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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, I welcome you to the program.
00:13Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Singh is with us from Lahore, Haider Naqvi from Karachi, and Hassan
00:19Ajoob from Islamabad is with me as usual.
00:22Dear viewers, in Murree, a former Prime Minister, a former member of the National Assembly,
00:28a former member of the Provincial Assembly, a Tehseel Nazim, a District Nazim, and all
00:33these people are related to different political parties, PTI, People's Party, PMLN as well.
00:41Terrorism has spread against everyone.
00:43What is the story?
00:44We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:47Maulana is adamant that our law has been passed.
00:51Notify him.
00:52Apart from this, we will not agree to anything else.
00:56But today's first story, top story is our past and future discussions.
01:02Will the atmosphere of discussions in Pakistan move forward?
01:07I have four or five questions in my mind.
01:10I put them in front of my panelists.
01:12Then we will start the discussion on this.
01:14First question.
01:16Can these discussions on board without PTI move forward politically in Pakistan?
01:25Second question.
01:26Is the current government serious about these discussions?
01:30Third question.
01:32Will TTI agree to participate in these discussions?
01:39Fourth question.
01:40Who is the real obstacle in these discussions?
01:43Fifth question.
01:44Is there any other solution besides these discussions that can end the ongoing political
01:51struggle in the country?
01:53And the most important question.
01:55If the current situation continues, then the challenges of the Pakistani economy can be
02:02overcome.
02:03Viewers, these are different questions that we will talk about.
02:09We are seeing that discussions have started from different sides in terms of discussions.
02:16Our National Assembly in Pakistan is holding a session in Islamabad.
02:23The biggest forum for any political issue is the parliament.
02:29So discussions have started in the parliament.
02:32First of all, you know that there are a lot of speeches and statements.
02:39The poet Afzal Marwad has given a statement that is very different from his personality.
02:46Let's see what he has to say.
02:48No discussions can succeed unless the political forces sit at a table and discuss the TORs
02:58and then talk to the establishment.
03:02Is it not possible that we make a committee for this event?
03:07Sit down.
03:08What are the mistakes?
03:10What should be our TORs?
03:12If someone can come out of his ego to put water on the fire in Pakistan.
03:20If we can come out of our ego, we should come out of the fire in Pakistan.
03:26Khawaja Asif responded.
03:28He gave a strong statement.
03:31But Khawaja Asif has to be very serious in his satire.
03:37I don't know why he gives a comment in the end.
03:42Let's listen to him.
03:44What Marwad has said is a pleasant breeze.
03:49It's a good thing.
03:51If such voices continue to rise on this floor, many problems can be solved.
04:01You are a civil disobedient.
04:03You have a gun.
04:05I think let's cross that bridge.
04:08We will talk after that.
04:10Threats do not solve matters.
04:14There are many other statements.
04:17What is Mr. Sanaullah saying?
04:21Mr. Khawaja has said that you should first be civil disobedient.
04:27Then you can make jokes.
04:29What is Mr. Rana saying?
04:31Let's listen to him.
04:33When it was being said that instead of going to Deer Chowk,
04:40you should go to Sangjani for a protest.
04:44You can give speeches there.
04:47Whatever your program is.
04:49And for the permission of this purpose,
04:54access was also given in Adayala Jail.
04:59So it was only for jokes.
05:04It was only to talk.
05:06That instead of going to Deer Chowk,
05:09you should go to Sangjani for a protest.
05:12And then you can talk.
05:14But that was not accepted.
05:19After that, Ali Muhammad Khan was present in the parliament.
05:24He gave a very good advice.
05:27Which people and personalities can we move forward with?
05:32Mr. Mian is 70+, Mr. Zardari is 70+, Mr. Imran Khan is 70+,
05:37and Maulana Fuzul Ahmed will also be around 70+.
05:40All three big leaders should come and sit in the parliament.
05:43Let Imran Khan also come out.
05:45Imran Khan, Mian Nawaz Sharif, and Asif Ali Zardari have become the responsibility.
05:50This country has given you a lot of respect.
05:52You are nowhere.
05:53Mr. Tahir, neither in the PM House nor in the President's House.
05:56You come to the Parliament House.
05:58All three big leaders should sit.
05:59And after that, expand it.
06:01In that, Maulana, Hafiz Naeem, and along with him, H.X.Zai.
06:05Talk to Akhtar Mengal.
06:07And here, talk to MQM.
06:10Rana Sanawala has expressed similar thoughts in the past.
06:15Even today, the people who are solving this issue,
06:18there are only three big parties.
06:20They are Mian Nawaz Sharif, Asif Zardari, and Imran Khan.
06:25So, they have solved the issue.
06:27What I have said is that these are three realities.
06:30If they sit together, this country can move forward.
06:33Will Mian Nawaz Sharif accept these three parties?
06:36Mian Nawaz Sharif will be ready to sit.
06:39Let's start with you, Mr. Hassan Ayub.
06:42Without the presence of Bani PTI,
06:46without the consent of Bani PTI,
06:49without taking Bani PTI on board,
06:52can the situation in the country,
06:54or the political struggle, end?
06:58Tariq-e-Ansaab will answer this question.
07:01Because Tariq-e-Ansaab has said that they are ready for negotiations.
07:04Now, let me tell you that the government will also form a committee.
07:08I can see the formation of a committee in the next 24-36 hours.
07:13And when the committee is formed,
07:15then their committees will sit together.
07:17Now, whether they want to talk to Bani PTI or not,
07:20whether they want a mandate or not,
07:22that is the problem of Tariq-e-Ansaab.
07:24This is not the issue of the government.
07:27If they do not have a mandate to talk,
07:29then they should not sit with Bani PTI.
07:31And if they have a mandate,
07:33and they keep saying that they want to sit and negotiate,
07:36then it is obvious that they already have a mandate.
07:39Because the committee was formed by Imran Khan.
07:42Now, whether they have a status or not,
07:45this decision has to be taken by Tariq-e-Ansaab,
07:48by the members of that committee.
07:50If they do not have a mandate,
07:52then it is better to be quiet than to cry.
07:54If they say that they do not have a mandate,
07:56then we will not sit with you.
07:58We will notify the committee.
08:00I am saying that I can see a maximum of 36 hours.
08:03In that time, the committee will be notified.
08:06And the government will sit with them seriously for negotiations.
08:10But if they try to restrict Imran Khan,
08:13then there will be no negotiations.
08:15Okay, Haider Nagvi Sahib,
08:17when we were discussing the status of Taajat Qaid
08:20and the President of Pakistan Muslim League, Noon,
08:23in their party,
08:25Hasan Ayub told us that
08:27if he summons the Prime Minister now,
08:30then he can go to Lahore in 15 minutes by plane.
08:34Whether it is the cabinet of Punjab or the cabinet of the federal government,
08:39no small or big decision can be taken without the consent of the Qaid.
08:44You are in Karachi,
08:45you know the Pakistan People's Party very well.
08:48It is not possible that Asif Ali Zardari Sahib
08:51or Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib
08:53oppose something
08:55and their leadership moves forward.
08:58My fundamental question is that
09:00if a Jalsa is to be held from one place to another,
09:04as Mr. Rana Salawla mentioned,
09:06that you opened the doors of the jail early in the morning,
09:12then this is such an important issue.
09:14You have to take matters to the betterment in the country.
09:18Some time ago, when Mr. Shabaz Sharif went to Karachi,
09:21he met the businessmen there.
09:24They asked him to talk to Mr. Adayala's accountant.
09:28Obviously, he is the leader of the party.
09:30So my question is,
09:31without the consent of the Qaid of PTI,
09:35can we move forward by taking them on board?
09:39You said the other day that
09:41you were aware that they might be shifted to Benin-Kala
09:45or some other place for house arrest.
09:47So if there is such a big issue in the country,
09:51which is on the ground,
09:52and there is a fierce political fight going on,
09:54then you should take them out and talk to them.
09:58So my question is,
09:59will this be possible?
10:01Mr. Khabar, let's talk about your question a little further.
10:06There are two sides to any picture.
10:08There are three sides to this picture.
10:11The first side is that
10:12if you don't negotiate with a group
10:14that you don't even let on the streets,
10:16then what will they do for their demands
10:18and for the release of their Qaid?
10:21You answer.
10:22You don't even let them come on the streets.
10:24The second side is that
10:26let's say Imran Khan is released.
10:28Now I ask Imran Khan,
10:29what will he do when he is released?
10:31Obviously, he will try to end the government.
10:33Of course he will.
10:34Any political party that is in the opposition has the right.
10:37But Imran Khan also has to think
10:39that when he is released,
10:40if he tries to end the government,
10:43then he should end it in a political or democratic way.
10:46Just like his government ended.
10:48It should end within the parliament.
10:50It should not end on the streets.
10:54This is very important for the PGI.
10:56What is the third side to this?
10:58Now it is said that
10:59when Trump comes,
11:00everything will be better.
11:01And keeping that thought in mind,
11:03you can negotiate with Tehreek-e-Ansar,
11:05or not, or not, or not,
11:07that the truck is parked behind the light.
11:09Until Trump comes,
11:10let's see what happens.
11:11But the thing is that
11:12has the Pakistani establishment
11:14ever accepted American pressure
11:16in which there is no benefit of the establishment?
11:18Is the Pakistani Prime Minister,
11:20Nawaz Sharif's government,
11:22has he accepted the pressure of Bill Clinton
11:24that you should not conduct nuclear tests?
11:26In which Imran Khan's problem is a very small problem.
11:29The nuclear test was a problem for the whole world.
11:31But Nawaz Sharif did not accept that from the American president.
11:34So the thing is that
11:35if Donald Trump's statement also bounces back,
11:40then what will you do?
11:41Then you will also move away from that statement
11:43on which you have been standing for two years,
11:45that American slavery is unacceptable,
11:47treachery is unacceptable,
11:49and all these slogans that you keep putting up,
11:51all of them will also end.
11:53So when you look at these three things,
11:55then both the parties,
11:56Tehreek-e-Ansar and the government,
11:58both have the responsibility
11:59to move forward while looking at this thing.
12:01And you are absolutely right
12:03that will you keep fighting?
12:05We have to end this fight now
12:07and to move Pakistan forward,
12:08we have to sit together.
12:10Mr. Nagri, let's move away from Trump's statement
12:13and come back.
12:14I will bring you back to my question.
12:16My question is that
12:18do you agree that there is a political struggle in the country?
12:21Do you agree that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Ansar
12:23is a big political party?
12:25Absolutely.
12:27Is the current political struggle
12:30having a negative effect on the economy of Pakistan or not?
12:34Yes, it is.
12:35So the solution to this question is that
12:37if the discussions have to be successful,
12:40then can the discussions move forward
12:43by negating the Bani PTI?
12:45Can the discussions move forward
12:47by negating Nawaz Sharif?
12:49Can the discussions move forward
12:51by negating the Bani PTI?
12:53We will do everything through assembly.
12:55We will not do it through the streets.
12:57Just like they were changed.
12:59We will not do it through the streets.
13:01That's what I said.
13:02Let them be.
13:03I think Ali Muhammad Khan is absolutely right.
13:06Let them be.
13:07Ali Muhammad Khan has said a very good thing.
13:09I will tell you again what advice he is giving.
13:11But obviously, if someone has to agree to an advice,
13:13then they will agree to it.
13:15Ali Muhammad Khan's statement.
13:17I spoke to him again today in the National Assembly.
13:19Mr. Mian is 70+, Mr. Zardari is 70+,
13:22Mr. Imran Khan is 70+,
13:24and Mr. Maulana Fazl-e-Aman will be close to 70.
13:27All three are big leaders.
13:28They are sitting in the parliament.
13:30Let Mr. Imran Khan also come out.
13:32Mr. Imran Khan, Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif,
13:34and Mr. Asif Ali Zardari have become responsible.
13:36This country has given you a lot of respect.
13:38You are nowhere.
13:39Mr. Sanalo, neither in the PM House,
13:41nor in the President's House.
13:42You come to the Parliament House.
13:44Three big leaders are sitting.
13:46And after that, expand it.
13:48In that, Mr. Maulana, Mr. Hafiz Naeem,
13:50and along with him, Mr. H.A. Zahid.
13:52Talk to Akhtar Mengal too, man.
13:54And here, talk to MQM too.
13:58Again, Mr. Rana Sanalo,
14:00you have said this a long time ago,
14:02that these three are big leaders.
14:03Politicians, big politicians.
14:04At the moment, there are three parties in the parliament.
14:06So, these political parties have to come together
14:08and find a solution.
14:10Even today, there are three big parties
14:12to solve this issue.
14:14They are Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif,
14:16Mr. Asif Zardari,
14:18and Mr. Imran Khan.
14:20So, they have to solve the issue.
14:22What I have said,
14:24that these are three realities.
14:26If they sit together,
14:28then this country can move forward.
14:30Will Mian Nawaz Sharif accept these three realities?
14:32Mian Nawaz Sharif will be ready to sit.
14:34And Mr. Chaudhary,
14:36yesterday, Mr. Rauf Hassan
14:38gave us the news,
14:40that the leaders of Bani PTI
14:42want to meet
14:44the other senior leaders
14:46of the opposition.
14:48They want to widen the gap.
14:50What do you think?
14:52Mr. Khan has to decide.
14:54By the way, Mr. Khan has called them
14:56for the meeting.
14:58He has called four or five leaders.
15:00He has called Mr. Mahmood Achakzai,
15:02and he has called
15:04Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
15:06Now, it is up to the government
15:08whether they will allow it or not.
15:10Sir, you should do one thing.
15:12These leaders should go on the day of the meeting
15:14and stand outside Adiala.
15:16This itself will be big news.
15:18A huge news.
15:20Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman should stand outside Adiala jail
15:22and they are not allowed to go inside.
15:24Today, Mr. Imran Khan has invited them.
15:26I have been told that
15:28he has taken the initiative
15:30to invite them.
15:32Mr. Chaudhary Gulamshan,
15:34these are three senior leaders.
15:36Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
15:38Mr. Mahmood Achakzai,
15:40and Mr. Mangal.
15:42Mr. Achakzai and Mr. Mangal
15:44have already met.
15:46They want to meet.
15:48We are seeing that
15:50Mr. Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
15:52and Mr. Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab
15:54are getting along well.
15:56If these three leaders
15:58meet in Adiala,
16:00it will be a big news.
16:02Do you see this happening in the coming days?
16:06Why should they stand outside?
16:08They should be allowed to meet
16:10in Adiala and they should meet.
16:12Is this a show
16:14that they should stand outside?
16:16It doesn't mean that
16:18they will go by car.
16:20Yes, Mr. Chaudhary.
16:22They should meet
16:24with respect
16:26and respect.
16:28You are not putting
16:30a good tradition
16:32that Ali Ameen was not allowed to meet.
16:34He went there yesterday
16:36and he was not allowed to meet.
16:38Now you come to the real questions.
16:40Which one do you want to ask me?
16:42Sir, I am asking you this question.
16:44I have asked this first question
16:46to the other two respected people.
16:48You are the most respected person
16:50in the program.
16:52Can the issue of PTI
16:54be solved
16:56in this mockery?
17:00Minus Imran Khan,
17:02nothing will happen.
17:04What will happen next?
17:06Let's move ahead.
17:08So, how will this
17:10political issue be solved?
17:12These three big issues.
17:14Can these three big leaders
17:16solve these issues?
17:18Mr. Khawar Goman,
17:20no one knows better than you
17:22when this mockery
17:24will happen, when it will happen,
17:26today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow.
17:28These two groups
17:30or all the groups,
17:32some will be sitting
17:34in front of the curtain,
17:36some will be sitting behind it.
17:38All these groups will sit
17:40at the table when
17:42the basic agreement will be
17:44that these demands will be accepted
17:46and this will be pending
17:48and this will give this guarantee
17:50because at this time
17:52PTI and Bani PTI
17:54have become
17:56such a big power in Pakistan
17:58that no one is in a position
18:00to stand in front of them.
18:02And you are seeing that day by day
18:04their confidence and passion
18:06is increasing.
18:08Whatever happened with them,
18:10I don't want to go into that.
18:12You have to come to terms
18:14with PTI and its leadership.
18:16No matter what.
18:18You are not taking
18:20any good steps.
18:22It is better to talk
18:24and if the matter is resolved
18:26and Imran Khan also agrees
18:28then nothing like it.
18:30You are talking about
18:32shifting Bani Ghala.
18:34Let me ask you a question.
18:36This is your news.
18:38You said in the last few days,
18:40although the news of J&K is also
18:42published today that
18:44PTI is not an establishment
18:46You said in the last few days
18:48that there will be negotiations.
18:50Yes, there will be.
18:52And you also said that
18:54there will be negotiations in length.
18:56There will be serious negotiations.
18:58Serious means that
19:00the matter will go towards
19:02a logical conclusion.
19:04Now, whether they will achieve
19:06the result or not,
19:08these are two different things.
19:10There will be serious negotiations
19:12that the government is ready
19:14to negotiate.
19:16If you say that
19:18we will shift Bani Ghala
19:20to Imran Khan
19:22then we will negotiate.
19:24Do you think there will be
19:26such negotiations?
19:28There will be no negotiations.
19:30I am telling you,
19:32he is the Chancellor of Odiala.
19:34He is not a Mundi.
19:36Why did J&K make him leave Odiala?
19:38He did a good thing.
19:40At that time there was agitation.
19:42People's workers
19:44could be saved.
19:46They were bringing TTP.
19:48So, they did a good thing.
19:50At that time,
19:52three Rangers were martyred.
19:54We saw them.
19:56I saw the Army Chief
19:58and the Prime Minister.
20:00We saw this.
20:02The police officer was also martyred.
20:04They wanted to stop this.
20:06So, they left Odiala.
20:08Now, whether they will shift
20:10Bani Ghala to Imran Khan
20:12or not,
20:14I don't know.
20:16If they are thinking,
20:18then there will be no negotiations.
20:20They will have to sit
20:22for unknown negotiations.
20:24The committee will be notified
20:26from the government.
20:28It will be soon.
20:30You have seen and heard.
20:32The question is here.
20:34Forgive me.
20:36The committee will be punished.
20:38If you don't want to
20:40listen to their demands,
20:42then do what you are doing.
20:44You have had the same agenda
20:46for the last 3-4 years.
20:48You have finished
20:50Imran Khan and PTI.
20:52You said that 50 people
20:54will not come.
20:56You have filed an FIR
20:58on 18000 people in Islamabad.
21:00Only on 18000 people
21:02in Islamabad at this time.
21:04Remember to forgive
21:06and do what you are doing.
21:08You cannot finish
21:10Imran Khan and PTI.
21:12You have ruined the country.
21:14You want to do more.
21:16No one wants to negotiate with you.
21:18You have received messages
21:20from outside.
21:22Your wish has been fulfilled.
21:24You have heard the opinion
21:26of the three panelists.
21:28Mr. Naqvi thinks that
21:30both the government
21:32and Pakistan should
21:34negotiate with each other.
21:36The country has been ruined.
21:38Check the numbers of
21:402022 and today.
21:42The country has been ruined.
21:44The country is going towards
21:46improvement.
21:48Your stock market
21:50is skyrocketing.
21:52It has crossed
21:5413000.
21:56Your interest rate has
21:58increased by 13%.
22:00It has reduced by 9%.
22:02The economic
22:04indicators that Mr. Hassan
22:06has given,
22:08when the program ends,
22:10all our people
22:12will come and ask
22:14what the economic
22:16indicators are.
22:18People understand.
22:20You have heard the opinion
22:22of our three panelists.
22:24Now let's go to the break.
22:26We will talk later.
22:28There is a political place
22:30in Pakistan.
22:32All the political leaders
22:34who are part of that place
22:36are subjected to terrorism.
22:38They have done
22:40such a bad thing.
22:42They have violated
22:44the law.
22:46They will have to face
22:48these cases in the coming days.
22:50We will talk in detail about
22:52Stabilus.
22:54Ladies and gentlemen,
22:56we have the queen of
22:58Punjab.
23:00The motorway
23:02was built by
23:04Tahiyyat Qaid.
23:06All the Sharif families
23:08live there.
23:10It is the
23:12favourite spot for
23:14the Sharif families.
23:16The Punjab government
23:18wants to carry out
23:20a development plan.
23:22According to the development
23:24plan, there are some
23:26violations.
23:28The development plan
23:30is based on
23:32the fact that
23:34some houses are
23:36being damaged.
23:38Some people are
23:40trying to fix it.
23:42All the political parties
23:44have a political
23:46leadership.
23:48Shahid Khaqan
23:50Abbasi is the
23:52leader.
23:54Murtaza Satti
23:56is the former M.P.A.
23:58Mehreen Anwar Raja
24:00is the former M.P.A.
24:02Special Secretary
24:04Asim Rizwari
24:06is the former M.P.A.
24:08Major Tasib Satti
24:10Sardar Saleem
24:12is the former M.P.A.
24:14These people
24:16violated the law.
24:18When the news of
24:20violation spread,
24:22the police
24:24arrested 144 people.
24:26What happened next?
24:28How many people
24:30were arrested?
24:32First of all,
24:34what was the reason
24:36behind the
24:38arrest?
24:40How many people
24:42were arrested?
24:44What were the
24:46charges?
24:48The basic
24:50issue started
24:52with the encroachment.
24:54The administration
24:56started its drive
24:58to demolish the buildings
25:00on both sides of the
25:02expressway.
25:04When the Punjab
25:06government came,
25:08the M.P.A.
25:10had a special
25:12development plan
25:14in Murree.
25:16Some hotels
25:18would be demolished
25:20and land acquired.
25:22When the situation developed,
25:24the local traders
25:26started protesting.
25:28They said they would
25:30not allow the buildings
25:32to be demolished.
25:34After that,
25:36they wanted to
25:38inaugurate a Grand Jirga
25:40in Murree.
25:42All political parties
25:44were invited.
25:46On December 13,
25:48the administration
25:50inaugurated the Grand Jirga.
25:52On December 14,
25:54thousands of people
25:56from Murree,
25:58Shahid Khan Abbasi,
26:00PTI and People's Party
26:02came to the Jirga.
26:04Between December 15 and
26:06December 17,
26:08four F.I.R.s were
26:10submitted.
26:12The government
26:14submitted the F.I.R.
26:16to two ex-M.N.A.s
26:18of People's Party,
26:20Mehreen Anwar Raja and
26:22Murtazat Satti.
26:24Approximately 36 people
26:26were nominated.
26:2855 to 40 people
26:30were not nominated.
26:32PTI's Maj. Satti,
26:34Sardar Saleem
26:36and others were included.
26:38Why did they
26:40add the word
26:42terrorism?
26:44Did they fight against the government?
26:46What did they do?
26:48Sir,
26:50basically,
26:52we covered the entire Jalsa.
26:54The main road
26:56had chairs
26:58and it was
27:00enforced.
27:02On that basis,
27:04some of the speakers
27:06were a little bit
27:08lazy.
27:10No leaves were broken
27:12on that day.
27:14It was a peaceful
27:16Jalsa.
27:18The government
27:20did not interfere.
27:22Is there any
27:24F.I.R. on
27:26Hakan Abbasi?
27:28There are four
27:30F.I.R.s.
27:32There is no
27:34F.I.R. on Hakan Abbasi.
27:36The government
27:38has kept it a secret
27:40from the media.
27:42Maybe
27:44the F.I.R.
27:46will be nominated
27:48on Hakan Abbasi.
27:50He and Sadaqat Ali Abbasi
27:52were included
27:54but there was no F.I.R.
27:56Thank you,
27:58Ayaz.
28:00If there is no F.I.R.,
28:02how do they know
28:04there is no F.I.R.
28:06There is confusion.
28:08If our reporter
28:10does not have a copy
28:12of the F.I.R.,
28:14you read the F.I.R.
28:16application.
28:18Do you give the news
28:20through your sources?
28:22Yes.
28:24Okay.
28:26Mr. Naveen,
28:28Shahid Hakan Abbasi
28:30did talk about this.
28:32There is a
28:34demonstration.
28:36In Karachi,
28:38when a place is demolished,
28:40there is legal work
28:42and illegal work.
28:44But people do it.
28:46How will the situation
28:48get better?
28:50First of all,
28:52was Shahid Hakan Abbasi
28:54sitting in this place?
28:56He was leading.
28:58The people of Murree
29:00rejected him.
29:02They live in Lahore.
29:04Let's talk about Murree.
29:06Let's talk about Murree.
29:08They haven't fought the election yet.
29:10They are talking about the past.
29:12Let's move on.
29:14I am saying that they have lost
29:16once.
29:18Mr. Naveen,
29:20their family has visited
29:22Murree several times.
29:24I am coming to that.
29:26Let's talk about
29:28Murree.
29:30The hotel owners
29:32of Murree are
29:34the biggest mafia of Pakistan.
29:36Go to Murree and see
29:38their mischief.
29:40Ask the tourists
29:42who visit Murree
29:44about the mischief
29:46of the hotel owners.
29:48Shahid Hakan Abbasi
29:50is a contributor of their family.
29:52I will tell him
29:54to improve his Murree first.
29:56Then you talk about Pakistan
29:58and their mischief.
30:02Don't you know
30:04about the situation
30:06of the hotel owners of Murree?
30:08They are the biggest mafia of Pakistan.
30:10What do they do to the tourists?
30:12Answer this.
30:14Your concern
30:16has been revealed.
30:18They have a copy of the FIR.
30:20I want to tell you something.
30:22I used to work
30:24in a private television channel.
30:26You have also worked there.
30:28Our team
30:30visited Murree.
30:32The restaurant owners.
30:34I met Shahid
30:36in the assembly.
30:38I told him that
30:40neither the locals nor the journalists
30:42misbehave with us.
30:44He said that the hotel owners
30:46misbehave with us.
30:48I said yes.
30:50He said that it happens.
30:52He took their side.
30:54No one listened
30:56to the cameraman
30:58of our media.
31:00They are the mafia.
31:02I am telling you.
31:04A big news channel
31:06and its administration
31:08couldn't do anything
31:10about the merchants of Murree.
31:12What is happening with them
31:14is a conspiracy.
31:16Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam,
31:18I was listening to
31:20Tahyad Qaid.
31:22He gave a press conference
31:24in Murree.
31:26He said that
31:28I will always remember
31:30the service of one person.
31:32He always supported me.
31:34He was in jail with me.
31:36There are differences.
31:38But I respect
31:40the name of that person
31:42Shahid Khakan Abasi
31:44with all my heart.
31:46Shahid Khakan Abasi
31:48says that he has a relationship
31:50with Tahyad Qaid.
31:52Shahid Khakan Abasi
31:54is so useless.
31:56He sells
31:58the mafia
32:00in his area.
32:02He supervises
32:04lawlessness.
32:06Why did Tahyad Qaid
32:08supervise him for so long?
32:10What are you doing?
32:12Isn't it a big contradiction?
32:14It was a big conspiracy.
32:16He was talking
32:18about Shahid Khakan Abasi.
32:20Shahid Khakan Abasi
32:22was coming from there.
32:24Both of them were
32:26speaking at the same time.
32:28All the leaders were there.
32:30Mr. Abasi,
32:32Mr. Chaudhary,
32:34please continue.
32:36If they want,
32:38they should sit and talk.
32:40If they want to sell
32:42the mafia in Murree or Lahore,
32:44no one can allow it.
32:46But viewers,
32:48you must know that...
32:50Now,
32:52if you give a list of
32:54terrorist activities
32:56to the former Prime Minister,
32:58then you can guess
33:00which direction
33:02the country is going.
33:04Shahid has led that place.
33:06This is also an open discussion.
33:08Who did this?
33:10Viewers, you must remember
33:12that when Tahyad Qaid
33:14was ousted from power,
33:16it was a big conspiracy.
33:18His property in London
33:20was not being discussed.
33:22Without trial,
33:24he was punished.
33:26The person who was
33:28chosen by all the parties
33:30when he was removed
33:32from the Prime Minister's office,
33:34that person's name
33:36is Shahid Khakan Abasi.
33:38Whenever we talk
33:40with the establishment,
33:42everyone says that
33:44the best Prime Minister
33:46in recent times
33:48in administrative matters
33:50is Shahid Khakan Abasi.
33:52After the break,
33:54we will talk about
33:56Maulana's issue
33:58regarding Madrassa
34:00registration regulations.
34:02Are there any negotiations?
34:04There was supposed to be
34:06a joint sitting,
34:08but it didn't happen today.
34:10Let's see whether
34:12there will be a joint sitting
34:14or something else.
34:16Maulana is adamant
34:18that the bill will be passed
34:20and we will sign it.
34:22Otherwise, we will be forced
34:24to come out on the streets.
34:29The issue of Madrassa registration
34:31in Pakistan is quite old.
34:33It is two decades old.
34:35This issue was raised
34:37during the time of Janam Sharaf.
34:39Everyone was happy
34:41and the matter progressed.
34:43Then there was a disagreement
34:45in the middle.
34:47In 2019, a new law was passed
34:49by the previous government
34:51of Tehreek-e-Insaf.
34:53At that time, all the Ulema
34:55agreed to that law.
34:57The chairman of the Pakistan
34:59Ulema Council, Maulana Tahir Ashrafi,
35:01gave a press conference
35:03a few days ago and said
35:05that everything was fine
35:07Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman,
35:09Prof. Sajid Mir,
35:11Afzal Haidri,
35:13Maulana Abdul Malik
35:15and his board
35:17agreed that
35:19the Madrassa will be associated
35:21with the Ministry of Education.
35:23All the Akabirs
35:25have signed this agreement.
35:27Since 2019,
35:29till today,
35:31there has been
35:33no objection
35:35and as a result,
35:3718,600 Madrassas
35:39have been registered
35:41with the Ministry of Education.
35:43We celebrated this.
35:45We distributed sweets.
35:47Since the establishment of Pakistan
35:49and till now,
35:51the Madrassa's education
35:53was not understood.
35:55When it was associated
35:57with the Ministry of Education,
35:59we thanked Allah
36:01and the government officials
36:03that the Madrassa's education
36:05was officially accepted in Pakistan.
36:09The Madrassa's education
36:11was officially accepted
36:13and everyone was happy.
36:15Then the matter of the 26th
36:17Ayani Tarmeem comes up.
36:19During that time,
36:21the leader of Jamiat Ulama-e-Islam,
36:23Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
36:25said that we also have a few bills
36:27to pass.
36:29Then you will remember
36:31that under the Pakistan Societies Act,
36:33Madrassa's registration will be possible.
36:35The bill was discussed.
36:37The bill was passed in both the houses,
36:39from the National Assembly and the Senate.
36:41The bill went to the President of Pakistan.
36:43The President of Pakistan
36:45put an objection on it.
36:47We read a few days ago
36:49that there may be issues of FATF.
36:51Internationally,
36:53the scrutiny on us may increase.
36:55When more than one
36:57Madrassa's registration
36:59will be passed,
37:01the bill cannot be passed
37:03by the President of Pakistan.
37:05Then Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
37:07said that
37:09we have passed
37:11our bill.
37:13We have kept it.
37:15You notify the government.
37:17Today, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
37:19is saying this.
37:21The discussion is on
37:23the fact that the Act has been passed
37:25and its notification
37:27has been passed.
37:29What is this
37:31scrutiny?
37:33If today we discuss
37:35the amendment on it
37:37without accepting the Act
37:39and present it again
37:41in front of the Parliament
37:43or call a joint session,
37:45this will be a violation of the Act
37:47and you will establish
37:49such a wrong scrutiny
37:51that in the future
37:53for every Pakistani,
37:55there will be a problem
37:57and that document will have
37:59no importance.
38:01Now, all the organizations
38:03have given a clear stance
38:05that this is an Act
38:07and we accept it
38:09and demand the notification.
38:11We will not accept any amendment.
38:13Do not spoil the tradition.
38:15Do not spoil the law.
38:17Let the law be as it is.
38:19We will see later.
38:21Azam Nazeer Tariq
38:23has indicated that
38:25we will resolve the matter.
38:53We will see later.
38:55Azam Nazeer Tariq
38:57has indicated that
38:59we will resolve the matter.
39:01We will see later.
39:03Azam Nazeer Tariq
39:05has indicated that
39:07we will resolve the matter.
39:09We will see later.
39:11Azam Nazeer Tariq
39:13has indicated that
39:15we will resolve the matter.
39:17We will see later.
39:19Azam Nazeer Tariq
39:21has indicated that
39:23we will resolve the matter.
39:25We will see later.