15 mins of Heat! No PR wins for the Miami Heat! Dwyane Wade goes on Carmelo Anthony's podcast and speaks on the Jimmy Butler scenario and his exit with the Miami Heat.
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00:00This is Dwayne Wade.
00:02Dwayne Wade yesterday was on Carmelo Anthony's podcast and, uh, he had his thoughts on the
00:09scenario.
00:10Obviously D Wade heat legend had a very famous breakup with the Miami heat and then a beautiful
00:15reunion with the Miami heat.
00:18But, um, mellow wanted his thoughts on the whole situation and D Wade said that, uh,
00:23I guess he was getting a lot of calls on both ends of this whole saga and, uh, it says he
00:29doesn't like how the whole PR battle had played out.
00:32Here was what Dwayne Wade said on Carmelo's podcast.
00:35I got a lot of calls.
00:36I was about to say, I ain't getting no checks, but I got a lot of calls.
00:39I'm sure you had to play Switzerland a lot too.
00:41I ain't getting no checks, but I got a lot of calls.
00:43Sometimes bullies get bullied, man.
00:46I just hate that for us.
00:49I hate that for Miami.
00:51I don't like how, I don't like how the bull started to creep in.
00:55Right.
00:56But I think both parties did what they were supposed to do.
01:00Jimmy stood on, we talked about standing on what you stand on and he stood on, he stood
01:03tall.
01:04Yeah.
01:05It was time.
01:06It's time.
01:07It was time.
01:08Don't even, let's not even play around with this.
01:09Like I hear everything that's going on.
01:11I hear the little whispers.
01:12I hear the side conversations.
01:14I know what I'm doing and what I'm not doing.
01:17Right.
01:18Let's not, I don't, let's not play this game.
01:19Nah.
01:20Nah.
01:21You don't want to get me out of here.
01:22I'm going to get myself out of here.
01:23I hate the PR game that's being played.
01:25Yeah.
01:26I understand it, but I hate the PR game that's being played.
01:29What Jimmy did in Miami, not a lot of players that's going to put on that jersey is going
01:33to be able to accomplish.
01:34Not, he didn't do it by himself.
01:35Right.
01:36But as the leader of that team, as the best player, what he did there, not many players
01:40that will put that jersey on will be able to do that.
01:43So for the legacy of the Miami Heat organization, you know, I hope one day he can come back
01:48and stay courtside and we can all sit there and laugh and joke.
01:52But also too, Jimmy may not ever come back.
01:54Let's go take some time.
01:55Let's go take some time.
01:56I'll ask you this though.
01:57Like you might go to a Minnesota game before you go back to Atlanta.
02:02There you go.
02:04That was D Wade on, uh, on Carmelo Anthony's podcast.
02:08Damn Tobin.
02:09It really ended that nasty.
02:10Like I knew it ended nasty, but he would rather go back to a Timberwolf game then.
02:15I think right now it's really bad, but Vlad, you know, like the Heat have bad breakups,
02:20you know?
02:22And now Shaq is the chief fun officer of carnival.
02:25You know, like I don't think it's impossible.
02:28Jimmy has said he's a, he's petty.
02:29Jimmy has said that.
02:30So I don't know if it'll ever happen.
02:34I think if D Wade were to leave the jazz and come back in the fold in some way with the
02:38Heat, that would obviously help in some way, shape or form.
02:40I do like that.
02:41He's, you know, he's been, he's been saying a lot of things on the state of the organization
02:45this year.
02:46And I think it's going to be interesting because I don't know if he ever will be brought back
02:51into the fold with the organization, because it seems like he's getting his Michael Strahan
02:55on this week.
02:56Like he's hosting the today show.
02:57He's probably going to be, you know, one of the voices of NBC basketball.
03:02Um, but you know, it's obviously he's, he's the guy that kind of guided Jimmy here.
03:09It is a weird situation for him and he's, but he's also made it known like he wasn't,
03:13he wasn't thrilled with a lot of the stuff that he were letting Jimmy get away with and
03:17all this either.
03:20So, but I, I totally agree with his whole PR about like the back and forth that is,
03:25is going to go back and forth with this whole thing of, Oh, we let Jimmy do this.
03:29And Jimmy's like, Oh, do Pat Riley's on it right now.
03:33The Heat, the Heat right now are a, are not in the winning hand.
03:36They're not in the winning position right now.
03:38There's not much you could say.
03:40And any of that stuff that you're trying to, to, to paint, to make yourself look better,
03:44unless it's like something wholly disrespectful that you have to come out and clarify, man.
03:51Best is the hope that that, that Warriors team crashes out in some way in the, in the
03:55playoffs and that your bet, the ultimate thing of this was you guys bet on the fact that
04:02Jimmy Butler at 37 was not going to be anywhere near worth 60 plus million dollars.
04:09You got to hope you're right on that.
04:11And then you also have to hope this doesn't end with, uh, with, with him holding a trophy.
04:16That's where it's at.
04:17But for right now, but for right now, there are no PR wins for the Heat.
04:22Yeah.
04:23You only put it this way.
04:25If it wasn't for the fact that the, um, like you said, the sons and six years stunk son
04:33Sixers.
04:34And I mean, everybody's laughing and the math trading of Luca.
04:39And then all of a sudden in AD and Kyrie got hurt, but they're getting a little bit
04:43flat.
04:44Like, listen, ESPN was toasted Miami this week saying like, this has been a disaster
04:48trade.
04:49Uh, Jeff Teague was saying this week, he's like, blow it up.
04:52It might be time for Riley to, to leave and Eric's supposed to take over the show there.
04:57What do you mean?
04:58Blow it up?
04:59Because you're not trick.
05:00You have a nice little nucleus.
05:01It's not like anybody's.
05:02It's not like, I mean, you, you could say Tyler's a star Bam's a star, but nobody's going to
05:07make a move for those guys.
05:08Like they are not going to, it's not right now.
05:10They're not going to give up like first round picks for these guys.
05:14So I blow it up when they say blow it up.
05:16What does that mean?
05:17Get a new voice.
05:18Like, I don't think there's a new voice that needs to be heard.
05:21Well, that's the interesting thing too.
05:24Like man, Pat Riley was thinking about walking away back when LeBron was here and then LeBron
05:29left and he's like, Nope, more dug in.
05:33So I could see, it was interesting because like, I kind of felt like in the year started
05:38and Pat Riley was doing the whole statue, like Nick court named after him statue in
05:43LA next year, part of me kind of felt like this, you know, Riley's turning 80 soon.
05:49I think he's, I think his birthday is coming up.
05:51Like, is it like this week?
05:54Um, and yeah, when is he born on his birthday, March 20th, his birthday is in a week.
06:03Um, part of me felt like, Oh, those are kind of signs that maybe Riley is really ready
06:09to ride off into the sunset.
06:11And now like this happens, you know, this is a, this is a very prideful, stubborn man.
06:18So you think there's a new battery in his back now?
06:20I don't know.
06:21I don't know.
06:22I don't know.
06:24I don't know because it's different when you're, you know, 10 years ago, you're turning 70.
06:29Now you're turning 80.
06:30I don't know how he feels.
06:31He's still at those games and he's still, he's still watching them and he's still, you
06:36know, in it with all of them.
06:37And I know that there's more guys that are putting their input and suppose got his imprint
06:41on the team a little bit more, but it's tough, not like this is the season.
06:46So you're going to let Jimmy walk away, get his money, leave your team in tatters.
06:52And you're going to call it a career.
06:53I mean, it doesn't ruin his legacy.
06:55His legacy is golden.
06:56He, he is Miami heat basketball, but I can't imagine some batteries you don't need.
07:04Like, you know, like this might be a rail vac.
07:07This is not an energizer.
07:08This, you know, this is not a Duracell.
07:11That's not the type of battery he needs to like, keep going.
07:13It might be time to, you know, yeah, you know, gracefully bow out.
07:19It might be, it might be, but I can't, I can't, I can't imagine that.
07:24I don't know.
07:25It's tough for me to say like, this is going to be the year.
07:27This is going to be the one that he ends on, you know, I, I think if the year would have,
07:34I think if they would have been able to get to the finish line year, right.
07:36And they would have been able to figure the Jimmy thing out and done, it would have gone
07:41a little bit more gracefully than I could have seen his career just ending just based
07:46on the signs of the court, the he's going to have celebrate be celebrated by the Lakers
07:51next year.
07:52It was in, but now I don't know.
07:54I don't think he's going to go out like this.
07:57And, but I don't like, I don't think that he'd have a lot of great paths out of this
08:01either.
08:02Like, you know, what is it?
08:04Everybody's going to point to Durant is going to go ahead.
08:11I'm sorry.
08:12Sorry about the, I was asking you, what do you think these guys are going to do?
08:14Because it's like, you can't look at the rent at 37 coming to your squad.
08:19And that's going to be the, that's the guy that's going to get you over the top and aunt
08:23and jaw and Zion, Zion's the one where I'm like, that's a, that's a by-low, but he's
08:33incredible, incredibly talented.
08:37And if you're believing in your organization and talent, and you need a guy, who's like
08:43the star of your team, that's the one where I'm like, all right, that makes a lot of sense
08:48for the heat.
08:50It makes a lot of sense.
08:52The ant thing, it could happen.
08:55Maybe eventually the Luca thing, maybe I'm not going to rule the, ever rule the heat
08:58out of being in the game, but they're not happening anytime soon.
09:01They're not going to happen this year.
09:03They're not going to happen.
09:04They're not going to, I mean, we'll, we'll know that once, uh, once Luca, if he signs
09:09an extension or not the ant thing, a rod just got control of the team.
09:14Hard time believing he's going to let go of, and the wolves are on fire lately too, by
09:17the way.
09:18Um, so got a hard time believing that, like, so I'm looking at like, what are the realistic
09:23options that are out there for Miami Zion or Laurie marketing?
09:28Like those are like the guys who are like, oh, all like really talent.
09:31Yeah, I know.
09:32I know.
09:33I'm just trying to think like, who are the guys who are like actual all-star talents
09:37that Miami could get their hands on next year, like to get, to add to this team next year.
09:43That's what I'm looking at as far as, as far as the team is concerned.
09:47And that's without giving a bam and Tyler.
09:53To get a superstar.
09:54Cause I'm trying to figure out to get a superstar right now with the, in the, in the league.
09:58And not because obviously with the plane situation is pretty much 20 teams are having a chance
10:03to make the post-season.
10:04Right.
10:05Yup.
10:06And then you have to look for maybe a team that's has a superstar that is not playing
10:11well.
10:12And, but a lot of these superstars are older, but you're not going to want to take a chance
10:16on Kyrie Irving next season, say Kyrie upside.
10:19He's a free agent.
10:20And you're not going to, do you want to take a chart at Kyrie Irving coming back from a
10:23knee injury and a knee injury that they say he might not even back for the full year in
10:2725, 26, man off the ACL.
10:33That's a tough one.
10:34Okay.
10:35It's a tough one.
10:36I wouldn't be against it.
10:38Like I wouldn't be, I don't know what you'd have to give up though.
10:43Like I think that that's a, that's a squirrely one with, with coming off of that injury.
10:47And then Katie's 37, bro.
10:49And I know he's still a bucket getter, but that it's not the same impact as it was before.
10:53And if you're Katie, like look where the heat are right now, does he want to come to Miami
10:59to play?
11:00You know, I know he knows bam.
11:01I think he had like a, I don't know what his relationship was with Tyler.
11:04I know like he's, he knew Tyler coming out of college and things like that.
11:08Like is this, it's the perfect fit for him as far as like, okay.
11:14But is it like a true contender with him at his age?
11:16Like he just has, he hasn't moved the needle.
11:20Like he hasn't been like that since, since leaving golden state.
11:24Not really since that one Nets year where he almost beat the bucks.
11:27So I don't know, man.
11:28I don't know.
11:29And then you got to also figure out what's the heat's pick situation going to be.
11:32Are they getting two picks?
11:33Are they getting one pick?
11:35So that's all, that's all they're out on the table right now.
11:37We'll take a break, play a little, you did to me to close things out.