Tobin and Leroy speak with Miami Heat assistant coach and former All Star, Heat first round pick Caron Butler about his new book Clutch Time, his message to kids, Tyreek Hill, the Heat's upcoming season, Bam Adebayo and Erik Spoelstra's Olympic run, Miami Heat summer league title and next steps for Nikola Jović!
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00:00Talk to a man who was a tough play, man.
00:01Let's go out to the toilet of Hollywood guest line shop.
00:03A hundred toys indoors and one of America's largest showrooms at toilet of
00:07Hollywood on four 41 between Hollywood and Sharon has a new book out clutch time.
00:11Part two of his, uh, his series.
00:13He's assistant coach of the Miami heat.
00:16He was a former first round pick of the Miami heat.
00:18We always love getting some time with this man.
00:20Tough juice.
00:21Karan Butler joined in the program.
00:23How are you coach?
00:24How's everything going?
00:25I'm doing amazing.
00:26How are you guys doing?
00:27Good, good.
00:27Karan, Hey, what I think our, um, the equivalent to us playing a Thursday
00:34night game, is that very similar to a back-to-back because you probably get
00:37to the new place or you, you get ready for that back-to-back and you still
00:41got ice on from the night before.
00:43Yeah.
00:44You know what, it usually takes quite a bit of time to recover and bounce back,
00:48but sometimes like in rare situations, you know, you get high for like a front
00:54end of a game in a back-to-back and you kind of just carry that momentum,
00:57especially if you played extremely well, right.
01:00Kind of still running on the fumes of good momentum.
01:03So good fumes, but sometimes on the back end of a back-to-back, if it
01:07requires a lot of traveling, say if we're playing in on the West coast and
01:11then we're coming back for a home game, that, that can be extremely tough.
01:15So you got a new book out Karan.
01:17Why don't you tell us a little bit about it?
01:18This is part two of your series that you're the one that you
01:21had out a couple of years ago.
01:22Yeah, actually.
01:23So we started off with shot clock and it originally started with my Butler
01:27elite organization, um, that we renamed in the book called the Oasis spring.
01:32And we just talked about, you know, what you, what a lot of the kids was
01:36inspired by, uh, through my observation.
01:39And I saw real stuff happening in real time from an authentic standpoint.
01:43And when I grew up, I didn't have real stories that I can connect to.
01:46That was part of, you know, um, the curriculum in schools.
01:49We had the great Gatsby.
01:50We had how to kill a mockingbird.
01:52We had the outsiders and things like that.
01:54Great books.
01:55But, uh, I felt like it was dated from now what the kids are experiencing.
02:00You're talking about police brutality.
02:01You talking about lack, lack of empathy, talking about the exposure to politics.
02:06You're talking about what we've seen in 2020 with George Floyd and
02:09this attraction of lives and communities and how they recovered through trauma.
02:14And I wanted to create a different verticals in the literature space for
02:20kids to just connect, to see their self and identify with, and become
02:24a better version of themselves.
02:26How, um, I mean, just going off of that, uh, obviously it's been a big
02:30topic this week because of what happened to Tyreek Hill before the game on Sunday.
02:34I'm sure you've seen, you know, the video of it.
02:36Uh, what was your reaction to kind of everything that went on with it?
02:39Yeah.
02:39You know what, uh, just the observation of it was just, uh,
02:43uncomfortable to watch and see.
02:45Um, you, you never want to see, uh, one of the heroes that so many, uh, look up
02:50to, uh, in his space, um, in handcuffs, um, being mistreated in any, in any
02:57capacity, but also to just from, uh, another observation, like what is the
03:02truth, what is the storyline to it?
03:04You know, uh, whatever happened from a visual standpoint, it just didn't look
03:08right, and I still don't know like the, the ins and outs of everything that
03:13happened, but just visually, that was just like a traumatic experience.
03:16And I'm just happy that he was able to pivot immediately and just go into the
03:20game and still have a significant impact and, uh, you know, state his case.
03:25From a year.
03:26So you're on a, currently on a, on a boat.
03:28So you were here in Miami, uh, earlier in the week with it.
03:30You're a, are you around your home hometown today?
03:33Is that where, uh, it's going next?
03:35Yeah, I'm in Racine, Wisconsin.
03:36Now we're visiting two schools, uh, like immediately after this interview.
03:41Um, and we're doing, uh, a huge premiere tonight at the local library.
03:46Um, a lot of people RSVP roughly about 150, 200 people here in my local community.
03:51And then we go to the West coast, uh, and hit a couple of bookstores as well.
03:55So I'm extremely excited about this whole, uh, campaign.
03:59So one of the things, and it's funny that you mentioned that, because I
04:02think of like some of the books that I've read growing up and how the life
04:09that you live in and the books that you read and it's like, wait a minute.
04:14And, and I think, you know, one of the things that I was fortunate in, in
04:19that I had family members who were, who had lived it, cause I'm a little bit
04:23older, so my great grandmother was born around 1900, right?
04:28She died when I was 13 and my grandmother and I'm from New Orleans.
04:33So it was real in that area.
04:36And they would always say, sit down, you don't need no damn book.
04:40And, and a lot of kids don't have that person in their life.
04:45So maybe a book is going to help them fully understand either how to deal
04:51with these current situations or where they came from as far as these
04:56current situations and why we here.
04:58So like, I get it, it kind of relates a little bit, but I did
05:02have people in my life, you know what I mean?
05:05To kind of tell me the stories.
05:07And, and, you know, what's even more interesting, like to piggyback on what
05:10you just said, it's like, they will try to self-diagnose you immediately.
05:15Uh, because your lack of interest to something that you lack to engage with.
05:20Right now, statistically, you being told that black and brown kids, uh, who are
05:26the majority in society don't like to read, no, they do like to read, they
05:31don't like to read that relate to them.
05:34So now you go about it a little differently and present the
05:38content a little differently.
05:39I think that it's something that they can relate to.
05:41And it's just, it unlocks a whole different thing.
05:45Right now, do you, like you have your book that kind of helps with that, but
05:50do you have other books?
05:51Cause I remember my grandmother giving me like other Arthur's authors who wrote
05:58about those things and in the summer, instead of reading the books on the list
06:02you got from school, I had to read two or three books from my grandmother that
06:07would give me, and that kind of got me caught up to where we are today.
06:12Yeah.
06:12A hundred percent.
06:13Uh, that, that this seven highly effective habits of the most highly
06:18effective people in the world, like Michael Eric Dyson introduced me to that.
06:22Right.
06:23Kind of changed my life just from a perspective, perspective standpoint,
06:27because they always tell you, like, there's some, my grandfather
06:31told me a long time ago, you know, when you born, you look like your parents.
06:34When you die, you look like your habits, you know, stuck with me because
06:38it's like, okay, what do I consistently do in my daily routine?
06:42And this is why the book spoke to me as well, because you eventually
06:47died looking like your habits.
06:49And then ultimately, you know, what is your biggest asset from
06:52a legacy standpoint in life?
06:53What do you want to do with your purpose?
06:56And this is my purpose.
06:57I'm living my purpose with a massive platform, amazing job.
07:02And I just want to empower and unlock minds, especially young people, but
07:07also old people as well, because sometimes they say a zebra never changes stripes,
07:11but it's a lot of older people that have come to these schools and these
07:15environments and saw the magic in.
07:19Us seeing the superpower and all these young people, and they like,
07:23you know what, that was powerful.
07:25I wish I had that when I was a kid, people start investing more into the
07:28YouTube when they, when they see that there's hope a hundred percent.
07:33Uh, Karan, what did you think of Bam and Spos trip to the Olympics?
07:38This, uh, this summer, uh, what did you make of, uh, of Bam's performance?
07:41Seemed like he, I don't know.
07:42Like it was cool to see him get the, the, the, the platform.
07:46I think of, of this summer, it felt like he got a lot of star shine on team USA.
07:50He may be even more so than he does in the regular season.
07:52Did you feel that at all?
07:53Yeah, I think he embraced it.
07:54And once he wasn't reactive, he was, you know, uh, he was just
07:59prepared for every moment, every situation, you know, you go in there
08:03with these high, lawfully expectations, but you don't know, like whether
08:07you're going to play a lot or less or whatever the case, but Bam
08:10embodies all the right things.
08:12When you talk about just pure to his soul about winning, that's what he is.
08:17That's who he is.
08:18The respect of LeBron James all the way down to the last guy on the bench.
08:22He, he had that and he has that, and he has that in our locker room as well.
08:27So, um, I was just happy for him because all the things that we've been working
08:31on myself, Malik spoke, he glass coach, Oh, uh, Chris Quinn, like pouring
08:38into him and just to see him unlock all that on the massive stage that he was on.
08:43It was this special and for coach spoke, um, I hope that, um, he inherits
08:49the next, uh, term as the head coach, because he's deserving.
08:53Uh, one of the best basketball minds I've ever been around in my entire life.
08:57And I've been around some great ones and, um, I'm just happy to
09:00be a student under his tutelage.
09:02What are you saying?
09:03Bam's a four.
09:04That's what I heard.
09:06Yeah.
09:06We'll do anything.
09:10I've been, I know that, but I've been begging for Bam to be a four for so long.
09:14So I'm going to keep
09:15more threes though.
09:16Quran.
09:16We got to get let's a hundred, a hundred threes this year, a hundred, three
09:21attempts, at least from Bam this year,
09:26let's let's, let's get it.
09:27Like it looked good.
09:28It just, it looks smooth.
09:29I want, I want him out to have the green, green light this year.
09:33I know that's what he's thinking.
09:34He's a two time Olympian now, so he's walking a little different.
09:41What, uh, what has been, you were, you were out there for the summer league
09:44a little bit with your, with your son on the team, like, uh, they won the
09:46championship, that was super cool.
09:49But, uh, what, what did you, first of all, make it that accomplishment
09:51that had to be unbelievably cool to, to, to have all those young guys.
09:55What a squad.
09:56I mean, they, it seemed like it was a new star every single night.
09:58Yeah.
09:58I thought coach dad did a great job of this creating a system where it was
10:06equal opportunity, smooth flow, but also everyone was highlighted and elevated
10:12every night that you mentioned my son, you know, JC, he had an opportunity to
10:16come in and just have an impact on winning, um, uh, Alonda's mad man.
10:21He did a remarkable job.
10:23You know, our draft picks, uh, they did a remarkable job at just being
10:27prepared for the moment and embracing the culture on the fly, because there
10:30was a lot of information and insight thrown on them and Jay, they just
10:35like made the seamless transition, you know, where, uh, Pella, uh, Johnson,
10:40uh, they all did a remarkable job.
10:42And then even Jaime working out with the select team and then wanting to play
10:47pretty much the whole summer league and being able to play, you know, I wish I
10:50had that luxury of having Jaime out there for a few games.
10:53Oh my God.
10:54Yeah.
10:54Because he was just dominant in summer league.
10:57He was,
10:57did you, uh, what, what were the impressions of Kalel?
11:00What did you, uh, what did you think?
11:01Just first impressions of him?
11:02His activity, you know, high motor, you know, it, it reminds me of, you know,
11:08just a kid that if you just put them in the right situation, um, with his motor,
11:14with his intentions and instincts, um, there is no ceilings on what he's capable
11:18of doing.
11:19And Dan does it a remarkable job at just simplifying the game for him and just
11:24playing off his strengths and while elevating and making his weaknesses, uh,
11:29you know, um, a blemish.
11:31What is, uh, when you guys get into this, uh, this training camp, like what is
11:35they're going to be, uh, cause obviously I'm sure they worked hard in the system
11:39with the, with the summer league and whatnot, and they've been around doing
11:41the workouts, but like, do you guys have like a, no welcome to heat camp moment
11:46for them coming like to, to, to really like push them that, you know, I think
11:50we always have that because everything we do is just, it's intense.
11:54It's hard work.
11:55Uh, it's intentional.
11:57Uh, and we, we work extremely hard in our execution of everything.
12:01And I think that, you know, all the young guys, uh, it's going to be a
12:05little shock factor to them, but the old guys, like the veteran guys, they kind
12:09of just help them navigate through that process.
12:11So it's not something that we know they can't overcome.
12:15And they've been being prepared for it for quite some time.
12:17Think about it.
12:17After summer league, they took a week off and they was right back in it.
12:22So they're already in shape.
12:23They're familiar with everything that we're going to throw at them.
12:26And I was just doing it with, you know, the veteran players being a part of it.
12:31Am I ridiculous in thinking that Bahamas camp this year?
12:36Hey, I was thinking, I was thinking like first year of the big three, you know, I
12:42feel like getting back hunkering down.
12:44Well, when we get the, the mode, there's still Quran in the Bahamas,
12:48the word no change.
12:49Yeah, man.
12:50Look, it's all about the participants.
12:52You know, wherever we go, we take the culture with us.
12:55Hey, even on road trips, we got to play a lot of games on the road,
12:58but the culture is still there.
12:59You're going to see Miami heat basketball, uh, wherever they drop us.
13:03Like coach always say, we have the Navy seal mentalities.
13:06Like they drop us off.
13:07That's what we're doing.
13:08We here on the mission.
13:10You feel better Tobin?
13:11Because he'd been going at this like after last year, I don't
13:16want them in the Bahamas.
13:20Are you covered?
13:22No, they don't send us to the Bahamas Quran.
13:25Like I go to, I can barely get sent to Palm beach County.
13:27If I, if I wanted to, for my boss, I'm like, Hey, what do you think?
13:30Sending us to the Bahamas?
13:31He goes, eh, they'll be back in a week.
13:34I'm like, come on, send us out.
13:37I would love to do that.
13:38Say it's a 35 minute flight.
13:40Come on.
13:40Exactly.
13:41Exactly.
13:42That's all I'm hoping for.
13:43One of my favorite things we'll get you out of one of my favorite
13:45things pregame is, is you and Nico.
13:47I love when he, you know, you've taught him the, the walk-off shot.
13:50This is such an interesting year for him because it's his third year,
13:52but he's still so young.
13:53He just turned 21.
13:55Uh, what do you think is like his next step?
13:58What do you think is next for Nico's game to, to, to bring to the table this
14:01season?
14:02Well, you, you saw like his availability was a huge factor, um, and he's
14:08worked on his body and obviously that's no question now, uh, and even, you
14:13know, having the ankle injury that he sustained throughout the course of
14:16training for the Olympics and finding a way after being told he was going to
14:21be out anywhere from six to eight weeks.
14:23And that, that wasn't even an option for him to still find a way to be
14:28present and available and have some type of impact in their run.
14:31That was remarkable.
14:32So, you know, that from a mental standpoint, I saw growth right there.
14:37Now just getting more reps, getting more time out there.
14:41I think he's going to have a significant impact on our team this year because
14:44it's versatility because he can make plays because he can defend multiple
14:48positions.
14:48As you saw, you know, we were switching a lot with Nico.
14:51Sometimes we was in the catch coverage, but we switched a lot with him.
14:54So his ability to do those things is a clear advantage for us
14:58offensively and defensively.
15:00And then he's just a likable guy.
15:01Um, his voice and his experience, even though he's 21, he has a, a lot of
15:06basketball knowledge.
15:07So his voice in the locker room is going to be extremely important.
15:11We've got a lot of versatile beings this year.
15:13Yeah, man.
15:14That's a luxury.
15:15It's go, it's go, Hey, it's go.
15:16They go a lot of length.
15:21You, you, you, right.
15:25It's a, it's an exciting time.
15:26It's exciting time.
15:27Go get Quran Butler's new book clutch time.
15:29It is available now.
15:30Uh, have a great tour Quran.
15:31Thanks so much for giving us some time today.
15:33And we can't wait to see you guys in a couple of weeks.
15:36Appreciate y'all man.