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00:00All righty, it's crossover time. Let's welcome in Mark Willard and Dan Dibley.
00:04Gentlemen, how are you?
00:07Hey-o, doing great.
00:08We're good.
00:09Belly's full?
00:10Yeah.
00:10Oh, God, yeah.
00:12Holiday pot luck.
00:13No, I didn't bring anything. So when you don't bring anything, then...
00:17Oh, you're going to make me feel bad.
00:19No, no, no. It's just... I'll save it for Friday.
00:21Go ahead. Use your line.
00:22I knew it. I knew it. I knew that was going to be your take. I knew it.
00:26When you bring food, you can be a lion or a lioness. You get to partake in the initial kill.
00:32When you bring nothing, then you get left into either hyena, tier two, or vulture, tier three.
00:39When you bring nothing to a potluck, you don't get to eat until the potluck is over.
00:44You're right.
00:45My belief.
00:46No, you're right. You are emotionally right, except for the culture of this business.
00:53And my guess is there ain't one host, and probably not one producer,
01:00and probably not one technical director that brought a damn thing.
01:05Maybe one or two of them, the super nice ones.
01:08Grandy, did you bring anything?
01:10God, no.
01:10Did you bring anything? He just shrugged.
01:11I said no.
01:12Did you bring anything?
01:13No, I was here until midnight.
01:14Maddy, did you bring anything?
01:15I forgot.
01:16I'll speak for Bonte and Joe. They didn't. You and me, Dibs, we didn't.
01:20Lucas is wearing funny glasses in the other room.
01:23That's all.
01:23He brought a positive attitude.
01:25Yeah.
01:26It counts.
01:27I'm not proud of it, but it's the culture of our industry.
01:31Well, that is as big of an excuse as it is, Evan, saying that they're emotionally exhausted.
01:38It's an equally weak excuse.
01:41It was a take. I completely, steadfastly, and categorically disagree with that as
01:50a reason why the Niners aren't doing well.
01:52Why? How would you know?
01:55I don't know. Here's what I do know.
01:57When you sign up to play football, your job is to go out there and play and win games.
02:02And if you're really tuckered out from a game back in February,
02:06and you're daubers down because Mahomes beat you in overtime, get over it.
02:12Now, that's not fair.
02:12Get out of here.
02:13That's not how life works.
02:15I feel like that's happened multiple times.
02:17I wasn't listening at that particular time, Evan, but my bet is-
02:20It's about 10, 15.
02:21You were not presenting it to the audience as you would say an excuse.
02:27There's a difference between an excuse and a reason.
02:30What's the difference?
02:31Well, human beings are not in control of their emotions all the time.
02:35So I don't think any 49er, for example, is saying,
02:38well, look, I know that I'm still getting paid for this week,
02:41but I'm kind of feeling down, so I don't think I need to go give my best effort.
02:46If you're emotionally exhausted, it does not mean that you're not giving your best effort.
02:51I think the 49ers are giving their best effort.
02:53But any human being who is emotionally spent, distracted, exhausted,
02:58got stuff going on at home, there's a reason, for example,
03:01Charverius Ward made game checks the last two weeks,
03:04but he didn't play and no one's going to come down his road for that.
03:08Because he is emotionally in a completely different space.
03:11You can't just flip a switch and be your best when you're not all there.
03:17But when you've been really good for the majority of games,
03:22I don't think you can then, and you can say and you can think whatever you want,
03:25and I'm not coming down your road because you know I love you and I admire you, but...
03:29No, but which games, last year or this year?
03:31This year, the land game.
03:32You played three good quarters and I said this to you, Stiney,
03:36I texted you and I should have texted Evan because I know you don't look at your phone,
03:39and that's actually a good thing.
03:40There have been four instances this year where they have had a three-score lead.
03:45And in all four of those instances, they've been outscored the rest of the way.
03:49And in all four of those games, they actually did win the game still,
03:52but you guys were having a conversation later about them closing.
03:56Are they, like, why aren't they closing?
03:58And is this team a closer?
04:00And so I did quick research on my way in, pulled over so as to not text and drive,
04:05and there have been four games where they've had those leads,
04:07and in all four games, the other team made a run at them,
04:11and so those games didn't become easy blowouts, second team,
04:16you know, rest the quarterback kind of games.
04:18So they haven't had enough three-score leads is what you're saying?
04:21They've had four of them.
04:22Yeah, but they've won all those, right?
04:24Right, I guess my point is that in those games where they've had a four-score lead,
04:28they haven't made it a three-score lead,
04:30they haven't made it a four and five-score lead to where you can rest your guys.
04:35Have your backup quarterback in.
04:36They were up by 19 on the Jets, and they got outscored 12 to 6.
04:40They were up by 20 on the Patriots.
04:42They got outscored 13 to 10.
04:44They were up by 20 against Seattle the first time.
04:47They got outscored 21 to 13,
04:49and they were up by 17 against the Cowboys, and that game got close,
04:52and they got outscored 14 to 3.
04:54So it's also a lot to ask for teams to go up four scores on another NFL team.
04:58Yeah, but think about last year.
05:00Last year, they did that.
05:01Do we go up four scores?
05:03How many times do you go up by four scores?
05:05Well, no, how many games did they win like by three scores
05:08when it was all said and done, I wonder?
05:10Actually, the stat will tell you, and I don't know about three scores, four scores,
05:16but when the Niners, this was actually something that I thought was not
05:20a feather in the cap of Kyle Shanahan.
05:22If you look at last year, when they're up by double digits or two scores,
05:27they kind of have to be in order to win.
05:29It's the close games that the Niners don't win.
05:31Like, that's been their fourth quarter MO.
05:34If it's tight or if it gets tight, you're not going to lean on, you know,
05:38the Green Bay game, the Detroit game, as it turned out in playoffs.
05:42Those games were sort of against the grain.
05:44That's not the way most Niner games went.
05:46So if you look at last year, they kind of have to be up by double digits
05:50in order to actually get the win.
05:52Well, OK, here we go.
05:54Let's look at it.
05:54This is how it started last year.
05:56They won 30 to 7 against the Steelers.
05:59Beat the Rams 30-23.
06:02Giants 30 to 12.
06:04Yep, that's three scores.
06:05By the way, remember that Rams game was a double digit game
06:08and then Sean McVegas kicked a field goal on the last play of the game for no reason at all.
06:13But not a three score game.
06:14No, but it was a double digit.
06:16It was a dunk for blowouts.
06:17I'm looking for two scores.
06:20Arizona, they won 35-16.
06:22Yep, that's three games so far.
06:23Cowboys 42-10.
06:25That's four.
06:26Then they went on their three game losing streak.
06:28Then they bounced back.
06:29Jacksonville 34-3.
06:30That's five.
06:31Tampa Bay 27-14.
06:34Seattle 31-13.
06:37That's six now.
06:39Philly 42-19.
06:41That's seven.
06:42Seattle 28-16.
06:44The Cardinals 45-29.
06:47And then they lost to the Ravens.
06:48Then they beat the Commanders 27-10.
06:50So then the last game didn't matter.
06:53But they did not win a game by single digits except for Sean McVegas.
06:58Everything else was a double digit win.
07:00And the playoffs were against the game.
07:05That's correct.
07:06And that was kind of my point of sending that because you guys were talking about them closing.
07:10And this year, they've had spots where they've been up by that much.
07:14And they haven't gone to a 30-7 or a 42-10 or a 34-3.
07:20That hasn't happened.
07:21So why hasn't it happened?
07:23That becomes, to me, an interesting part of the show today.
07:26Little bit on both sides of the ball of an issue, though.
07:29Like, you want the offense to extend.
07:31You'd also like if a defense is given a 20-point lead, like, dude, you know the other team's
07:37throwing the ball.
07:37Squeeze them.
07:38Or a special teams to not give up a LaVisca Chenault or one of the various muffs or the
07:44collision fumbles or the block punt.
07:47And we can run through the whole list.
07:48But yeah, it's been a part of it as well, no doubt.
07:52The question we started with was, what's going on with the 49ers?
07:55Yeah.
07:56So...
07:57Well, this is just...
07:59No, no, no.
07:59Yes.
07:59Well, no.
08:00I get it.
08:00It's a great question.
08:01The emotions behind that are...
08:03Well, yeah.
08:04Like, that's a broad question.
08:05Yeah, exactly.
08:06And that's why...
08:07That's exactly why we phrased it.
08:08And the reason is because all my buddies back East are texting, what's going on with the
08:14Niners?
08:14What is going on with the Niners?
08:15So I just thought...
08:15I have a question at the wedding this weekend.
08:17Yeah.
08:17What's going on?
08:18So what would you say, Stein?
08:19What's going on with the Niners?
08:21And my first answer is...
08:22Yeah, I was emotionally exhausted.
08:23...doesn't feel like they're together.
08:25And then I expounded a little bit on it.
08:27I liked it.
08:28But what do you say when you expound on it a little bit?
08:30I just...
08:31From the offseason to Pearsall, just to the injuries, they just haven't had any cohesion.
08:40Is it chemistry, camaraderie, maybe?
08:43But I...
08:44And again, Ross Tucker said, this is not an excuse, but sometimes there are reasons.
08:49If you look at the...
08:51McCaffrey missed eight games.
08:54Aiyuk played, not himself, missed now four games.
08:58Pearsall joined the team halfway through this season.
09:02Jennings has missed a game.
09:04Kittle's missed two games, maybe.
09:07Yep, Kittle, Debo.
09:08And you might say, Debo, one game.
09:10That's a great season for Debo.
09:12Only one missed game.
09:13But the game he misses, it changed...
09:15Like, their offense, I think, has proven they miss a guy, things change.
09:23Yeah.
09:24Well, yes.
09:25Like, the simple answer is yes.
09:27The reason...
09:28And I was talking to Dibbs about this yesterday.
09:30I have a hard time letting the Niners use injuries as a full-blown reason.
09:36Like, the reason.
09:37And here's why.
09:38First of all, obviously, you can look around the league and, right, the Lions are missing
09:43their best defensive player.
09:44And the Chiefs lost their receiving core.
09:46And, like, these teams are both nine and one.
09:50The second thing, and maybe the larger reason for me, though, is if it were the injuries,
09:55you would go out there and you'd get outplayed.
09:57I agree.
09:58They've had three games.
09:59And you keep outplaying the opponent.
10:01Eight out of ten times, you've outplayed the opponent.
10:05And three of those eight times, you've still lost.
10:08So you can't say, well, it was the injuries.
10:11It didn't help you.
10:12But whatever humans you had for that game outplayed the other team.
10:16I would say...
10:16And you still lost.
10:17I would say Seattle was more an even-steven game that you got beat-ish.
10:22Because if you look at the stats, they were pretty similar.
10:25When it was all said and done.
10:26I'm not watching the game they outplayed them.
10:27Yeah, because of the last two drives.
10:29Yeah, well, that's true.
10:30Both the leaves and the stats got evened up.
10:33But I'm with you.
10:34That was less of a gag than the other two.
10:37Like, I can't...
10:38The loss to the Rams and to the Cardinals, I agree.
10:42How can you say injuries when you had both those games in control
10:47and you let it slip away late?
10:50That, to me, isn't injuries.
10:51Injuries would be, you know, the Cardinals just beat you 27-9.
10:56That might be injuries.
10:57Dude, they were clowning the Rams.
10:59Brock Purdy was slinging it all over the place.
11:02Jawan Jennings was a star.
11:04They were killing the Rams.
11:06I still don't know how the hell they lost that game.
11:08And the Rams were also hurting that game.
11:10So, you know, they were missing both their wide receivers
11:12and three starting offensive linemen.
11:13So it's not as if they haven't...
11:16You know, I don't know.
11:17Like, to me, that's why exhaustion was my answer,
11:20just because of everything that happened
11:21towards the end of last year, into this summer,
11:24into the injuries and the inconsistency
11:28and the lack of chemistry.
11:29And I don't know, just overall,
11:31like, I feel like at the beginning of last season,
11:33they had some of the, you know, similar stuff happen.
11:35Bosa holdout.
11:36But it was just, you could tell from the first game
11:39how locked in they were
11:40and how driven they were almost every single drive.
11:44And I haven't seen it all,
11:46but maybe one game against the Jets.
11:50But this team just doesn't appear to me
11:54to be as siloed in as they were last year.
11:58I have a hard time with that,
12:00because you have probably in your starting 22,
12:03you've got at least eight guys who didn't play last year,
12:06whether it was Mason and Poonie and Green
12:10and Malik Mustafa and Devondre Campbell.
12:14You go across the line with Floyd.
12:15He wasn't here last year.
12:16So as we start to look at who's actually playing,
12:19I don't know if those players,
12:20are they getting it by osmosis, this feeling of exhaustion?
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12:31I'd love to answer that.
12:32Yes, absolutely.
12:34The heartbeat of the team.
12:35And the reason I give Evan,
12:37like I give some credence to what you're saying
12:39is by looking at the Warriors.
12:41Like you can have new Warriors in,
12:42but if Steph, Dre and Klay were exhausted
12:44or mad at one another or whatever,
12:46that team's gonna crater.
12:47You can't manufacture joy.
12:49We watched it the last two years with the Warriors.
12:51It's a whole dynasty built on playing with joy.
12:54And the second it's not there,
12:55you can see it, feel it, all of that.
12:58And there may be new role players coming in,
13:00but you know if Klay Thompson, for example,
13:03is all ticked off.
13:04You can like literally turn on the TV and see it.
13:07And so I look at this 49er group and I do see that.
13:12I don't know if I'm, I wouldn't use it as an excuse.
13:14It's not anything, but I've listened to enough NBA players
13:18who are like June teams every year,
13:22like the Warriors have been.
13:23And they talk about it.
13:24They're like those extra games and that process
13:28and the emotions that go into that.
13:30It takes a toll after a period of time.
13:34And for the Niners to, especially last year,
13:37to climb all the way back, right?
13:39You go to the Super Bowl, you lose,
13:40and then multiple trips to the NFC title game
13:43with massive disappointment.
13:45Finally get back to the mountain.
13:47Get your lead.
13:49And then have that happen again.
13:51I gotta imagine the likes of all the people who held out
13:56and the D-Bows and the Warners
13:58and the Kittles of the world and everything.
14:01Yeah, man.
14:02I think you could phrase it a different way.
14:04I think it has taken a toll.
14:06So I'll go back to what I asked earlier.
14:09And I want somebody to help me with this
14:10because I truly don't know what's the difference
14:13between a reason and an excuse.
14:15Because for me, a reason is our way of saying,
14:18well, these are facts.
14:19And an excuse has more of a negative slant.
14:22But for me, the two things are almost Siamese twins.
14:26It's just about how you want to look at it.
14:28I guess the difference is it would be an excuse
14:30if they were saying it, but we're saying it.
14:32What about this?
14:33I don't need an excuse.
14:34I'm sitting here doing a radio show.
14:36I'm right.
14:37And I mean, we can say it's a reason,
14:38but we don't know it's a reason.
14:40We're just guessing.
14:41Nobody's excusing anything.
14:42Nobody's saying it's okay that you're five and five.
14:45You're tired.
14:46That's an excuse.
14:47An excuse is when somebody sleeps through something
14:50and comes out and goes, stupid alarm.
14:52Yeah, right.
14:53That's an excuse.
14:56I'm not on the 49ers.
14:58All I'm saying is what Evan's observation is, I share it.
15:02And then you can do whatever you want with that.
15:04I discarded it is what I've done.
15:06That's fine.
15:06How about this?
15:07I mean, injuries are also a reason, but that's an excuse.
15:11How about this?
15:13You just list it as an excuse, but that's a reason why.
15:14They're missing guys every single week.
15:16Sure.
15:16Here's an idea.
15:17When you have a guy come back from injury,
15:19maybe you don't use them like you used to use them
15:21because he's still in training camp.
15:23And look at Brandon Aiyuk.
15:24His first two games, he had six catches.
15:26And we all, every one of us ripped Aiyuk.
15:29Well, you shouldn't have held in.
15:31This is your training camp.
15:32And you came out stinky.
15:33Look at McCaffrey in these two games.
15:35He's been subpar.
15:36And you can lean on it and you can say,
15:39well, you know, CMC is going to be better.
15:40Did they win the Tampa game without him playing 90% of snaps?
15:43Tampa Bay is terrible.
15:44And look at what he did against Seattle.
15:47They almost beat you though.
15:48They almost beat you.
15:48You needed Christian McCaffrey to beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
15:52That's where you're at.
15:52If you would have played Jordan Mason, you would have won him by 25.
15:55I think you would have won by 25 points.
15:58I think you win by double digits if Jake Moody just kicks the ball straight.
16:02We're probably overthinking that game.
16:04But you've been trying to say something for about eight minutes.
16:06Let me ask you this.
16:08How many rookies were on the team last year that contributed?
16:12Oh, God.
16:13Rookies.
16:14True rookies.
16:15Yep.
16:15Good call.
16:16Very few.
16:17Okay.
16:18Now we fast forward to this year.
16:20Poonie, he starts.
16:23Pearsall, he's playing a role.
16:25Garendo, playing a role.
16:26Cowan, playing a role.
16:28Mustapha, green, playing roles.
16:31Your greatest strength could also be your biggest weakness.
16:35If we're talking about this as a championship team, boy, they got six rookies who are playing.
16:40Well, I mean, Garendo and Cowan are special teams.
16:43That felt like a reach to me.
16:45Well, Garendo has had games.
16:46Garendo helped him win a couple games.
16:48Garendo played a lot out of the backfield at times.
16:51Because he had to.
16:52Right.
16:52Because Jordan Mason apparently wasn't helping you get 25-point leads.
16:55He had an AC joint injury.
16:57You want to talk about injuries?
16:58He had an injury.
16:59The quarterback has more rushing touchdowns than your RB1.
17:02Right.
17:02Yeah.
17:03And who's fault is that?
17:05The running back.
17:05The offensive line is the problem.
17:07Okay.
17:08And look at their offensive line.
17:09And, you know, Mark was saying on our show thread, oh, McCaffrey had a quiet game because
17:14there was no holes.
17:15And then J.P. Mason gets in there and has two runs, eight and five.
17:18And okay, J.P., that's all we need to see from you.
17:20300-yard rushing games, first four games of the season.
17:23Right.
17:23Because he is more forceful right now than Christian McCaffrey.
17:26I don't know about that.
17:28I'm not afraid to say this.
17:29The one thing I think is fair—
17:30So he didn't look that way before he stopped playing.
17:32The one thing—
17:32Because he got hurt.
17:33Yeah.
17:33Again, if we want to use excuses and reason, I'm sorry, Stein.
17:36You don't need to—
17:36And you also have broken hands, so you can't catch the ball.
17:38But when are we going to do that?
17:39Because you won't let Brock have that in the Minnesota game last year.
17:42You've been very firm.
17:43If you're on the field, you're healthy.
17:45You've said that a thousand times.
17:46No doubt.
17:47So don't give me J.P. Mason was hurt when he was out there running half speed.
17:51I'm just saying that if players are hurt, you know, and players are playing, maybe they're
17:54not going to be as effective.
17:55If they're on the field, they're on the field.
17:57No doubt.
17:57And you've got a CMC on the field now who's not at 100 percent, and he's playing his way
18:02through training camp, and nobody wants to hold his feet to the fire because, oh, it's
18:07CMC and we don't want to do that.
18:08I get it.
18:09No, I also think that is something that factors into the frustration that they're feeling
18:13is that you're expecting this guy to unreasonably be your savior out of the bye week.
18:19And he's—shocker—not 100 percent.
18:21And so you look exactly the same offensively as you have for the first eight weeks, and
18:26you're wondering, when is it going to change?
18:28I'd argue worse.
18:29Or worse, yeah.
18:30I'd argue worse.
18:31And I got—we got a little McCaffrey something for everybody here when—in a few minutes.
18:37Here's the way I look at it.
18:39Rather than look at it, you know, McCaffrey got a full workload right off the bat.
18:44I look at it as—and I think some coaches look at it this way.
18:48You played eight games without McCaffrey.
18:50You had Jordan Mason helping you.
18:53You had Garendo helping you.
18:54Now here comes McCaffrey.
18:56Forget McCaffrey for a minute.
18:58If I'm Kyle Shanahan, my first thought is, how do I keep these other two guys in the
19:04mix somehow?
19:06Because they have contributed, but they both played just two plays on Sunday.
19:12But I think that's kind of who Kyle is as a coach.
19:16It's a fair point.
19:17I mean, it's a completely fair point.
19:19And, you know, I have no idea on any given game or play, like if Mason had been in, what
19:25would he have done with this run?
19:27You know, I know we like to manufacture in our minds, well, if he had played, it would
19:30have gone better because it went better the two plays that we did.
19:33I have no idea what would happen.
19:34I do know that Garendo misses blocks.
19:38I do know that Jordan Mason misses more blocks than Christian McCaffrey.
19:42And I would bet that if you got Kyle in a private room, that's what his answer would
19:47be, is we're throwing the ball a little bit more this year.
19:50And Christian McCaffrey is a much better seasoned blocker than the other two.
19:55But I share what you're saying.
19:57I think a lot of people do, which is keep those other guys engaged and see if you can
20:04find creative ways.
20:05Like, there's no rule against both of them being on the field at once.
20:09Well, that's where Juszczyk comes in.
20:12Or Debo, if he was able to, you know, reclaim some semblance of his form in the last few
20:17If you look at Juszczyk, he played only in 37% of snaps, which is way low for him.
20:22A little bit low, yeah.
20:23So they didn't do a lot of 21 personnel.
20:25He did get hurt a little bit in the second half.
20:27And even when he was in there, they didn't have him as a true fullback very often.
20:30They had him up there as the second tight end because on your roster, you only have
20:35one tight end outside of George Kittle that you trust.
20:38You have Jake Tonges, who is a special teamer, and you have Eric Saubert.
20:43And Tonges did not have an offensive snap.
20:45So when you lose Kittle, now you're kind of screwed because you can't go two tight
20:50ends.
20:51It's a good point.
20:52And again, I don't want to get into is it a reason or excuse, but they've had no
20:59consistency with their personnel this year.
21:02They get McCaffrey back, but Iyuk's gone.
21:05And, you know, Jennings is a game here or there.
21:08And again, I'm not saying that they should be better.
21:10They should be at least 6-4, but they're not.
21:14And so what's the point of even discussing it?
21:17I don't think the season's over by now.
21:19No, I don't either.
21:19No.
21:20I mean, you got seven games left.
21:22If you guys had to bet right now, are all of us still on the we would pick them to win
21:28the division?
21:29No.
21:29No.
21:30Oh, you're not?
21:30No.
21:31Wow.
21:31No, no, not anymore.
21:32And think about this, and I put this on our show thread.
21:35They have seven games left.
21:36And right now, and I don't know this exactly, but I'm guessing that they'll be underdog
21:40in three of them.
21:41They're underdog at Green Bay.
21:43I would guess they'll be underdog at Buffalo.
21:45Buffalo coming off a bye.
21:47And then Detroit at home feels to me like it's trending toward them being an underdog.
21:52If you win the four games you're favored in and you lose the three games where you're
21:55underdog, you go nine and eight.
21:57You don't make the playoffs.
21:59Yeah, and that's why I got to believe this is where I give them the benefit of the doubt
22:05combined with the division.
22:07I got to believe they're not a 500 team, but I may be wrong.
22:13And I don't think any team's going to kind of seize the division, which mainly would
22:18be the Cardinals right now.
22:19Mainly, I mean, they've got those other teams have much easier schedules than the 49ers,
22:24and now they've all got a game in hand.
22:26At least they've got a game in hand on the Niners.
22:28For those of you who enjoyed this, like I don't know if you all saw the analytics of
22:32just, and it's not about winning the division, it's just playoffs.
22:35If they beat Green Bay, the analytics, the playoff odds are about a 52% if they beat
22:41Green Bay.
22:42If they lose to Green Bay, 15%.
22:45Yeah.
22:46And where are they now?
22:47Like 28?
22:48That's where ESPN had them at 28, so right in there.
22:51I don't have the exact number right now, but that's all based on this weekend.
22:54And the other thing is-
22:55They're underdogs.
22:56They're supposed to lose.
22:57And it's probably going to have to go through the division, winning the division.
23:01But if they lose to the Packers, then they got to win the division if you look at the
23:07standings.
23:08Absolutely.
23:09If they beat the Packers, then the wild card's still there.
23:13You hope they won't need it.
23:15But if the Cardinals rip off eight in a row instead of four, then you're still alive.
23:21But if the Cardinals rip off four and you lose, then you're done.
23:25If you just lose to Buffalo and Miami the rest of the way and win the other five and
23:29you're 10-7, I do think you're a playoff team.
23:32Because your divisional record would be better.
23:34Your conference record would be better.
23:36You'd have the tiebreaker against Green Bay and Chicago if they were able to find a way
23:41to be a part of that.
23:42And you would have beaten Arizona.
23:44You would have beaten LA.
23:46I think that 10-7 would be good enough to get you there.
23:49Even that might call for Arizona to not only lose to the 49ers, but at least lose two other
23:54division games.
23:55Sure, Seattle.
23:56They play Seattle twice.
23:57And LA, right?
23:58They've got one more with the Rams.
23:59But they're off to a 2-0 start and one of them is against you.
24:02So the tiebreaker, that's part of this conversation.
24:04The tiebreaker edges right now are not in the 49ers' favor.