👉 Tras la declaración indagatoria del expresidente Alberto Fernández, su abogada, Mariana Barbitta, se comprometió a hablar con la prensa. En medio de un fuerte dispositivo de seguridad, Barbitta negó las acusaciones de tráfico de influencias y defendió la actuación del exmandatario.
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00:00He finished his statement and there is movement, right?
00:02There is movement, exactly.
00:04Let's wait and see if Mariana Barbita, Alberto Fernández's lawyer, speaks.
00:08It is assumed that they had committed to speak, right?
00:11Exactly, that's what the colleagues who have been covering Comodoro P from early on told us.
00:15Obviously, there was a security device that surrounded the ex-president Alberto Fernández
00:20so that the press did not approach him, that he was not going to speak.
00:24But he did commit to his letter to give statements
00:27when he finished his statement, which has just happened.
00:31We see that there is a security operation so that the press does not get too close.
00:34Well, we are up, we are down.
00:37We are seeing a little bit of what happens in the corridors of Comodoro P
00:41and Luciana's live movement.
00:43Lu, let's see, attention, because there may be movement.
00:46And the rain is back. Lu.
00:49Yes, yes, Facundo, as it is.
00:51There may be movement from one minute to another.
00:53Dr. Barbita could come and speak.
00:56No, it will be easy, I tell you, to interview her here,
00:58because the truth is that, as you said,
01:00everything gets complicated with the weather conditions
01:04and the wind that blows is really very, very intense.
01:10We are working, obviously, waiting for Dr. Barbita,
01:15but, well, the weather conditions, as I told you, are not helping at all.
01:20We are waiting. Let's see, attention, Facundo.
01:24This white Corolla car, I understand,
01:27is the same one that had brought it to the former president.
01:30We hear the sirens.
01:34Well, there was a situation with a press photographer
01:37and then the former president Alberto Fernández is leaving
01:42after the statement, the first statement on this cause,
01:47the cause for alleged corruption in relation to insurance,
01:52after arriving around 9.30, 10.45 a.m.
01:56Let's see, wait a minute, I'm going up here, there is testimony.
01:59Who is speaking? Let's see.
02:01The lawyer Alberto Fernández.
02:03It had to do precisely with this arbitrariness that Dr. Colini passes.
02:09The famous decree.
02:10The decree is absolutely, legally impeccable, it is legitimate,
02:15it is even sustained in the framework of an administrative decision
02:19at the headquarters of the Administrative Court of Appeal.
02:23So there is no discussion about the decree.
02:25The decree in no way, if you allow me, if you allow me,
02:30if you allow me, I will explain the following.
02:33The objective of the decree was related precisely
02:37to shorten the characterization.
02:40Well, the proposal of the decree, which is also a decree
02:43that already had its antecedents in other years,
02:46in 2012, regarding IPF, regarding other bodies,
02:50had to do precisely with limiting the possibility
02:53that the currencies would go abroad.
02:55So you are saying that the decree did not enable
02:57the entry into play of the brokers?
02:59In no way.
03:00The whole issue of third-party ownership is absolutely far from the decree.
03:03If one reads the decree with exactitude, it is a little bit the...
03:06It is not stated in any way.
03:08At least, let's say, first and foremost,
03:11to also explain to you, this is the declaration,
03:14it is a very long declaration, where Dr. Alberto Fernández,
03:17from his technical role as ex-president of the nation,
03:20explained with certainty how it means,
03:23and what the processes regarding the insurance mean.
03:26And in that sense, he warned that in no way
03:29the decree enabled any kind of mediation.
03:32So...
03:33He did not steal from the State, but he benefited the State,
03:36according to the decree that you present.
03:38The imputation does not speak of theft, so please,
03:40technically, technically, it would be good that...
03:43It would be good, it would be good that the journalists,
03:46first of all, to ask questions to the defense,
03:49to internalize themselves, to know with exactitude what is being done.
03:52There is a so-called inquiry,
03:55there is a so-called inquiry that was raised by nullity.
03:58That nullity was rejected and eliminated,
04:01and that is why it generated that this act of inquiry
04:04will also be null in instances of...
04:07Doctor, I have a question, but it has to do with the communal sense.
04:11People think that the secretary of Alberto Fernández Privado
04:14was there, and the secretary's husband
04:17is one of the beneficiaries with this decree,
04:20or with the entry into play of the brokers.
04:23So that's when one starts to think...
04:26Martín Sosa is someone historically recognized,
04:29not for this decree, but at the national and world level,
04:32for being precisely a broker of insurance.
04:35So, to think that there could be some connivance
04:39is absolutely unfounded, false and arbitrary.
04:42Alberto Fernández never benefited anyone,
04:46first and foremost because the decree
04:49excluded the possibility of intermediation.
04:52The problem is that no one has read the decree.
04:55So, I invite you to read the decree
04:58and to look at it with exactitude,
05:01what are the articles in which...
05:04We believe that, and this is what Dr. Alberto Fernández said,
05:07this has to do with a political direction,
05:10a political decision was put in play,
05:13which is not judicial, as Dr. Alberto Fernández also said,
05:16and he is asking Dr. Ercolini
05:19that, precisely because he has been refused,
05:22and there are reasons that have not even been confirmed,
05:25because there are very strong reasons for refusal
05:28that are exposed in the decree,
05:31and I am going to give you, in a few minutes,
05:34I am also going to give you the indictment
05:37and the index where we explain with exactitude
05:40each of the steps that were taken.
05:43Does Dr. Alberto Fernández feel persecuted by Ercolini?
05:46It is not a question of persecuting or not persecuting,
05:49it is a question of feeling that he is not before an impartial judge.
05:52And so he said, that is why the beginning of the declaration was tense,
05:55because, of course, Dr. Alberto Fernández
05:58does not guarantee security and tranquility
06:01for all citizens when they face a judicial cause.
06:04All officials suspected of corruption always say the same thing,
06:07that they are political decisions that are not judicial.
06:10First and foremost, I am not going to be a spokesperson for anyone else.
06:13In this case, I thank you very much for your presence.
06:16I am going to continue my work, I have to continue,
06:19I have to meet again with Dr. Alberto.
06:22No, no, he only answered questions about the defense.
06:25There was an interesting situation,
06:28he made a proposal for us to show him some chats,
06:31he accessed the defense, we read it,
06:34and he was able to express himself.
06:37So it was an audience with a lot of respect, of course,
06:40but with this own tension, as I was saying,
06:43of a person, of a citizen, former president of the nation,
06:46who looks absolutely insecure
06:49in front of a judge who has been rejected,
06:52whose rejections and reasons are very strong.
06:55He mentioned some, and here they are in writing.
06:58Thank you very much, thank you very much.
07:01We are going to appeal, we are going to appeal all the rejections,
07:04they are going to be appealed, we have a victory tomorrow Thursday,
07:07so that is not going to stay firm.
07:10So he did not keep any weight of the state.
07:13Of course there is no discussion
07:16that there is some kind of deviation, there is no deviation,
07:19and also he is the former president of the nation,
07:22whose origin of the decree
07:25was related to other bodies.
07:28There is a project of Mr. Pagliano,
07:31and so there is a chat that identifies this,
07:34which generated, let's say, an administrative circuit
07:37so that the decree would finally come to light.
07:40And the decree, I insist, does not admit any mediation.
07:43Thank you very much.
07:46Well, Dr. Mariana Barbita is still talking,
07:49she is going to finish declaring Alberto Fernández.
07:52He already left, he showed his cell phone to Luciana Arias.
07:55Fernández never, never benefited anyone.
07:58Here what was talked about was obviously an influence trafficking.
08:01In a line, I close this and come back with Miriam.
08:04Cata, go ahead.
08:07Well, let's see, the important thing that Alberto Fernández's lawyer just said
08:10is that he did not declare, but that he answered questions
08:13from the judge and the prosecutor who were there.
08:16He was quite angry with the journalists, the truth is unnecessary,
08:19when they asked him some questions, saying,
08:22you do not inform us well of the case file,
08:25because the biggest argument that the ex-president and the lawyer have,
08:28which the judge and the prosecutor do not consider that this is so,
08:31is that it is a crazy accusation,
08:34that Alberto Fernández never favored anyone,
08:37that this accusation is glued to him in the case of insurance.
08:40However, the judge and the prosecutor consider that there is a lot of evidence,
08:43they call it an investigation, in this case that has just ended,
08:46against him to move forward and we have to see now what happens
08:49after this, if a new trial comes,
08:52there are a few days for the judge to resolve what he is going to do with Alberto Fernández.
08:56But basically, the lawyer said that he defended himself
08:59only by presenting the writing, answering questions
09:02and denying all the accusations.
09:05Let's remember something that, let's see, Hector Martínez Sosa,
09:08of whom we are talking,
09:11is the secretary's husband, a man linked to insurance,
09:14a man who has had...
09:15A friend, Alberto.
09:16Yes, I know him.
09:18And he has also had gifts from one side to the other,
09:22from Alberto Fernández to him and him to Alberto Fernández,
09:25very expensive gifts, very expensive watches,
09:28which have obviously been incorporated in the cause,
09:31and a phone, and in addition to the findings,
09:34a seizure of the cell phone, for example,
09:37of María Cantero, the secretary of Alberto Fernández,
09:40and the husband of Hector, wife of Hector Martínez Sosa,
09:43from which was extracted what was later guessed
09:47in the Fabiola Yañez case against Alberto Fernández.
09:50Of course, exactly.
09:51This was the tip, right?
09:53The tip that...
09:54The complaint of Fabiola for gender violence,
09:56for these chats that there were between María Cantero and the secretary of Alberto.
10:00Let's remember that María Cantero, this is very important,
10:03was part of that iron triangle
10:06that they had put to take care of, in quotation marks,
10:09or to imprison, others say, Fabiola Yañez.
10:12From that arises the complaint for gender violence.
10:16When this cause was being investigated,
10:19these chat controversies appear,
10:21where it is presumed that Fabiola threw that tip to María Cantero
10:27to see if someone could protect her against these alleged beatings.
10:31Which she didn't do.
10:32Which she didn't do.
10:33But it speaks of the degree of closeness of this family with Alberto Fernández.
10:37That's why it's so important and that's why there are so many others.
10:40And a cause, that of the insurance companies,
10:42in which there was a direction,
10:45because many of the ministers who showed themselves
10:49not permeable to this possibility,
10:54I think one of them was Agustín Rossi,
10:56within the chats that there were between them,
10:59one of them was, let me talk to him,
11:01to convince him to take the insurance for the ministry that was or had his position.
11:06Well, I'm going to go in a minute, I'm going to come back if necessary.
11:10I'm going with Fabián Rubino on the phone.
11:13Fabi, how are you? How are you? Where are you? Tell us.