey and here's the other thing.
12:42Mickey didn't do the whole, oh, let's pay Jimmy Butler to go home.
12:46He stood up to him.
12:47He's owed a favor.
12:48He is. He's owed a frozen envelope.
12:50Huh? He's owed a frozen envelope.
12:51In fact, you know what?
12:52They should go back to frozen envelope this year.
12:54That should be Adam.
12:55So he's like, we're going back to the frozen envelope.
12:57And I was like, wait, what?
12:58He's like, yeah, crazy thing.
12:59We're going to go back to envelopes, not ping pong balls.
13:01That would be OK.
13:02But you don't think that'd be suspicious?
13:04I want Cooper Flag. I want him.
13:07So we can't replicate that in the other way.
13:08You can't freeze the ping pong. What do we do?
13:10I don't know. I don't know.
13:12Do you have to, like, feel it, fill it with helium or something like that?
13:14Like, is there a way to is there a way to like, how does it work?
13:18Does it work like Powerball?
13:19Like, do they have like a deal or no deal back there?
13:21It's basically if it's a frozen envelope, the envelope is cold.
13:25You know, that's the one.
13:27But how does it work?
13:28How does it work now with the ping pong balls?
13:30Like, do they does it?
13:30It's not. It's still wait a minute.
13:32It's still the envelope.
13:33It's still the envelope.
13:34Yeah, they have the envelopes out there.
13:36Deal, no deal.
13:36Like to unveil to unveil with a pick.
13:38That's where they still pick out of an envelope.
13:40Like they still pick out of a chamber.
13:42Yeah, that's got to see.
13:44And then he was like with the six big.
13:46I don't know.
13:47Whoever the gentleman, the assistant commissioner, peanut butter.
13:51Yeah, he comes in and then he's like that guy.
13:53Nobody knows. Right.
13:54He's the one that goes with the 11th pick.
13:5676 is will select 11, whatever.
13:58And then all of that.
13:59And there's a chance we could still freeze it.
14:02It's not about you need them to freeze it for you to.
14:04Therefore, freeze the envelope.
14:06They don't have to.
14:07When they freeze the envelope, they know, oh, that's the heat envelope.
14:10Unless we can get a mere con here.
14:12Maybe that's a game changer.
14:13Oh, the boxer is busy.
14:16No, the rapper.