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Kiya Bilawal Bhutto Government Girane ka Program Bana Rahe Hain??? Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain Reveals
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program.
00:13In today's program, we will talk about the invitation sent by Indian Prime Minister Modi to the government of Pakistan.
00:22He is coming to the Shingai Cooperation Conference on 15th or 16th in Pakistan.
00:29We will talk about this topic.
00:31Along with this, our respected Qaid is planning to go to London.
00:36It is being told that he is going.
00:38We get the news from somewhere that he is not going yet.
00:40When will he go?
00:42We will also talk about this.
00:44We will also talk about the issues of People's Party Noon League in Punjab regarding power sharing.
00:51Another committee has been formed.
00:53We will talk about that.
00:55But the first topic of this program is about electricity bills.
01:01We will talk about the government of Punjab and Sindh.
01:09You may remember that the Chief Minister of Punjab, Mr. Nawaz Sharif, announced that
01:17Rs. 14 per unit will be subsidized for consumers in Punjab from 200 to 500 units.
01:26This decision was greatly appreciated.
01:28Mr. Nawaz Sharif announced that not only Qaid, but his uncle, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
01:36who is now the Prime Minister of Pakistan, also praised Mr. Sharif.
01:44The government of Punjab gave a huge relief of Rs. 2 per month to the people of Punjab from 200 to 500 units.
01:51For this, they subsidized Rs. 45 billion from their development funds.
01:58The government of Punjab gave a huge relief of Rs. 2 per month to the people of Punjab from 200 to 500 units.
02:04This is their right.
02:06Wafaaq did not contribute in this.
02:09I think that other provinces should do the same.
02:12They can give this relief to the people of their provinces.
02:16We should not do politics on this.
02:18The Prime Minister suggested that we should not do politics on this.
02:23He advised other provinces to follow the footsteps of the Prime Minister and the Punjab government.
02:31He advised other provinces to follow the footsteps of the Prime Minister and the Punjab government.
02:36The government of Punjab, the government of the Prime Minister, and the government of Sindh felt bad.
02:42Who are you to do this?
02:44What kind of decisions are you making?
02:46The debate began.
02:48There was a similar event in Karachi.
02:50Solar panels were being distributed to give relief in electricity.
02:56If solar panels are installed, people will get long-term relief.
02:59On this occasion, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari also participated.
03:03He gave his comment on the relief of two months.
03:13The government of Wafaaq or Muslim League Noor announced to reduce electricity costs.
03:20We welcome the idea of reducing electricity costs.
03:27We are also working on this.
03:29I told the Prime Minister that the plan that has been announced is out of my understanding.
03:37I told the Chief Minister of Sindh to meet the representatives of Wafaaq.
03:42If you can provide cheap electricity to Sindh in the morning, you can do this.
03:50If there is an increase in the number of missiles,
03:53the people of Pakistan will suffer for 12 months.
03:58Then we will continue to implement our plans.
04:04But we want sustainable solutions.
04:08We want sustainable solutions.
04:10It is not a matter of two months.
04:12Electricity is used every day for 12 months.
04:15How is it possible that you give two months of relief?
04:18What will you do for the remaining 10 months?
04:21When you cut your budget, the problems will increase.
04:26You know the conditions of the IMF.
04:29Mr. Arana Sinawala has answered this.
04:31He said that they are putting a roller in it for no reason.
04:33If the Punjab government is doing this on its own, then there is no need for a ban on it.
04:38The Punjab government has given relief in electricity bills.
04:41The Sindh government or the People's Party are raising objections.
04:48According to our understanding, the four months, April, May, June and July, are doubled.
04:58In the remaining eight months, one-third is left.
05:01Or at least one-half is left.
05:03If there is no solution to the electricity bills by next year,
05:09then instead of two months, four months of relief will be given.
05:15Then people's problem will be solved.
05:17It will be solved for the entire year.
05:19Mr. Bilawal is not right that two months of relief and 12 months of pain.
05:23No, this is the pain of four months.
05:26There is no pain in eight months.
05:29Mr. Naqvi, Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari is criticizing this.
05:34And you are getting an answer from the Punjab government.
05:37If you put this issue in front of you,
05:39then what do you think, who is standing on the right side of this matter?
05:44Look, let's first look at the strong aspect of this.
05:48The 14,000 rupees that Mariam Nawaz Sahiba has given in the relief bills,
05:5314 rupees per unit?
05:55Yes.
05:56Has she given it to the specific regions of Punjab?
06:00Or has she given it across the board to the entire Punjab?
06:03Whether there is a voter from any Jamaat in it.
06:05Whether there are people working for any Jamaat in it.
06:09So, if the votes of the People's Party are also benefiting,
06:12the votes of PTI are also benefiting,
06:14Muslim League Noon and other people are also benefiting.
06:16So, there is no joke in this.
06:18This is a strong aspect.
06:20Let's look at another aspect of this.
06:22Look, the big problems of Pakistan right now,
06:25the Muslim League Noon and People's Party,
06:27these are two very big Jamaats of Pakistan,
06:29which have been in power back to back for 30-40 years.
06:33They have a big debt on the people of Pakistan.
06:36If the people of Pakistan have been electing them,
06:39then the place where Pakistan is standing today,
06:41it is in a very critical situation.
06:43I am talking from the point of view of a common man.
06:46Pakistan is standing in a very critical position.
06:48In your country, inflation is the biggest torment.
06:51In addition to that, security has become a very big torment.
06:53In addition to that, the conflicts that have increased in your own ranks,
06:58have become a very big torment.
07:00You are not addressing those issues.
07:02You are addressing, you want this, they want this,
07:05you don't want to give them this, you don't want to take this.
07:07This is of no benefit to the people of Pakistan.
07:10If you give your MPO a debt of 10-20-25 crores,
07:13it will be of no benefit to the people of Pakistan.
07:15The point is that you have to do something
07:17that will benefit the people of Pakistan directly.
07:19Yes, Mr. Bilawar Bipu Zardari,
07:21now you can demand from the central government,
07:23the NFC, which is a lot of money from the People's Party,
07:25which the central government has already stopped.
07:27Maybe 160 or 62 billion rupees.
07:29The central government should release that money immediately,
07:31or release some of it.
07:33The People's Party should also do something for the benefit of the people.
07:37Any such action should come forward,
07:39which will make the people happier.
07:41The People's Party is doing this work.
07:43It is building houses for lakhs of people.
07:45The people who were drowned in the floods,
07:47it is a very big job.
07:49The People's Party takes out that money from its development fund,
07:51and is building houses there,
07:53which is very beneficial to the people.
07:55And solar, there is no doubt about it,
07:57that solar is a revolutionary program,
07:59and the Ministry of Environment is working day and night on it.
08:01Yesterday, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
08:03made another serious statement.
08:05I don't know if he has accused the federal government,
08:07or if he is looking at something,
08:09behind the wall, behind the curtain,
08:11something big is going to happen.
08:13He gave a reference,
08:15that in the past,
08:17you know,
08:19he had started a long march,
08:21from Sindh to Karachi,
08:23to Islamabad.
08:25So, the campaign was hanged,
08:27you know, the famous phrase,
08:29and then, what did he say,
08:31whose government had gone,
08:33and at that time,
08:35the government had reduced the electricity bill,
08:37because of my pressure,
08:39and I don't know what had happened, listen.
08:41Before this, I had seen such an announcement once.
08:43When we had left,
08:45long march,
08:47against Mr. Khan's government,
08:49and they started to hang him,
08:51and hang him.
08:53So, in those times, Mr. Khan announced,
08:55that in the price of petrol,
08:57we will reduce the price of petrol.
08:59But that announcement was made a week or two ago,
09:01by Mr. Khan.
09:03So, even today, there is no long march,
09:05nor is there any confidence.
09:07So, the decision is out of our understanding.
09:09Mr. Chaudhary,
09:11the reference you gave,
09:13or the incident of the past,
09:15he is saying that,
09:17at that time, it was my pressure,
09:19we put pressure, but that decision,
09:21because it was so economically wrong,
09:23that the government gave relief,
09:25and the government objected,
09:27because you did not put forward the economic condition of Pakistan,
09:29it was a political decision,
09:31so you were released.
09:33Now, by giving this reference,
09:35what is he saying?
09:37He is saying that,
09:39it is beyond my understanding,
09:41how did Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
09:43Mr. Marjum Sahiba,
09:45take this decision?
09:47Well, Mr. Khawar Government,
09:49you are asking for Rs. 14,
09:51or Rs. 4,
09:53any relief to the common man
09:55is a welcome step.
09:57The rest should also follow it.
09:59But we say that,
10:01this lollipop,
10:03or this chunga,
10:05or these small gestures,
10:07these are not enough.
10:09Poverty will not be reduced by these gestures.
10:11You have to come towards
10:13a big,
10:15for these people,
10:17where everyone gets a chance
10:19to earn and eat,
10:21which cannot be done
10:23without generating economic activity.
10:25These small facilities,
10:27are not the solution
10:29to their problems.
10:31And because of this,
10:33no impact has been seen
10:35on the large scale people.
10:37Because they are already
10:39many times more
10:41burdened by the economic burden.
10:43So, you are trying to
10:45ruin them.
10:47You are putting salt on their wounds.
10:49Rs. 80, Rs. 90
10:51per unit,
10:53what will happen if you reduce it by Rs. 14?
10:55I don't understand.
10:57But still, anything going to the people,
10:59for the people,
11:01is welcome.
11:03But on this,
11:05what is Mr. Bulawal Bhutto Zardari
11:07hinting at?
11:09Is he making a program to bring down the government?
11:11Which we hear,
11:13or not?
11:15Now, his leadership in Punjab,
11:17I have met him
11:19many times.
11:21He is not so much
11:23of a PTI guy,
11:25as the people.
11:27We have kept this story,
11:29we will talk about it later.
11:31Viewers, Mr. Rana Sanawal
11:33said in this interview
11:35last night,
11:37that when the PDM government
11:39had already spent a lot on electricity,
11:41they were unhappy.
11:43They feel a lot of pain
11:45in their hearts.
11:47They want to stand with the people.
11:49Our leadership,
11:51has a lot of
11:53interference
11:55from Mr. Nia Nawazshi.
11:57He is very concerned
11:59that there should be a reduction
12:01in electricity bills.
12:03He was very against
12:05increasing the price of petroleum.
12:07When our PDM government
12:09was in power,
12:11they were very angry
12:13about increasing the price
12:15of petroleum.
12:17They are very concerned
12:19about the price of bread.
12:21Hassan,
12:23you are in Islamabad,
12:25and when we see you,
12:27we don't know
12:29if you are left or right.
12:31You are in many places.
12:33The serious concern
12:35is that
12:37instead of Rs. 45 billion,
12:39you should give Rs. 90 billion,
12:41Rs. 100 billion,
12:43Rs. 200 billion.
12:45Instead of Rs. 14 per unit,
12:47you should give Rs. 28,
12:49Rs. 30, Rs. 40.
12:51The problem is that
12:53your major pie
12:55and the surplus
12:57that you had promised
12:59the federal government
13:01with the IMF
13:03is a lot of concern.
13:05The federal government
13:07is worried.
13:09Mr. Shoaib Nizami,
13:11our correspondent,
13:13gave us the news.
13:15How sustainable is this?
13:17There is no doubt
13:19that electricity is very expensive
13:21for the people.
13:23It should be cheap.
13:25No one will go against it,
13:27as Mr. Chaudhary said.
13:29But when you move away
13:31from the plan,
13:33the reference that Bilawal gave,
13:35you should move away
13:37from it.
13:39What is the story behind this?
13:41I would like to ask
13:43Mr. Naqvi
13:45whether Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari
13:47is planning a diet
13:49or exercising.
13:51He has become very smart.
13:53What has Bilawal Bhutto done?
13:55Has he gone to America?
13:57I don't know.
13:59Mr. Naqvi is in Europe.
14:01Mr. Bilawal looks young.
14:03He is in Europe.
14:05Mr. Naqvi is in Europe.
14:07Mr. Bilawal went to America.
14:09In between,
14:11he comes to Atlanta.
14:13Mr. Naqvi is doing something.
14:15I wanted to ask this
14:17a few days ago.
14:19Did Mr. Bilawal
14:21get married or engaged?
14:23What did you say?
14:25Do you want to know?
14:27No, no.
14:29Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari
14:31is looking very smart.
14:33He has lost weight.
14:35He is exercising.
14:37Something is going on.
14:39Let me ask Mr. Naqvi.
14:41Yes, Mr. Naqvi.
14:43Mr. Bilawal is only 35 years old.
14:45He is young.
14:47He is good looking.
14:49He lost some weight
14:51during the election campaign.
14:53Mr. Naqvi,
14:55I hope you are sitting
14:57in a comfortable position.
14:59I don't know
15:01why Mr. Hassan Ayyub
15:03is laughing.
15:05Mr. Hassan Ayyub,
15:07why are you laughing?
15:09What is the reason?
15:11You can ask him.
15:13Anyway, back to the original question.
15:15The question is
15:17what does IMF
15:19have to do
15:21with Punjab's PSGP?
15:23The surplus budget
15:25was taken out from the PSGP.
15:27You need clarification.
15:29The provincial government
15:31promised to save
15:33a lot of money and return it.
15:35I don't see it being saved.
15:37The IMF has raised questions.
15:39Mr. Bilawal,
15:41I don't think
15:43Mr. Bilawal should have been involved.
15:45There is provincial autonomy.
15:47After the 18th amendment,
15:49the provinces are independent.
15:51The province is independent.
15:53The province of Punjab
15:55is independent.
15:57The province of Punjab
15:59is independent.
16:01The province of Punjab
16:03is independent.
16:05The province of Punjab
16:07is independent.
16:09The province of Punjab
16:11is independent.
16:13The province of Punjab
16:15is independent.
16:17The province of Punjab
16:19is independent.
16:21The province of Punjab
16:23is independent.
16:25Mr. Bilawal,
16:27Mr. Bilawal,
16:29Mr. Bilawal,
16:31Mr. Bilawal,
16:33Mr. Bilawal,
16:35Mr. Bilawal,
16:37Mr. Bilawal,
16:39Mr. Bilawal,
16:41Mr. Bilawal,
16:43Mr. Bilawal,
16:45Mr. Bilawal,
16:47Mr. Bilawal,
16:49Mr. Bilawal,
16:51Mr. Bilawal,
16:53Mr. Bilawal,
16:55Mr. Bilawal,
16:57Mr. Bilawal,
16:59Mr. Bilawal,
17:01Mr. Bilawal,
17:03Mr. Bilawal,
17:05Mr. Bilawal,
17:07Mr. Bilawal,
17:09Mr. Bilawal,
17:11Mr. Bilawal,
17:13Mr. Bilawal,
17:15Mr. Bilawal,
17:17Mr. Bilawal,
17:19Mr. Bilawal,
17:21Mr. Bilawal,
17:23Mr. Bilawal,
17:25Mr. Bilawal,
17:27Mr. Bilawal,
17:29Mr. Bilawal,
17:31Mr. Bilawal,
17:33Mr. Bilawal,
17:35Mr. Bilawal,
17:37Mr. Bilawal,
17:39Mr. Bilawal,
17:41Mr. Bilawal,
17:43Mr. Bilawal,
17:45Mr. Bilawal,
17:47Mr. Bilawal,
17:49Mr. Bilawal,
17:51Mr. Bilawal,
17:53Mr. Bilawal,
17:55Mr. Bilawal,
17:57Mr. Bilawal,
17:59Mr. Bilawal,
18:01Mr. Bilawal,
18:03Mr. Bilawal,
18:05Mr. Bilawal,
18:07Mr. Bilawal,
18:09Mr. Bilawal,
18:11Mr. Bilawal,
18:13Mr. Bilawal,
18:15Mr. Bilawal,
18:17Mr. Bilawal,
18:19Mr. Bilawal,
18:21Mr. Bilawal,
18:23Mr. Bilawal,
18:25Mr. Bilawal,
18:27Mr. Bilawal,
18:29Mr. Bilawal,
18:31Mr. Bilawal,
18:33Mr. Bilawal,
18:35Mr. Bilawal,
18:37Mr. Bilawal,
18:39Mr. Bilawal,
18:41Mr. Bilawal,
18:43Mr. Bilawal,
18:45Mr. Bilawal,
18:47Mr. Bilawal,
18:49Mr. Bilawal,
18:51Mr. Bilawal,
18:53Mr. Bilawal,
18:55Mr. Bilawal,
18:57Mr. Bilawal,
18:59Mr. Bilawal,
19:01Mr. Bilawal,
19:03Mr. Bilawal,
19:05Mr. Bilawal,
19:07Mr. Bilawal,
19:09Mr. Bilawal,
19:11Mr. Bilawal,
19:13Mr. Bilawal,
19:15Mr. Bilawal,
19:17Mr. Bilawal,
19:19Mr. Bilawal,
19:21Mr. Bilawal,
19:23Mr. Bilawal,
19:25Mr. Bilawal,
19:27Mr. Bilawal,
19:29Mr. Bilawal,
19:31Mr. Bilawal,
19:33Mr. Bilawal,
19:35Mr. Bilawal,
19:37Mr. Bilawal,
19:39Mr. Bilawal,
19:41Mr. Bilawal,
19:43Mr. Bilawal,
19:45Mr. Bilawal,
19:47Mr. Bilawal,
19:49Mr. Bilawal,
19:51Mr. Bilawal,
19:53Mr. Bilawal,
19:55Mr. Bilawal,
19:57Mr. Bilawal,
19:59Mr. Bilawal,
20:01Mr. Bilawal,
20:03Mr. Bilawal,
20:05Mr. Bilawal,
20:07Mr. Bilawal,
20:09Wherever such committees are formed, it is not a committee, it is a come-have-tea.
20:13They come, sit, chat, and leave.
20:15No, it's not come-have-high-tea, it's come-have-high-tea.
20:20So, there can be many types of tea as well.
20:22No, nowadays, what kind of tea is there without high tea?
20:24You can have it with milk.
20:26So, now you have asked the question of Bilawar Bhutto.
20:28Look, if Bilawar Bhutto says that the decision was made under pressure, then that's a good thing.
20:34Then this case becomes very solid.
20:36It's a good thing that the decision was made under pressure.
20:38The people should also be pressurized.
20:40The people in power should be pressurized by the people.
20:44They should not be pressurized by anyone else.
20:46If this decision has been made under the pressure of the people, then I think this decision is absolutely right.
20:52Okay, viewers, let's go to a short break.
20:55After the break, let's talk about Qaid, who is ready to fly to London.
21:00How long is that program?
21:02What are the facts behind it?
21:04Are there any stories?
21:06You know that something is also being told.
21:08Hassan scares us every day that a lot is going to happen.
21:13A lot is going to happen.
21:14Take care.
21:15So, what is going to happen?
21:16Who should be taken care of?
21:17We will talk after the break.
21:23Yes, viewers, respected Tahiyyat Qaid, President of Pakistan Muslim League,
21:28Ruh-e-Rama.
21:29Hassan was saying that he can dictate to the party.
21:32But I think that in a democracy, there is no dictation.
21:37There is advice, guidance.
21:39These are the words.
21:41There is a difference between me and Hassan on this.
21:43But when Irfan Siddiqui said about going to London,
21:48you know that he also said after a whistle,
21:50if we could hear it again, the producer will remove it.
21:53But he is saying that it is a routine matter.
21:57There is no big story behind it.
21:59Such people are just making up stories.
22:03If he is going, then it is decided that he is not going for a long time.
22:09He will get his check-up done.
22:11And he will go for a very short time.
22:14If he goes, then there is no need to make a big deal out of it.
22:18Or to make a conspiracy.
22:20Or to say that if Mr. Mian has gone, he will stay there.
22:23This has happened many times.
22:25Mr. Mian is not made in that soil,
22:27that he can stay away from the soil of Pakistan.
22:30So there is no need to make a big deal out of it.
22:33Absolutely, he cannot stay away from his soil.
22:36He said that there is no need to make a big deal out of it.
22:39Producer, can we hear?
22:42He also said that when the pressure increases, he keeps on blowing.
22:47The whistle keeps on blowing.
22:50Many people are also saying that there is a pressure cooker in Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
22:53which is filling up, and it can explode.
22:56With a new pressuriser or with an old anti-establishment pressuriser.
23:00Is this right?
23:02Mr. Mian keeps on venting out his pressure.
23:08He doesn't let the pressure build up.
23:11His whistle keeps on blowing, and the air keeps on coming out.
23:16Asma Shirazi is my senior.
23:18She wanted to laugh, but she couldn't.
23:22Her whistle keeps on blowing.
23:25Hassan Ayub is very happy about this.
23:27But Mr. Mian Javed Lateef, after a long time,
23:30we have taken him back in our programme.
23:35You know that his demands are made on a daily basis.
23:40But Hassan Ayub has put a ban.
23:42Beware of him.
23:44But he is saying that because it is relevant,
23:47and it is a matter of his freedom of expression,
23:50how can we ignore it?
23:53When is Mr. Mian going to London?
23:55I can't give you a date.
23:58I think maybe next month.
24:02And for how long is he going?
24:05Is he going for a long time or for a few days?
24:07No, no, for a few days.
24:09When his check-up is done,
24:11he will definitely come back, God willing.
24:14No.
24:45He can come back before that.
24:49Hassan Ayub, Senator Siddiqui is saying that
24:52there is a story-telling going on.
24:54There is a story-telling going on.
24:56And your...
24:58The pressure cooker and the whistle.
25:00The whistle keeps on blowing.
25:02Mr. Javed Lateef is saying that something is happening.
25:05Some statements will come out.
25:07Something big is going to happen.
25:09And during this big thing, he may be there.
25:12He may come first or later.
25:14I had put a ban.
25:16But you violated it.
25:18It was very important.
25:20He gave such a big news.
25:22He went to Mr. Waseem Badami's show.
25:24There was a ban on our show.
25:26But you let him come.
25:28The ban has been lifted.
25:30This thing about the pressure cooker,
25:32Irfan Siddiqui didn't create it.
25:36Neither did Asma Shirazi ask this question.
25:39This program is 3-4 months old.
25:41At that time, he had tweeted.
25:43He had tweeted, Mr. Arif Alvi,
25:45who unfortunately is the president of this country.
25:48He does his job.
25:50The dentist job was fine.
25:52But look at the people in this country.
25:54They have become the president of Pakistan.
25:56It was a place of regret for Pakistan.
25:58Listen to me.
26:00I am explaining my opinion.
26:02I don't understand my opinion.
26:04He should have been the president of Pakistan.
26:06You are absolutely right.
26:08Obviously, the people's opinion was chosen by the parliament.
26:10I just want to request you.
26:12The leader of a big party,
26:14Tahiyyad Qaed,
26:16if he keeps talking in such a way
26:18that his whistle keeps blowing
26:20and there is a pressure event,
26:22then what should we do?
26:24We don't want to understand.
26:26I want to tell you again.
26:28You didn't understand.
26:30I understood.
26:32You listen to Mr. Chaudhary quietly.
26:34No, no.
26:36Mr. Producer is saying that
26:38Mr. Chaudhary and I have nothing to do with each other.
26:40A lot of people are saying that
26:42Mr. Nawaz Sharif has a pressure cooker
26:44which is filling up.
26:46And it can explode.
26:48With a new or old
26:50anti-establishment speaker.
26:52Is this right?
26:54Mr. Mian
26:56keeps venting out
26:58his pressure.
27:00He doesn't let the pressure build up.
27:02His whistle keeps blowing
27:04and the air keeps coming out.
27:06Look at this.
27:08The pressure of the gas.
27:10You said it was yesterday or the day before.
27:12I didn't say it.
27:14You said it.
27:16Asma Shirazi
27:18had gone to Iraq.
27:20She repeated her program.
27:22Her television channel.
27:24She understood that it was yesterday or the day before.
27:26You keep repeating the news.
27:28It's important.
27:30It's an old clip.
27:32The second thing is
27:34Mr. Irfan Siddiqui
27:36is the brainchild of
27:38Mr. Arif Alvi.
27:40He posed a question
27:42to Mr. Irfan Siddiqui
27:44and he gave an answer.
27:46This is the clarification.
27:48Why do you give a clarification?
27:50I am telling you.
27:52You are confusing our viewers.
27:54You are talking from a different perspective.
27:56I am bringing you in context.
27:58There was an unfortunate
28:00President of Pakistan.
28:02His name is Dr. Arif Alvi.
28:04He attacked PTV.
28:08He had a telephone call.
28:10He was absconding.
28:12He became the President of the country.
28:14He became the President of the country.
28:16I am talking about him.
28:18Listen to this.
28:20A lot of people are saying
28:22that Mr. Nawaz Sharif has a pressure cooker
28:24which is filling up and it can explode.
28:26With a new BIA
28:28or old BIA.
28:30This is wrong.
28:32Mr. Nawaz Sharif
28:34keeps on
28:36venting out
28:38his pressure.
28:40He doesn't let the pressure build up.
28:42He keeps on whistling
28:44and the air keeps on coming out.
28:46What should we do now?
28:48Listen to me.
28:50The person who has a brainchild
28:52should be given credit.
28:54They are giving it to the Senator.
28:56No. Mr. Arif Alvi
28:58has become the President of the country.
29:00He has become the President of Pakistan.
29:02This is his tweet.
29:04The person who gets due credit
29:06was the one who talked about the pressure cooker.
29:08Unfortunately, he is not the President of the country.
29:10Let's conclude this topic.
29:12I think it's a long topic.
29:14I will talk about it later.
29:16Mr. Nagini,
29:18Dr. Arif Alvi
29:20will not talk about gas.
29:22You and I will talk about gas.
29:24There are different ways
29:26to talk about gas.
29:28Mr. Sander said that
29:30he keeps on whistling.
29:32You said that
29:34things will get better
29:36by 31st August.
29:38If they don't,
29:40there will be another Sharif.
29:42Mr. Javed Latif said
29:44that things will get better.
29:46Please connect the dots for us.
29:48You are respectable for us.
29:50We know that you are getting news from everywhere.
29:52Let's analyze this debate.
29:54Let's talk about reality.
29:56Let's connect
29:58Mr. Nawaz Sharif's departure
30:00with his return.
30:02Mr. Nawaz Sharif came to Pakistan
30:04with an impression that he will become the Prime Minister.
30:06He didn't become the Prime Minister.
30:08He was told that he was not given
30:10a simple majority.
30:12It was done on purpose.
30:14It is impossible
30:16to get a simple majority
30:18for any party
30:20in Pakistan's political bifurcation.
30:22One party takes the majority
30:24from Punjab.
30:26One party takes the majority
30:28from Sindh.
30:30If the seats are divided into three parties,
30:32no party can get a simple majority.
30:34There is no conspiracy
30:36behind this.
30:38Let's talk about Dhanli.
30:40What kind of Dhanli was it
30:42that Nawaz Sharif lost to Mansehra?
30:44What kind of Dhanli was it
30:46that the most powerful man like Rana Sanola lost?
30:48What kind of Dhanli was it
30:50that Nawaz Sharif lost to Mansehra?
30:52What kind of Dhanli was it
30:54that the most powerful man like Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
30:56lost to Ismail Khan?
30:58Now let's talk about
31:00why Mr. Nawaz Sharif didn't become the Prime Minister.
31:02There is a lot of pressure.
31:04Mr. Nawaz Sharif is the head of his party.
31:06Mr. Nawaz Sharif gets angry and says
31:08I will become the Prime Minister.
31:10I am the head of the party. I am the MLA.
31:12But he didn't become the Prime Minister.
31:14He gave up himself.
31:16He made his daughter the Prime Minister in Punjab.
31:18The conspiracy theories behind him are zero.
31:20Now let's talk about the pressure cooker.
31:22I have a question for you too.
31:24Mr. Nagbir, I have a question for you too.
31:26Mr. Nagbir, I have a question for you too.
31:28You are saying that the people who lost in the elections
31:30are losing in all the PTAs
31:32that are being recounted.
31:34So, General Faiz Ameed's network
31:36is being told that
31:38the post retirement
31:40that they did was a waste.
31:42I have heard the same thing.
31:44The people who are accusing Dhanli are seeing the truth.
31:46The pressure cooker that is being talked about
31:48again and again,
31:50the anti-establishment
31:52has no place in Pakistan now.
31:54Remember this.
31:56The anti-establishment party
31:58has no place in Pakistan now.
32:00The reason for this is
32:02that one party went so extreme
32:04after becoming anti-establishment
32:06that it made the roots of Pakistan hollow.
32:08Now no Zeeshahur political party
32:10has ever played such a game
32:12with Pakistan.
32:14Mr. Nagbir is absolutely right.
32:16Mr. Mian knows
32:18how to do politics in the current situation.
32:20The Senator has also told us
32:22that this is why
32:24they don't allow the pressure to be created.
32:26Sometimes the bell rings
32:28and the pressure goes on.
32:30We will talk after the break
32:32whether Prime Minister Modi will accept
32:34Pakistan's invitation or not.
32:38Welcome back.
32:40Ladies and gentlemen,
32:42the meeting of the Indian government
32:44is taking place on 15th and 16th of October.
32:46There is news in Don
32:48that the government of Pakistan
32:50has extended
32:52the formal invitation
32:54to the Indian government,
32:56Prime Minister Modi
32:58and all the heads of the
33:00Shingai Taawun Tanzeem
33:02have been invited.
33:04Raja Mohsin,
33:06who covers the foreign office,
33:08knows what is the procedure.
33:10When will the government
33:12accept the invitation?
33:14What is the process?
33:16Mr. Mohsin,
33:18please explain
33:20when a head of the state
33:22receives a formal invitation,
33:24what is the protocol?
33:26For how long
33:28is it necessary
33:30to inform the head of the state
33:32whether he is coming or not?
33:34If PM Modi comes to Pakistan,
33:36it is going to be
33:38a huge development.
33:40Yes,
33:42if he comes to Pakistan,
33:44it is going to be a huge development.
33:46First of all,
33:48there is a dialogue
33:50between all the member states.
33:52First of all,
33:54the dates are finalized.
33:56For this conference,
33:58the dates of 15th and 16th of October
34:00have been finalized.
34:02After that,
34:04the head of government
34:06receives the invitation.
34:08This is the initial phase.
34:10As he is the head of government,
34:12he takes some time
34:14to answer the invitation.
34:16Generally,
34:18neither Pakistan
34:20nor India
34:22participate in meetings
34:24of the head of government
34:26at the Prime Minister level.
34:28If it is a conference
34:30of the head of state,
34:32both the countries attend it.
34:34This is a conference
34:36of the head of government.
34:38We have not seen
34:40that neither India
34:42nor their Prime Minister
34:44have participated.
34:46Generally,
34:48our Minister of Foreign Affairs
34:50also participate.
34:52As you know,
34:54the situation of both the countries
34:56is a huge development.
34:58There are many speculations
35:00in Indian media.
35:02The Indian media also reported
35:04that Prime Minister Modi
35:06will not attend this conference.
35:08This is the initial phase.
35:10The invitations
35:12have been sent.
35:14Till when
35:16will we get to know
35:18whether they will attend
35:20or not?
35:22If the date is 15th and 16th of October,
35:24will we get to know
35:26at the end of September?
35:28Yes, definitely.
35:30We will get to know
35:32at the end of September.
35:34Thank you very much, Mohsin.
35:36There is a history.
35:38When Pakistan was ruled
35:40by Pakistan Muslim League Noon,
35:42the Indian government,
35:44you may remember,
35:46Mr. Vajpayee came to Lahore
35:48in 1999.
35:50After that,
35:52in 2013,
35:54Pakistan Muslim League Noon
35:56was ruled again.
35:58He came to Lahore
36:00for his daughter's wedding.
36:02He came without a visa.
36:04There are speculations
36:06that he may come.
36:08He came without a visa.
36:10He said in a speech
36:12that he doesn't need a visa
36:14to go to Pakistan.
36:16Can you tell us about it?
36:20I went to Lahore
36:22and checked.
36:24I went there
36:26without a visa.
36:28There was a reporter
36:30reporting there.
36:32Oh my God!
36:34How did he come
36:36without a visa?
36:38This was the discussion
36:40on TV.
36:42Oh my God!
36:44Mr. Naqvi,
36:46both the Prime Ministers
36:48came to Pakistan.
36:50It's a big thing.
36:52It's a good thing.
36:54Mr. Naqvi,
36:56this is the difference.
36:58In India and Pakistan's culture,
37:00when you go to someone's house
37:02and if you have a disagreement
37:04with them,
37:06you can call them anything.
37:08But when Mr. Modi came,
37:10the way he came,
37:12the whole world saw
37:14that he came with a good heart
37:16and a good mind.
37:18He tried to give
37:20a negative angle.
37:22I went there to check
37:24his strength.
37:26This is nothing.
37:30Mr. Chaudhary,
37:32I know Mr. Hassan.
37:34The problem is that
37:36Mr. Hassan said that
37:38he came on foot.
37:40But since the Modi government
37:42came, the situation
37:44with the minorities
37:46and the Kashmiris
37:48is in front of everyone.
37:50It's up to you
37:52what you do.
37:54Mr. Chaudhary,
37:56Rajiv Gandhi also came
37:58at the time of Benazir.
38:00He came on foot.
38:02I don't know what happened.
38:04I hope, Hassan,
38:06you have got the answer.
38:08Enjoy your weekend.
38:10We will meet again on Monday.