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00:00you just do the show no I was trying to find out how much time we had I couldn't
00:04get their attention and then of course they said you're on this is a little
00:08bit too behind the curtain yeah no the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain and it
00:12gets super awkward I'm gonna give you another behind the
00:15people are driving around it's Thursday we're getting close to the end of the
00:17week tomorrow we'll do this okay we do the day early dibs to pay yeah I love
00:32that yeah I just want to apologize for not being ready for the beginning of
00:36this tiny it's all right you didn't incur Evan's wrath so Evan's wrath yes
00:43is there a rat there's a rat there's a raven oh boy a rat like a ralph you
00:50hey he's a rat zero to a hundred if you want to talk about Mount Rathmore as far
00:56as this station or these people I live it four hours a day it's only hours a
01:01week he's a troll oh there's no wrath he loves you and you know that good who
01:06you know him he loves you there's no wrath
01:11Wow Mount Rathmore shout out Tom Rathman sure he's on there
01:17Mount Rathmore I don't think that I mean I might be the closest thing to it on a
01:22wrath although was wrath one of the seven deadly sins in that movie seven
01:27right where all those people got killed no I didn't see exactly what you're
01:31doing right now eating gluttony oh that's right ice cream yeah you might
01:38make the movie right now which is that there was an ice cream social and I
01:48skipped it and went in and got the leftovers I like that you damn right
01:51that's a classic scoop and score both correct in regard to wrath by the way as
01:57far as Evans wrath yeah he got no wrath I mean I think that Evan is a guy who
02:03cares about the product and he wants to help people and direct talent into the
02:07right direction yeah so anyway we started with by the sound the one my
02:15favorite CMAQ sound oh I'm not a player yesterday cuz I listened to their show
02:20oh we got beef with you guys hold on I got beef with you let's go I got beef
02:27with you and your co-host somebody from the Stiney and Guru show left a notepad
02:33around and we got jacked for a segment we believe was it graph paper the Brock
02:42stock we felt like that was ours it's not who did Brock stock you guys know
02:47what did Brocksters millions correct yeah and if you want to ask Matt Hagan
02:51that came up in a meeting all month ago different I got a thousand dollars says
02:59you stole that from us if you think I've ever looked at a notepad during a
03:07show because you were loud just cuz he said he left a notebook in here and if
03:14you did I didn't look at it I'm looking at dibs in the eye yeah and my phone we
03:22have so many things I'm looking at during my show any notes in front of you
03:26look at me back me up I was bringing this up like yeah and now you're like I
03:33got reads I got a phone I got readers you know I got a laptop
03:39you're a pro entertainer call I get it now right he doesn't have notes no his
03:44notes are a seven minute preamble to get to his point it's an extemporaneous
03:50piece his notes are his own process as he meanders toward what we're trying to
04:00do Willard 24-7 yes there are no lines like your notes and I love your notes
04:06and I want to go back to 2012 in the lucky break contest where I took a
04:10picture of the end bring me up to tyranny that hurt whatever we were doing
04:15business it was Jets week but and plus I lost the contest I can't remember who
04:21I had Rudy Ortiz or somebody let me down I can't remember yeah that's right
04:26Willard he was your notes are historic like Steini will go graph paper 28
04:33things in 17 different colors you'll go on the back of a napkin or an envelope
04:38like a ghetto bursts and I love it about that we were in the office having
04:45a meeting oh boy and standing up look at my notes to the boss and like if there
04:50was an Apple reward for look at my notes look at my note yeah to the boss and the
04:55bow in mr. McGillicuddy's yard and I go out of here look at my notes he said he
05:02want to find me now because he's been on me about my prep the boss really oh
05:10now you feel good about that I hear that really lightweight I'm hurt yeah it's
05:19daddy please so I need to do more shut out Sonny and share right there that was
05:23a tough share play the McCaffrey sound I won't do it it came from us you want to
05:30he stole it from us did they played it yesterday at 205 later let's go back to
05:38how often you listen to our show I'm interested in I'm a people listen to it
05:41I listen the morning and these guys why I listen to you guys and you both kind
05:45of threw me under the bus so I'm a little bit frustrated at you know what
05:49goes on between 10 and 2 where you guys home priest yeah oh yeah tell dibs what
05:55he didn't realize pull the Willard I wish we had the sound he said Kosel was
06:02trying to explain something to you too but he thinks it went over your guys's
06:06head like you do us like I do you guys try to say but anyway circle Wow he
06:13played the sound and didn't back it up he gave perdy his flower that's what we've
06:17been talking about all day no but what priest said what went over I want to
06:21said that Greg Kosel who joins us every day after games but what was it that
06:28Greg was telling us without telling us that Brock Purdy is a system quarterback
06:32and that was not the case after his role but that you guys know couldn't pick up
06:37on it because right because that's not what was happening after we heard this
06:43priest I know you're listening and I love you you're a phenomenal caller but
06:47I heard the sound I go you're right I know what Greg would say if we had said
06:52that and he would say dibs go ahead and get the line all I know you're gonna say
06:56the same thing quarterback is a system quarterback then you're probably not
07:01very good at this system is failing exactly nobody is someone great uncle
07:07Howard by someone arguing that Brock and Kyle are not like a perfect marriage no
07:11so like why I don't know what's so hard for people to understand what they're
07:16doing let me help brother is bothering me he is a production of Kyle the same
07:21way that Kyle is a production of Brock but what you're missing I believe you're
07:25missing oh they're starting to take the credit that Brock has earned and put it
07:30at the doorstep of Kyle yeah and there's nothing wrong with that when you're
07:34right now I think because the payday is imminent for Brock right oh he's only
07:42doing another guy and I'm like that's a right you're you're right I'm being real
07:46you're right I believe Brock it's now I know I think I can get you to not be
07:51bothered by it because I've already I'm right I've done a lot of therapy on this
07:55now go okay and I've got myself a spot where it doesn't bother me anymore you
08:00have to accept that this is just how it's gonna be and yes I've told dibs
08:05this yes even after he wins a Super Bowl it still won't go away I promise
08:13you you're gonna start hearing oh but Nick Foles and Joe Flacco and Brad
08:17Johnson you're gonna hear all of that simply because of the process that
08:22brought Brock here the reason yes and the reason this is a big topic this week
08:28is because Kristen didn't play and and and so many people yeah so many people
08:32been cruising around for four months if not years oh what would happen if you
08:38ever play without Christian he went out there with half an IUK we were there no
08:43Christian and still busted 30 on supposedly the number two defense in
08:47football and so now you gotta come up with something else
08:5130 Kyle busted him for thank you thank you let him up and down the field it
08:57wasn't his best performance he wasn't bad by far I'm the he got the win
09:00outside of the team I'm the king of hypotheticals tell them what you've been
09:05saying on this is one where look we all like Brock Purdy Brock Purdy thank you I
09:13needed it but so bad you want I guarantee you you don't really want to
09:19put your money where your mouth is and here's what I mean okay here's what I
09:24mean you won't come at Willard what I'm coming at him right here eating ice
09:32cream on the air if such a proud party let's say he's in line to make 60
09:37million just say it with your chest yes thank you and 49ers have a season they
09:42go 11 and 6 and get there again don't make it mm-hmm but he's 60 million then
09:48now we're going to do the offseason yeah the day after the playoffs are over Kyle
09:53Shanahan says you know what I've just got offered my dream job at the
09:58University of Texas my alma mater I'm leaving the 49ers I'm not going to be
10:04their coach next year you still giving Brock 60 mm-hmm yeah
10:11isn't that too fantasy land especially because Texas is humming the point the
10:19point and I'm and I'm and I'm elevating protégés like that's that's that's
10:24what I would do in that situation are you asking me would they get worse yeah
10:27they'd get worse the same way get worse that's what he's talking about Brock to
10:31a degree but how desperate is that to go to that measure but but so many of you
10:36so many of you will go but my homes wouldn't get worse if read left do you
10:39know that do you know that Patrick got worse last year well my point is with me
10:44Daniel is he not better with me Daniel than he was with Brian
10:49what did Kurt Warner look like when he was in New York Giant look like a big
10:53pile of crap well he's in the Hall of Fame so I'm just saying when we talk
10:57about it's Garoppolo Kyle thank you that was bad examples are everywhere what was
11:03Steve Young at every point of his career not Niners related la express if pretty
11:07good with the I think Patrick my homes would get the same amount of money
11:12without Andy Reid I think well now he would right I'm making it more about
11:17money I I'm more about like what's your because I think your money is is tied to
11:22your output the idea is do you pay him because you're worried he's gonna turn
11:26into a pumpkin not necessarily a pump I don't think the fans are gonna treat him
11:30different once he puts his John Hancock on that 50 to 60 million dollars right
11:34the same way that I heard you think Brock's gonna count oh my god hardest
11:39part is over to me for Brock maybe but that's the way it works I already told
11:43everybody what it sounded like in the stands when Brandon I you dropped the
11:46ball in the end zone no that wasn't kind and that's the deal you want your
11:5130 million and everybody will like Brandon is not crying in front of a
11:55mirror right now in the corner of his room he's got a bajillion dollars we
11:59would all make this trade but when you take it you get treated differently
12:02think about Nick Bosa and I heard you earlier Steini talk about only 10 sacks
12:06and it just struck me because I thought about 10 sacks and if you get 10 sacks
12:11for 10 years you're a Hall of Famer but because of his contract you can say
12:15things like only 10 sacks DPO why the year before if he was making 7.4 and he
12:24had 10 sacks you'd be thinking dude 10 sacks if Daniel Jones's salary was 12
12:30million the New York fans last week just go home but they waited outside the
12:35locker room to boo him and scream at him because he makes 40 million oh that's
12:39New York and we were talking it is but that's just I mean they're down on deck
12:44in Dallas not every seat but it's it's a course how do you get that money and
12:48the era is a failure eight years worth and he was what second in the MVP babe
12:53like second in the MVP vote and and down with five in the playoff I get it I'm
12:59sure Packer fans are down on Jordan love no style weak ligaments oh listen in the
13:0595 second the game KGM ZFM and hd1 San Francisco always live in the free
13:10odyssey app twitch and YouTube powered by first NorCal credit see what I did
13:14there was create a moment of either hilarity or absolute stupidity to give
13:19him room to do the legal what's a difference between and you're welcome
13:23standing finances in this conversation this is how we started this output and
13:27money what's the difference between dr. Prescott and Lamar Jackson there's no
13:31they're both failures and but but doesn't it feel doesn't it feel like an
13:37okay but hold us tiny I know why that just hit you in the face so hold on but
13:43but like laugh wins for both you don't you feel like Dak gets a lot of
13:50questions about the contract and Lamar does not nobody I don't feel like I
13:55don't live in Baltimore Wow I don't feel like anyone in Baltimore is like
13:59shouldn't have done that dudes two and four in the playoffs but in Dallas dudes
14:03two and five in the playoffs we shouldn't have given him six yeah and
14:06this is the second time for them I get it he single-handedly has been it is
14:11worse in the postseason so Stiney goes what about the 36 wins the last three
14:15years Lamar so you know what I'm not mad at that but if your tip what is your
14:18goal if it's to win a championship deck you start over and maybe that's seven
14:23wins but you don't put a ring on somebody's finger that you know is going
14:27to cheat on you who's going to be their quarterback next year it could have been
14:31Cooper Rush and you could have used all those resources to not just around your
14:35I'm just saying you won 12 games 12 games 12 games real quick you what I
14:40don't like guys is paying a quarterback because oh we don't know what we have
14:45behind them that's like not getting out of a relationship because you're afraid
14:49to go start over you don't start over when you've got an owner who is 144
14:55years old or however old he is he's not interested in a two to three like
14:59rebuild and it took so long to get that he had to he was backed into it he
15:04wanted his heart wasn't in it he had to do it he did it because he wanted to do
15:09it and he realizes that Dak Prescott is the 14th best quarterback in the regular
15:15season what was the final score 12 Cowboys Packer game what was the final
15:20score I bet you remember 441 to like 27 they made it they put lipstick on a pig
15:25I know they put lipstick on a pig but I again if we're comparing
15:29and Lamar Dak lost in the first round as to the low as the two seed at home in a
15:38game where his defense was melted butter and so was he he threw a pick six to get
15:43down 21 nothing no no no one's forgetting that Lamar as the one seed
15:49had the Chiefs come to town and I don't need a raggedy office and they didn't
15:54even score 20 right so who had who had the bigger playoff failure I think Dak to
15:59me but is that because your account is Dak Lamar the game was in bat like
16:04Lamar was expected to make it to halftime the game was over Lamar was
16:09the MVP but that game went down to the fourth quarter that game went to the
16:13fourth quarter even though we had a bad game and it was a bad game plan and they
16:16tried to pass instead of run that game was in the balance you didn't know who
16:20was gonna win it Green Bay won that game by the second quarter that's fair I
16:24would I would argue it's pretty similar where you're talking about phenomenal
16:30regular seasons followed by the majority of the time when you get to the end you
16:37you don't win and and both of them are phenomenal statistically and Lamar by
16:43the way Lamar beat good teams all year last year miss me with those MVP 49ers
16:48Dak never beat a good team last year what are you doing in the postseason and
16:53that's why Brock's record already in the post oh he's got a good team nah he's
16:58faced the music and the Super Bowl he did not wet the bed wasn't his best game
17:03but he put him in position to win the game I think everybody's disagreeing
17:08with you it feels like it it just I mean the bar of winning the Super Bowl is so
17:16unfair and so high I do believe it's 34 quarterbacks have ever won a Super Bowl
17:21and so when you think about everyone else and we did this yesterday like
17:25current QBs in the league who've won a bowl of course Patrick he's got by like
17:30seven or eight I can't even keep track anymore Russell Wilson he's got when
17:34he's washed Joe Flacco's a backup he's got one he's beyond washed Matthew
17:39Stafford is not totally washed but the washing machine is open and he's
17:44starting to put his he's effing good he's not getting another one I'm not
17:50ready to say Dak Prescott I'll never win a Super Bowl my point is that the people
17:56who have done it already there's Mahomes and then there's a bunch of guys who
17:59probably won't win another one so but a third contract making 243 guaranteed has
18:06not even been to a championship game Willard I get that that's frustrating
18:10but I guess and I don't know if there gets Dallas I don't know if you guys
18:13are saying this is but this is what I'm saying and NFL teams end up in a spot
18:17where you don't have a choice and I know that I know that we know that can be
18:21frustrating but there's no doubt in my mind that Dallas should pay Dak because
18:26that is definitely the better option for them may not be a great option I
18:30understand where you're coming from but their next option is not a good one and
18:35and that's why I say what I say about Brock when you find a quarterback in the
18:38NFL even if he's not the best don't mess with it man I always use the Bears
18:43as an example 60 we're sitting around here all of us have already were well
18:48past our 45th birthdays at least and not a one of us has ever seen a well
18:52quarterback year for the Chicago Bears in our lives in our lives well Stiney
18:58and I remember back in the 70s and sometimes there yeah I'm a man you
19:03wait for snappers to have no idea so the reason I don't know if you saw Mike
19:09Sandoz story in the athletic oh yeah it's a great story one of the one from a
19:13couple weeks ago no this is a new one I'm saying so he's fresh and oh he's
19:17been doing these he's been doing these rankings for years now tears the tears
19:22but it comes through executives right right it's not his opinion so what he
19:26found is between 14 2014 and 2022 there was only one third tier guy who got paid
19:35Kirk Cousins in the last two years for tier three quarterbacks at least
19:42according this list got paid can I guess them well you know yeah what Tyler I
19:48don't think it was to uh to is a tier three guy it was I'm not a tier two guy
19:54I don't think he's tier one Trevor Lawrence was tier three okay that I
20:00understand has to be Jordan love Daniel Oh Daniel Jones absolutely and you know
20:07it was not like equitable it's a pyramid yeah whoever qualified it was
20:14mostly about how what quarterbacks occupy at least 15% of their team's
20:21salary cap okay and what he's found is more and more non elite quarterbacks are
20:28occupying that kind of cap space because of what you guys just said and we did
20:32the whole show on it teams are scared to start over or try to but I'm just like
20:38just real quick eight years of deck wouldn't you just say you know what
20:41maybe if it's not about selling tickets in the Jerry experience I really to my
20:46core believe he'll never in the biggest moments he'll be exposed you can trick
20:51him on defense okay maybe why would you because you don't have something you
20:56think is is sufficient behind him you go give him all this money when you know it
21:03what I can hear him saying you don't know you don't know and he's like he
21:08leads your team into the playoffs and the thinking is that maybe this time
21:12it'll be different and I think about marriage and we've all been married
21:15some of us you know multiple times and that's all great and you got a marriage
21:20that's a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10 and it's a good marriage it's a 7 and you
21:25think you know what I want to go out there and I want a 9 marriage I want to
21:28get a 9 yeah so you give up the 7 and you go out and you get try to get the
21:329 and then you hunt for it and you wind up with a 6 or a 5 or maybe you wind up
21:38with the 2 and you're like oh man I missed that 7 and so that's kind of
21:42where NFL teams are Dak Prescott's probably a 7 out of 10 is he good enough
21:46to win the whole thing so far no and is he great in the playoffs so far no
21:51regular season he's awesome and you're almost always in the playoffs so do you
21:56want to give up your 7 to try to get the 9 well and the Niners did this by the
22:00way and I'd argue that Jimmy wasn't necessarily equal to Dak by any stretch
22:03but the night he was a sick but and they paid him and they got a 1 no and but
22:07then they yeah they got rid of him because oh we can go reboot this thing
22:10and they lucked out yes yes they get credit like a blank out the bleep out
22:17that they didn't absolutely have the like literally the kill shot disaster
22:23like that that could have gotten that could have gotten everybody fine oh
22:26you're right you're right I could have gotten everybody fired if it weren't for
22:29a seventh round flyer that has turned into a star I just feel like you know
22:35you want to pull the plug on a guy then you know you could have pulled the plug
22:39on John Elway who didn't win till late in his career Andy Reid couldn't win it
22:44until he won it Matthew Stafford you know they did pull the plug on Andy Reid
22:49which is the interesting part about it Philly was like oh yeah 13 years we're
22:54good you can't do it and then Kansas City was a scoop there was times in
23:06Carmelo Anthony's year career where he was trying to battle LeBron and he was
23:11in Denver going to the West and you thought he might do it but then we
23:15realized Carmelo Anthony will never be an NBA champion I think I'm speaking for
23:20a lot of people that's how I feel about that you you know when you see it that's
23:24Hey enjoy your contract it's all good like I mean Brock has won in the offs three
23:29years into his baby career and Lamar, Dak, Josh Allen five-and-five and every
23:35year Josh Allen. But you're not giving him credit for having gotten to the playoffs six of eight years
23:41When you're the big boys. When Brock Purdy gets to the playoffs six of
23:45eight years like those guys then he might have bleeding he might not get to your NBA
23:51NBA comp, though, that's a good one.
23:53Like, how many NBA ones can you think of right now
23:58that have never won a title, and quite frankly,
24:01we've accepted they're probably never going to.
24:03James Harden.
24:04Yeah, Harden.
24:05Wow.
24:06And Bede.
24:07How many ones.
24:08I don't put in Bede in there yet.
24:09Yeah, yeah.
24:10Okay, but you put Jack in there.
24:12You know what I mean?
24:13Wow.
24:13But NBA teams will still.
24:14Jimmy Buckets?
24:15They'll still sign up for that dude,
24:18because it's about relevance, and you mentioned Jerry Jones.
24:21That's what Stiney has not said, but his relevance.
24:24There's no way you're ever going to take this
24:26out of Jerry Jones.
24:27He will choose the attention.
24:29At his age.
24:29Every single time.
24:30No doubt.
24:31And that's why he gave him the contract
24:32right before kickoff of week one.
24:34Just one more thing.
24:36I'm just kidding, Stiney, because, you know.
24:37It's fine.
24:38The bag is on the shoulder.
24:39Ask him what he shot yesterday.
24:41It was windy.
24:41I saw it.
24:42Oh, god.
24:43Did you post it?
24:44I don't know if I saw it on the group chat.
24:4693, I posted it.
24:47Oh, yeah?
24:48Yeah, it was windy.
24:48Bad day?
24:50No, it was windy.
24:51Windy.
24:52In my mouth.
24:53It was windy.
24:53In my world, 93, is that?
24:56On 95 cent.
24:57It's a bad day.
24:57It's okay.
24:58The game.