Dana B | Dana Learns
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00:00Well, Mr. Beers.
00:01What's up, brother?
00:02Happy holidays.
00:04Thank you to you, yes.
00:06I'm going to say Merry Christmas.
00:07Yeah.
00:08I'm just going to go ahead and say it.
00:09I'm not Jewish or a Kwanzud.
00:12Even if you were, I'd still say it.
00:15I'm struggling, Francis.
00:17Yeah, what's going on here?
00:18I just got off an airplane and I can't...
00:19I don't know my volume right now.
00:21I don't know if I'm too loud.
00:23I don't know if I'm normal.
00:24I can barely hear you.
00:26I'm struggling.
00:27What's your technique for...
00:28It's your ears.
00:29Yeah.
00:30How do you do that?
00:30Yeah.
00:31How do I do it?
00:33Oh, you do that?
00:35I'm just fucked.
00:36I'm fucked.
00:37We're wearing our beautiful Nautica threads.
00:39And I got to say, I'm feeling pretty festive and cozy.
00:44It's raining out right now.
00:45I could go outside without a problem in the world.
00:49With this sucker on.
00:51Correct.
00:52Shop for all your holiday gifts at the Nautica gift guide on nautica.com.
00:56You can buy some of those gifts with a credit card.
01:00But beware, credit cards are a slippery slope.
01:03Don't I know it.
01:04How much debt do you have on your credit card?
01:07Have you been paying it down?
01:09I kind of just do my own thing.
01:11What a wonderfully sound financial plan.
01:14Do you have any idea what your interest payment is on that?
01:19What your percentage?
01:20Your APR?
01:21No.
01:22It is the interest percentage that you will pay on balances you carry forward month to month.
01:28Okay.
01:29The average annual percentage rate for most credit cards, the average, is I think it's 24.43%.
01:39That's just $$$$ a month that you are having to spend as a result of having spent money.
01:47I'm okay with that.
01:49No, you shouldn't be.
01:50I'm fine with that.
01:51There's no reason that that should exist in your life, that tax.
01:56And by the way, if you're not paying off that amount and your balance is going up, that number keeps getting bigger and bigger.
02:04It's called compounding.
02:05Yeah, but I see that number and I don't get worried.
02:09Imagine if you parked your car in a place where you knew you were going to get parking tickets.
02:20I've done it several times.
02:22Yeah, and you just left it there because you said, I don't really mind paying these parking tickets.
02:31But there was a way to park your car in a place nearby that still costs a little bit of money, but you were never going to get parking tickets.
02:41Yeah, I mean when you put it that way.
02:43Can I tell you why I don't mind that much?
02:46Why?
02:47I think I'm going to get rich someday.
02:49This is so fucking frustrating.
02:51Even if you are, you still shouldn't be okay with this.
02:55If you were to go to a bank and take out a loan on which you would have to pay interest payments and debt,
03:02right now, the Fed has interest rates for central banks set at...
03:1113.
03:12No, I think it's like 5%.
03:14Oh!
03:15Why don't I just do that?
03:18Well, there you go.
03:19I would do that.
03:20You can borrow money much more cheaply if you don't do it through your credit card.
03:25But I don't get SkyMiles that way.
03:29I can't take a trip to Scottsdale to see Papa Beers and play some golf off miles.
03:34That's how they seduce you.
03:36What about like a backup quarterback jersey?
03:39Is that worth it?
03:41If it brings me happiness?
03:43I'm not telling you not to buy a backup quarterback jersey.
03:46But I would say that if the choice is between that and putting that money towards paying down your credit card balance,
03:53I know where I would be putting that.
03:55If I were to look through your spending and ask you,
03:59What's that?
04:00You want me to pull some off?
04:01There would be a few things in there that I'd say,
04:03Really?
04:04You're not going to be happy with me.
04:05Well...
04:10Yeah.
04:12Ha ha ha ha ha.
04:14Ah.
04:15Nine bucks at the car wash.
04:17That's fine.
04:18That ain't bad.
04:19Don't mind that.
04:20You know what?
04:21I have a little chip on my shoulder.
04:22I'm like, I used to deliver pizzas when I was 24 years old.
04:25I got money now.
04:26I like fucking around a little bit.
04:28You don't have money now.
04:30You have no money.
04:32You have negative f***ing dollars.
04:35No, but then I have a 401k, which cancels that out.
04:38Can't touch that until you're 59 and a half.
04:40Yeah, but it's technically unprofitable.
04:44Each month, you are paying money on the money you owe.
04:48Yeah.
04:49And that doesn't necessarily need to happen if you can get back to level,
04:54and then force yourself to pay off your balance each month.
04:59I would love to, Francis.
05:01You just told me you have money, and you have a chip on your shoulder.
05:05I do.
05:06So now you're playing both sides.
05:08It's okay.
05:09I think.
05:10If you can start actually chipping away and get through this,
05:14you'll feel good about yourself.
05:16What about a credit score?
05:17What's going on with that?
05:18Credit score is affected by debt, as well as a number of other factors.
05:24Credit score people, don't they want you to be in debt?
05:26I don't know.
05:27I don't know that they do.
05:28Yes, they do.
05:29They do.
05:30Why?
05:31That's what they say.
05:32That's what people say.
05:33Really?
05:34I don't know.
05:35Why would a credit score company benefit from you being in debt?
05:37I don't know.
05:38That's just what I've heard.
05:39I don't know enough to disagree with you on that.
05:41I'm right.
05:42If you get to a point where you say, you know what?
05:44I've been really good.
05:45I've been paying off my credit cards.
05:47I deserve a treat.
05:49Let's go to Barbuda.
05:51Aruba.
05:52Sure.
05:53Very similar.
05:54There was a lady in Aruba once.
05:55Made the best carbonara I've ever had, just on the beach.
05:59You've been thinking about it ever since.
06:00Oh my God.
06:01All I want to do is go back to Aruba and eat that carbonara.
06:03That is the reward for when you fully pay off your credit cards.
06:07But then don't I just have another debt?
06:11I would tell you to use your credit card points that you get from paying this off to buy your
06:16flights, maybe your hotels, and try to do it within your means.
06:20Fair.
06:21All right.
06:22Yeah, fair.
06:23Thank you, Francis.
06:24Good luck.
06:25Appreciate it.
06:26And thank you to Nautica.
06:27Visit Nautica.com to purchase all your holiday gifts.