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00:00All right fun little exercise they did in the athletic where all the beat writers of
00:05miles garrett and ad teams
00:07Put together trade proposals to get miles garrett defensively player of the year caliber player
00:12edge rusher from the cleveland browns and
00:15You know these writers said okay, this would make sense for the team I cover
00:19Uh, and then they proposed him and the browns beat writer can accept one or I guess he could reject them all
00:25he writes
00:26Chicago offers tempting because the browns could immediately show their fans an ownership group
00:31A rebuild that includes four of the first 41 picks this year plus a first rounder next year
00:37That offer is simply a lot better than many of the others
00:40So again, that's chicago's pick at 10 their second round pick on their first rounder next year
00:44That would give them for the first 41 41 picks this year and two first rounders next year
00:49yeah, that's
00:51That would be attractive and you like that trade from a browns perspective
00:55Uh regarding the detroit trade the hooker edition makes detroit's deal intriguing but a backup quarterback isn't going to be enough here
01:01New england could probably have added joe milton and another player to get into the bidding
01:05New england had a proposal that didn't wasn't a finalist
01:08uh buffalo and detroit's offer was
01:12a first
01:14And a third this year and a first next year and hendon hooker for garrett and a fourth next year
01:20Uh buffalo, this was my favorite proposal if I were
01:24cleveland, I think uh a first this year a second this year a fourth this year a first next year
01:32defensive end aj eponessa and cornerback
01:35elam
01:37For garrett a third this year and a sixth next year
01:40Nice offer by buffalo including rousseau forget about the amari amari cooper swap and call us back tomorrow
01:48Uh for the chargers deal if you missed the chargers deal earlier
01:53The problem I have with that buffalo deal
01:56For cleveland's sake. Yeah, is it those draft pick the first round picks?
02:00It's great to get multiple first round picks, but it'd be the same thing the lions are going to give you
02:03It's a late first round pick
02:06It's really hard to to get jazzed about that, but they did throw in players. Yep
02:11But it's just not as as enticing as other teams that draft higher. So
02:16Yeah, I like the players and that's why I do it
02:19I like having some known commodities along with the draft picks which are the unknown commodities, but
02:24Uh next up the chargers deal, which was a first and a third this year in joey bosa
02:29He writes as for the chargers. I can't see the browns bringing and being in the joey bosa business right now
02:36Then he writes I think washington's offer is the best given that cleveland also needs youth across the offensive line
02:41Washington would be betting that a 2026 first rounder would again be a late pick
02:45But I think the browns certainly would want a 2026 first round selection
02:50The commanders might get it done if they'd also throw in a late 2026 pick
02:54And take cornerback greg newsom the second and is fully guaranteed 13 million dollar 2025 fifth year option off the browns hands
03:02So he likes the washington offer the most
03:07What
03:08This exercise does as mentioned is it?
03:11it
03:12implies
03:13We can sit here and put together deals that we think make sense
03:19What only thing that gets this done is being the best offer that they get
03:24and so
03:26If somebody else is willing to go further you're either a out or b have to add
03:34The detroit picks of two firsts a third and hendon hooker
03:39Are such a thousand percent yes for me
03:42From a detroit perspective. I can't imagine that would be the best offer that they would get
03:48I would I would have to think if again if we're doing radio in cleveland i'd be like this is the best offer
03:55Here is I mean and this is the a sort of unknown factor in this with with that offer for cleveland
04:02Detroit is the only team that we've mentioned there that's offering up a quarterback
04:07now
04:09And hendon hooker hasn't really played much as we know but he does have a huge upside
04:14The player he was in college prior to getting hurt
04:18Was going to win the heisman trophy until he got hurt
04:22He was awfully good
04:24he's played very sparingly in his first couple years in the league because of recovering from that injury and then this year just because
04:30Fortunately knocking on wood that jared goff has been healthy for the lions that you don't need to
04:36to use a backup quarterback
04:39It's but it's an unknown commodity because you haven't seen him you don't really know what he is
04:43It's just a thought of how high his ceiling is and if you're cleveland, you need a quarterback
04:49You're stuck right now for at least another year
04:52with
04:54With a horrible situation
04:56at quarterback
04:57And you're john watson's contract which is I think a 72 million dollar cap hit each of the next two years
05:02Now you could draft one with the second overall pick that you have
05:07But
05:08I mean i'm not in love with cam ward. I'm not in love with chador sanders and i'm not in love with jackson dart
05:14I think they're all good quarterbacks, but none of them scream to me like oh this guy is can't miss
05:19And not that hendon hooker does either
05:22But what hendon hooker would offer you if i'm trying to sweeten this for detroit's side
05:27What he offers cleveland is that okay? He's completely healthy now
05:31He's got a couple years under his belt of sitting on the sidelines watching a team work with
05:37And it's a team that has the best offense in football
05:41That you might feel better about that and I don't have to use a second pick overall on a quarterback. I can use that
05:47On either abdul carter if he's there to replace miles garrett
05:51Or I go out and take you know, travis hunter
05:55Who's a two-way player could be a great receiver or the best cover corner in in college football here?
06:01I can use one of those
06:03And really kind of set myself forward
06:06Yeah to me
06:08Personally if i'm in cleveland shoes hendon hooker to me is not a commodity
06:13He's a throw-in
06:15he's not a player that I would have much of it i'd be like
06:19At the end i'd be like also see if you can get hendon hooker. I wouldn't be building a you have him as a
06:26A real piece. I was think I was getting back. Well, that's also the unknown
06:29You don't know what another organization thinks you don't know how highly they regarded that player
06:35They may they may say the same thing you're saying or they may be more on where i'm at where I think he's got
06:40I think he still has huge upside, but
06:42He's getting blocked here in detroit because detroit's got a great. Yeah
06:45I I look at a player who's 27 years old and has barely played and i'm not sure that I can even
06:51I would have to have loved him out of college, but even then
06:55Davin is sitting on the bench with very little evidence of what he can do in the nfl personally
07:00I wouldn't I wouldn't have that much interest other than
07:04To throw him in at the end kind of kind of deal
07:07Is he intriguing?
07:10Yeah
07:10But given what they're going to want to do
07:13I think they're going to draft a quarterback this year or next year
07:15I think they're going to be like the lions were when they traded for the two picks
07:19uh for matthew stafford is originally the thought was we're going to get a
07:24quarterback with one of these two picks
07:26I think the likelihood of hendon hooker being able to answer the bell at quarterback the way jared golf did are very very slim but
07:33Maybe maybe they love him, right? Um
07:36So the funny thing is as I looked at the feedback that came in
07:40there was a lot of
07:43Of you've got to get miles garrett if he's available you have to get him
07:47And I would say if he's available you have to call
07:51I would go that far
07:52I wouldn't say if he's available. You have to get him
07:55I want to take you back into the wayback machine to the trade deadline this year. No the way back. Yes
08:00So we're going to go all the way back like two two and a half months here
08:04Do you remember the mike tannenbaum?
08:06Trade proposal I do
08:09for miles garrett
08:11Mike tannenbaum, I don't want I don't want you to repeat it because it's uncomfortable
08:15Mike tannenbaum suggested that detroit to get miles garrett give up a 2025 first
08:22a 2026 first
08:24a 2027 first
08:27and jameer gibbs
08:29for miles garrett
08:34Can we all agree it's okay to walk away it's okay to walk away
08:41You're allowed to walk away
08:44And I think we'd all have different sliding scale as to when you would walk away
08:52But
08:53Yeah, there's plenty of examples of walk away
08:56Trade proposals and that's why
08:58I could never say some of the feedback we saw yesterday
09:02I mean there were some people fully committed to making this happen. No matter what the cost and i'm in the um
09:07It's okay to say no
09:09because
09:10I go back to something we said yesterday
09:14They came they went 15 and 2 with half a defense
09:18In theory they're going to be getting all those guys back others will get hurt
09:22They probably are going to have more luck next year with injuries
09:26They already went 15 and 2 were the one seed and a strong super bowl contender without miles garrett
09:34They not just they will be better
09:37Just by standing pat they'll be better
09:40let alone
09:42What they could do with a little bit of cap space
09:45and their draft capital
09:47Which is why again?
09:49I don't know that if i'm detroit I call I ask
09:54But if some of these offers come in
09:56This becomes that that make you have to really really dig deep. I i'm okay with walking away. Well