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Pemerintah memastikan akan menjalankan kebijakan penyesuaian tarif pajak pertambahan nilai (PPN) dari 11% menjadi 12% pada 2025 mendatang. Menteri Keuangan Sri Mulyani Indrawati menyebut, penyesuaian tarif PPN tersebut merupakan amanat Undang-Undang Nomor 7 Tahun 2021 tentang Harmonisasi Peraturan Perpajakan (UU HPP).

Mengacu Pasal 7 ayat (1), tarif PPN 12% berlaku paling lambat 1 Januari 2025, setelah kenaikan tarif PPN dari 10% menjadi 11% pada April 2022.

Sri Mulyani menyebut, kenaikan tarif PPN juga bertujuan menempatkan Indonesia sejajar dengan negara-negara OECD (The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development). Pasalnya, saat ini tarif PPN Indonesia masih berada di bawah rata-rata tarif negara lain.

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00:00Indrawati, the Minister of Finance, confirmed that the increase in the PPP tariff is due to the implementation of the new tax law.
00:13The government has ensured that the implementation of the first tax increase of 12% will continue from the beginning of 2025, in accordance with the provisions of the Tax Regulation Harmonization Act.
00:26Indrawati, the Minister of Finance, confirmed that the increase in the PPP tariff is an effort to maintain the condition of budget balance, income, and state spending.
00:40The Ministry of Finance has ensured that the increase in the first tax increase of 12% will continue, in accordance with the provisions of the Tax Regulation Harmonization Act.
00:56Thus, the increase in the PPP tariff of 12% will begin to occur on January 1, 2025.
01:02However, the Minister of Finance, Sri Mulyani, insisted that there will be a number of goods and services.
01:08He said that the PPP tariff will be lower than 12%, even if the PPP tariff is as high as 0%.
01:16Sri Mulyani said that the increase in the PPP tariff to 12% is not a policy that is arbitrary.
01:23It is a step to maintain the condition of the State Budget that functions as a barrier to the economy, including in the event of a global crisis.
01:35So here we have discussed with you, there is already a law.
01:40We need to prepare it so that it can be carried out, but with a good explanation.
01:47So we can still, not blindly, but the State Budget must continue to maintain its health.
01:53However, at other times, the State Budget must function and be able to respond as we see in episodes such as the time of the global financial crisis, the time of the pandemic, we use the State Budget.
02:09Minister of Finance, Sri Mulyani said that the government will consider a number of programs to support the purchasing power of the people, in line with the plan to implement the PPP tariff as high as 12%.
02:25From Jakarta, IDX Channel coverage team.
02:33Yes, our topic this time, the PPP tariff 12% officially applies on January 1, 2025.
02:39We have been connected via Zoom with Mr. Arief Rahman Syed, Chairman of HIPMI Tech Center.
02:44Hello, how are you, Mr. Arief?
02:46Hello, how are you, Mr. Pras?
02:49How are you?
02:50How are you? I hope you are always healthy.
02:52Thank you for your time.
02:54This is interesting.
02:55From your point of view, how do you see the increase in the PPP tariff 12%?
03:01Finally, it will still be implemented next year.
03:04How do you see it?
03:06Yes, we haven't discussed this at all, Mr. Pras Yesek, in this forum.
03:12But indeed, if we talk about the determination of the law, it has been established since 2021, since the implementation of the law on the PPP tariff.
03:25Indeed, if we responded earlier, this is not an arbitrary policy.
03:30Indeed, we believe that the government has considered everything.
03:36But what needs to be noted is that this policy was decided or enacted in 2021 at that time.
03:47Of course, in terms of context, economic conditions, and everything, it is certainly different from when it was initiated.
04:00So I think actually, of course, this will be very difficult for entrepreneurs.
04:06Because with the increase in the PPP tariff from 11% to 12%, this is not just an increase of 1%, actually, Mr. Pras.
04:14But the PPP tariff has increased by almost 10%, 9%, because from 11% to 12%.
04:23Of course, this will be very difficult.
04:25And of course, with our current economic conditions, we must be careful not to make it counterproductive.
04:37So, let's talk about the important points that may need to be regulated in the implementation of the implementation of the PPP 12% next year.
04:47Yes, at least there are two things that are our input.
04:52When this is indeed what must be done.
04:57But this is something that weighs.
05:04We hope that there is another side that is given a kind of relief or incentive.
05:10We can, for example, increase the PPP tariff, I think it will be an alternative solution so that it is not too heavy.
05:25Later, it can be studied how much the increase in the PPP tariff can be.
05:29Now, it's Rp. 54 million per person.
05:32That may be increased later.
05:34So that the layer of income tariff, the layer of income that is related to the PPP will also increase.
05:42So that what becomes income can really be spent by the community.
05:49Then the next thing is, maybe we certainly provide input so that this increase is included.
05:57If we look at the exception for the PPP, it was last several years ago.
06:04It means that it is not the same as this PPP tariff.
06:06Well, I think it is also necessary with the implementation of the PPP increase to 12%,
06:11add the exception in this PPP tariff.
06:17Because if we talk about the PPP, everything is affected except what is in the negative list.
06:22So I think it needs to be added in the negative list, sectors that are affected by the basic impact of this PPP increase.
06:34But if we talk about sectors that are potentially affected by an increase of almost 10% from the PPP,
06:40from 11% to 12% next year, what is it?
06:43Maybe this is related to how Indonesia's economy will look like in the future.
06:49Yes, especially those who support us in the household consumption sector.
06:56It means daily needs.
06:58This must be given real attention so that incentives are given, exceptions are given.
07:07For example, certain sectors can be released at once.
07:12Maybe the PPP tariff is given, because it is in the PPP legislation,
07:16in the next paragraph, it is given a range of 5% to 15%.
07:23It means that when we, the government, give exceptions to several sectors,
07:31especially those that become household needs,
07:36it will certainly reduce the impact felt by the people, by our citizens.
07:44So that's the main thing, which becomes a daily need and a basic need, I think.
07:51And which becomes a basic need for us, the people.
07:56Now, if we talk about socialization or how the delivery process that has been conveyed by the government
08:03to the business community itself, is it already optimal?
08:09So I think this needs to be continued to be improved.
08:13Especially in relation to sensitive issues like this,
08:17the community must be able to get a comprehensive explanation.
08:22So the government can't just say,
08:27this has become a decision or a provision in the law, for example.
08:32Or just explain with things that the community can really understand.
08:40So that later the community can also understand that,
08:43yes, we do need to work together,
08:46how the development in our beloved country can continue,
08:50economic growth can also continue to grow and move.
08:54So there is a collective awareness from our community that,
08:59okay, if the GDP goes up,
09:02hopefully everything can grow economically as a whole.
09:09But with the note earlier, there needs to be incentives on the other side.
09:14Because the current condition is still very difficult,
09:19if we can say, our economy.
09:22Moreover, this is still a transitional period, right?
09:24Government transition.
09:25Of course, this must really be the concern of the government.
09:32Yes, the impact or consequences that must be anticipated
09:36with the 12% GDP in the next year,
09:40what is it?
09:42I remember earlier, maybe for some people,
09:45this is quite burdensome.
09:47But what about big companies?
09:49Does this 12% become something that is not a problem?
09:52Or how?
09:53Or is it actually 12%?
09:55On average, many do not agree,
09:58do not need to be increased, for example.
10:01Yes, if we pay attention,
10:03there are indeed many elements of the community
10:06who state their disagreement.
10:09But again, in this case, the government states that this has been established,
10:14and at that time it was also conveyed to friends at the DPR and all kinds of things.
10:20Although earlier, from the beginning, we have said
10:23that the context at that time was established,
10:25with the current context, it is different.
10:29And that, in our opinion, can be adjusted
10:33when the conditions are still difficult for our community.
10:38So, our point there is actually
10:42that there is still time,
10:45about a month,
10:47for January 1, 2025.
10:50We study it, the government studies it,
10:53that we both know that the purchasing power of the community is declining.
10:58Then we also know that our middle class
11:02from 2019 to 2024 also tends to decline.
11:06This is an alarm for our economy.
11:11Especially with anti-PPNI,
11:13it will certainly have an impact on the increase in GDP.
11:19Then it will automatically increase the price.
11:23Then it will lower the demand.
11:27And in the end, when the demand drops,
11:29production will drop.
11:31And this will also have an impact on the cessation of labor.
11:36So, this must really be anticipated,
11:38the impact that may arise with the increase in tariffs to 12%.
11:44Yes, but on the one hand, we know,
11:47maybe in the future, the fiscal conditions,
11:49the government is quite tight,
11:51so we need to have one,
11:55an increase in income, taxes,
11:57and one of them is the PPN,
11:59which will be increased by 12% next year.
12:02Is this something that we need to consider?
12:05We will discuss later in the next segment.
12:06Next, Mr. Arief, let's take a short break.
12:08And, viewers, we will be right back after the next segment.
12:28Thank you for still joining us in Market Review.
12:31And, viewers, we will be sharing data
12:33on state income in the last few years.
12:37We will discuss together.
12:38Okay, in 2018, up to 2025,
12:41what is the projection?
12:43Then, the target of state income in the last few years,
12:49we see in 2023, 2,155.42 trillion.
12:53Then, in 2024, 2,800 trillion.
12:57And in 2025, 3,000 trillion.
13:02This is interesting.
13:03Then, next, we see free goods from the PPN.
13:08What is this?
13:09First, mining goods or mining results
13:13that are directly taken from the source.
13:15Then, the needs of the people,
13:17which is very much needed by the people,
13:19including milk.
13:20Then, food and drinks served in hotels, restaurants,
13:25restaurants, and the like,
13:27which includes food and drinks,
13:29whether consumed locally or not,
13:32which is provided by Boga or Catering.
13:36Then, there is money, gold bars, and valuable letters.
13:40Wow, this is interesting.
13:41We will continue our discussion with Mr. Arief Roman Said,
13:44Head of HIPMI Tech Center.
13:46Mr. Arief, how is it from the point of view of state income,
13:51the target continues to rise.
13:52Meanwhile, we know from the tax sector,
13:55the PPN is indeed a supporter of the PPN.
13:58What do you think?
13:5912% must be increased immediately
14:01if we want to reach the target of 3,000 trillion in 2025.
14:06Yes, if we talk about,
14:11I'm sorry, the right way,
14:13the instant way to increase income
14:16is by increasing the PPN rate.
14:18Because the PPN system is already relatively mature.
14:24This means that it has entered our ecosystem,
14:29the tax authority ecosystem,
14:31so that what is already in it can be left,
14:36then the rate is increased.
14:38In this case, what is done is to increase the PPN rate.
14:43But of course, the tax authority should also make efforts
14:49to increase the PPN rate.
14:54So how to increase the data base,
14:57increase the number of tax obligations,
14:59increase the tax subjects and also tax objects related to taxes.
15:04Because we are convinced that there is still a lot of data,
15:10tax objects that have not yet entered our tax system.
15:16How do we know that there are still a lot of underground economies
15:21that have not yet entered our tax system.
15:25Actually, if we talk about how to increase state income,
15:32there are several things that we have voiced in various forums.
15:38We both refer to the HPP law,
15:43which has been certified that there should be a carbon tax,
15:48which should have happened in 2022.
15:50But until now, it tends to not be executed.
15:56That's the first.
15:57If we talk about the fact that the PPN is already in the law,
16:00the carbon tax is also not already in the law.
16:03Then the second is,
16:05maybe we talk about the drop in nickel.
16:09There is also a tremendous potential
16:12to increase our tax receivables.
16:16From these two things alone,
16:19if this is to be promised as a substitute
16:23for the increase in state income from the tax sector,
16:28it is already a plus or minus.
16:30Because we also hope that when the rate is increased,
16:35the income will automatically increase.
16:37But if later our overall economic activity
16:41becomes a slowdown,
16:44it also becomes counterproductive to our state's receivables.
16:49But at the very least,
16:50if the PPN is still carried out to 12%,
16:54then also in the name of justice,
16:58the carbon tax is also carried out,
17:01then the drop in nickel is also related to taxes,
17:06which of course will also be able to
17:11fulfill the sense of community justice.
17:13So, not only in terms of making it easier
17:17and looking for the smallest risk,
17:20but also of course, if we talk about the reasons of the law,
17:24we have mentioned above,
17:25how the carbon tax and also
17:27maybe can be added with other drop in nickel products.
17:31And there are still many more, actually,
17:33we want to be creative
17:35to look for new tax receivables.
17:39Well, Mas Arief,
17:40if from some of the data that has been presented,
17:42free goods from the PPN,
17:45how about the mining goods
17:47or the mining results that are directly taken from the source?
17:50Then the construction of trees that are really needed,
17:52including milk in it.
17:54Then there was money, Mas Batangan,
17:57precious letters.
17:59Yes, so if we look at it,
18:02those are things that have been excluded from the PPN.
18:08But what we have mentioned earlier,
18:11that in addition to the basic needs,
18:14I think we also need to give incentives,
18:18even if it is not related to the PPN,
18:22but the PPN can be minimized.
18:25That is our daily needs.
18:27Yes, it can be the needs for food and all kinds of things.
18:35So it's not just what becomes the basic needs
18:40that are mentioned there,
18:42there is rice and so on.
18:44Well, there will also be an exception
18:46when there is already a mining process,
18:49an additional value process there.
18:51So later there will be the requirements,
18:56for how to remain excluded.
18:59Later, if there is an additional value process
19:02and all kinds of things,
19:03it will also become a facility
19:08to not be affected,
19:09it will be lost.
19:11So this is what needs to be considered,
19:13that for the needs of trees and all kinds of things,
19:16what needs to be added earlier,
19:18our input is that it becomes a daily consumption.
19:24So the basic needs, tree needs, and daily consumption.
19:27Because that is what will certainly have an impact,
19:31that is what becomes the daily needs of our community.
19:33Yes, so if we talk about consistency,
19:36receiving the country,
19:37then you see the expansion of the tax base,
19:40how does the Cortex system like this
19:44sometimes can increase the acceptance of the country from the tax sector?
19:49Yes, that's why if we talk about consistency,
19:52we have already set an example about the carbon tax,
19:56which is equally in the law,
19:58but why hasn't it been done until now?
20:00But on the other hand, when we talk about PPN,
20:03what is put forward is that this has been invited.
20:07I think we have to, from the tax authority,
20:11from the government in this,
20:12there must be consistency,
20:13how then things that already exist,
20:18if that is the main reason,
20:21then other things must also be done,
20:25so that there will be no sense of injustice.
20:31Yes, but if you look at the PPN 12%,
20:34which has become controversial even to this day,
20:37looking at the conditions in 2025,
20:40our economic growth is still stagnant at 5%,
20:43even yesterday it dropped by 4.95%,
20:45what do you see?
20:47Will it pressure again from the economic wheel,
20:51look at our economy,
20:52if there are indeed some elements of the needs of the community
20:55which eventually experienced an increase there too, Mas Arief?
20:58Correct.
20:59So indeed, if this policy is not included in the incentive policy
21:04related to how to stimulate economic growth,
21:10of course what becomes the prediction
21:14from various sectors, various economies,
21:18we also agree that when this is done
21:21without then there is a rule that follows it,
21:25an incentive that follows it,
21:27it will definitely greatly suppress our economic growth.
21:30If in some occasions it can be said at 4.8, 4.9,
21:38yesterday when we discussed it could be at 4.7, 4.8.
21:43This is far from what our president promised
21:49that the target of economic growth can be at least 8%.
21:54This is our common goal,
21:59how we can all provide inputs to the government
22:04so that of course the future government can do better
22:09in delivering economic growth.
22:13That's it.
22:14Remembering that this has already been implemented
22:16because the government also based on laws
22:18related to the implementation of PPN 12% in 2025,
22:22it means that what is expected is
22:23how to follow the rules
22:25that can be a balancer
22:27related to the business world.
22:29That is our hope together
22:31so that later it does not become counterproductive
22:35and becomes a pressure on our economic growth.
22:38Okay, we'll wait later,
22:39what kind of innovation and creativity
22:42will be released by the government in the future.
22:45Mas Arief, thank you very much for the time, sharing,
22:47and update that you have given to the audience today.
22:49Congratulations on continuing your activities.
22:51Thank you very much.
22:52Good health, Mas Arief. Thank you.
22:53Good health to all. Thank you.
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