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00:00Now, it's time for the 4th episode.
00:02We have invited these guests to talk about the 4th episode.
00:05Hello.
00:06Hello.
00:08Is this the TV show we used to watch?
00:11The TV show we used to watch when we were kids.
00:13Please, show us the footage of this episode.
00:17This is a show for two people.
00:21Welcome.
00:22It's too much.
00:24I'm just kidding.
00:26Takajin is not in the show.
00:29I was left behind and cooked while watching the show.
00:35Tonight, we have invited Hideyuki Nakayama, the most famous host in Japan.
00:42He will talk about the 4th episode of the show.
00:47I thought I was hired to do this show.
00:51I got up and went home.
00:53In the middle of the show?
00:54Yes, in the middle of the show.
00:55I didn't know what to do.
00:58It's impossible to start from there.
01:00Hideyuki Nakayama has overcome many difficulties.
01:04I have to do this show.
01:06I have to do this show.
01:08He is so energetic.
01:10All the staff love Hideyuki Nakayama.
01:13And...
01:14All the staff will leave the show.
01:16All the staff will leave the show.
01:18It's a fierce battle.
01:20What is the big incident that led to the TV show?
01:26When I was young, I went to the TV show.
01:29The 4th episode, the 4th episode, the 4th episode, the 4th episode.
01:31What?
01:32It's amazing.
01:33It's a great story.
01:34It's a great story.
01:35It's a great story.
01:37The 4th episode of the show is about to start.
01:43Here is the topic of the show.
01:45He met his best friend in his 40s, Nakayama and Matsumoto.
01:50They are handsome and cute.
01:54Actually, this cardigan I'm wearing is Matsumoto's cardigan.
01:59Really?
02:00You two are close.
02:01You two are close.
02:02I'm 16 years old.
02:04I just got out of the army.
02:06I didn't have any clothes.
02:08This is my first photo in the company.
02:10It's your first photo.
02:11You two look like a couple.
02:14You look like a couple.
02:15You look like a couple.
02:16You look like a couple.
02:17We have been together for a long time.
02:18We have been together for a long time.
02:19We have been together for a long time.
02:20More than 40 years.
02:21We have lived together.
02:22We have a dormitory in our country.
02:24We are dormitory students.
02:28We met on the day I was discharged from the army.
02:31I was 16 years old.
02:33You met him on the day you were discharged.
02:35I was 16 years old when I was discharged.
02:37I went to the dormitory in my country.
02:39You were a dormitory student.
02:40I was a dormitory student.
02:41I was going to greet my seniors.
02:43There was a women's bath in front of my room.
02:48There was a men's bath.
02:50I was going to greet my seniors.
02:53Matsumoto came out of the bath while singing.
02:56I met him by chance.
02:58You met him by chance.
02:59Why did you meet him?
03:00Until now, no one was in the room.
03:03I see.
03:04He was in Hibiki's room.
03:06I see.
03:07I went out of the bath and went to Matsumoto's room.
03:08I didn't meet anyone.
03:09That was my routine.
03:11I see.
03:12You went out of the bath in a hurry.
03:14You went out of the bath in a hurry.
03:15You went out of the bath in a hurry.
03:16How did you greet him?
03:18Nice to meet you. I'm Nakayama.
03:19You greeted him.
03:20You greeted him.
03:21You were calm.
03:23I thought this was the world.
03:26That's not the world.
03:28I held out my hand.
03:30I held out my hand.
03:31I held out my hand.
03:32That's amazing.
03:34I went into the room with a flower song.
03:37You held out your hand.
03:38You held out your hand.
03:39You held out your hand.
03:40You held out your hand.
03:41He is a dangerous person.
03:42He is a dangerous person.
03:43I respect him.
03:45I respect him.
03:46He is a dangerous person.
03:47He is a dangerous person.
03:48He is a dangerous person.
03:49He is a dangerous person.
03:50I was a fool.
03:51I was a fool.
03:52I was a fool.
03:53I was a fool.
03:54I was a fool.
03:55I was a fool.
03:56I was a fool.
03:57I was a fool.
03:58You were a fool.
03:59I was a fool.
04:00I was a fool.
04:01I was a fool.
04:02I was a fool.
04:03I was a fool.
04:04I was a fool.
04:05I was a fool.
04:06I was a fool.
04:07I was a fool.
04:08I was a fool.
04:09I was a fool.
04:10I was a fool.
04:11I was a fool.
04:12I was a fool.
04:13I was a fool.
04:14I was a fool.
04:15How old were you then?
04:16I was 17 or 18 years old.
04:21You were the youngest Hosare.
04:23Hosare?
04:24The youngest Hosare.
04:26That's right.
04:27I was watching the show in the dormitory.
04:30You said four words that you shouldn't have said.
04:34Is it okay to say that on TV?
04:36Was it four words?
04:37Was it four words?
04:38You added O?
04:40That's right.
04:42Was it consecutive?
04:43I pressed it three times.
04:46I said, is it this? Is it this? Is it this?
04:48Did you think it would be funny?
04:49I thought it would be funny.
04:50I don't think it would be funny.
04:52I don't think it would be funny.
04:54I doubted my ears and my eyes.
04:57Ryosei only had one TV.
05:01I watched it as if I was surrounded by it.
05:02I witnessed the shock with everyone.
05:05Did you laugh? Were you surprised?
05:07All the Ryosei members looked at each other's faces.
05:12It was real.
05:13It was real.
05:14You didn't say, is it?
05:18Did I say, is it?
05:20I wondered when I said, is it?
05:22You said it with a smile.
05:24And I was kicked out by AD.
05:27Did you say it right there?
05:28Did I say it right there?
05:30Did I say, this guy is crazy?
05:31Did I say, this guy is crazy?
05:33I said, this guy is crazy.
05:35Did you force it right there?
05:36That's right.
05:37Because of that, the women's bath didn't let me in.
05:43What?
05:44It was dirty.
05:46It was dirty.
05:47It was a dirty image.
05:49It was dirty.
05:49I feel sorry for them.
05:50What is that?
05:51I feel sorry for them.
05:52They were idols at that time.
05:55When they enter the bath, they lock the door.
05:57It's a bath where everyone can enter.
06:00I couldn't let them in.
06:03There are people who are bullied.
06:07I couldn't let them in.
06:09Because they were in the men's bath.
06:12What kind of person is that?
06:14They had to sweat a lot.
06:17I don't think there are many people like that in the entertainment world.
06:21I was in a dangerous world.
06:24But he was the one who said those four words.
06:27That's right.
06:28I'm glad I said it early.
06:30I'm glad I said it early.
06:31I'm glad I said it early.
06:32I'm glad I said it early.
06:33I'm glad I said it early.
06:34I'm glad I said it early.
06:37Matsumoto-san.
06:38Please choose a topic that you are interested in.
06:41Today's topic is Nakayama-san.
06:44He is the best MC in Japan.
06:47Nakayama Hideyuki.
06:49Let's do this.
06:51This is a video.
06:53Oda-san.
06:54Please give me the cue.
06:55I have to watch the video.
07:01I absolutely want to talk about it.
07:04The best MC in Japan.
07:06Nakayama Hideyuki.
07:09He formed the comedy duo AB BROTHERS in 1985.
07:14He became popular as an idol.
07:16After that.
07:18Golden Time is a number that matches 30%.
07:21From the 1990s to the present.
07:24He has been the MC of many programs such as THE YORU MO HIPPARE, DAISUKI, UCHIKURU, and SHUICHI.
07:33He has worked with great hosts such as KAMIOKA, KISHIMURA, SANMA, and TAKESHI.
07:40He has been running up the stairs of the MC.
07:47Tonight, Hide-san, who has the power under the pen.
07:50I will listen to the stories of the great hosts.
07:55It's amazing.
07:58It's amazing that Hide-san hasn't changed his appearance or style.
08:04Hide-san is about 20 years old.
08:0720 years old?
08:09I'm 30 years old.
08:12HIRAMEKI PASSWORD is when SHINSUKE was a panelist.
08:17SHINGO YAMASHIRO is the host.
08:21I have never seen SHINSUKE's panelist.
08:24SHINSUKE is a middle-aged man and I am a young man.
08:28KAMIOKA is the host of KYOFU HOSOKU.
08:31Did you work with KAMIOKA?
08:33At that time, KAMIOKA left the program.
08:39What do you mean?
08:45This is an ABC program.
08:47I made a promise with KAMIOKA.
08:51There was a change in the content of the program.
08:55There was a change in the direction of the program.
08:58The recording of the program started.
08:59The audience was there.
09:00Noriko Kato was there.
09:02When the program progressed to a certain extent, KAMIOKA said.
09:05I didn't take this job to do this kind of program.
09:09I didn't take this job to do that kind of program.
09:11I will go home.
09:12KAMIOKA got up and went home.
09:15Did he go home during the recording?
09:16He went home during the recording.
09:17The audience was there.
09:18I thought he would come back.
09:21I made a promise with KAMIOKA.
09:23All the staff members were there.
09:26They were in a hurry.
09:29KAMIOKA left.
09:30All the staff members were gone.
09:32There were only me, the guest and the audience.
09:37All the staff members left.
09:39There were a few people left.
09:40KAMIOKA left.
09:42I thought it was okay because it was the end of the program.
09:45I made a promise with KAMIOKA.
09:48That's amazing.
09:49Didn't you stop the program?
09:50I didn't stop the program.
09:52All the staff members left.
09:54The production team left.
09:56I thought it was okay.
09:59It's impossible to stop the program.
10:01I thought he would come back.
10:05I thought he would come back.
10:08When did you stop the program?
10:09I stopped the program when I was 29 or 30 years old.
10:12That's amazing.
10:14I stopped the program.
10:16I didn't go back to the program.
10:18KAMIOKA left.
10:19Did you leave the program as it was?
10:21I think the program was canceled.
10:23It was the last episode.
10:25KAMIOKA was in a good mood.
10:29It was a great show.
10:33I was impressed by KAMIOKA's speech.
10:37In Kansai, there is TAKAJIN.
10:42TAKAJIN?
10:43TAKAJIN also left the program when he was with me.
10:49How long have you been with him?
10:51I can't go back to the program.
10:53Maybe HIDE is bad.
10:56That's not true.
10:59What is this?
11:01TAKAJIN's bar was a big hit.
11:05The Tokyo version of TAKAJIN's bar will be released.
11:07Tokyo version?
11:09TAKAJIN will cook.
11:11It will be broadcast live at midnight.
11:14TAKAJIN will cook in the style of a bar.
11:18At that time, the guest was me and MAKOTO OTAKE.
11:22Again?
11:24TAKAJIN and MAKOTO OTAKE?
11:27Do you have something in common?
11:30At that time, TAKAJIN was in KIKISHINIMASARU.
11:34Today, TAKAJIN is in KIKISHINIMASARU.
11:36I have to do TAKAJIN well.
11:38TAKAJIN loves beans.
11:42TAKAJIN loves cooking.
11:44TAKAJIN writes all the recipes and sends them to the staff.
11:48At that time, TAKAJIN started broadcasting live.
11:50At that time, TAKAJIN started broadcasting live.
11:54When TAKAJIN said something, the staff said,
11:58Hey, I'm asking you.
12:00That's scary.
12:02It's about time.
12:04That's scary.
12:05When TAKAJIN said,
12:07There's no taste, is there?
12:09I asked him if there was a taste.
12:11I told him, there's no taste, is there?
12:13I said, you are alive!
12:15I was shaking like crazy.
12:17I was shaking like crazy.
12:19A girl with a bunny girl fell into the forest.
12:20A girl with a bunny girl fell into the forest.
12:22It was too scary.
12:24Everyone was shaking and shouting.
12:30TAKAJIN said, I'm sorry.
12:33I went to a commercial once, and there were only me and Mr. Otake at the end of the commercial.
12:39Why do you meet so many people?
12:41I don't know.
12:43I'm strong-willed.
12:45After that, I had to do a live broadcast, so I thought Mr. Takajin would come back.
12:49But he wasn't on Mr. Takajin's show.
12:52That's impossible.
12:54He was left with Mr. Otake.
12:56I made a dish while looking at the recipe.
13:01You're too strong-willed.
13:03You have to make it work.
13:07Mr. Takajin is not on the show.
13:09All the staff will like you.
13:11You can make a dish.
13:13You can make a dish without seasoning.
13:15I wish I had Mr. Takajin on the show.
13:17But if I don't have Mr. Takajin on the show, I can't make a dish.
13:19I can't make a dish.
13:21You're too strong-willed.
13:23It's amazing, isn't it?
13:25Mr. Takajin left the show.
13:27He left the show.
13:29Really?
13:31The interesting thing is that TV shows are connected to the play.
13:37But it's hard to express it on TV.
13:39It's hard to talk about other songs.
13:43But this era is interesting because it's connected to the play.
13:47I was on a TV show called Fuji TV.
13:49I was on a TV show called Fuji TV.
13:51I was on a TV show called Fuji TV.
13:53I was on a TV show called Fuji TV.
13:55The guests were Mr. Takajin.
13:59and everything we filmed at Fuji was based on the TV show.
14:01and everything we filmed at Fuji was based on the TV show.
14:03Mr. Takajin was saying that Mr. Kamioka can't fix this foolishness.
14:05Mr. Takajin was saying that Mr. Kamioka can't fix this foolishness.
14:07Wow, that's unbelievable!
14:08You're well-sounding.
14:10So, everything was based on the TV show.
14:13You were saying,исс Lv it.
14:15You were saying,isst Lv it.
14:18It's a good story.
14:20It's a good story.
14:21I was told to repair Eriya as a news squander on Fuji TV.
14:23Oh, so you were totally fine with that?
14:26Well, that's probably because it's a two-day Kyoto tournament.
14:29But the staff is very playful.
14:30They are playful.
14:31Yeah.
14:32I think you should try that, too, Mr. Oda.
14:34What?
14:35You're so good at this.
14:36You can go, like, OI!
14:38And everyone will be like, Oh, Mr. Oda.
14:39And you'll be like, Oh, Mr. Oda.
14:40And everyone will be like, Oh, Mr. Oda.
14:41And you'll be like, Oh, Mr. Oda.
14:42No, no.
14:43I'll never work again.
14:44If I do that.
14:45I'll never work again.
14:46So, you should try it at the rabbit.
14:47No, no.
14:48I'll never work again.
14:49I'll never work again.
14:50I'll never work again.
14:51It's heavy, isn't it?
14:52When something is hard, when you try that
14:54everyone also ends up chasing after it.
14:55Yes, of course.
14:56Every time you do that.
14:57I'm always attracting the fans,
14:59but when you try that, it's a no-brainer.
15:02Use those four letters at the end.
15:03Really?
15:06What is this for, honestly?
15:09Because you really can't connect the book to anything!
15:12Have you ever collided this before?
15:14Because you really can't connect the book to anything!
15:15Because you really can't connect the book to anything!
15:16You never can!
15:17You didn't give me any conviction, and I didn't even think about that!
15:18You threw directly to me like this
15:19That's not what I'm talking about.
15:21I'm not throwing away my lines.
15:23I'm just saying what's important.
15:25I'm just kidding.
15:27You'll never be called that again.
15:29Of course not.
15:31How did you become an MC?
15:33At first, you were just a panelist.
15:37How did you become an MC?
15:39I think there were some steps.
15:43But I didn't really want to be a host.
15:47I started out as a singer.
15:49But I couldn't sing well.
15:51So I went to an acting school.
15:53But I couldn't act well.
15:55So I decided to be a comedian.
15:57I formed a team,
15:59and I debuted.
16:01I was on a show called Kosaka Ikata.
16:03I was on a show called Kosaka Ikata.
16:05I was on a show called Kosaka Ikata.
16:07But I couldn't do well as a comedian.
16:09But I couldn't do well as a comedian.
16:11The times have changed.
16:13The third generation,
16:15The third generation,
16:17the third year would be a long time passed.
16:19I think my team was a bit old.
16:21I think my team was a bit old.
16:23I think my team was a bit old.
16:25Because of the changing times,
16:27we were able to work together.
16:29We had different goals.
16:31Ikata wanted to become an artist.
16:33So I decided to become a comedian.
16:35So I decided to become a comedian.
16:37I worked as a panelist.
16:39Then I told him to go to shooting.
16:41Then I told him to go to shooting.
16:43We were asked to do PR in the studio, and then we were asked to be assistants, and we got more and more of that.
16:51I did it with Matsumoto-san.
16:53Daisuki.
16:55I think he's 25 years old.
16:57Wow!
16:59In that sense, we, Matsumoto-san, Nao-chan, and I, we all became part of Bunki Ten.
17:06Daisuki, how long were you on probation?
17:08How long were you on probation?
17:10About two years.
17:12Two years.
17:14That incident was broadcast only in Tokyo.
17:19It wasn't nationwide.
17:21The staff in Osaka didn't know.
17:23They didn't see it in real time.
17:25They didn't have any information.
17:27They said they didn't need it.
17:29They said they were being pushed around.
17:31So we were called to Osaka.
17:36I was on the late-night show Yantan.
17:39I was on a show called Young Brother with Shinsuke-san.
17:44Matsumoto-san was also with Shinsuke-san.
17:46That's right. I was an assistant at the beginning.
17:49That was the year High Heel debuted.
17:51That was the year High Heel debuted.
17:54We did a lot of variety shows together with comedians in Osaka.
18:01I was taught by Kansai seniors.
18:04Shinsuke-san was like that too.
18:06I see.
18:07San Shisho.
18:09I was taught by Kansai seniors.
18:16How to get through.
18:18Shinsuke-san is a person who analyzes everything.
18:22He collects all the data.
18:25When we were doing Panera, we were drinking.
18:29I was about 20 years old and Shinsuke-san was in his early 30s.
18:35When we were drinking, he said,
18:38Do you know who will be my rival in the future?
18:42That's a funny story.
18:44Who is it, Shinsuke-san?
18:46Is it Sanma-san?
18:48We were in the same generation.
18:50He said, I can't win if I do it with Sanma.
18:53Shinsuke-san is funny.
18:55Sanma-san is funny.
18:56I don't think it's funny if I don't lose.
18:59If I talk about the same thing, I lose.
19:01Because Sanma has a nose and I don't.
19:05So I don't compete with Sanma.
19:08Because I have something different.
19:10If I talk about the same thing, I lose.
19:12So who will be my rival?
19:14When I heard that,
19:16FURUTACHI ICHIRO will be my rival.
19:22At that time, FURUTACHI ICHIRO was still free.
19:26FURUTACHI ICHIRO was very popular in pro-wrestling.
19:29After that, FURUTACHI ICHIRO was on the news.
19:32At that time, no one imagined that FURUTACHI ICHIRO would be my rival.
19:35But eventually, SHINSUKE-SAN was also on the news.
19:38FURUTACHI ICHIRO became my rival.
19:40SHINSUKE-SAN was on Japanese TV.
19:42FURUTACHI ICHIRO was on TV ASAHI.
19:44FURUTACHI ICHIRO's day will come.
19:46Did you see it?
19:48When I saw it,
19:50I said, I heard this story.
19:54It was about 20 years later.
19:57That day will come.
19:59I didn't know that.
20:01SHINSUKE-SAN's story is funny.
20:05I don't like to make such a joke.
20:07This is a joke.
20:09This is a joke.
20:11This is a true story.
20:13At first glance, I can't see anything.
20:17This is a joke.
20:19This is a funny joke.
20:21There are many stories.
20:24There is a calculation.
20:26There are many stories.
20:28I realized.
20:30I realized that such a person is also thinking.
20:32I realized that such a person is also thinking.
20:34It is great to see such a person.
20:36It's great, isn't it?
20:38I went to TAKASHI-SAN's house.
20:40I saw that he was talking nonsense.
20:42When I got home, there were six or seven TVs.
20:44I had them installed at the same time.
20:46Elvira?
20:47Yes, Elvira.
20:48The Death Note.
20:49I watched all of them.
20:50I watched all of them and compared what they were doing in my show and in the other shows.
20:55That's tough.
20:56I did what they didn't do.
20:58That's tough.
20:59I didn't lose.
21:00You didn't do anything.
21:01No, no, no.
21:02We should have watched more.
21:05We shouldn't be so anxious right now.
21:07No, no, no.
21:09Matsumoto-san, to be honest, had a great talent.
21:15Of course.
21:16When he was 16 or 17 years old.
21:18When it comes to music, we can't play the piano unless we can read the score.
21:25We can't even make sounds.
21:28But Matsumoto-san can definitely play the piano.
21:31Once he gives us the score, we can play it in one go.
21:34Matsumoto-san can also play the piano for other artists.
21:40That's amazing.
21:41Because we have free time.
21:42Because we have free time.
21:43Because we have free time.
21:44Because we have free time.
21:45Because we have free time.
21:46Because we have free time.
21:47When you have free time, didn't Ryo kick you out?
21:50No, no, no.
21:51I was there until I was kicked out.
21:55I thought I shouldn't go out anymore.
21:58I don't know what to do.
22:00How long did you live there?
22:02Five and a half years.
22:04That's a long time.
22:05In the end, Matsumoto-san and Ryo were the only dogs I had.
22:09Really.
22:10Matsumoto-san and Ryo were the only dogs I had.
22:12All the idols and comedians were there.
22:14All of them were there.
22:15All of them were there.
22:16But five and a half years is a long time.
22:19It was that kind of time.
22:20When I came in, everyone was like this.
22:22It was popular.
22:23It was popular.
22:24But five and a half years is nothing.
22:28We were already...
22:29It took me 19 years to get a job.
22:36That's amazing.
22:37You did a lot.
22:38I'm a special kind of comedian.
22:41I was about to go out.
22:44I missed the chance.
22:48It was 19 years.
22:50I didn't have a chance.
22:52I didn't have a chance.
22:54You didn't invite me.
22:56I didn't have a chance.
22:58What do you know?
23:00What do you know?
23:01Did you see everything I was in?
23:03You might have seen it.
23:05I'm not saying that.
23:06You were 19 years old without touching anything.
23:08I'm not saying that.
23:09Did you see everything?
23:11Did you check everything?
23:13There was a time when you missed it.
23:14Was there anything?
23:15There was R-1.
23:17I went to the R-1 final.
23:20But...
23:21But there was nothing.
23:23Did you get a scratch?
23:25No.
23:26But you still have a chance.
23:28It's a chance.
23:30If you win, you'll get a scratch.
23:34But...
23:35No?
23:36You don't have to, right?
23:37You don't have to, right?
23:42You don't have to, right?
23:43Thank you very much.
23:44You don't have to, right?
23:45Really.
23:46You don't have to, right?
23:47We make fun of our seniors.
23:49But we can't make fun of the essence.
23:52You don't have to, right?
23:53You don't have to, right?
23:55I thought my pride was in the way.
23:58There's no way there's nothing.
24:00That's right.
24:01There's nothing.
24:02I know.
24:03There's nothing.
24:04For now, there's nothing.
24:05That's right.
24:06It's difficult.
24:07It's difficult.
24:09The story of the big-name host and the story of Taibaru.
24:13You really can't let your guard down.
24:16There was a time when I helped move with Seiya of Shimofuri Myojo.
24:21There was a time when I helped move with Seiya of Shimofuri Myojo.
24:25We are good friends now.
24:27Hideo, please tell us the topics you are curious about.
24:31A Kansai person who loves TV wants Mr. Heisei TV talent, Edogi Nakayama, to answer.
24:38That's right.
24:39What is this?
24:40Hideo, can you show us a little bit of VTR?
24:45You don't have to, right?
24:47That's right.
24:48Where is that VTR?
24:51A Kansai person who loves TV wants Mr. Heisei TV talent, Edogi Nakayama, to answer.
25:01In the 39th year of the Heisei era, Mr. Heisei TV talent, Edogi Nakayama, who knew everything about TV,
25:09was asked by a Kansai person who loves TV.
25:15First of all, these four people have been watching TV since the debut of Mr. Heisei.
25:21What is your impression of Mr. Heisei?
25:24He is a good person.
25:25That's right.
25:26He is a kind person.
25:29He was an idol.
25:31That's right.
25:32He was an idol.
25:33He thought he was an idol.
25:34He was an idol who sang and danced.
25:36That's right.
25:37You were watching TV at that time, weren't you?
25:38Yes, I was.
25:39But now you don't watch TV at all, do you?
25:41I have a good impression of him when he sings and dances like this.
25:46Is that so?
25:47He has a kind face.
25:49He is kind.
25:50He has a sense of family.
25:52He is self-reliant.
25:54He has a lot of feelings.
25:55I'm glad to hear that.
25:56That's great.
25:59That's great.
26:00He has a lot of feelings.
26:01Is there anything you want to ask?
26:03Yes, there is.
26:05Is there any celebrity you don't like?
26:12I don't think he gets angry at all.
26:15He doesn't get angry at all.
26:18I'm very interested in what kind of person he doesn't like.
26:24I don't think he gets angry at all.
26:25I don't think he gets angry at all.
26:27I don't think he gets angry at all.
26:28He is definitely angry at home.
26:29I'd like to ask him that, too.
26:31Does he get angry at home?
26:33He gets angry at his wife and children.
26:35Hello, Hide.
26:36I always watch your videos.
26:38I heard that you like Gunma very much.
26:41Yes, I love Gunma.
26:42You love Gunma, don't you?
26:43Yes, I do.
26:44You don't like Kansai that much, do you?
26:47No, I don't.
26:48I love Kansai.
26:50But I like Gunma the most.
26:52I'm from Gunma.
26:54Is there anything you like about Kansai?
26:57I like Gunma and Kanto the most.
27:00Please come to Kansai.
27:03I'm glad to hear that.
27:05Next, let's talk to his father.
27:08What are you drinking?
27:09Mr. Hide, what do you like to eat in Osaka?
27:14Osaka is famous for Okonomiyaki.
27:19But I like Dashi-maki.
27:23Next, we asked a teenager what he thinks of Hide.
27:28Mr. Hide, what do you think of Hide?
27:31I like him.
27:32I like him.
27:34I watch your videos.
27:38Do you watch my videos every week?
27:42Have you ever failed to drink alcohol?
27:46I think she has.
27:47I used to drink a lot when I was young.
27:52You look like a drunkard.
27:54Yes, I do.
27:55You look like a drunkard.
27:59You look like a drunkard.
28:02Yes, I do.
28:03I think I look like a drunkard.
28:08This man has a deep question.
28:11What is it?
28:12You were on a TV show called Daisuki.
28:15You were on a show called Daisuki.
28:23Didn't you go out with either of them?
28:25Both of them are cute.
28:28I think it's normal for them to go out with each other.
28:33What do you think, Mr. Hide?
28:35I think it's Naoko Iijima.
28:40She is my type.
28:44Akiko Matsumoto is in the studio.
28:47I like Akiko Matsumoto.
28:54What do you think of Mr. Hide?
28:56I used to watch his videos.
29:00I watched his videos a lot.
29:03Were you a fan of him?
29:05I was a fan of him.
29:06I like his face.
29:09I thought he was cool.
29:12I watched his videos.
29:18I thought he was cool.
29:22She is a big fan of Mr. Hide.
29:25What does she want to know?
29:27You are very successful now.
29:31How much money did you make in the past century?
29:37I don't know.
29:3915 million yen.
29:4215 million yen.
29:45I don't want him to make 15 million yen.
29:48I want him to make 30 million yen.
29:52I want him to make a lot of money.
29:57I want to make a lot of money.
30:03I want him to make a lot of money.
30:06A lot of questions came out.
30:10A lot of questions came out.
30:12Mr. Hide, please answer them.
30:15Let's answer all the questions.
30:18I'm glad to hear that.
30:21I think of him as a Kansai person.
30:24I think of him as a Tokyo talent.
30:29I think it's rare to have such a high sensitivity.
30:32I don't think there are many Kansai people.
30:36A lot of questions came out.
30:39I'm curious about this.
30:43I don't think there are many NG entertainers.
30:46I like NG entertainers.
30:50I see.
30:52I heard that you are in touch with NG entertainers.
30:55I don't think there are many NG entertainers.
31:00I don't hate NG entertainers.
31:03I like Sawajiri.
31:06This is a live broadcast.
31:09What is your weak point?
31:14This is very interesting.
31:20When Hide interviewed Sawajiri, it was like hell.
31:28Is this a live broadcast?
31:31We have talked to each other.
31:34We have talked to each other.
31:37But that doesn't happen.
31:40Why does it happen only to me?
31:43I was on TV when I woke up that morning.
31:46After that, I was on TV in Japan.
31:49Was it normal when you woke up?
31:51I was on TV normally.
31:53After that, I was on TV.
31:55It's like a movie.
31:57I have an image.
31:59I was on TV a lot.
32:02I don't know what to do.
32:05You don't have an image.
32:08There were 10 questions that I could ask.
32:11Other than that, I was on NG.
32:14I was on Japanese TV.
32:16I didn't ask what I shouldn't ask.
32:19I only asked what was OK.
32:21Among them, I asked what my weak point was.
32:24I asked my weak point.
32:26What is my weak point?
32:28It's a talk show.
32:30It's not a talk show to ask a weak point.
32:33I said I wouldn't say it even if I had a weak point.
32:36He said he wouldn't say it even if he had a weak point.
32:38It's a funny story.
32:40It's more difficult than not having a weak point.
32:43He said he wouldn't say it even if he had a weak point.
32:46I felt like that at that time.
32:48The next day, I became a different person.
32:51Is that so?
32:53The next day, I was interviewed as a different person.
32:56That's before you became a different person.
32:58The day before I became a different person.
33:01That's amazing.
33:03That's a strange way of saying it.
33:05He said I was a different person at that time.
33:07Ten years later, I became a different person.
33:10I became a different person.
33:12I became an adult.
33:14He said he became a different person at that time.
33:18I don't have a weak point.
33:20At that time, you didn't say what your weak point was.
33:27I could do both.
33:29I didn't have a weak point.
33:31I thought I could scold him.
33:33You were arrogant.
33:34I thought I didn't have a weak point.
33:36You thought you should scold him.
33:38I thought I should scold him.
33:40I thought I shouldn't do that.
33:42I thought I should tell him to stop.
33:44I knew him when I was a kid.
33:46He was on HIPPARI.
33:48He was on HIPPARI.
33:50I was on HIPPARI, too.
33:52I saw it.
33:54I saw it.
33:56He was on HIPPARI when he was 16 years old.
33:59He was on HIPPARI with Becky.
34:01He was on HIPPARI when he was a kid.
34:03I knew him at that time.
34:05You knew him well.
34:08I knew him well.
34:11He said he was a different person at that time.
34:13He said he was a different person at that time.
34:15I thought he was motivated.
34:19I was scared.
34:21I investigated it in advance.
34:24Did you have a sense of inferiority to Kansai entertainers at that time?
34:29Your teacher was nice.
34:33I'm talking about my generation.
34:35I'm talking about my generation.
34:43The third generation didn't get involved.
34:46In the case of Downtown.
34:48In the case of Downtown.
34:50Ima and Higashino were with him.
34:52I'm sorry to say this, but this was during the Bachi-Bachi era.
34:54Bachi-Bachi.
34:55The era of the lord's bath, right?
34:56Yes.
34:57This is a live broadcast, so it's Bachi-Bachi.
34:58Eh?
34:59Why is it always live?
35:01Why is it always live?
35:02Don't overdo it.
35:03It's better to praise it.
35:04Don't overdo it.
35:04I was the 14th regular.
35:07Wow!
35:08When I did it with Ima-chan.
35:09And Ima-chan was the 1st.
35:10Wow!
35:11Tokyo's.
35:11Well, the feelings are a little...
35:13It's completely different.
35:14I'm serious.
35:15Because I decide on the joints.
35:17Even if I swing the rope, it won't come back.
35:20You're serious.
35:21You're serious.
35:22It's a game of jokes.
35:23It's a game of jokes.
35:24Who's the funniest?
35:25It's like, I can't laugh anymore.
35:28The dressing room is dark before it starts.
35:30Eh?
35:31Ima-chan.
35:32Is it a mental unification?
35:33I'm doing shadow.
35:34Eh?
35:34Shadow?
35:35It's a real fight.
35:37It's different from what I expected.
35:38It's not a real fight.
35:40Stable.
35:41Shush! Shush! Shush!
35:42I don't want that kind of thing in the dressing room.
35:44It's a little scary.
35:46That's the real thing.
35:47If something happens, it will come.
35:49In the amazing era, there was Nainai.
35:52There was Gokuraku Tonbo.
35:53There was Yoiko.
35:54Later, there was a member who was really good.
35:56Everyone said, I'm the next next.
36:01I don't want to do that kind of variety show ever again.
36:05The only one who is not good at it.
36:07That's right.
36:08Ima-chan at that time.
36:10I was nervous.
36:11Ima-chan when I was nervous.
36:13Later, when we drank together and talked about it,
36:15I was already old.
36:17We were able to respond to each other.
36:19Ima-chan at that time was not good at it.
36:21Wow.
36:23Matsumoto-san, when you were nervous,
36:28Did you do it with other celebrities?
36:30That's right.
36:31But when I was an idol,
36:33At that time, I was nervous.
36:37At that time, I was alone.
36:41There are a lot of groups now.
36:44Everyone was nervous.
36:45That's right.
36:46I was nervous.
36:48Did you hide your shoes?
36:50No, no.
36:51I'm a fan of Horikoshi Gakuen.
36:54I was a classmate of Horichi Emi-chan.
36:58There are a lot of fans in the school.
37:02I stole the idol goods.
37:07After school,
37:09I stole the idol goods from the store.
37:12I did it on my own.
37:14Did you steal the idol goods?
37:15Matsumoto-san, did you steal the idol goods?
37:17No, I didn't.
37:18I have always.
37:20I stole the idol goods.
37:23I stole the idol goods.
37:25You didn't ask someone to do it?
37:27I did it on my own.
37:29I don't understand that.
37:32I don't understand what you mean by doing it on your own.
37:34I think it's scarier than stealing the idol goods.
37:37I understand why you do it on your own.
37:42I don't understand what you mean by doing it on your own.
37:45I made my debut with the birth of a star.
37:48At that time, Watanabe Productions didn't make a debut with the birth of a star.
37:52At that time, there was a secret room with Japanese TV.
37:55At that time, Japanese TV withdrew completely.
37:58Watanabe Productions didn't make a debut with Japanese TV.
38:01Watanabe Productions also made a singing program.
38:05Watanabe Productions also made a singing program.
38:08Japanese TV also made a singing program, but Japanese TV withdrew from the song.
38:13Japanese TV withdrew completely so that they couldn't make a debut with the song.
38:20Japanese TV withdrew completely, so that they couldn't make a debut with the song.
38:25Japanese TV withdrew.
38:28At that time, Sawada Kenji was the producer of Candies.
38:33Wow, that's amazing.
38:34The first production team fights against TV.
38:36That's an amazing battle.
38:38It's amazing, isn't it?
38:39It's been a few years since they withdrew.
38:42So, if there's no Watanabe Productions,
38:45we can make a star with our own hands.
38:47That's the starting point of Japanese TV.
38:49Wow.
38:50Other than Watanabe Productions,
38:53all the other productions will come.
38:54That includes Sanmiuki and Horipro.
38:57I see.
38:58With a placard.
38:59With a placard, a new agency will be established.
39:03Horipro will have Momoe.
39:05Sanmiuki will have Junko Sakurada.
39:08That's how it will be.
39:09However, Watanabe Productions will not participate.
39:12That's when the era of Watanabe Productions will change.
39:15There were many things.
39:17In the first episode of Wakai,
39:20Watanabe Productions will appear with a placard for the birth of a star.
39:24Wow.
39:25When Watanabe Productions went to Wakai,
39:28Aiko Matsumoto was the one who gave a placard to Watanabe Productions.
39:31What?
39:33That's amazing.
39:34That's amazing.
39:35Wakai's first episode.
39:36Wakai's first episode.
39:39Wakai's first episode.
39:40Wakai's first episode.
39:41Wow.
39:42You were rejected right away.
39:45That's impossible.
39:47It's a big mistake.
39:49You betrayed us.
39:50You betrayed us.
39:51You should have gone.
39:52You should have sent someone.
39:55You should have sent someone.
39:57Wakai will appear on Japanese TV.
39:59After that, Matsumoto will appear on Japanese TV.
40:02That's right.
40:03Denpa Shounen.
40:04Denpa Shounen.
40:05That's what he said.
40:06He will appear on TV again.
40:08It's a few years later.
40:09So, it's not a mistake.
40:12That's right.
40:13That's amazing.
40:14That's right.
40:15I want to talk for two more hours.
40:16You don't know me.
40:18He is an unknown entertainer.
40:19He has a can of beer and a can of Chuhai.
40:22If you want to talk about this, you can talk as much as you want.
40:25If you want to talk about this, you can talk as much as you want.
40:27Mr. Oda, what do you think? There are a lot of questions that I want to ask.
40:30Excuse me, but I don't know much about Saikou Nenshu.
40:36What do you think about it?
40:39I think I spent most of my money on drinking.
40:43You said that.
40:45Before that, I had a party in the garden.
40:50I had a party in the garden once.
40:53I had a party with 40 to 50 people every time.
40:55How much did you spend on drinking every night?
40:59That's a hint.
41:01I spent 3 million yen in one night.
41:05I don't think you spent that much.
41:09How much did you spend?
41:12I want to hear Matsumoto's guess.
41:15Matsumoto's guess is correct.
41:24HIDE's Saikou Nenshu was about 4 million yen.
41:28Matsumoto's guess is correct.
41:33I didn't talk about money.
41:36I didn't talk about money.
41:38I just imagined it.
41:40At that time, we were very fortunate to have a variety show.
41:47It was good.
41:49Until then, all the talent in our agency was paid.
41:55However, as long as it was a variety show, the leader of the variety show was paid.
42:07I was paid when I was young.
42:09I was paid for the first time in my agency.
42:13I was the first.
42:16I was a newcomer.
42:18I was 17 years old.
42:22I had the most money.
42:25If I put money in my room, everyone would take it.
42:29What is that?
42:31It disappears from the beginning.
42:33It's a joke.
42:36It's a robbery.
42:38It's a joke.
42:40Everyone had my key.
42:42I borrowed it.
42:44That's not the reason why HIDE was drunk.
42:47Is it because of money?
42:49SHIMURA is drunk.
42:55I'm listening to Matsumoto's guess.
42:59I'm relieved.
43:01I'm relieved.
43:03How many can he drink?
43:09I think he can drink three cans.
43:12Three cans.
43:14Three cans of alcohol is a very big amount.
43:16This is our agency.
43:17I think he can drink three cans.
43:19That's not possible.
43:20It's hard to drink three cans.
43:21It's hard to drink.
43:22I can't drink.
43:23I can't drink.
43:25If you drink three cans, you're friends with him for a long time.
43:29It's because I'm underestimating you.
43:30That's not the case.
43:32I think it's Hachioji.
43:34Hachioji!
43:36I want to go there!
43:38I don't know. I really don't know.
43:40Matsumoto-san also
43:42broke the ban
43:44and became a member of
43:46the Variety Club.
43:50Matsumoto-san was amazing.
43:52No, no, that's not true.
43:54Matsumoto-san was amazing.
43:56Hide-san, tell us your prediction.
43:58Hide-san and Matsumoto-san
44:00Matsumoto-san
44:02didn't spend any money
44:04until now.
44:06He was a saver.
44:08He even wrote a book.
44:10Yes, he did.
44:12He saved money and saved money
44:14and won a lottery ticket
44:16in his early 20s.
44:18That's a lot.
44:20And he's still saving money.
44:22How much money does
44:24Matsumoto-san have now?
44:26200 million yen.
44:28200 million yen.
44:30To be continued.
44:58I made a dish.
45:00That's too much.