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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:16In Punjab, the universities of the government, their vice-chancellors have not been able to be appointed yet.
00:23It's been a long time, there are about 25 universities.
00:26The positions of the vice-chancellors are vacant there.
00:29Obviously, if the vice-chancellor of a university is not present there,
00:33then the administrative affairs of that university are greatly affected.
00:38We will also take you to Peshawar.
00:40The local representatives who have already been elected,
00:44they were present on the streets today.
00:46They are not getting funds.
00:48And the government of Gandapur, instead of listening to them,
00:53charged a stick at them.
00:55Along with this, the resignation of Akhtar Mangal was done the other day.
01:00The government and the opposition are trying to convince them about it.
01:05Will they take back their resignation or not?
01:08We will talk about this too.
01:09But today, our first story, on which we are going to talk,
01:13Respected Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib is present in the National Assembly today.
01:19He is one of the most experienced politicians in Pakistan.
01:28He understands the political, economic and social issues of Pakistan very well.
01:34Today, he talked about the need of experienced politicians in the country,
01:39the need of dialogue in the country,
01:42the importance of the current parliament.
01:46And how to deal with the problems and challenges of the state.
01:50He talked about all these issues.
01:52First of all, he talked about a few parts of his speech.
01:58He expressed his dissatisfaction with this.
02:03It seems that there is a pattern.
02:06Our experienced politicians are being deliberately sidelined from the main politics.
02:13Only the political people can solve all the issues.
02:16Today, the importance of the political people is being eliminated.
02:19Only the political people can solve all the issues.
02:21Today, the importance of the political people is being eliminated.
02:23Where there is a well-known, well-understood, experienced and senior political leadership,
02:28they are being sidelined.
02:31It is obvious that new young people will take their place.
02:33They do not have experience.
02:35They are deprived of understanding.
02:37They are emotional.
02:39And because of this, the issues are so complicated.
02:42It becomes difficult for the state to solve this problem.
02:46Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain,
02:48Mr. Maulana's speech is about how important it is that our experienced politicians in Pakistan,
02:56who have been a part of politics for decades,
03:00are evaluating the current issues of Pakistan.
03:06And based on this evaluation, they are saying that this is the problem and it cannot be solved.
03:14What do you have to say?
03:17There is no comparison or comparison in terms of experience.
03:22But in politics, it is survival of the fittest.
03:26If people vote for you and your party brings you forward,
03:30whether you are 100 years old or 20 years old,
03:33you can lead or serve.
03:36If people deprive you of your vote and give it to a young person,
03:42then you cannot forcefully save anyone.
03:44But those who are being pointed at,
03:47they think that the atmosphere that is being created right now,
03:53whether it is Mian Washi, or Fazlur Manu, or someone else,
04:00they are all being pushed back.
04:04And relatively new and young people are being brought forward.
04:09Those who have no experience and have no idea of the problems,
04:13nor can they solve them.
04:15They have expressed their concerns.
04:18And everyone should sit together and talk about it.
04:21Do you think that their advice will be heard by the people?
04:29And will there be some action on it?
04:32No, it is possible that they have already discussed it.
04:36He is a minister.
04:39So, I don't think that they are going to say yes or no.
04:43There is a background behind it.
04:46Whether it is an Elders Council or some people,
04:49the country is going down.
04:51So, we have to handle it or not.
04:54You know that we have to save the federation in every situation
04:58and strengthen it.
05:00And for that, the trust of the people should be on their shoulders.
05:04And the people who are elected,
05:06people should accept the result and move forward.
05:10Viewers, recently you may remember,
05:12Maulana Sahab met the Prime Minister and the President of Pakistan.
05:15Today, during this speech, he said that
05:19the House that is present,
05:21which is accused of Form 47, 45,
05:25can't be denied the supremacy and importance of the Parliament.
05:34If the government fails,
05:37then we go there and control the situation.
05:40No matter how we are,
05:42whether we are of Form 47 or 45,
05:45we are sitting in this house.
05:47We may be de jure or de facto,
05:50but we have to deal with them.
05:54Mr. Naqvi, we have to deal with the politicians.
05:58The politicians are in a difficult time.
06:01And the politicians,
06:03according to Maulana Sahab,
06:05the experienced politicians are being sidelined.
06:07Yes.
06:09Look, my first question is that
06:12if the young people are so incompetent
06:15and can't run the government,
06:17they don't have any such ability,
06:19then I would like to ask Maulana Sahab a question
06:22that why did he make his young son a minister in the previous government?
06:27It is not possible that you write off the young people.
06:31Yes, if your objection is that
06:33senior politicians are being pushed back in politics,
06:36then that is a different issue.
06:38But if you make an umbrella and say
06:40that the young people can't run the country,
06:43then this is a completely wrong assumption.
06:46The way the young people are running the affairs of the world,
06:49the chief executives of the world's largest multinational companies are in their 40s,
06:54they are running states,
06:56they are running big financial institutions,
06:59then this is a completely wrong assumption
07:01that the young people don't have the ability.
07:03That's one thing.
07:04The second thing is that if Maulana Sahab points out
07:07that the senior politicians
07:09or those who have been in politics for a long time in Pakistan,
07:12are now being pushed back,
07:14no matter who he points to,
07:16then that is not the case.
07:17Today, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman is a member of the Assembly,
07:20which means that he is a central figure in Pakistan's politics.
07:23Today, Shabbaaz Sharif is a member of the Assembly
07:25and the Prime Minister,
07:26so he is a central figure.
07:27Today, Asif Ali Zardari is the President of Pakistan,
07:30so he is a central figure.
07:31Today, there are many other senior politicians like this.
07:34I don't know how old they are,
07:36but I have an idea that they must be 60 years old.
07:38So, these are all those people who are senior politicians
07:40and are sitting in the National Assembly.
07:42So, why did Maulana Sahab say this?
07:44If he says that big decisions are not being taken,
07:47then what are the big decisions that Maulana Sahab is saying
07:49that we are not being allowed to take?
07:51Tell me about that.
07:52The Assembly is not being allowed,
07:53or the Prime Minister is not being allowed,
07:55but if you want to talk about the dead,
07:57the thoughts, the illusions, the assumptions,
07:59if you want to talk about anything,
08:01then I don't think that at a time like this,
08:03when Pakistan is in a critical position,
08:05this can be a very good thing.
08:10Hassan Ayub, the issue is that
08:13I felt from Maulana Sahab's speech
08:16that Maulana is missing Nawaz Sharif Sahab.
08:22Nawaz Sharif Sahab is not being called Maulana.
08:24Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahab is missing Nawaz Sharif Sahab.
08:28And at the same time,
08:29he is also talking about Farm 47 and 45,
08:31De facto, de jure, whatever it is.
08:33I mean, they are sitting together.
08:35Politicians have to work.
08:37So, what did you think of his speech?
08:39It is not right to miss Maulana,
08:41because Nawaz Sharif Sahab
08:43is also a member of the National Assembly.
08:45And Maulana is also a member of the National Assembly.
08:47So, it is not right to miss Maulana.
08:50I have listened to Maulana's speech very carefully.
08:55He gave a very good speech.
08:58He is the leader of Hizb-e-Iqtalaf.
09:00He openly criticized the government,
09:02the establishment, and all the people
09:05in a clear and clear manner.
09:07But along with that,
09:08Maulana also said in his speech
09:10that the international conspiracies
09:12that are going on against Pakistan
09:14at the moment,
09:16and he said that the government
09:18needs to take continuous steps.
09:20And he said that wherever we are needed,
09:22we will also be found everywhere
09:24for Pakistan.
09:26So, Maulana made it clear
09:28from his speech that he is a patriot.
09:30Maulana made it clear
09:32that he has a clear understanding.
09:34He knows how to do politics.
09:36He knows how the government
09:38should reduce its problems
09:40and give relief to the people.
09:42Along with this,
09:44Maulana's son,
09:46Haider Naqvi,
09:48Maulana Fazl-e-Iman's son,
09:50Maulana Asad Mahmood,
09:52was a very good and capable minister.
09:54And according to me,
09:56the government should invite Maulana
09:58to join the government again.
10:00And if they make Maulana Asad
10:02a minister,
10:04they can make him a cabinet member.
10:06For that,
10:08he doesn't need to be a MLA or a senator.
10:10So, there are all these possibilities.
10:12And Maulana Asad can play a good role
10:14in the federal government.
10:16The overall speech
10:18that Maulana Asad was presenting
10:20was that the politicians
10:22have to move forward.
10:24Last night,
10:26the news that came out
10:28was on the record
10:30that Rana Salawla
10:32is leading the PMLN
10:34which is a grand dialogue.
10:36It is a dialogue on a national level.
10:38He has to move forward.
10:40He has to talk to people.
10:42And he is saying that
10:44he is talking to his leader.
10:46When he talked to his leader,
10:48he never said
10:50that you should sideline a political party
10:52or move forward without it.
10:54Nawaz Sharif also has this opinion
10:56that including PTI,
10:58everyone should sit together.
11:00PTI is also included in it.
11:02Whenever Mian Washi
11:04has spoken,
11:06whether it was on 21st October
11:08when he was addressing
11:10a big gathering
11:12or whenever he has spoken
11:14in a party meeting,
11:16he has never said
11:18that PTI should be removed.
11:20But I don't know
11:22what is the reason, Mr. Chaudhary.
11:24Your friend,
11:26Khwaja Asif,
11:28he goes on different occasions
11:30on television programs
11:32or on any platform
11:34in the National Assembly.
11:36His warm speech
11:38is very clear.
11:40He speaks in a strict tone.
11:42No, no, this cannot happen.
11:44The place where national politics
11:46and national understanding
11:48will be discussed,
11:50he has nothing to do
11:52with PTI.
11:54But where national dialogue
11:56will be discussed,
11:58with all due respect,
12:00I would like to say
12:02that there
12:04PTI matters
12:06are not of national origin.
12:08They start
12:10from the individual
12:12and end there.
12:16Mr. Chaudhary,
12:18what do you think of
12:20what Rana Sinawala
12:22and Khwaja Asif
12:24have said?
12:28There are two issues here.
12:30I have asked
12:32the person
12:34with whom Rana Sinawala
12:36has spoken,
12:38what is the situation?
12:40The entire party
12:42is in a frenzy.
12:44Kill him,
12:46throw him out.
12:48What does Rana Sinawala
12:50have to say?
12:52Rana Sinawala
12:54has said
12:56that our former Prime Minister
12:58Nawaz Sharif
13:00and current Prime Minister Shabaz Sharif
13:02we three
13:04only have
13:06confidentiality
13:08or trust with each other.
13:10No one else knows
13:12what we are saying or not.
13:14I am speaking on behalf
13:16of Nawaz Sharif
13:18and there is no doubt
13:20that others do not know.
13:22Secondly,
13:24Mr. Nawaz Sharif
13:26and Mr. Shabaz Sharif
13:28have said that we want to
13:30talk to them.
13:32What do you think?
13:34Mr. Nagri,
13:36I have also spoken to some people in Islamabad.
13:38Mr. Zahid
13:40and Mr. Rana Sinawala
13:42have had more than one session.
13:44The single point agenda is
13:46that you have to
13:48talk about national dialogue
13:50on the national level,
13:52you have to bring all the
13:54political forces together.
13:56When we talk about political forces,
13:58it is not possible that
14:00we say that People's Party is not a political force.
14:02We can't say that PM Alliance is not a political force.
14:04We can't say that PTI
14:06is over.
14:08It has nothing to do with it.
14:10You will have to move forward
14:12together.
14:14Mr. Nagri
14:16The thing is that
14:18there should not be any other opinion
14:20that all the political parties
14:22of Pakistan
14:24should have dialogue
14:26between them.
14:28If they are a part of the assembly,
14:30then there should be meetings
14:32and consultations
14:34between them on legislation
14:36and running the government and state.
14:38There is no other opinion in this,
14:40no matter which party it is.
14:42In the previous government,
14:44there was a minister,
14:46Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
14:48I don't want to take his name,
14:50but you understand what I am saying.
14:52The thing is that there is no objection
14:54to anyone who has a political status.
14:56But this is also a fact.
14:58This is also logical.
15:00This is also logical.
15:02This is also written on the wall.
15:04This is also written in books.
15:06This is also in the courts
15:08that you attacked 9th May.
15:10You attacked state institutions.
15:12Whoever attacked you,
15:14should be punished for it.
15:16Because if you don't punish
15:18those who attack state institutions,
15:20then Pakistan is already vulnerable.
15:22In Pakistan,
15:24this will become a tradition.
15:26And if this becomes a tradition,
15:28then we will get involved in a proxy war
15:30that is very difficult for us to get out of.
15:32So I will say the same thing
15:34that you said about the political parties.
15:36I will tell you in one sentence
15:38that the law should never be
15:40subject to acceptance.
15:42The law should take its place.
15:44And if it does,
15:46then it should work
15:48within the parameters of politics and democracy.
15:50There is no objection
15:52to the act of the law.
15:54There is no allegation
15:56against anyone.
16:00The problem is that
16:02this dialogue
16:04that you are talking about,
16:06do you think anything will come out of it?
16:08Because you must have met
16:10and you have access to it.
16:12In PMLN,
16:14as Mr. Chaudhary said,
16:16there is a group
16:18that thinks that
16:20the leaders are in favor
16:22of this issue.
16:24They want things to move forward.
16:26They are experienced politicians.
16:28But there are some people
16:30who are not taken in the loop
16:32or who think that if this matter
16:34moves forward, then their politics
16:36will be affected.
16:38They are playing the role of spoilers.
16:40Mr. Nawaz Sharif
16:42and Mr. Shehbaz
16:44and Mr. Rana Sanawla
16:46are very different.
16:48Mr. Khawaja
16:50must be saying
16:52this because
16:54how can you ignore
16:56the facts of the past?
17:00For example, India
17:02attacked Pakistan.
17:04At that time,
17:06there was a discussion
17:08and the Parliament
17:10had to give an agreement.
17:12At that time,
17:14the President said
17:16that he did not want to sit with the opposition.
17:18He was the Prime Minister.
17:20He said that he would not sit with them.
17:22He did not want to negotiate with them.
17:24So this tradition
17:26is still there.
17:28You can still talk to Mr. Umar Ajoob.
17:30You can talk to Mr. Ajab Zahid.
17:32You can talk to Mr. Ajab Zahid.
17:34You yourself are saying that
17:36Mr. Rana Sanawla
17:38is engaging in this matter.
17:40I think
17:42this level should rise.
17:44If Mr. Ajab Zahid wants to sit,
17:46he can sit with Mr. Shehbaz.
17:48He can sit with Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
17:50At this stage,
17:52I don't think
17:54this is a productive discussion.
17:56I don't think
17:58this is a concrete
18:00dialogue.
18:02The political history of Pakistan
18:04is very recent.
18:06You must remember
18:08the NRO case.
18:10Before that,
18:12the Charter of Democracy was signed in London.
18:14Later,
18:16ARD was formed in 2008.
18:18People's Party and
18:20Muslim League Noon
18:22became a part of the United Nations.
18:24These things continue in politics.
18:26They should continue.
18:28After the break,
18:30we will talk about the representatives
18:32of the BJP.
18:34Will Mr. Mangal resign?
18:36Hassan has an inside story.
18:40Dear viewers,
18:42Sardar Akhtar Mangal
18:44is a very old politician from Balochistan.
18:46He has a lot of influence
18:48in Balochistan and in national politics.
18:50Since he resigned,
18:52we have been seeing
18:54a B-line
18:56of meetings.
18:58The government and opposition
19:00are meeting.
19:02Mr. Rana Sanawala,
19:04who leads the party,
19:06talks to the people
19:08and listens to them.
19:10We met him.
19:12What did he say?
19:14Yesterday,
19:16he talked about resignation.
19:18We have
19:20requested him.
19:22We have entered a review petition.
19:24He has
19:26registered our review petition.
19:28There will be
19:30arguments on it.
19:32We are hopeful
19:34that our petition
19:36will be accepted.
19:38We respect him.
19:40We want that
19:42in the democratic struggle,
19:44the rights of Balochistan
19:46and the deprivation
19:48of Balochistan
19:50should be suppressed.
19:52He has a very
19:54powerful voice.
19:56He should be present
19:58in the parliament.
20:00Why are you
20:02upset?
20:04Why don't you want him
20:06to resign?
20:08We have heard
20:10that he came to convince me.
20:12I have convinced him.
20:14Do you have a party
20:16called BNP Mengal?
20:18Do you have a party
20:20with two senators
20:22and one MP?
20:24All of them should go.
20:26He is not resigning.
20:28He wants to
20:30show his importance.
20:32Look,
20:34four days have passed.
20:36Nawab Attaullah Mengal
20:38was a big name in Balochistan.
20:40Many people respected him.
20:42But he is
20:44not in a position
20:46where people support him.
20:48This is a wake-up call for him.
20:50He wants to be relevant.
20:52But he is not in a position
20:54where people support him.
20:56But he is not in a position
20:58where people support him.
21:00But he is not in a position
21:02where people support him.
21:04But he is not in a position
21:06where people support him.
21:08But he is not in a position
21:10where people support him.
21:12But he is not in a position
21:14where people support him.
21:16But he is not in a position
21:18where people support him.
21:20Thank you very much.
21:22In the morning,
21:24Peshawar's red zone was a battlefield.
21:26Today at 10.30 am,
21:28Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's local MPs
21:30including neighborhood and village council
21:32more than 700 MPs
21:34protested in Jinnah Park
21:36in front of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly.
21:38in front of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly.
21:40The protest continued for 4 to 5 hours.
21:42After that, Meher Peshawar
21:44who was leading the protest
21:46and is a member of Jamia Muslim
21:48along with the local MPs
21:50from Malakand and Hazara
21:52along with the local MPs
21:54from Malakand and Hazara
21:56protested for 2.5 years
21:58protested for 2.5 years
22:00protesting for 2.5 years
22:02protesting for 2.5 years
22:04protesting for 2.5 years
22:06protesting for 2.5 years
22:08protesting for 2.5 years
22:10protesting for 2.5 years
22:12protesting for 2.5 years
22:14protesting for 2.5 years
22:16protested for 2.5 years
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22:20protested for 2.5 years
22:22protested for 2.5 years
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22:26protested for 2.5 years
22:28protested for 2.5 years
22:30protested for 2.5 years
22:32protested for 2.5 years
22:34protested for 2.5 years
22:36protested for 2.5 years
22:38protested for 2.5 years
22:40protested for 2.5 years
22:42protested for 2.5 years
22:44next question
22:46next question
22:50next question
22:54next question
23:04main incitement
23:06end some
23:08main incitement
23:10end some
23:12The protests in Pakistan continue to take place, whether it's against the government or the central government.
23:19The government should take measures to solve these problems.
23:23But what we were talking about before was Mr. Mangal.
23:26You mentioned in the segment that Nawaz Sharif wants to talk to everyone.
23:32A very good gesture has been shown by the government to go to Mr. Mangal.
23:36If he hadn't gone, it wouldn't have made a difference.
23:39He went because he is a very prominent figure in Baluchistan.
23:43He talked to him and he was ready to take his resignation.
23:46And this is the attitude that Pakistan needs.
23:49Absolutely right.
23:51Mr. Chaudhary, do you think Mr. Mangal will take his resignation?
23:56Everyone has requested him.
24:01His importance has been accepted.
24:05Yes, absolutely. I think he should be reviewed.
24:09Absolutely right.
24:11After the break, we will talk about the serious issue of education in Punjab.
24:19The appointment of the government's universities' vice-chancellors has to be made.
24:23What is the obstacle? We will talk about it. Stay with us.
24:30Welcome back.
24:31In Pakistan, the issue of education is in front of you.
24:35Approximately 250 million children are out of school.
24:38And there is a great need in Pakistan right now.
24:42And I think all the governments should do this.
24:46Education should be an emergency.
24:48And more and more focus should be on it.
24:5060% of the population of Pakistan is young.
24:54And it is very important for the management of our universities, schools and colleges
25:00that the governments put them in priority.
25:04And deal with their issues in a positive manner.
25:07Let's take you to Lahore, Punjab.
25:10There are 25 government universities there.
25:15The appointment of their vice-chancellors is an issue.
25:18Why is it not happening?
25:20And of course, if a university's vice-chancellor is not present,
25:23then there are policy guidelines and administrative issues.
25:26It has a lot of impact on it.
25:27Our representative from Lahore, Hassan Hafeez, is with us.
25:30Let's know from him.
25:31Since when is this issue being delayed?
25:34Why is it such a problem?
25:36What is the reason?
25:38And since when are these universities running without a vice-chancellor?
25:42Hassan.
25:44Thank you very much, Mr. Khawar.
25:46This has become a big challenge for the government of Punjab.
25:49If we talk about the current situation,
25:52there will be appointments of vice-chancellors in 25 universities.
25:56This is a big problem and a big challenge for the government of Punjab.
25:5911 universities have been interviewed by the vice-chancellors,
26:03which have been taken up by the CM of Punjab, Dr. Maryam Nawaz.
26:08After 11 universities, the second phase is
26:12the interviews of 7 women's universities.
26:17The interviews are also going on.
26:19It has been 3 days since 11 to 12 universities
26:23have been interviewed by the CM of Punjab, Dr. Maryam Nawaz.
26:26But no appointment has been made on the third day.
26:29The third phase will start later,
26:33in which general universities will be included.
26:35And the rest of the 25 universities will be like this.
26:38This is the first group in which...
26:41Since when is this issue going on?
26:43I mean, even during the government of the PDM,
26:45or before that, the government of PTI,
26:48then later, Mr. Chaudhry Purvez,
26:50many positions have been vacant for a long time.
26:53We are reading the news in the newspapers.
26:55Mr. Khawar, this was the first government.
26:58If we talk about history,
27:01it happens in the past as well,
27:03that the day the minister or lady takes the interview,
27:06the notification is given after 3 hours.
27:09A problem has arisen here.
27:11Favoritism has come here.
27:13And a very disturbing thing happened
27:15that when the current Minister of Education
27:17announced in front of all the journalists
27:20that I have been offered crores of rupees
27:22for the appointment of the Vice-Chancellor.
27:25One candidate has offered him 2 crores,
27:28the other candidate has offered him 2 to 2.5 crores.
27:31Without taking the name,
27:33he made this announcement,
27:35of which we published the story,
27:37and it was also published on ARY.
27:39And if you come in such a situation,
27:41and the current situation is such,
27:43then how...
27:45It happened that the next day,
27:47there was a wave of suspicion
27:49among all the professors of Punjab.
27:51And a question mark has been placed
27:53that if a minister is offered
27:55crores of rupees for the post of Vice-Chancellor,
27:57who is the Minister of Education,
27:59then what will happen to the
28:0125 universities that are yet to come?
28:03Even now, the situation is such
28:05that every professor,
28:07no one has been confirmed
28:09that which professor's turn will come.
28:11The universities' search committees
28:13have also started.
28:15My name is Hassan Ayub.
28:17I want to ask you something.
28:19In this appointment of the Vice-Chancellor,
28:21does the Governor have any role?
28:23Is the appointing authority
28:25the Governor of Punjab?
28:27Exactly.
28:29This procedure is a long one,
28:31in which the Governor of Punjab
28:33is the Chancellor of the University
28:35and he has a role.
28:37It is the role of the post office.
28:39I wanted to clarify.
28:41Three days have passed.
28:43Why hasn't the notification come yet?
28:45Otherwise, it happens in an hour.
28:47Two days ago, the Governor of Punjab
28:49passed away.
28:51He is in his village.
28:53Chaudhary Nisar Ali Khan's
28:55sister-in-law passed away.
28:57She was also the mother-in-law
28:59of Sareem Haider.
29:01This is the main reason.
29:03I think five or six names have been confirmed
29:05who were supposed to be appointed.
29:07Because he is not available,
29:09I have solved your problem.
29:11But what you are saying
29:13is 100% correct.
29:15The Vice-Chancellor has an important role.
29:17It should not take even an hour.
29:19Not even an hour.
29:21Your future students
29:23have to handle the affairs
29:25of the University.
29:27I agree with you.
29:29Yes, Hassan.
29:31Sir, I would like to say that
29:33the committee that interviewed
29:35the CM of Punjab,
29:37the Minister of Education,
29:41and the Health Secretary
29:43have sent the names
29:45to the Higher Education.
29:47Now, the Higher Education says
29:49that until the directions
29:51of the Prime Minister of Punjab
29:53are not received,
29:55we will not be notified.
29:57As Mr. Hassan said,
29:59this is one reason.
30:01But the names to be finalized
30:03have already been finalized.
30:05But according to you,
30:07the Governor has not received
30:09the final summaries yet.
30:11Mr. Nagveer,
30:13you can ask your questions.
30:15I would like to ask you
30:17a small question.
30:19Are the universities
30:21which have Vice-Chancellors
30:23still closed?
30:25Or are the acting Vice-Chancellors
30:27still working?
30:29And when the new Vice-Chancellor
30:31comes, he will take charge.
30:33Are the universities
30:35which have Vice-Chancellors
30:37still closed?
30:39Or are the acting Vice-Chancellors
30:41still working?
30:43The Vice-Chancellors
30:45will come in 2-4 days.
30:47What difference does it make
30:49if the Vice-Chancellors
30:51come in 2-4 days?
30:55Mr. Nagveer,
30:57you must have studied
30:59in a university.
31:01You must have studied in a university.
31:03You must have studied in a university.
31:05The role of the Vice-Chancellor
31:07is not in the classes.
31:09I am very lucky
31:11that I studied in the Government College
31:13in Lahore and now
31:15I have studied in the Government College
31:17in Punjab University.
31:19The role of the Vice-Chancellor
31:21is not in the classes.
31:23The role of the Vice-Chancellor
31:25is not in the classes.
31:27Your argument is here.
31:29It is also the same as the Vice-Chancellor.
31:31You have the right but
31:33acting is not allowed.
31:35Mr. Nagveer,
31:37don't make me the Vice-Chancellor.
31:41Mr. Chauje,
31:43it is very unusual
31:45that you are
31:47looking at this.
31:49In the US
31:51or in Europe,
31:53universities are very independent.
31:55Businesses run on their own.
31:57intervention will be a shed you have a big is can the reforms because of the
32:01choice up now you can either way I say what you can tell you how come to me be
32:07a vice-chancellor you can give her a home over there in the university