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00:00Some love. I'd be a rich man. I was drunk.
00:03Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
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00:19I'm down two pounds, Dibbers.
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00:22I disagree with you.
00:24I don't like you, Willard. You know what? You bother me.
00:26You know what? I gotta be honest with you.
00:28And I would never do Abundant Life.
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00:36Thank you, man.
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00:48Yeah, Dibbs, get your love about how you do it.
00:51Losing weight.
00:54What is the Steinmetz system? I'd like to hear that, actually.
00:56A lot of fasting.
00:58Just stop eating.
00:59Basically.
01:01All right. Christmas is a good time to do that.
01:03You know, like today I'll try to, you know, maybe today I'll have a couple light beers
01:06and then skip dinner.
01:08Perfect.
01:08Yes. Perfect.
01:10Uh-huh.
01:10It's a 90-plus.
01:11You're like my dad.
01:13My dad wanted to lose weight.
01:14Just imagine, right?
01:15You're looking at just your traditional lunch plate, right?
01:19You've got a sandwich, right?
01:21Maybe a protein in the middle.
01:23You have a vegetable or a fruit and you have some chips.
01:26Sure.
01:27And he goes, I want to lose weight.
01:28So what does he remove from that plate?
01:30The veggies.
01:32The sandwich.
01:33I'm like, what's the...
01:35No, dad, don't just go on a Fritos diet.
01:39That's not...
01:41I don't think that's how you do it.
01:42But you do you.
01:45You do you.
01:46Tell them what the show has been about, Mouth, and let's see what they think.
01:49Is it sports?
01:50Oh, yeah.
01:51Oh, yeah.
01:51Yeah, I've heard a bunch of it.
01:52Yeah.
01:53You know, I just...
01:54Well, I'd like to hear Dibbs.
01:55Should I recap it?
01:57Oh, yeah.
01:57Play it.
01:57Let's go.
01:58George Kittle yesterday after they beat the Bears.
02:01I think the message was we need to play with more of a sense of urgency and play desperate
02:08because you just haven't really sensed that.
02:09And I've been on teams where it felt like...
02:12Was it two years ago?
02:13We were on an eight, nine game win streak, wherever that was.
02:17And it literally felt like every play people were just scratching, clawing and fighting
02:19for everything.
02:20And I'm not going to call anybody out.
02:22Like, we've all not taken a playoff.
02:25Just not fought our hardest on every given play.
02:27And that was kind of the message.
02:28Like, guys, just put it all out there because we have the players, we have the playmakers,
02:33we have the play call, and we have everything to win games.
02:36But we have to do it out of desperation.
02:38And when you're playing desperate and you're playing like, hey, if we don't win this game,
02:40our season potentially is over.
02:42That desperation fuels guys in different ways.
02:45And it's just how you take that and how you channel that energy.
02:48And I thought our guys did a great job of that today.
02:50Yeah.
02:50And so I just want to, anybody who over the course of the last 11 or 12 weeks said, you
02:55know what?
02:55I just don't think this team's playing with urgency.
02:58And I just stopped playing with enough desperation.
03:01Go ahead and take your victory lap.
03:04Take your victory lap.
03:06Because your starting tight end just said that.
03:09We're not fighting, clawing, scratching for every yard like we did a couple of years ago.
03:13The question is why?
03:16That's me.
03:16Let me tell you about a marathon.
03:18Oh, God.
03:18I heard this earlier.
03:20You know, as a man who's actually run a marathon, the only one in the room, I believe your analogy
03:28was decent at best.
03:31And the math of it was way off.
03:32But I was going to let that go because you've never done it.
03:36And I understand it.
03:37And you can come back the next year and still run a marathon that fast.
03:42And I heard your analogy.
03:43It was painful.
03:44I should have used four marathons a year then.
03:47It was like a marathon itself.
03:49But I knew if I used four marathons a year, people were not going to be able to equate
03:55that.
03:55But my point is, is the 49ers are a team that's run three marathons in the last two years.
04:02And now they had to run another one at the start of the season.
04:06And there are other people that are in that race who haven't run three marathons in a
04:11year who've been training to run a good one.
04:13And you know, it takes a lot of what's it called?
04:15You got to peak at the right time.
04:18And I just think like the 49ers have run a lot of marathons and maybe they didn't run
04:24the first half of the marathons though, right?
04:26Like that.
04:27That's different, though, because I think the Chiefs because I think the Chiefs are
04:32essentially having the same kind of season as the Niners.
04:35They just want all their close games.
04:37The Niners didn't.
04:38And I'll chalk a lot of that up to my homes.
04:43Let me just jump in.
04:44I want you to respond to what I'm going to say.
04:46When I heard that, I'm not saying he's wrong.
04:48That's his reality.
04:50I thought, well, what's that's the coach's job?
04:54Oh, he's saying his reality, not to motivate, but to see that you guys are half assed and
05:01are not playing with urgency.
05:02You know better than that.
05:03What do you mean?
05:04You have to be smart.
05:05You have teenagers and young 20 year olds.
05:07So you just they're not multimillionaires.
05:09You just tell a player, you tell them to have urgency and then they do.
05:13No, Willard.
05:14No, no.
05:14This is a natural.
05:15We disagree.
05:16Fine.
05:17If I'm that's an indictment on coaches, right?
05:19Disagree.
05:20OK, why disagree?
05:21Because urgency is not created with words.
05:24Urgency is created by, in my opinion, a feeling that is in your actual belly.
05:28You actually have to feel fear for that urgency to come.
05:32And another person cannot put that in you.
05:34What's OK?
05:35You have to feel that responsibility is all of them.
05:37Everybody.
05:38No, there's not all of them.
05:39There's coaches and there's players.
05:41There are different.
05:42There's parents and kids.
05:44Of course, parents got the authority.
05:45So what?
05:46So the kids are free from responsibility.
05:48So if you're Kyle Shanahan and you hear your stud tidy and say that in week 13.
05:52Yes, that's an indictment on the coaches.
05:55That can be your opinion.
05:57And I don't think that Kyle Shanahan or anybody has the power to go to other adult men and create
06:03urgency in them.
06:04You can do that with words.
06:05That's all a coach can do.
06:07You want to do walk around with a bat and act like he's going to swing it at him.
06:12You can't do that with words.
06:14The problem, and I think this is what this tiny's point that he's talking about,
06:18the problem and the difference between the 49ers and the Chiefs in the marathons they've run
06:22is that the Chiefs have won the marathons and the 49ers did not.
06:27Therefore, they have not received the fruit, which makes all of the effort worth it.
06:32And instead, they receive what people refer to as a Super Bowl hangover,
06:37which is more just the dread of, oh, my God, we've got to now try to
06:43climb this mountain again after doing it all these times and not getting the fruit.
06:50And so what I think it led to was too many 49er players who do not believe
06:54that the regular season was a threat.
06:56And you can't tell them that it is.
06:59They have to feel it.
07:00And I don't think they felt it until Geno Smith went right down the field with two minutes to go.
07:05And in that moment, it was, oh, crap, we're actually in trouble.
07:09And then their next chance to go back out there,
07:11they got on a plane to Wisconsin without the quarterback.
07:14And now you're really in trouble.
07:16So I'm just asking.
07:17They're six and seven because of a hangover.
07:20No, they're six and seven.
07:21I'm supposed to ignore everything that we watch?
07:22You can do whatever you want, but they're six and seven for a thousand reasons.
07:26But you spotlighted one thing and said that's an indictment on coaching.
07:32I don't believe a human being can create urgency in another human being.
07:36You have to feel that.
07:38You have to have a boss's job is to motivate or light the fire under their employees.
07:44Sure.
07:45OK, and there's different ways to do that.
07:47Yes.
07:47And the employees have a responsibility, Goo, have a responsibility when that can be told to them.
07:55Or they're blind to the fact that they're doing it and then they get pulled to the side.
07:59I bet if you got Matt Hagan in here right now, he'd agree with me
08:02that he's been trying to create urgency to everybody in this industry for two years.
08:08It's not different.
08:09He's a boss.
08:09I mean, radio and football aren't different.
08:12I'm a GEO one.
08:14You're the one who took it there.
08:15You said a boss to his employees.
08:17He's the boss where the employees.
08:19And I guarantee you he would look at certain things that hosts do and go,
08:23you're not you're not hearing me.
08:26Well, you're not you're not chop chopping enough.
08:28I just that's my belief.
08:29I don't think a person can create urgency in another person.
08:32I think they have to actually feel threatened.
08:35And I don't think the 49ers were until it became too late.
08:38Potentially too late.
08:39Probably too late.
08:41I could agree more.
08:44It's not what you're saying.
08:46I know he repeated basically what I said verbatim.
08:49You heard you need Q-tips.
08:50Yeah.
08:50Because that was different.
08:52Yeah, very, very, very similar.
08:53Your thoughts, Dibbs?
08:54I think that I'm team guru here because and ultimately you as an individual have to motivate
09:00yourself, but the leader has to be able to set you in a spot where you feel the urgency.
09:05And maybe you can do that through threatening somebody's starting job, Devondre Campbell,
09:10or you see what happened with Jair Brown.
09:13He's no longer starting because Hufanga came back.
09:16So is he not feeling a certain amount of urgency and a certain amount of pressure because he's
09:20now lost his job?
09:22So I do think that it lies on the individual in the most part.
09:26But as a leader, it's your job to make sure your players are feeling the motivation and
09:32they're feeling the ability to go out there and get the job done.
09:35And none of this would be an issue if they wouldn't have blown those three games earlier
09:39in the year.
09:40So because of that, and you go to Green Bay and you get motorboated and Buffalo crushes
09:44you in a scheduled loss in the snow, now it's easy to feel urgency at five and seven.
09:49I get that.
09:50And I'm going to double back to you, Will, because this is what I told Stani.
09:53OK, let's say you're right.
09:55But it's apparent because he said it into the mic.
09:58Week 13 said player said he feels like the team hadn't been playing that on purpose.
10:04But I guess what I'm saying is why couldn't Kyle or his job?
10:08What if he were to see that week eight or nine and they could have caught it earlier?
10:13That's my biggest takeaway of, OK, he's saying this to us now, week 13.
10:18But a coach's job coach, they watch film.
10:21Kyle, I've never watched the Niners and I don't.
10:24Instead, effort is lacking.
10:26So what if Kyle was so in tune with his game and his players, he would have knew in week
10:31eight, hey Kyle, let me talk.
10:33You guys aren't doing this.
10:34And they would have caught it earlier.
10:36He didn't question effort with Chase Young against Detroit in January.
10:41We absolutely did.
10:43But that's in a season to where we're in the playoffs and we're going to the Super Bowl.
10:46Again, and that's an individual, not a collective.
10:49But it was a collective.
10:50It was more than just him.
10:51I use him as an example.
10:52But I don't know what I mean.
10:53Who else was not given effort?
10:55The whole defense.
10:55The run.
10:56We look at that one play because he actually stopped.
10:58No, but the whole run defense was absolutely absurd in the first half of that game.
11:01But my point is, like to your example, a quicker.
11:04But how do it like you?
11:06There's an assumption in there that I just can't go with that.
11:09Kyle didn't say anything.
11:10We know exactly.
11:11He didn't say anything week six or he didn't say anything week three.
11:15And what do you think Kyle would say of one of the media members to just be real?
11:18Yeah.
11:19Play that form and just wanted his thoughts.
11:22Do you think I would have been like, damn, y'all put me on front street, not trying to
11:27put me on front street because it looks like I didn't do that and they had to go police
11:32themselves.
11:32And my job is to have a pulse on all 53.
11:35It is my players.
11:36And this is where I'll defend Mark and Stiney to the extent that you can motivate.
11:40But if the person that you're trying to motivate is not being motivated by your speaking or
11:46your actions, well, then you're just, you know, whizzing into the wind and it's not
11:50going to work.
11:50And Mark uses the analogy about being a parent with kids.
11:53And, you know, he's got a senior in high school and he can motivate his kid to get up at seven
11:58o'clock and have a good breakfast.
12:00And off you go to school and you go through and you try to motivate him.
12:03And you get through 71 straight days where he's either late or not eating breakfast or
12:08whatever it is.
12:09I don't know your situation, but you got to do.
12:11I told him this last week.
12:18But the analogy works.
12:20I'm not saying that they're on the 49ers, but I am telling you right now, two things
12:25are very clear.
12:27A, my words alone cannot motivate them.
12:31And B, if we have radio shows about the job that I'm doing with the three of them and
12:38their output is what we're all judging, I would have been fired three years ago.
12:45I appreciate the honesty.
12:48Parenting is like a marathon when you think about it, Stiney.
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13:02Yeah, I firmly believe that over the course of the season, Kyle Shanahan told the Niners
13:07multiple times, we're not good.
13:09We're not good enough yet, but we're not playing well enough.
13:12We got to play harder.
13:13We got to play tougher.
13:14We got to be more physical.
13:15Like to me, those are all the same ways of saying, you know, we got to create more urgency.
13:20And I'd be shocked if he never said it, but I do agree.
13:25Like, Mark, you'll like this one.
13:27Okay, I'm ready.
13:28I say, you know, and everyone's like, well, why now?
13:30Why now?
13:31I'm like, well, because they're five and seven.
13:32If they lose, they're done.
13:34Just like, when does an alcoholic decide that one's my last one?
13:40When you absolutely 100% feel the fear of, I'm going to die if we don't do this today.
13:50I agree.
13:51Rock bottom.
13:51Not, not.
13:53Oh, it might not go well.
13:54Right.
13:55If I don't do it today.
13:56Means you're not quite ready.
13:57Nope.
13:58Well, here's an example of Kyle Shanahan.
14:01I do like that.
14:02But when I look at what Shanahan did, this is where I think that he missed the bar.
14:08All right.
14:08So we had Ronnie Bell drop a very important pass, which didn't directly result in a loss,
14:14but it kind of did.
14:15And Ronnie Bell was allowed to still be a niner for five more weeks.
14:19And then you cut him.
14:20Here's an idea.
14:21If you want to motivate when he drops the ball, you cut him.
14:25You cut that man.
14:26You cut that man the next day.
14:28And you tell your team, guess what, fellas?
14:31This is not going to be tolerated instead.
14:33Well, you know, we're going to give Ronnie a few more chances and stuff.
14:37And, um, and, uh, it was, it was kind of a flaccid move to cut him five weeks later.
14:44That's kind of a hard thing to do on a physical mistake.
14:48And you should not raise your voice.
14:49It's too late.
14:50And Ronnie Bell has been making those mistakes over and over.
14:53And I don't know if you watched a lot of Red Zone yesterday.
14:56I don't know if you saw Ray, Ray McLeod.
14:58Doing his thing with the Atlanta Falcons.
15:00Fumbled the game away.
15:01Dropped the pass.
15:03Fumbled the game away.
15:04Fumbled the game away.
15:05Ray, Ray McLeod.
15:06He's a fumbler.
15:07Yeah.
15:07He's a fumbler.
15:08So if you want to motivate, there's ways you can motivate, but Kyle didn't do it.
15:11And so.
15:12Well, and I also think, and okay, Ronnie Bell, I'll go with you on, but if,
15:16you know, let's say Christian McCaffrey comes back and Kyle's like,
15:20there's something's missing.
15:22Now, I, whether it's explosion, I mean, what do you, what are you gonna take him out?
15:27You're going to have to say he'll get better.
15:30He'll, he'll get better.
15:31Well, he's earned to not take out.
15:33Like he would be foolish to take him out.
15:35Okay.
15:35But that's one of the problems with the Niners.
15:37They've all proven they're great players.
15:40What's he going to do?
15:41Take, there's like 11 guys he'll never touch.
15:44Right.
15:45Because he can't, like, you can't touch Kittle.
15:47Can't touch Purdy.
15:48Can't touch McCaffrey.
15:50Can't touch Trent.
15:51Can't touch Bosa.
15:53Can't touch Warner.
15:54If Greenlaw gives up a completion on Thursday night, should they publicly announce no contract
16:00extension?
16:01Yeah, that's it.
16:02No, but Willard to Stiney's point.
16:04I mean, these are physical mistakes.
16:05Like I shouldn't play Greenlaw 90% of the game.
16:08Whatever.
16:09However much they play, they got to ramp them up.
16:11Same way they did with Christian.
16:13I don't think you can answer right now.
16:16I don't think Mark Willard's number one answer is going to be,
16:19they weren't playing with the urgency that Kittle talked about.
16:23There's so much more to me.
16:25There are many things.
16:26I don't know what the number one answer is.
16:29I don't think.
16:30Have you seen a lack of effort this year from them?
16:32I think that that's not the phrase that I would use.
16:35It's not lack of effort.
16:37Like so many people think that they are giving max effort every day.
16:42And if somebody was chasing them, they'd get faster.
16:46Do you know what I mean?
16:47Like that, that's.
16:48I don't want to agree with you.
16:50They're, they're like somewhere in the whole humanness of all of this.
16:55I think there was a disease of the regular season is not a threat.
17:01And, and, and, and nobody to the top.
17:04Nobody.
17:04No, it doesn't.
17:06Everything starts at the top.
17:07Because they don't, they don't.
17:09Well, that's true.
17:09I won't excuse Kyle Shanahan for allowing that.
17:12You can do whatever you want.
17:13But I'm not going to excuse Kyle Shanahan for allowing that to pervade.
17:17It's not allowing it dibs.
17:19Nobody would look either each other in the eye and say that it's just, it's just in there.
17:26They don't think they think it, but they do because it's just in there.
17:31The way that I've, the analogy I've always used is that you could like,
17:36Stani just talked about fasting.
17:38He could fast for three days, but he's not as hungry as someone who does not have access to food.
17:45Like he's just not.
17:47And you can't, you can't then say, oh, it's this person, this other person's responsibility
17:53to make me feel even hungrier.
17:55Like it just, it doesn't work that way.
17:57Somewhere in there, based on the history, the history of this team,
18:01I think they didn't really truly believe the regular season was a threat.
18:06They took it for granted.
18:07They did not think that the NFC West had any damn chance of beating them.
18:12I don't disagree with you.
18:13But when that attitude is pervasive, where does that lie in terms of responsibility on each and
18:21every one of them?
18:21Because I can't believe you can't, you won't assign blame.
18:26I can't believe that a human being can look at a room full of adults
18:34and just with words and all of them would go, oh my God, he's right.
18:38Actions, leadership.
18:39Ibrafluous lost his job because they blew six straight games.
18:43Ibrafluous lost his job because they're a moronic organization who hasn't gotten it
18:47right for 40 years.
18:48What about if at training camp, Hal Shanahan got the team together and he goes, you know,
18:55my dad's been in this league forever.
18:56I've been in this league forever.
18:58You know, where we are right now as a team after the last five years, we had tough loss.
19:03I'm just telling you guys right now, this year, I know you don't want to hear it,
19:07but this year is actually going to be harder by five times than the last two years.
19:12And it's because we're mentally tired.
19:15I think we're physically probably more banged up than we think.
19:18So I'm just telling you right now, this year is going to be a bear and we're going to have
19:23to be prepared for it.
19:25And there's just no other doubt about it.
19:29We're going to have to find a level maybe that we haven't even found, if you can believe that.
19:34And Debo Samuel's answer was, we've been the best team in the league for a while now.
19:40Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:41Coach, we got it.
19:42And I like it too.
19:43Let's say, let's liken it to a marathon, Dibs.
19:45I love this.
19:46So the world record for a marathon is what?
19:49208?
19:50I believe it's sub two hours now.
19:52Oh my God.
19:52Is it really?
19:54Well, somebody ran, it's a little bit of a nuanced question because there is a sub two
19:59hour marathon that was run, but it was not sanctioned.
20:02There was like a pace vehicle and they did it at a NASCAR track.
20:06There were, I believe, four Kenyans who ran it and the winner was like 159 and change.
20:12What I'm getting at is like, I liken it to, okay, they ran a marathon last year and they
20:16ran in 212 and they're like, damn, that was our personal best, but you still finished
20:21in second place.
20:23And now they're like, we got another marathon coming up this year and we've got to run our
20:28best ever.
20:30We got to run our best ever marathon this year, but we might not be able to do it because
20:37a lot of the past marathons have now taken it out of us.
20:41Willard, you use the word.
20:46I love you pal, but listen, you use the word fear.
20:49So the late great Chuck Daly, I believe managed with a natural fear.
20:54Pat Riley feel the great ones.
20:56Bill Walsh.
20:57I'm not, this is not on Kyle.
20:59I'm just wondering when I heard you say fear, I've worked for managers.
21:03I'm not an athlete.
21:04Did manage with fear, your job, you would be replaced or fired.
21:09It's the most uncomfortable feeling you think about work the night before.
21:13When you said fear, could there be ball coaches?
21:17You think in the NFL, I think I know my answer.
21:20Did manage with fear to where maybe they're in week 13, their star tied in wouldn't say
21:27we were kind of, we didn't know what we weren't.
21:29We didn't know.
21:29You know what I mean?
21:30Of course.
21:30And there could be, I don't think you see it in sports very much anymore.
21:34I don't respond to it as a person.
21:36And I think that's part of what we're talking about here.
21:38When you're managing a football team, you're talking about 60 to 70 different people.
21:44And we all know that everybody responds to different kinds of managing and coaching.
21:48And that's why I say what I say.
21:50It's not to excuse Kyle because he's in the building too.
21:52So it's all of them.
21:54It's all of them.
21:55And you can't just go in front of the room and say one thing and everybody gets it.
21:59I just don't believe in that.
22:00Bill Belichick never had a problem going year after year running.
22:03Sure he did.
22:04Running marathon after marathon.
22:06Sure he did.
22:06Susie, he was there.
22:08Before he had Tom and after he had Tom, he had all kinds of problems.
22:10But for 17 years, he had Tom, he didn't seem to have an issue with this whole marathon.
22:16And why did that happen?
22:19Because the players were actually leading the way.
22:23You can take the credit away from Bill and you can take the blame away from Kyle.
22:28I did a show for three years.
22:29I'm not going to take the blame away from Kyle or take the credit away from Bill.
22:32It's all the same.
22:34Remember when Brady said this team can coach itself?
22:36I worked the show for three years with someone who was in the locker room.
22:40No doubt.
22:41And let me tell you.
22:42And he said, I don't know how we got motivated because boy, this marathon stuff is really taxing.
22:46He told you that the Patriot Way takes over the building at such a level.
22:50Bill doesn't need to talk to anybody.
22:52Bill didn't talk to anybody.
22:53But who created the Patriot Way?
22:56Yeah, Bill and Tom.
22:57So what's the Niner Way?
22:58The Niner Way is roll over in the fourth quarter.
23:01Oh, come on, come on, come on, come on.
23:05Now you're just, now you're just being a fireball.
23:07What's the Niner Way?
23:09Tell me what the Niner Way is.
23:10I don't know what the Niner Way is.
23:12Thank you, Jed.
23:14All I know is that under Kyle Shanahan, it has usually meant a deep playoff run.
23:18Right.
23:18I don't know any other team that has a quote way.
23:20That's the greatest dynasty in the history of the NFL.
23:23And it clearly actually had more to do with the quarterback than the coach.
23:27The Chiefs have a way.
23:28If you want to cherry pick it, you can't.
23:30I'm not cherry picking.
23:32You're talking about teams who can or can't motivate.
23:38The Patriots were able to do it, whether it was because of this way and the players
23:42or whatever it was.
23:44The Niners don't have it.
23:45No, because they don't have the greatest quarterback who's ever lived.
23:48Nor do they have the greatest coach who's ever lived.
23:51I think we could agree to let it there.
23:52Well, we'll be listening.
23:54Sure.
23:55I mean, what a bar.
23:59Let's just put on the rest of the year because, you know, we're tired.
24:02We ran a marathon last year.
24:03No, they're trying.
24:04And I'm leg weary.
24:06Now you're making fun and that's when I draw the line and I draw it on 95-7, the game.