👉 En una entrevista con Alerta 24/7, Yamil Castro Bianchi, discute su reciente incorporación al equipo de defensa del acusado Nicolás Soria, conocido por los medios como "El Americano", uno de los detenidos en el caso por la sustracción de Loan Danilo Peña en Corrientes,. Castro Bianchi menciona las interacciones de Soria con otros actores involucrados en el caso y menciona los planes que tenía para investigar la triple frontera.
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00:00Communication now with Yamil Castrovianchi, how are you Yamil, Diego, Nahuel and Carlitos for Alerta 24 7, how are you?
00:10Very well, good afternoon everyone and thank you for the space.
00:13Well, the first question is, why is this change of lawyer and how did you get to the American, to Nicolas Soria?
00:23Well, first of all, I would like to rescue something that Nahuel said that I found very interesting, this of keeping alive the figure of Lohan and the search, in whatever way.
00:35Because I came to the American through a friend who comes and asks me if I could join the defense of the American, Nicolas.
00:44And I told him that there was no problem, but that before I wanted to see some documentation to make sure who is defending who.
00:51And then make a deal with the American.
00:54You are one of those who defend innocents, because there are criminal lawyers who in sensitive cases, such as the disappearance of a minor, only take defense if they are convinced of the innocence of their client.
01:10Abstracting from the American, do you defend innocents in sensitive cases or do you consider that every person has the right to a defense?
01:19I believe that both are not excluded. One not only considers that all people have the right to defend in court, because it is guaranteed by the Constitution.
01:28But if my client had something to do with the disappearance of Lohan, I would have hung up the phone.
01:35It was the first thing I wanted to verify. And I dare to go a little further in terms of questions.
01:43But my client told me, look, if they have to give me 12 years and they bring Lohan to me tomorrow, I sign, I have no problem.
01:51What did Nahuel look for? He greets you, Jamil.
01:55How are you Nahuel?
01:56Good. What did he look for then, with the arrival on July 9?
02:02Look, it's something I asked him because it was what caught my attention too.
02:06And forgive me for expressing myself like this in front of the audience. I tell him, well, monster, what do you have to do in Corrientes? What did he give you for that?
02:13And the answer he gives me, let's see, is a person who comes from abroad with some money.
02:19There was a fever, if you will, in the media and in society for finding this creature.
02:25And the kid went there and put his face.
02:27What catches my attention about all this, maybe you can correct me in this deduction,
02:33is that the press was bothering a lot in Corrientes, people were bothering a lot in Corrientes.
02:39And after what happens, the American and the detention of people who were collaborating or not, put the title you want.
02:46I'm going to respect all the hypotheses.
02:48Coincidentally, the means of being stop appearing.
02:51That's why, Nahuel, I highlight you a lot.
02:53We can be with the same or with hypotheses found on the case.
02:57But let's keep talking.
02:59It's the most important thing, because it's going to put the focus on justice and on this creature appearing.
03:04I want to add that my client, at the time, was very clear that he had a clue of where Loan was.
03:11And when I asked him if it was the body, he told me, no, no, I didn't tell you about the body.
03:15I told you where Loan was.
03:17And this arises, and I hope that justice can find it, from the recordings that someone causes.
03:23Because there are people who went to collaborate.
03:25Now, within this collaboration, I understand that there were people who took advantage of it.
03:30And what do I mean by that?
03:32This was a kid, if we have to put a surname in the neighborhood, a nickname, we would say Paganini.
03:37Because he was going there and he had this interest in the search, right?
03:41And it turns out that there were other people with other kinds of interests, where they asked him, well, tomorrow this witness is going to testify here.
03:48Why don't you accompany her?
03:50And all these issues were negatively valued towards Nicolás.
03:55And for you to get an idea, there they accuse him of having tried to make a search with a blank sheet.
04:04I mean, it's ridiculous.
04:05A person who has relatives in Cana and in Libertad for drug trafficking, who had his problems with the law,
04:11and says, a person came to me with a blank sheet.
04:14Are we all crazy?
04:16What is the issue here with this?
04:19Yes, yes, finish.
04:21And then there is another person who says that he was supplied with narcotics,
04:26where, I insist, there is a lot, but a lot of evidence that tells, I'm going to call it that,
04:32the American, to debunk this accusation.
04:34So much so that when he was filling a home, he was in a prosecutor's office accompanying a witness.
04:40Well, we received a lot of audios a few months ago, we showed them on this program,
04:46where Nicolás Soria was supposedly heard, we had him checked periodically.
04:51These audios, logically, were provided, and justice has them.
04:55Offering narcotics to a third party.
05:00I understand that one of the accusations has to do with, precisely, the supply of narcotics.
05:06It is a crime that is typified in the criminal code.
05:10But today we received an exclusive audio too, with a person named Camballo.
05:18I propose, Samir, we listen to an exclusive audio, one more after six months,
05:24in this case, of the American with a person with the last name Camballo,
05:29who would be someone who would provide information, privileged to the American, to act in the cause.
05:36We listen to it, and I would like to know your opinion. Go ahead.
05:40Yes.
05:41Let me.
05:42You can tell him.
05:43Let me.
05:44Listen.
05:45Because your car is burned.
05:46You know what?
05:47We're burning you.
05:48I'm telling you.
05:49I know.
05:50I'm telling you.
05:51I'm telling you.
05:52You know what?
05:53There's a lawyer behind you.
05:54Who?
05:55Orlando?
05:56I don't know who he is.
05:57Méndez?
05:58I don't know who the fuck he is.
05:59He looks like him.
06:00He looks like him.
06:01He's from the Alon family.
06:02No, he's not from the Alon family.
06:03He's from all the same.
06:04Ah, I know.
06:05From the heavy people.
06:06Yes.
06:07Yes.
06:08What's his name?
06:09Hey, what's his name?
06:10What's his name?
06:11Well...
06:12We're talking to each other.
06:13You know what?
06:14Go and shave.
06:15Because your face was all over the news.
06:18I know.
06:19Good.
06:20Go and shave.
06:21Listen.
06:22Go and change your car.
06:23Rent a car.
06:24No.
06:25Yes.
06:26I have to tell you on Monday, Cubano.
06:28Well, listen, change a car.
06:31Rent a car.
06:33OK.
06:34I want to know where you're getting the money.
06:37I told you today in the news, right?
06:39With a covered face.
06:43Well, attentive with the phrase.
06:45It's this guy, Camballo.
06:47I don't know if he declared or not.
06:50The audio is new.
06:51Telling him, there is a lawyer behind you.
06:54The American asks again.
06:56He's making fun of the answer of no.
06:58It's Mendes, no.
06:59Did you ask him who it is?
07:02And what is the relevance, right?
07:04Of this conversation, of this character, Camballo or Yamil?
07:08Well, let's see.
07:10Here, what my client did was get into a drug trafficking network.
07:14Trying to dispel one of the hypotheses that there was.
07:18That Lohan had been a victim of this network.
07:21For any of the hypotheses of punishment.
07:23For an unfulfilled shipment.
07:25For a business.
07:27He begins to accompany one of the witnesses.
07:30To make a statement.
07:32And a policeman asks him to identify himself.
07:34He gives him a driver's license.
07:36This policeman takes out a photo.
07:38Which was later shared.
07:40Both with the media.
07:42As with the ordinary people.
07:44And that's where this figure of the American begins to emerge.
07:49Where he was a person who was bothering.
07:52Why did he bother?
07:53Because when someone was going to report.
07:55Look, it happens to me that I have information about Lohan.
07:58The lady behind is my sister-in-law.
08:00I have my brother-in-law arrested for drug trafficking.
08:03I want to report.
08:05And they urge her not to report.
08:08But don't go and talk to him.
08:10The American is what they said.
08:12Look, he's making the complaint.
08:14Please listen to it and eradicate it.
08:16And then he went to withdraw a number.
08:18To carry out a follow-up complaint.
08:20Clearly there was no police containment.
08:22And someone who demanded minimal rights.
08:24That they should respect.
08:26It generated some annoyance.
08:28This Camballo.
08:30As it appears in the cause.
08:32It is a person who has several versions.
08:34My client has said at times.
08:36I don't want to be a toad.
08:38I don't want to declare.
08:40Another journalist will have told him.
08:42This is the American.
08:44I take out a guide.
08:46And I'm stretching it to where Lohan is.
08:48Then before the judge.
08:50We have a third version.
08:52I'm a poor addict.
08:54And this person took advantage of me.
08:56It was completely denied by Nicolás.
08:58In fact, it was one of the points.
09:00Where I told him that I wanted.
09:02Explanations of the case.
09:04And the truth is that I did not find.
09:06Absolutely nothing.
09:08Nor did I find that version.
09:10He would have provided.
09:12He would have given.
09:14And the reality is that.
09:16We have a person who leaves the court.
09:18For a drug rehabilitation.
09:20With a bracelet.
09:22And he continues to drug himself.
09:24I want to start.
09:26With all the respect in the world.
09:28And the great lawyer you are Yamil.
09:30I know you from other causes.
09:32I see a lot of things.
09:34And I understand your work.
09:36Your defense.
09:38You have to defend.
09:40And for that they pay you.
09:42First.
09:44I dare to say.
09:46With humility.
09:48You have more information than me.
09:50Because I'm just getting into this case.
09:52Without a doubt.
09:54Without a doubt.
09:56First.
09:58Your client is one of those who said.
10:00That he was going to initiate legal actions.
10:02To show who he was.
10:04As if it were.
10:06Of a service.
10:08What I said the first day.
10:10It is not the service or intelligence of anyone.
10:12In fact.
10:14I do not think he has intelligence.
10:16That problem.
10:18That he got into a place.
10:20I do not have the slightest doubt.
10:22Out there is an influential guy.
10:24And they made him work for someone.
10:26That I will tell you in private.
10:28That yes.
10:30And I am a specialist.
10:32In the world of drug trafficking.
10:34In drug trafficking investigations.
10:36El Cabeza López is not a drug dealer.
10:38Yes.
10:40Yes.
10:42But you were.
10:44And you know the world of drug trafficking.
10:46I do not see it.
10:48I do not know.
10:50The crazy Cesar.
10:52I don't see Mameluco Villalba.
10:54I do not see Guise Cantero.
10:56I don't see Alvarado.
10:58I don't see.
11:00A lot of us here in Argentina.
11:02In fact.
11:04I spoke.
11:06By phone to the air.
11:08With El Cabeza López.
11:10In this show.
11:12And the guy was throwing the month.
11:14He told you.
11:16Justice will tell you whether you had it or not.
11:20What I also understand is that the protected witness...
11:24The protected witness...
11:28I don't know if she's a witness.
11:30I, personally, Nahuel, not justice, not my colleagues,
11:33Nahuel.
11:35Even more so when you have access
11:39to people who are still taking care of her today,
11:43which is a call to attention to the gendarmerie.
11:45Guys, they're putting a guard
11:47to take care of a person in a plastic cage.
11:51That is, if you want to kill the gendarmes,
11:54it's ten minutes, yes?
11:56It's like that.
11:56But look, you can see what happens at night,
11:58at dawn, in that house, huh?
12:02So, attention to justice.
12:04Things happen at dawn in that house.
12:07She wouldn't be so scared.
12:10So scared.
12:12But, well, beyond that.
12:14And the ladies, who said they were in that place,
12:17they had it hidden.
12:20And it seems to me that all that was a great invention,
12:23a great invention of a lot of people
12:25to keep buying time so that Lohan never appears again.
12:29That's what I can recriminate the American.
12:32Maybe used or not, I don't know,
12:35and he's going to have to prove it before justice.
12:38Because they hindered so many things
12:41and a lot of time was lost to find the kid.
12:44Or to make other people leave.
12:46That would be the question I would ask the American, Yamil.
12:51Well, I would love for all those questions
12:54to be answered using the truth device
12:57that they had a few minutes before he entered.
12:59And I assure you that he is very anxious,
13:02but I can dare to answer some of them.
13:04Because I can tell you that in everything you said,
13:07I agree with everything.
13:09Everything.
13:10Except in the last part,
13:12in a kind of cover-up to third parties
13:15or in this of hindering the investigation.
13:18If there is a single written from the American in the trial
13:23that has generated a new way of hypothesis,
13:26well, there you can check it out.
13:28Now, he sent an email
13:30making himself available and they answered,
13:32received, thank you very much.
13:33So when you talk about hindering,
13:35well, and this is precisely what it is,
13:38Now, when it is a person who accompanies the witnesses,
13:40who is present.
13:42That's why I'm starting to investigate
13:44and sniff here the degree of influence
13:47on certain people so that you do something
13:49that you think you are doing of your own free will,
13:52but behind there is another planning,
13:54there are other interests.
13:56Because the truth is that it does not seem to me,
13:57and I agree with everything you've been saying,
13:59it does not seem to me a guy who goes with a mentality
14:02to generate evil.
14:03I think he got into a place
14:05where he also served as a spy, I insist.
14:09And think, after the detention of the American,
14:12all the mainstream media flew.
14:13But Yamil, Carlos, I greet you, Carlos Estrena,
14:17but Yamil, is he going for his own motive
14:19or because someone told him to go?
14:21For this very thing that you just said,
14:23that there may be influential people,
14:25that someone may be handling it from behind.
14:29Is he absolutely responsible for his actions
14:32or did he respond to someone?
14:34Well, he goes for his own motive.
14:36He arrives at the place, begins to do his investigations.
14:39You could even compare it to what the press was doing
14:43at that time, of going to knock on a door,
14:44you saw it in Loan.
14:46That work later became a dialogue table
14:51where there were other organizations,
14:52be it Alameda, be it this organization of Dupuy.
14:57Let's say, dialogue tables where hypotheses were shared,
15:01where they said what to do or what not to do.
15:04But Yamil, you understand that you are comparing
15:06what Soria did with the press.
15:09We played a role in society.
15:12If we are not praising the expert who went because he called her,
15:17you know that no one can intervene
15:18in a judicial investigation if it is not summoned
15:20by justice, and in this case by federal justice.
15:24Go, get in, because for some reason you end up arrested later.
15:27For some reason you end up arrested later.
15:29I feel at that point, in fact, I would ask you
15:32where you can get a journalist's registration
15:35if there is a journalism discipline court.
15:37I believe that anyone can do it.
15:40In this case, you could answer me that my client
15:42was not communicating any news about it.
15:46I agree that for being there and for doing what he did,
15:49his freedom is private.
15:51What happens is that they are using it as an expiatory tool.
15:53But why is there no private journalist
15:55of his freedom then?
15:57I believe that the bullets passed him close
15:59if I have to use a colloquial language.
16:02Could you have arrested a journalist?
16:04Yes, for me, my client is in prison.
16:08The press can leave.
16:09What they did was to throw rails.
16:11I understand.
16:12Listen to this theory, it's good.
16:14I'm going to go deeper.
16:16Sorry, Carlos.
16:17No, no, finish, finish.
16:18I understand perfectly what you are saying.
16:20It's not that I'm praising him,
16:21but I understand the hypothesis perfectly.
16:23We put 10 perejiles in prison.
16:25I'm not saying that they are.
16:27There may be an order.
16:29We put 10 perejiles in prison
16:30so that those who do not have the courage to go ahead
16:32can raise their foot from the accelerator
16:34and that this is settled.
16:36Now, there is no detainee journalist.
16:38The people who were from Lucio Dupuy
16:40and who named the foundation all truchos,
16:42it was proven that they were truchos
16:44and before the justice they ended up saying
16:46we have nothing to do with Lucio Dupuy.
16:48I can understand that the goal is to silence the press
16:50or to silence the pressure of public opinion.
16:52But it's not that I'm praising him.
16:54I understand perfectly what you are saying.
16:56We put 10 perejiles in prison.
16:58There is no detainee journalist
17:00because we all went to work
17:02and it was proven,
17:04and it can be proven,
17:06that we had an aval to be in the place.
17:08Not like that, Soria,
17:10people who falsely named the Dupuy Foundation.
17:16Well, in this regard,
17:18you and, sorry,
17:20colloquial language is used a lot,
17:22but it's better to understand.
17:24I like that.
17:26I like the colloquial language
17:28so that everyone can understand.
17:30Yes, of course.
17:32And here no one takes anything personal.
17:34Can you imagine the fine
17:36that the judge would have to pay
17:38for putting a journalist in prison?
17:40Yes, it's true.
17:42No judge wants to pay.
17:44And let's think about the amount of jury
17:46that the judges have initiated
17:48or denounced in the Council of the Magistrate.
17:50Let's say, it's a very delicate issue.
17:52I can't put a journalist in prison
17:54because, I don't know,
17:56behind the camera,
17:58you can see that he is influencing
18:00in a note, he will say,
18:02well, look, it's a critical role,
18:04a staging, whatever we want.
18:06But I'm going to say that Soria
18:08can be put in prison
18:10for pressure, nothing more.
18:12And because he has no back.
18:14Because he has no back.
18:16Because notice that Soria...
18:18I understand that perfectly.
18:20Because this barrier,
18:23I don't believe in journalism,
18:25I insist, because I didn't warn anything about this.
18:27In fact, there are many good faith issues
18:29of contact of journalists with Soria
18:31exchanging information.
18:33Look, they tell me that here,
18:35why don't you talk to such and such?
18:37That has existed, I insist.
18:39If I had any audio
18:41where Soria says,
18:43look, you know what?
18:45I'm going to divert the investigation here.
18:47Or something objective.
18:49What I have are theories
18:51with another impetus.
18:53I get to the point myself.
18:55I mean, I think that in the whole talk I tell him,
18:57hey, keep going, brother.
18:59You didn't have anything else to do.
19:01And the truth is,
19:03I don't think it's like that,
19:05but hey, he tells me,
19:07why don't you have a heart?
19:09And I was worried about something
19:11that was happening.
19:13I think, Shamil,
19:15and I have to be honest,
19:17I don't think it went from the heart.
19:19But I'm going to give you the right to something.
19:21And I hope you can answer it,
19:23and if not, ask the question.
19:25Because there is something
19:27that nobody wanted to touch,
19:29it's taboo, it's taboo.
19:31And since it's not taboo,
19:33at this point in the year,
19:35it's starting to run out of filters,
19:37it's a problem.
19:39Up there, you don't know in detail
19:41what this kid is going to say.
19:43But I have understood, for example,
19:45that if Soria would say,
19:47to the amount of journalists
19:49who left her envelopes with dollars
19:51in the rooms,
19:53if that's true,
19:55the journalists would have to give explanations too.
19:57Do you know anything about that?
19:59No, I don't know anything at all,
20:01but I can get you the information.
20:03I don't know the smallest detail.
20:05In fact, regarding
20:07economic issues,
20:09she told me about
20:11a collaborative issue
20:13of buying a stove.
20:15There was no relevance.
20:17But it would be a point
20:19to investigate.
20:21A journalist who says
20:23he received money,
20:25what was the hypothesis?
20:27For me, it's the journalist's crime
20:29to receive some gift
20:31for whatever,
20:33to say something, to deviate,
20:35or whatever.
20:37I'm more worried.
20:39I don't think so,
20:41because if he was paying,
20:43there were many who were scared.
20:45Yes, yes, yes.
20:47There were many who were scared.
20:49Well, the issue is the degree of commitment
20:51that one puts with the issue.
20:53Because think about the following,
20:55if journalism, let's do it the other way around,
20:57pays for a testimony,
20:59one can pay in remiss,
21:01one can say, well, come and eat something
21:03on the channel, one can pay for a delivery of money,
21:05one can pay for a hotel.
21:07Yes, recognize the day of work.
21:09Yes, the journalist, the person,
21:12well, in that case,
21:14he would be paying for a guideline.
21:16It would be very transparent
21:18to say that we are promoting such a person.
21:20No, no, no.
21:22It's not like that.
21:24Let's see.
21:26I think that in this cause
21:28many, many,
21:30many played.
21:32For whom?
21:34I don't know.
21:36We will have to solve it.
21:38I think that maybe
21:40priority number one, where is Lohan,
21:42what happened with Lohan?
21:44Then, the rest, yes.
21:46There are people who negotiated things
21:48from an intendant to the American,
21:50let them all go hand in hand,
21:52I'm not interested in anything.
21:54I wanted the kid.
21:56The rest, the rest.
21:58In fact, I'm even going to give you the right.
22:00Many told me, you know what happens?
22:02That this kid, for your client,
22:04this kid was believed to be
22:06super agent 86,
22:08he was the best military commando,
22:10he was...
22:12Well, I know people who feel
22:14that way,
22:16in the cause there is,
22:18there are people who wear a uniform
22:20with very high hierarchies
22:22of an institution
22:24and the result is that no,
22:26he is a fan of an institution
22:28and nothing,
22:30they get confused and do things wrong.
22:32That's what they explain to us, right?
22:34That's what they explain to you, of course.
22:36In fact, I'm not going to lie to you,
22:38I cut the dialogue with the American
22:40in the first days,
22:42yes, because
22:44in fact, they don't introduce me,
22:46they put me in touch.
22:48Mendes, Mendes,
22:50the lawyer Mendes,
22:52who starts talking to me, he told me,
22:54with the American who had good data,
22:56because I wanted to enter the triple border
22:58with hidden camera and show
23:00how easy the step was.
23:02Talking to him, he tells me,
23:04yes, yes, yes,
23:06well, up to there, 100 points.
23:08When he asks me,
23:10and I have saved the message,
23:12he asks me
23:14in a very strange language
23:16between American,
23:18Spanish and Indian,
23:20I don't know,
23:22I understood that he was asking me
23:24if I knew the sexual inclination
23:26of LOAN.
23:28Clearly, after that question,
23:30what do I have to do?
23:32Clearly, you don't understand
23:34how an investigation is handled.
23:38So, from there, I cut the link.
23:40Yes, I know people who handled
23:42with him a lot,
23:44a lot,
23:46and there were theories that, for me, they weren't.
23:48Like, for example,
23:50the protected witness.
23:52You ask me personally,
23:54I tell you, I don't believe anything,
23:56absolutely nothing. I know who he is,
23:58I know who the relative is,
24:01and I know who he owes money to.
24:03That's the problem.
24:05And that's where the threat comes from.
24:09I talk to this guy,
24:11he tells me, look,
24:13I'm an addict,
24:15and if you know,
24:17I work a lot in addiction,
24:19in Recovery Boys,
24:23and the addict
24:25is a liar,
24:27the addict is a liar.
24:29And if you put a bag of cocaine
24:31in front of him,
24:33not only is he a liar,
24:35but he makes up whatever you want to hear.
24:37So, well, he asks for what you tell me,
24:39they supplied me,
24:41and I tell you whatever you want to hear.
24:43So, that's where I say,
24:45let's not use an addict
24:47who is going through a disease,
24:49and we all know how addiction works,
24:51for a purpose
24:53that makes me take water to my mill.
24:55Do you understand where I'm going, Yamil?
24:57Yes, I understand,
24:59I sympathize with one of the things you say,
25:01because I have a very close relative
25:03who was a victim
25:05of Mameluco and his gang
25:07with the contamination
25:09of narcotics at the time.
25:11I have also worked
25:13and achieved the conviction
25:15of people linked
25:17to rehabilitation centers
25:19of addict boys who have ended up dead,
25:21and in fact, I am glad that last week
25:23there was an exemplary conviction
25:25of a boy named Isidro,
25:27but the reality is that
25:29that cannot enable
25:31to put a person in jail.
25:33I mean, the addict
25:35can lie to my client,
25:37he can lie to the judge,
25:39he can lie to a journalist,
25:41because, as I said, there are three versions,
25:43I don't know which one,
25:45but things are merged in that,
25:47beyond the fact that there are other elements,
25:49I insist, because there are several crimes,
25:51there is a question,
25:53my client was supposedly
25:55doing a search,
25:57but he was in a prosecutor's office,
25:59and that is what is being incorporated,
26:01not in the Logan case,
26:03but it is being incorporated through provincial
26:05audios and writings
26:07that place my client in another place,
26:09because I'm not talking about my interpretation,
26:11that day, at that time, he was in another place,
26:13in a prosecutor's office, taking a photo.
26:15If he is as a witness,
26:17a false testimony will be raised,
26:19but look, to make it clear,
26:21Soria is under arrest.
26:25Well, we have
26:27cover-up,
26:29stupefying facilitation,
26:31resistance to the authority,
26:35and there is one more that is
26:37getting lost in the air,
26:39but roughly, what they accuse him of
26:41is deviating the investigation
26:43and obtaining false testimonies
26:45for such purposes, and I have to give him
26:47a legal title, right?
26:49The reality is that
26:51they will never be able to prove to me,
26:53never, with any kind of certainty,
26:55that that purchase existed
26:57and that it existed for such purposes,
26:59because I insist, I can give
27:01an interviewee or a person,
27:03I don't know, come on, I invite you to eat something and tell me,
27:05but that's not why I'm telling you now,
27:07I need you to say something.
27:09And that's what worries me a lot
27:11about the Correntina justice,
27:13because they are leaving me this expiatory file,
27:15and what I would like to have as
27:18retaliation sounds bad,
27:20but as an answer, is that
27:22on some anniversary, the press is reinstated in Corrientes,
27:24at the door of the court,
27:26I remember that the judge,
27:28judged at 7 and a half, arrived much later,
27:30where that control is.
27:32Nowadays, it's like that,
27:34quiet, it must be like a pucho,
27:36and I understand that the court is doing
27:38a very hard job, I don't know if good or bad,
27:40I can't qualify it, but I understand
27:42that you were wondering at the time
27:44with this machine if
27:46Dr. Gallego wanted to find the truth,
27:48and I trust that he wants to find the truth,
27:50because we have an ethical principle,
27:52I hope to see it reflected,
27:54and at least my client too,
27:56I don't have an opposite interest
27:58with the Querella, to be honest.
28:00Yes, in the case,
28:02I say sometimes,
28:04not in the case of Dr. Gallego, I'm not talking about him,
28:06but you know, Yamil,
28:08that there are technical defenses,
28:10and there are defenses that are,
28:12because they believe in the innocence of the accused.
28:14Defending someone who you think is innocent
28:16is one thing,
28:18defending someone who you think is innocent is another thing.
28:20Do you think that within this
28:22expiatory file combo,
28:24all those who were naming foundations
28:26also entered,
28:28or they were squeezed and put in prison
28:30just to squeeze and silence public opinion?
28:32I haven't talked to them
28:34to give you a version,
28:36I can tell you about the American,
28:38but I haven't talked to them,
28:40because I have squeezed him myself,
28:42if you want.
28:44Yes, yes, I understand.
28:46I can't answer for the rest,
28:48because I insist,
28:50there are people who are not mentioned
28:52as accused,
28:54and in my opinion there are organizations
28:56that should at least be a little
28:58under the magnifying glass,
29:00because what role did you have,
29:02because you send me Soria,
29:04I prefer not to name,
29:06but you send him
29:08and then when he goes
29:10he accompanies a witness,
29:12because you told him,
29:14how can it be that an organization
29:16...
29:18To summarize, if I sink,
29:20everyone sinks,
29:22so what I understand is that surely
29:24you name your client
29:26that complicate others,
29:28including Gustavo Avera.
29:30Don't have any doubt, Diego,
29:32you send me to buy pizza,
29:34I come with a pizza, the police stops me
29:36and there was a kilo of cocaine.
29:38So, in this case,
29:40we are not talking about something like that,
29:42but about a mere accompaniment,
29:44a witness, you can't even explain
29:46that a civilian, a private,
29:48goes and talks to the judge
29:50and organizes the statement
29:52of a undercover witness.
29:54A judge talking to a private.
29:56I'll ask you the last question,
29:58I appeal to your brevity,
30:00we have urgent information,
30:02we investigated your client,
30:04Nicolás Soria, alias the American,
30:07we discovered that he has societies
30:09in the United States,
30:11some of them with revocations
30:13of maritime licenses
30:15for certain irregularities,
30:17I mean, maritime licenses,
30:19that one can relate,
30:21I'm not saying it's the case,
30:23with issues related to drug trafficking.
30:25He has a complaint
30:27for domestic violence,
30:29already closed,
30:31but a complaint for domestic violence.
30:33He has a partner in the Perspective Society
30:35that has connections
30:37with corporals, right?
30:39Yes, but that's been clarified.
30:41Remember, Diego,
30:43that this person,
30:45in the case of corporals,
30:47called me, one of the people,
30:49saying that he wasn't with corporals,
30:51this kid was transferred,
30:53he was remiss, he met Soria
30:55at the university,
30:57and he had big addiction problems
30:59too, remember?
31:01But do you understand that I don't appear
31:03in the case of corporals,
31:05or in the case of Lohan?
31:07Stop, stop, stop,
31:09because in the defense of the American,
31:11he doesn't appear in that case.
31:13He doesn't appear,
31:15or are they all adventurers,
31:17naive, that end up in the case?
31:19Let me tell you something,
31:21I'm not the one who's going to defend the American,
31:23much less,
31:25in fact, I'm the only one
31:27who wants to send him a letter of documents,
31:29but I'm not going to put him on top of something.
31:31There are two of us, we are two.
31:33Who else?
31:35What else?
31:37I always have a dialogue
31:39with my clients about this.
31:41Once the effervescence
31:43with the press passes,
31:45the important thing is
31:47that you can think differently.
31:49I didn't come here to make you agree,
31:51I think that was clear.
31:53I talked to him about this,
31:55I explained to him a little how,
31:57let's see, there is a news,
31:59there is a hypothesis,
32:01and even if what he was looking for
32:03was the OAN,
32:05what good is it that there is a controversy,
32:07that someone says that it is good,
32:09that it is bad, why?
32:11Because the topic is still being talked about
32:13and new elements can arise.
32:15That is essential for any type of research.
32:17And regarding societies,
32:19it doesn't change me at all.
32:21In fact, there are many politicians
32:23who have it and forget to declare it,
32:25but the reality is that he doesn't,
32:27in fact, we are looking for testimonies
32:29from the United States,
32:31because evidence of charge
32:33that the prosecution has now
32:35on camera is that he is married,
32:37the joke I make is because of a woman
32:39who is in prison, because they say
32:41that he is married to a person he does not know
32:43and that he visited Cuba and Great Britain
32:45as an element of charge.
32:47So I say, fuck it,
32:49if someone likes to travel,
32:51he has a problem with this prosecutor on camera.
32:53This is what we are, point by point,
32:56answering, looking for his freedom,
32:58regardless of whether he ends up
33:00being guilty or innocent.
33:02What's more, he can remain in prison
33:04and later in a trial they can say he is innocent.
33:06Totally, completely.
33:08Thank you for your time, Amilé,
33:10and for answering our questions.