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00:00Tsuneo Watanabe of the Sasakawa Peace Foundation, who is an expert in foreign policy in the U.S.
00:29Koichiro Tanaka of Keio University, who is an expert in international relations in the Middle East.
00:38Yoko Hirose of Keio University, who is an expert in research in the former Soviet Union.
00:47Let's take a look at today's topic.
00:51Today's topic is how President Trump's inauguration will change the course of the war.
00:58What will happen to the war between Russia and the Middle East?
01:04This week, President Trump talked about the forced migration of refugees from Gaza.
01:14I'd like to talk about what will happen.
01:18I'd also like to talk about Putin's dealings with Zelensky.
01:26I'd also like to talk about Putin's dealings with Zelensky.
01:29And the words below,
01:32If it were Trump, the invasion would not have happened.
01:35These are the words that President Putin said.
01:38It looks like he's sending a wave of messages to Trump.
01:43It looks like he's sending a wave of messages to Trump.
01:48It looks like he's sending a wave of messages to Trump.
01:53I'd like to dig deep into the difficult part of today's topic.
01:58And on February 1st, Trump's tariffs will actually start moving from today.
02:04On February 1st, President Revit announced that he would impose a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico.
02:12And he said he would implement a 10% additional tariff on China.
02:17President Trump said it was up to the president to decide when to withdraw.
02:23However, he said he would implement natural gas and crude oil on February 18th.
02:29He said he was considering a 10% reduction on Canada's crude oil.
02:34And there's been a move to oppose it.
02:37Canada's Prime Minister Trudeau said,
02:40We are ready to respond. We are willing, cooperative, and rational to respond immediately.
02:45It's not what we want, but if President Trump takes action, we will take action.
02:50And the Mexican President, Shane Baum, said,
02:53According to the US government's decision, there is a plan A, B, C.
02:58In response to the news that tariffs were in effect,
03:02Inflation has increased, dollars have been bought, and yen has been sold.
03:07The New York stock market has fallen.
03:10Mr. Watanabe, in the end, it's going to be implemented as promised.
03:15What do you think?
03:16If we don't implement it as promised, we won't be able to pay tariffs.
03:23Tariffs won't be a weapon for President Trump.
03:27But now, for example, it affects the stock market and inflation.
03:33I don't like this for Mr. Trump.
03:36I won't do anything first.
03:40I'll look at the market situation and inflation.
03:42Then I'll look at how the other party is doing.
03:45If the other party gives me information, that's fine.
03:48This negotiation will continue.
03:51But first, I think it's a first battle.
03:54In Canada, the reason is not 25%, but 10%.
04:00This is certainly going to resonate with the gas station.
04:04Mr. Trump is also cautious about this.
04:08On the contrary, from a Toro perspective, it's a weapon.
04:10That's right.
04:12It's the same with countermeasures.
04:15In the last election, Mr. Trump's biggest expectation was to reduce the price of goods.
04:24In particular, the price of gasoline is directly related to the lives of Americans.
04:29If we reduce that, the price of gasoline will go up.
04:35Mr. Trump's way of thinking is that the price of gasoline is a weapon.
04:42It's hard to do that, but it's better to look at it as Japan.
04:47There is also the US-Japan trade talks.
04:50It's good that the price of gasoline is not falling in Japan.
04:55But if the price of gasoline goes up in Mexico, it will have a great impact on Japanese companies.
04:59I'm sure it's not a good development.
05:01The US-Japan trade talks are expected to be held next Friday.
05:07I would like to follow up on this in the next week's program.
05:11After the commercial break, we will take a look at whether the US-Japan trade talks will be held in the Middle East after President Trump's inauguration.
05:17On January 30, three Israelis, who were hostages in Gaza in the Palestinian Autonomous Region, were released on the basis of a ceasefire agreement between Israel and the Islamic organization Hamas.
05:35The handover of hostages was the third time since the declaration of war on the 19th of last month.
05:41The release of hostages will be held on the 1st.
05:45The Israeli side has also advanced the release of Palestinians, which has been customary so far.
05:54The first stage of the ceasefire is going well so far, but it is still unclear whether a high-level ceasefire can be realized.
06:03Meanwhile, President Trump of the United States said this.
06:12I'd like Egypt to take people and I'd like Jordan to take people.
06:18You're talking about probably a million and a half people.
06:23And we just clean out that whole thing.
06:27He wants refugees from Gaza to be accepted by neighboring countries.
06:34The Egyptian people are against this statement.
06:38Many people gathered in Rafa's office and the voice of protest rose.
06:46Egyptian President Sisi has stated that he will not participate in the illegal act of expelling the Palestinians.
06:54Jordan has also shown a position of rejecting Trump's proposal.
07:01President Trump is scheduled to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu on the 4th.
07:08What will be discussed about the future of Gaza?
07:14And President Trump is also interested in the expansion of the Abraham Accords.
07:21How will he pave the way for the Middle East peace?
07:27Meanwhile, President Trump, who claimed to end the Ukraine invasion in 24 hours,
07:34Is it possible to realize a ceasefire?
07:38This year, the goal of the ceasefire has been postponed for less than 6 months.
07:44However, President Putin of Russia and I discussed the idea of proceeding with the negotiations.
07:52On the 22nd of last month, he posted on his SNS,
07:57It's time to end this stupid war.
08:01The situation is just getting worse.
08:05He warned that if he did not comply with the ceasefire negotiations,
08:10he would impose the highest level of taxes and sanctions on imports from Russia.
08:16In addition, at the Davos conference on the 23rd of last month,
08:32he said, he is trying to realize a ceasefire by various means.
08:39President Putin said that the negotiations are ready,
08:43and he is eager to talk to President Trump.
08:48However, Zelenskiy of Ukraine, who is ahead of the presidential election,
08:53is not a legitimate president, and he cannot negotiate.
09:01On the other hand, President Zelenskiy,
09:05He said that it is impossible to exclude Ukraine from any peace negotiations.
09:14Will Ukraine's ceasefire negotiations proceed?
09:20How will the situation between Ukraine and the Middle East change?
09:24First, let's look at the first topic, the Middle East.
09:28President Trump of the United States will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu
09:33at the White House on the 4th of next week.
09:36Prime Minister Netanyahu will be the first foreign minister to meet with President Trump
09:40at the White House on the 4th of next week.
09:43He will talk about the continuation of the ceasefire in Gaza,
09:47the rule of law, and the normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
09:52Mr. Tanaka, let's start with Prime Minister Netanyahu.
09:56There is a lot of criticism, but in the end,
09:59Prime Minister Netanyahu is the first one to meet with President Trump.
10:03What do you think about this?
10:05I don't think it's a wish for the Israeli Prime Minister.
10:10I think it's important for them.
10:13In other words, it shows that their voice will be heard in American politics.
10:18Especially for Mr. Trump, it will be effective.
10:22Also, the conflict in Gaza, which has been going on for a year and four months,
10:27is now temporarily on hold.
10:30No one can predict what will happen next.
10:33So I think it's very important for Israel to sell the Gaza situation in Gaza to Mr. Trump
10:40and get the cornerstone.
10:44I think that's what they're aiming for.
10:47Also, it wasn't in the script, but the important point is that
10:51there was a two-way war between Iran and Israel last year.
10:56I think it's going to take a lot of energy to figure out how to deal with Iran.
11:00Mr. Watanabe, what do you think?
11:03Well, President Trump is actually one of the big supporters of Israel,
11:09who won the presidential election.
11:13He's a big supporter of Israel.
11:16He's also a big believer in religion.
11:19In fact, he showed his face at the inauguration ceremony.
11:24There was a chairman of a casino business called Miriam Adelson.
11:28There was a chairman of a casino business called Miriam Adelson.
11:33I think Israel is a basic line.
11:36And the other thing is,
11:39when you want to make a foreign legacy like the Nobel Peace Prize,
11:44of course, one is the first war in Ukraine.
11:47The other thing is the expansion of the Abraham Accords.
11:51Israel is a major player in many ways.
11:54However, if you focus too much on Israel,
11:58what's actually important is the Saudi side.
12:02So it's obvious that there's a lot of contradiction.
12:06In the meantime, there was a surprising statement this week.
12:11President Trump said that he wanted to build a house in another place
12:16where he could live in peace with the Arab people living in Gaza.
12:20He said he wanted to build a house in another place where he could live in peace with the Arab people living in Gaza.
12:25In response, the Jordanian Saudi Foreign Minister strongly rejected the Palestinians' resignation.
12:30In response, the Jordanian Saudi Foreign Minister strongly rejected the Palestinians' resignation.
12:35Egyptian President Mohamed Bin Salman also refuted the Palestinians' migration.
12:41Egyptian President Mohamed Bin Salman also refuted the Palestinians' migration.
12:44It's about the reconstruction of Gaza.
12:48In May last year, the Israeli Prime Minister announced Gaza 2035, which is a plan to return Gaza to its original position and eventually reintegrate it into the regional economy.
13:04President Trump said that if it is properly rebuilt during the presidential election, it will be a better place than Monaco, and that it will be one of the best places in the world if it involves real estate development.
13:16He said that the land is the best in the Middle East and that everything is the best.
13:22Mr. Tanaka, how do you feel about this idea and the statement that it will be implemented?
13:29Well, it's reckless, isn't it?
13:32It's not like there was any international law or anything like that.
13:35First of all, I was a little surprised that the idea was left to the developer's father.
13:40Another problem is that if the residents of Gaza want such unilateral development and if they can continue to live there as a result of that development, I think they will be included in a program called the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip.
13:55But it's not that, it's the people who live in Gaza now, and the people who have already become refugees in Gaza.
14:01This idea of bringing these people to other countries is actually quite common among members of the United States Senate.
14:10I think this is the root of the idea that leads to national purification, no matter how you think about it.
14:18Well, Trump's statement is that he might come back.
14:24I think there's a little bit of an image that he's working as a worker in this.
14:31Even so, I don't know.
14:34Well, the idea, or the development plan, was launched when Jared Kushner, his son, was in power.
14:44At that time, he used the phrase, from peace to prosperity.
14:47This time, he used the phrase, from tree to prosperity.
14:49There's a little bit of a play on words.
14:52At that time, the idea was to move the power of Palestine to another place and create a Palestinian state in another place.
15:01There was a trend of thinking about a two-state solution on top of that at the time.
15:06So this time, the government was the second one to bring it out.
15:10I think it's also in his head that Gaza is in a state of being a mountain of rubble, and that it's a good place to settle down.
15:19Mr. Hiroshi is a Russian expert.
15:22How does it look from a Russian point of view that Trump is conscious of this in the Middle East?
15:30In the first place, Russia, when the Gaza struggle began,
15:34the eyes of the world were rather on the Middle East than the dark side.
15:39At first, I thought it was a good thing.
15:42But as the situation became complicated, Iran, which is now an important partner in supporting the war effort,
15:50is also involved in this Gaza issue.
15:53And Syria is going to be lost in this war.
15:57Russia is also getting a direct influence.
16:01In that sense, I think it's convenient for Putin to have Trump stop Gaza.
16:11Mr. Tanaka, the reality is that Egypt and Jordan are rejecting it,
16:18but in reality, I think this is possible.
16:21I'm sure Trump is going to make a deal where he's going to say,
16:25even if you put pressure on them, take the refugees.
16:30What do you think about that?
16:32Of course, I think it's possible that he's going to put pressure on the part of the country that he's accepting.
16:39The problem is, these 2.1 million people in Gaza,
16:42it doesn't matter if it's 1.5 million of them,
16:45how do you get these people to move?
16:48Are they going to put a gun behind them and make them move?
16:52If that's the case, it's natural that the United States will be subjected to the International Court of Justice.
16:59To put it simply, in various ways,
17:03the side that has been promoting the so-called law-based order-making has turned into a change force,
17:12or it looks like it's a reformist.
17:16The flow of change is really dangerous.
17:19Mr. Watanabe, how serious is Trump?
17:23I don't know, but it's very unlikely.
17:26I don't know how serious he is.
17:29But for Trump, as I said at the beginning,
17:32the Abraham Accords, I think this is serious.
17:35When he makes the Abraham Accords,
17:39it's like what Mr. Trump is saying.
17:42If he were to do something like national purification,
17:45it would be a shame for the Arabs,
17:48and they would never be able to ride it.
17:51So I don't think he's very serious.
17:54Anyway, there's a lot of contradiction,
17:57so at least one of the big contradictions is that
18:00he's putting pressure on Jordan and Egypt to accept these Palestinians.
18:07I don't think Mr. Trump thinks it's a contradiction.
18:10You mentioned the Abraham Accords earlier,
18:13but this time as well,
18:15it was the same during the first administration,
18:18but Mr. Trump is saying that he's going to make Saudi Arabia the first country to visit,
18:22and that's what he's saying this time as well.
18:25And Ambassador Muhammad is also saying that
18:28he's going to do a lot of trade,
18:31and he's sending a lot of troops to the United States.
18:34I think what Mr. Trump is saying is that
18:37even if he does that,
18:40Saudi Arabia, which is an Arab country,
18:43is going to invade Gaza,
18:46and if he does that,
18:49he's going to get angry,
18:52and I think he's thinking of a national recovery
18:55between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
18:58I think that's what he's saying.
19:01Actually, the Biden administration
19:04was negotiating with Saudi Arabia and Israel,
19:07but as the conflict in Gaza intensified,
19:10Saudi Arabia couldn't move.
19:13So as long as that situation continues,
19:16Saudi Arabia can't move.
19:19In many ways, Saudi Arabia wants to invest in Israel and the United States,
19:22and they're also very hostile to Iran,
19:25so they want to corner Iran.
19:28I don't think it's going to be easy
19:31to get into the United States
19:34when there's a lot of dissatisfaction around the world.
19:37First of all, what's going on with the ceasefire in front of you?
19:40This is the roadmap for the Gaza ceasefire.
19:43It's three stages.
19:46The first stage of six weeks from January 19
19:49is when Hamas releases 33 women and elderly people,
19:52and Israel stops attacking Gaza for a while
19:55and releases 400 Palestinians.
19:58So far, Hamas has released 10 people,
20:01and five others have been released.
20:04Israel has released 400 Palestinians.
20:07And on February 1,
20:10Hamas is planning to release three hostages.
20:13And during this ceasefire,
20:16Hamas will release the remaining hostages,
20:19and Israel will aim for a complete withdrawal of the army.
20:22Hamas plans to return the hostages
20:25and Israel will start the reconstruction of Gaza.
20:28Mr. Tanaka,
20:31from the first stage to the third stage,
20:34when you talk about the withdrawal plan,
20:37it seems to be completely contradictory.
20:40What's going on with the roadmap for the ceasefire?
20:43I'm more interested in the release of the hostages
20:46and the exchange of hostages.
20:49In fact, Israel is still attacking Gaza.
20:52It's not as big as it used to be,
20:55so it's not very noticeable.
20:58But I can say that this story is still going on.
21:01There are various reasons why the Israeli army
21:04is attacking Gaza.
21:07There are various reasons why the Israeli army
21:10is attacking Gaza.
21:13I don't know if it will be able to step up
21:16in control of Gaza or not in the upcoming withdrawal.
21:19I don't know if it will be able to step up in control of Gaza or not in the upcoming withdrawal.
21:22I don't know if some Polish or Hamas members
21:25will really protect themselves
21:31or the safety of their residents.
21:34This is likely to be more of a turning point
21:37below in the up coming withdrawal.
21:40I would say that, on top of Gaza,
21:43The attack on Gaza is getting more and more intense.
21:46Yes, the Israeli army seems to be moving in that direction.
21:50If you look at the situation,
21:53you can't say that what happened in Gaza
21:56will not happen in the West Bank of the Jordan River.
21:59The problem is,
22:01the way the citizens of Israel think,
22:04their opinions on what to do with Gaza are divided.
22:08Of course, there is the extreme opinion
22:11of the West Bank of the Jordan River,
22:14but there is also the opinion that we should not go that far.
22:17However, regarding the West Bank of the Jordan River,
22:20more and more people are moving forward
22:23in terms of peace.
22:26So, if we are going to do unilateral destruction
22:29like what happened in Gaza in the West Bank of the Jordan River,
22:32there will be more and more opinions
22:35to make Gaza a peaceful place.
22:38So, it may become a policy of the Netanyahu administration.
22:41On the other hand,
22:44the West Bank of the Jordan River
22:47is a place on the other side of Jerusalem,
22:50so it is a place where the Arab countries
22:53will have a voice.
22:56That's right. Of course, the area is large,
22:59and more Palestinians live there,
23:02so they should be more interested in that.
23:05However, the voice of the West Bank of the Jordan River
23:08has not risen yet.
23:11Therefore, the response of the Arab countries
23:14to the entire Palestinian population
23:17is actually quite controversial.
23:20I don't think there will be much action
23:23if the West Bank of the Jordan River
23:26and the West Bank of the Jordan River
23:29actually do something.
23:32I think there is a rail system.
23:35We talked about this a lot
23:38during the Biden administration.
23:41Therefore, we can say that
23:44there are various conditions.
23:47However, in the current situation,
23:50I think it is difficult
23:53for Mohammed bin Salman,
23:56the most powerful man in Saudi Arabia,
23:59to say that the United States
24:02will guarantee that.
24:05I think he was able to agree on words
24:08or on paper,
24:11but now that the Palestinian state
24:14has been established,
24:17I think it is time to step up
24:20the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
24:23After the commercial break,
24:27the second topic.
24:30Will the Russian government
24:33impose sanctions?
24:36First, let's look back
24:39at President Trump's statement
24:42regarding the Ukraine settlement.
24:45During the presidential election,
24:48President Trump said that
24:51he wanted to end the Ukraine settlement
24:54with Russia.
25:17Ms. Hiroshi, what do you think
25:20of President Trump's statement?
25:23President Trump said that
25:26he wanted to end the war
25:29within 24 hours.
25:32I think he understood
25:35how difficult it was
25:38to end the war
25:41and how complicated it was
25:44when he saw the reality
25:47after winning the presidential election.
25:50At the same time,
25:53Russia and Ukraine
25:56cannot find a compromise.
25:59The conditions for peace
26:02are completely different.
26:05It is also difficult to
26:08establish a relationship
26:11with Europe.
26:14President Trump wants to
26:17get rid of Russia
26:20and Ukraine.
26:23However, if Russia withdraws,
26:26it will become a problem
26:29for Afghanistan.
26:32President Trump said
26:35that he will reduce the price
26:38of oil and gas.
26:41What do you think of this?
26:44If Russia does not withdraw,
26:47peace will not be established.
26:50Russia is putting pressure on Russia.
26:53If Russia withdraws,
26:56there will be a certain amount
26:59of damage to Russia.
27:02Russia will be able to
27:05postpone the war for a while.
27:08Russia and the United States
27:11will have to deal with
27:14the cost of agriculture.
27:17If Russia withdraws,
27:20it will be a problem.
27:23I think the United States
27:26has a more difficult situation.
27:29Mr. Tanaka,
27:32you said that Russia
27:35will reduce the price of oil and gas.
27:38Do you think Russia will be able
27:41to reduce the price of oil and gas?
27:44There are various reasons for
27:47the stability of oil and gas.
27:50Russia will pretend to listen
27:53to Saudi Arabia,
27:56but I don't think
27:59they will continue to do so.
28:02Their economy is still
28:05very weak.
28:08Even if Saudi Arabia
28:11produces a lot of oil and gas,
28:14if the price of oil and gas
28:17drops, it will affect
28:20the sale of oil and gas in the United States.
28:23It's a weak economy.
28:26It's a weak economy.
28:29It's a weak economy.
28:32It's a weak economy.
28:35It's a weak economy.
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35:41Mr. Watanabe,
35:44Mr. Watanabe,
35:47Mr. Watanabe,
35:50Mr. Watanabe,
35:53Mr. Watanabe,
35:56Mr. Watanabe,
35:59Mr. Watanabe,
36:02Mr. Watanabe,
36:05Mr. Watanabe,
36:08Mr. Watanabe,
36:11Mr. Watanabe,
36:14Mr. Watanabe,
36:17Mr. Watanabe,
36:20Mr. Watanabe,
36:23Mr. Watanabe,
36:26Mr. Watanabe,
36:29Mr. Watanabe,
36:32Mr. Watanabe,
36:35Mr. Watanabe,
36:38Mr. Watanabe,
36:41Mr. Watanabe,
36:44Mr. Watanabe,
36:47Mr. Watanabe,
36:50Mr. Watanabe,
36:53Mr. Watanabe,
36:56Mr. Watanabe,
36:59Mr. Watanabe,
37:02Mr. Watanabe,
37:05Mr. Kellogg, what do you think about this case, including Mr. Kellogg's personality?
37:11What Mr. Kellogg knows for sure is that the United States will continue military support after the end of the war.
37:20This is different from what Trump's political supporters think.
37:27I think he's a very realistic person.
37:30This is a report from April of last year, so there is some intention that Trump will oppose Biden and run for office.
37:41It's better to look at it briefly, but it's realistic to some extent, and this person is also realistic.
37:47I think it's a little different from Trump, who is currently in charge of national security insurance.
38:00I think there are some points of discussion.
38:02One is to create a non-armored unit and stop the war once there.
38:08What will happen to the fortifications and other things on the territory?
38:14As you can see here, Russia has been occupying this dark color since 2014.
38:21And now, Russia's dominance has spread to this red area.
38:30Ms. Hirose, it is thought that you will create a non-armored area here.
38:36What do you think about this?
38:38First of all, as a prerequisite, Russia wants to take control of all four eastern and southern parts of Ukraine and then create a non-armored area.
38:52In fact, since Trump won, Russia's aggression has become very strong.
38:58What you're saying is that President Putin wants to create a non-armored area ahead of these four areas?
39:05That's exactly right.
39:07I see.
39:08These four areas have already been written in Russian law as Russian territory.
39:15I think it's a non-armored area with a plus alpha.
39:20As for Ukraine, the concept of a non-armored area has been in place until recently.
39:25Russia has been trying to get out of the front line, so it's hard to accept.
39:32However, President Zelensky has recently changed his attitude.
39:38At the end of November last year, he said that if the remaining territory could be incorporated into NATO,
39:45it would be a target for future negotiations to regain the territory taken by Russia.
39:54However, the fact that NATO is incorporated is not very realistic, so I think it's actually difficult.
40:01The other issue is the guarantee of security.
40:06As I said earlier, the U.S. government has said that it will not be able to enter NATO immediately.
40:14According to the press release, it will take about 20 years.
40:19On the other hand, how do you guarantee security?
40:24As for the non-armored area, or somewhere in Ukraine,
40:31it is said that President Zelensky needs at least 200,000 people to support the peacekeeping forces.
40:44President Macron of France is particularly active in this regard.
40:49President Macron is active in pacifying.
40:52Of course, it is difficult to get along with the number of people, but that's what he said.
40:59President Zelensky also said that NATO should protect it.
41:04President Trump also strongly demanded that NATO pay national defense expenses.
41:11President Trump also said that NATO should invest 5% of its GDP.
41:20What do you think about the guarantee of security?
41:24This is also a very difficult issue.
41:27As for Ukraine, the U.K., the U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
41:42However, the U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
41:50The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
41:55The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:00The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:05The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:10The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:15The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:20The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:24The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:27The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:30The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:33The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:36The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:39The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:42The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:45The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:48The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:51The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:54The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
42:57The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
43:00The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
43:03The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
43:06The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
43:09The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
43:12The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
43:15The U.K. and the U.K. will protect the security guarantee of Ukraine.
43:18If Putin attacks Russia,
43:21if Putin attacks Russia,
43:24if Putin attacks Russia,
43:27will it not be a deterrent to Russia?
43:30Will it not be a deterrent to Russia?
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46:27Why did this happen?
46:30Because Iran was cornered.
46:33Because Iran was cornered.
46:36Because Iran was cornered.
46:39Because Iran was cornered.
46:42Because Iran was cornered.
46:45Because Iran was cornered.
46:48Because Iran was cornered.
46:51Because Iran was cornered.
46:54Because Iran was cornered.
46:57Because Iran was cornered.
47:00Because Iran was cornered.
47:03Because Iran was cornered.
47:06Because Iran was cornered.
47:09Because Iran was cornered.
47:12Because Iran was cornered.
47:15Because Iran was cornered.
47:18Because Iran was cornered.
47:21This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
47:24This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
47:27This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
47:30This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
47:33This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
47:36This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
47:39This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
47:42This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
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48:12This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:15This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
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48:21This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
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48:27This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:30This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:33This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:36This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:39This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:42This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:45This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:48This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:51This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:54This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
48:57This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
49:00This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
49:03This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
49:06This is Shinjiro Koizumi.
49:09First of all, you have to make a good relationship.
49:12First of all, you have to make a good relationship.
49:15First of all, you have to make a good relationship.
49:18I think that if the chemistry is good, it will be different.
49:21I think that if the chemistry is good, it will be different.
49:24I think that if the chemistry is good, it will be different.
49:27I think that if the chemistry is good, it will be different.
49:30I think that if the chemistry is good, it will be different.
49:33I think that if the chemistry is good, it will be different.
49:36I think that if the chemistry is good, it will be different.
49:39So, I think that American employment and investment are important.
49:42So, I think that American employment and investment are important.
49:45Thank you very much for your time today.
50:06you