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00:00Mr. Kawabayashi, today's guests are a bit different from usual.
00:03Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
00:06It's the first time for these people to come to our show.
00:09Yeah, it's the first time for us to have this many guests.
00:13Thank you for having us.
00:14Please, please.
00:15We're waiting for you.
00:19Thank you for having us.
00:21Thank you for having us.
00:22Yes, today's guests are former top athletes who served as commentators and casters.
00:30Thank you for having us.
00:31Thank you for having us.
00:33Tonight's guests are...
00:36The first Asian to win three Olympic gold medals.
00:43The judo legend, Mr. Tadahiro Nomura.
00:48One more point to go! Match point!
00:51Table tennis, singles in the All Japan Championships.
00:54He has won ten times in the history of table tennis.
00:59Tokyo Olympic gold medalist, Mr. Jun Mizutani.
01:04And...
01:07He won the J-League Best Eleven three times.
01:12His play style is full of fighting spirit.
01:15He played a key role in his defense.
01:19Former Japanese soccer player, Mr. Tomouchi Maki.
01:24He led Kinomaru during his career.
01:29Now, he serves as a commentator and a caster.
01:33These are the three former top athletes.
01:36What a cheeky guy he is in the interview.
01:40He's trying to appeal to the referee.
01:44What do you think of that?
01:46Do you think so?
01:48Top athletes' passion for table tennis is exploding.
01:52And...
01:54I'm not just talking about the J-League.
01:56I'm not just talking about the J-League.
01:59The interviewer, Mr. Kuro, has just found out about the J-League after his retirement.
02:03I want him to be naked.
02:06Who would do that?
02:08Mr. Mizutani wouldn't do that.
02:13Naked talk variety, Achikoji Odori.
02:17Let's get started.
02:20I can't believe it.
02:24First of all, Mr. Nomura.
02:27He won three gold medals in a row in the Olympics.
02:33He didn't participate in the Olympics in a row.
02:36Of course, but he's been doing his best all the time.
02:40He's been doing his best all the time, but sometimes he loses.
02:45He definitely won the matches that he had to win.
02:48He definitely won the matches that he had to win.
02:51Is there a different way of winning?
02:54Is there a different way of winning?
02:57When it's important to win, you have to think about how to do it.
03:01It's like a real-life player saying,
03:03It's like a real-life player saying,
03:06I can't do this.
03:08I can't do this.
03:10I can't do this.
03:13I don't know how he plays like this.
03:18I don't have a way to win if I do this.
03:20I was so scared the day before the match that I couldn't sleep.
03:24I was so scared the day before the match that I couldn't sleep.
03:27I was so scared the day before the match that I couldn't sleep.
03:28The first, the second, and the third matches.
03:31Even regional matches, I was so afraid the day before the match hat I couldn't sleep.
03:36I can only sleep for three more hours.
03:38I'm sorry, but I'll cancel the hall tomorrow.
03:41That's what I think.
03:42I see.
03:42The matches don't go as planned.
03:44That's right.
03:45Even though we're doing it for that day,
03:47the matches are so scary.
03:48Makino-san, isn't there an important match
03:51that happens throughout the season?
03:54Is it the same for every match?
03:56I'm the exact opposite of what you said.
04:00I can't help but want to do it.
04:02No matter how big the stage is.
04:03No matter how big the stage is.
04:05I think it's a festival.
04:06The World Cup.
04:07I wonder if that's the case.
04:08I want to do it quickly.
04:09You want to do it quickly.
04:10I want to do it with a strong opponent.
04:11I can't help it.
04:12Mizutani-san, what kind of person are you before a match?
04:16I'm the same as Nomura-san.
04:18I'm a pretty negative person.
04:20I don't really want to play.
04:21Is that so?
04:22No, I'm already...
04:24I was born that way.
04:25It's amazing.
04:26He's been playing for 10 years.
04:2710 years.
04:28He's been playing a lot.
04:29I feel like I can win if I play.
04:30When I see a positive person like Makino-san,
04:33I feel like I can relax.
04:35It's not relaxing.
04:36I want to do it like this.
04:37It's not relaxing.
04:38I know it's not relaxing.
04:39I want to do it like this.
04:42I want to go to the match with a bright feeling.
04:44I envy you.
04:45But the people who are watching...
04:46All the players who play in the Olympics...
04:49I think they're all very strong mentally.
04:52That's a little surprising.
04:54I really want to retire without a match.
04:57I don't want to lose to anyone.
05:00Oh, I see.
05:01But on the contrary, I think so.
05:03I'm strong because I'm winning.
05:05That's right.
05:06I want to win even if I lose.
05:09I want to win even if I lose.
05:11That's amazing.
05:12That's amazing.
05:13By the way, you two are getting closer and closer to the match time.
05:17Where are you going to go?
05:27Judo is a day-to-day weight loss.
05:29We do it on the day of the match.
05:31If you go to a weight-loss venue, there are many rivals.
05:36Everyone is on a diet.
05:38Everyone is on a diet.
05:40But foreigners look so strong.
05:42But foreigners look so strong.
05:44I want you all to fail in weight loss.
05:46I want you all to fail in weight loss.
05:48I think so.
05:50I feel like I'm losing.
05:52I'm scared.
05:54I'm scared.
05:56But I'm going to win just before I go up on the tatami.
06:00But I'm going to win just before I go up on the tatami.
06:02If I lose, I'm going to lose.
06:04If I lose, I'm going to lose.
06:06But I'm going to win.
06:08I can do all that first time.
06:12If I win 1-2 times,
06:14If I win 1-2 times,
06:16If I win 1-2 times,
06:18I know I can sleeped that time.
06:20I can sleeped that time.
06:22I didn't sleep there.
06:24Did you sleep there?
06:26When I first joined the agency, I was in the first, second, third, and fourth stage.
06:32Hanawa-san, Haraguchi-san, and Akimoto-san were sleeping in between the first and second stages.
06:36I woke up just before my turn, got out of bed, and won the grand prize.
06:39It was so cool!
06:41That's a different level. It was the Olympics.
06:44It's embarrassing to compare it to the agency live.
06:47I woke up just before Haraguchi-san, got out of bed, and won the grand prize.
06:52That's a different level. It's embarrassing to compare it to the agency live.
06:55It's embarrassing to compare it to the Olympics.
06:57I was shining.
07:00Mizutani-san, where did you switch?
07:03It was the same until I couldn't sleep.
07:06I thought I was a different person.
07:09I couldn't sleep during the London Olympics.
07:12I had to drink alcohol to sleep.
07:14I drank alcohol and slept.
07:16The result was bad.
07:18I thought I should quit.
07:20I was stuck in bed.
07:22I couldn't sleep.
07:24I couldn't sleep for a month during the camp.
07:27I was so nervous.
07:30When you have a good day and a bad day, do you realize how light your body is?
07:38It's not about the mental part.
07:40Sports is about the mental part.
07:43I feel like I'm broken.
07:46When it's a big game.
07:48Do you train yourself to be better?
07:52It's about experience.
07:54If you have a lot of experience, you'll get stronger mentally.
07:57Recently, there was a mental trainer.
08:01There is.
08:03But mental trainers don't fight in the final stage of the Olympics.
08:07I don't know.
08:09I think it's a robot trainer.
08:11I think so, too.
08:13I think so, too.
08:15You don't know, do you?
08:17You have a little bit of a junk in your heart.
08:20That's right.
08:22It's on the desk at school.
08:24For example, you are positive.
08:26In the second half of the game, you have 10 minutes or 5 minutes left.
08:35Do you think you can win until the end?
08:39I think so.
08:41I've had that experience.
08:44There was a game like that.
08:46I scored two points and turned the game around.
08:50The most important thing in soccer is to relax when you open your mind.
08:55I don't know until the last 10 minutes.
08:58I won't give up until the whistle blows.
09:01I won't give up.
09:03Do you want to go to the P.K.?
09:05I want to go.
09:07There is a roulette in judo.
09:10If I was standing there, I would definitely say, come to me.
09:15I asked Nomura, how was the judo player at that time?
09:18He said he didn't like it.
09:20I don't like it at all.
09:22After all, he is a judo player.
09:25Have you ever seen four P.K.?
09:28Yes, I have.
09:29Do you think it's okay for me?
09:31The most important thing is the fifth P.K.
09:34Some people apply for the P.K.
09:37I applied for the P.K.
09:39I was told to calm down once.
09:44It's a different feeling.
09:46I want to go to the P.K.
09:51I was told to calm down once.
09:54I take a deep breath once.
09:57What do you do when you make a mistake?
10:00I have to control the opponent's ace in front of the goal.
10:04If I make a mistake in one play, I will lose 2 or 3 points.
10:08I have to make sure I don't make a mistake.
10:12You've been training for a long time.
10:14That's right. I've been training for a long time.
10:18What kind of training do you do?
10:22That's what Ohtani Shouhei did recently.
10:26What do you have to do to achieve your goal?
10:30There are many ways to train mentally.
10:34I used to pretend to deceive my brain.
10:39Do you talk to yourself?
10:41That's right. I pretend to deceive myself.
10:46I was told to take a deep breath.
10:49When I saw that, I realized that athletes take a deep breath before a big game.
10:55Do you take a deep breath before the P.K.?
10:57Yes, I do.
10:58We should take a deep breath after the game.
11:03It's too late to take a deep breath after the game.
11:06It's too late to take a deep breath before the game.
11:08It's too late to take a deep breath before the game.
11:10The tempo is getting worse.
11:12Wait a minute, Mr. Sanma.
11:14He's going to slip.
11:19It's important to be more confident than your opponent.
11:25It's very important to be confident.
11:27Table tennis players are very confident.
11:30Table tennis players are very nervous, aren't they?
11:33It's a very quiet place.
11:36Even if I go to a hot spring, I get nervous at the match point.
11:40I get nervous when I want to win.
11:44It's very nervous.
11:46It's a game that changes by a few millimeters.
11:50When I hit the net, I apologize.
11:54What do you apologize for?
11:56It's a matter of manners.
11:58It's a matter of manners.
12:00It's a game.
12:03Do you really think you're sorry?
12:05I don't think so.
12:07I think it's okay.
12:08For example, when my opponent misses a service, I apologize.
12:14I'm sorry, but I can't believe you two.
12:17I'm sorry if you're saying that after you score a point.
12:23I'm sure it's different.
12:25It's a matter of culture.
12:27I can't believe you're a soccer player.
12:29Don't you appeal to the referee that you're a foul?
12:33What do you think?
12:36It's a tackle.
12:38It's not fair.
12:40During the game, you can't relax for 0.01 seconds.
12:47Can't you concentrate from the beginning to the end of the game?
12:53I shake my body when I go back to the starting line.
13:00It's a series of aerobic exercises.
13:04I'm concentrating all the time.
13:07I don't look at my opponent's body.
13:09I don't look at his eyes, arms, or legs.
13:13It's a close distance, but I look at the whole thing.
13:18That's amazing.
13:20You said you were Tsunoda this time.
13:22Tsunoda is good at throwing Tomoe.
13:25But you can throw Tomoe.
13:27If you're good at throwing Tomoe, you should be careful.
13:31Why is that?
13:32I'll explain it to you.
13:35Tsunoda is a 52kg athlete.
13:37He has a Japanese rival.
13:39He dropped him to 48kg.
13:41He doesn't drop his weight.
13:44After he dropped his weight, he threw Tomoe three times.
13:47He threw Tomoe almost every time.
13:49He threw Tomoe at the Paralympics.
13:52The stronger you get, the more variations you get.
13:56Tsunoda always throws Tomoe.
13:59Why?
14:01Please explain.
14:03I don't know the answer.
14:05I don't know.
14:07Why?
14:09I see.
14:11That's how good Tsunoda is.
14:13Many athletes who have been thrown by Tsunoda watch the video and think about how to deal with it.
14:19Of course, Tsunoda can throw Tomoe in many ways.
14:25That's amazing.
14:27Even if Tsunoda fails to throw Tomoe, he can connect it to his next joint technique.
14:32He can throw Tomoe and then throw Tomoe.
14:36He can throw Tomoe in this way, but there are many variations.
14:39I see.
14:41Nobunaga-san is really tired now.
14:46When I asked him why he decided to throw Tomoe, he said,
14:49I can't say why.
14:52Tsunoda-san said,
14:55I can't say why.
14:57Nobunaga-san said,
14:59I can't say why.
15:01It's amazing.
15:03Mizutani-san, when you commentate,
15:06is there anything you can't answer?
15:09You've had a lot of experiences.
15:11Now, as commentators and casters,
15:14these three have been dragged to various places.
15:19What about Kuno, who didn't understand during his time as a commentator?
15:23There are times when the question itself is out of place.
15:27For example, when a commentator asks for an emphasis on something completely different.
15:32In such a case, I'm the type to match it.
15:34I can't deny it.
15:36I can't say, no, that's wrong.
15:38I can't say, no, that's wrong.
15:40I can't say, no, that's wrong.
15:42When a commentator asks a question that's out of place,
15:46I can't say, no, that's wrong.
15:48There are a lot of difficult techniques, right?
15:51There's a famous technique called Chiquita.
15:53Yes, yes, something like that.
15:55It's like, you just have to say Chiquita.
15:57I know what you mean.
15:59It's Chiquita, but it's very important.
16:02I think there are a lot of Chiquita.
16:05That's what I remember.
16:07You can say Chiquita for something completely different,
16:10but you can't say, no, that's Chiquita.
16:13From our point of view, it's Chiquita.
16:15It's 100% Chiquita.
16:17If the viewers say Chiquita, they'll think it's Chiquita,
16:20so I'll say it's Chiquita.
16:22That's my style of commentary.
16:24For example, on social media,
16:26if you're told you don't know Chiquita,
16:28don't you think they know?
16:30I think so.
16:32There are a lot of people who don't know Chiquita.
16:36It means they know, right?
16:38Then my fans will help me a lot.
16:40Because they know.
16:42Just now Mizutani-san said,
16:45What I think is important in commentary
16:47is to have different opinions.
16:50So it's the opposite.
16:52Soccer doesn't have an answer,
16:54so there are opinions from the offense and defense,
16:56and sometimes they clash.
16:58So the back player thinks this way,
17:00but the front player thinks that way.
17:02I'll give them a lot of different plans.
17:04That's good.
17:06So when Honda and I do commentary,
17:08we can't help but argue.
17:11I think it's like this.
17:13I think it's like this.
17:15But the fans might not like it.
17:17They might not like it.
17:19It's fun to talk about sports.
17:23When you do commentary,
17:25there are a lot of people who do soccer commentary.
17:28There are a lot of people.
17:30There's a gap.
17:32If you decide to go with a character like this,
17:34it's like Matsuki-san,
17:36it's like Matsuki-san,
17:39There are people who do commentary in every moment.
17:43What I'm thinking now is
17:45drinking alcohol together in the living room
17:47and being watched as if they were eating.
17:49That's the kind of commentary I'm doing now.
17:51I see.
17:53It's not a very difficult specialty.
17:55That's right.
17:57Also, including content.
17:59If it's a ground-based channel,
18:01it's like this.
18:03If it's a soccer-specific channel,
18:05it's like this.
18:08Makino-san is doing things based on a plan.
18:12Do you have a plan like that?
18:14I do.
18:16Makino-san is going fast!
18:19He's serious about it.
18:20What kind of stance is that?
18:30I'm thinking about how
18:31I'm going to arrange it from the side.
18:33I'm thinking about how MC san's going to accomplish that.
18:35Really?
18:36Let's take a look at the system.
18:39So, like soccer, he's an auditioner.
18:42The MC is like this.
18:44Then, Makino's movement is like this.
18:46That's right.
18:47But I thought he was dribbling alone.
18:51That's right.
18:52I thought he was dribbling brightly.
18:54He dribbles a lot.
18:56He's just running.
18:57He dribbles a lot.
18:59He doesn't talk much, so I think I'll shake him a little.
19:03To be honest, soccer is very useful.
19:06That's right.
19:07That's why there are a lot of people behind the commentator.
19:11That's right.
19:12There are a lot of people behind the commentator.
19:17There are a lot of people behind the commentator.
19:19That's right.
19:20Matsuki-san is like that, too.
19:22Matsuki-san is also behind.
19:23Matsuki-san looks like a forward.
19:25That's right.
19:26But I can't keep my eyes away from judo.
19:30In other sports, there are a lot of things you want to say in a short time.
19:36Judo is really difficult.
19:38It's a moment.
19:39The rules change.
19:41Basically, there are 100 techniques in judo.
19:44There are 100 techniques in judo.
19:46Even if there is a technique you've never seen before,
19:49you have to apply it to the position when you enter the technique or throw the opponent.
19:55You have to have a sense of how to apply it.
19:58You have to have a sense of how to apply it.
20:00You have to apply it in an instant.
20:02Even if you enter the technique in the same way,
20:04the name of the technique changes depending on where you hold.
20:09I don't know that at all.
20:11I've heard a lot about it, but I haven't explained it much.
20:16You haven't explained it at all.
20:19You haven't explained it at all.
20:24Judo is a game that can't be helped.
20:28It's a game that's not fun to watch.
20:31You think there's something going on.
20:33You don't know anything.
20:35You have to get it together quickly.
20:37You have to apply the technique even if you get it together.
20:39When I ask the commentator,
20:41What's going on now?
20:43You can't say,
20:45What's going on now?
20:48So what do you do?
20:51So I don't explain much.
20:53You don't explain at all.
20:57The easiest way to practice Judo is to broadcast and explain.
21:00The easiest way to practice Judo is to broadcast and explain.
21:02The easiest way to practice Judo is to broadcast and explain.
21:06It's going to be easier to move.
21:08Your expectations are going to go down, so let's go down a bit.
21:11I hope you can explain it when you say it.
21:14That's my role.
21:16But what I understand is that in the first round of the World Table Tennis Tournament,
21:20there are so many levels that sometimes you can't lose 100 million percent.
21:24100 million percent?
21:26100 million percent. There are levels that I can't lose even if I play with my right hand.
21:30Isn't it difficult to explain that?
21:33I can't lose 100 percent, but I have to praise my opponent.
21:36I have to say that my opponent is very strong.
21:39You can't say that you'll win 100 million percent during the game.
21:43I have to say that my opponent is very strong.
21:46At that time, I'm lying.
21:49You're talking a lot.
21:51You shouldn't say that.
21:53That's right.
21:55I'm not good at this game.
21:57I'm not good at this game.
22:00What do you do, Makino?
22:02I'm definitely playing the final round of the Asian Championships.
22:05I'm definitely playing the final round of the Asian Championships.
22:08I'm definitely playing the final round of the Asian Championships.
22:11I don't want you to change your channel.
22:13I want you to write down all the players' gossip.
22:17What? Gossip?
22:19You don't say gossip, do you?
22:21You can write, like, buy a dog.
22:23You don't say gossip, do you?
22:25You can write, like, buy a dog.
22:27You can write your dog's name in Japanese.
22:29You can write your dog's name in Japanese.
22:31It's like Masuda Aken, in Marathon.
22:33It's an interesting pattern.
22:36There are some patterns like that.
22:38Makino-kun is the only one who can't change the commentator.
22:42That's true.
22:44It's just the two of us.
22:46Can you say that line again?
22:48Mizutani-san and Nomura-san, please step back.
22:52This is important.
22:54It's hard to ask, but how do you decide when to retire?
23:03The three top athletes have retired from their active careers.
23:12How did they decide to retire?
23:15Do you think about it as you get older?
23:19I've been thinking about it since I was in college because I had a very weak time.
23:24But after I entered college, I was able to jump.
23:28Did you have a weak time, Nomura-san?
23:30I've been doing judo since I was 3 years old, but I lost to a girl in a city tournament when I was in the first year of junior high school.
23:35I won the prefecture tournament for the first time in my senior year of high school, but I lost to a girl in the preliminary league in the national tournament.
23:44I couldn't win a single match in the national tournament.
23:46I've never heard of such a way of walking.
23:49You didn't have much experience in judo when you were 15 or 16 years old?
23:56No, I didn't.
23:57But I thought I would be able to do it someday.
24:03It's hard to say, but you were so weak for 15 years that you couldn't sleep at night.
24:12It's rude to say you're weak, but it's a story that comes to mind.
24:16What changed when you were a college student?
24:19When I was in the first year of junior high school, I weighed only 30 kg.
24:24When I was in the first year of high school, I weighed only 45 kg.
24:27I didn't give up and improved my skills.
24:32I was able to use my skills because I was in good shape.
24:35And when I met a coach, my consciousness changed.
24:38Suddenly, I became very strong.
24:40That's amazing.
24:41There are coaches, too.
24:43I was told that I was a genius because I had won the Olympics three times in a row.
24:48I was told that I didn't know how to lose.
24:51But I only knew how to lose.
24:53I've been doing judo for a long time since I won the Olympics.
24:55I won the Olympics three times in 2004.
24:57I was injured for about 10 years.
25:01I experienced a lot of things.
25:04Did you start thinking about your career because you were injured?
25:10Yes, I did.
25:11If I hadn't been injured, I would have won the Olympics four times in a row.
25:17Where does your motivation come from?
25:19You usually get a gold medal in the Olympics.
25:22I was in the first year of junior high school.
25:24I was too old to think about retirement.
25:27When I was in the second year of junior high school,
25:29everyone studied me for four years.
25:32I was happy to beat them all.
25:35I felt like I was the champion.
25:39Mr. Nomura, you know so much.
25:41Why don't you know the explanation?
25:43He is a man who has experienced everything.
25:46He knows how to fight.
25:50I don't know what I don't know.
25:53Mr. Mizutani, how did you decide?
25:56I wanted to retire because of my injury and eye disease.
26:01But I didn't want to retire anymore.
26:04You want to retire.
26:06When you know your past self, you can compare yourself with other young athletes.
26:11Middle school students don't know their past self.
26:14When they see themselves getting weaker,
26:16they say,
26:17Why are you the Olympic champion?
26:20It's frustrating.
26:21As I got older, I realized that I couldn't grow any more.
26:26I decided to retire while I was still strong.
26:30There are some people who comment on TV.
26:34And there are some people who go to the coach.
26:37How did you decide that?
26:39In the table tennis world, everyone goes to the coach.
26:43I don't have much work.
26:45I either go to the coach or make my own table tennis court.
26:48In my case, I got a medal.
26:50I got to know a lot of people.
26:52I was able to create a new path called TV.
26:56I want to take advantage of my only chance.
26:59I want to play table tennis in a world that everyone doesn't know.
27:04I see.
27:05Mr. Nisitani has been bullied since his time in the entertainment industry.
27:10I've seen him on TV.
27:13I think he's a typical person.
27:15He used to be a very strict person.
27:18He was a strict person.
27:23He said,
27:24You're weak, so you're 8 years old.
27:27That's the worst.
27:30He said,
27:32You're weak, so you're 8 years old.
27:37He was a terrible person.
27:41That's the worst.
27:43He was very strict and serious.
27:46I reflected on it.
27:47I realized that he was hurting me.
27:50Maybe it's because it's a sport.
27:53I don't have to say it.
27:56He's a very strict person.
27:58How did he change?
28:00He's a legend.
28:04He's a legend.
28:06I thought I couldn't be like him.
28:08I thought I couldn't be like him.
28:10I thought I couldn't be like him.
28:13I thought I couldn't be like him.
28:15I thought I'd take a different path.
28:17In 2021, I was ranked first in the athlete ranking.
28:24He was a terrible person.
28:26I didn't think he cared about the ranking.
28:30I was ranked first in the athlete ranking.
28:32I was ranked first in the athlete ranking.
28:34It's amazing.
28:36It's amazing.
28:38He was a very strict person.
28:42He changed his personality a lot.
28:46He changed his personality a lot.
28:48I didn't know that.
28:50I didn't know that.
28:52I'm conscious of not saying it in the commentary.
28:55I want to see it.
28:57I want to see it.
28:59I want to see it.
29:01It's attractive.
29:03How did you decide to go to the next career?
29:08I decided to quit after seeing bad seniors.
29:11It's not good.
29:13I saw bad seniors for a long time.
29:18I was clear about what I wanted to do.
29:20What did you want to do?
29:22I want to be a director.
29:24I want to be a director.
29:26That's why I decided to quit.
29:28There are no young directors in the world of soccer.
29:31There are many young directors in Europe.
29:35There are no young directors in Japan.
29:37I thought I should go back to being young.
29:41I thought I should go back to being young.
29:43You wanted to be a director.
29:47I was tired.
29:49I couldn't play as I used to.
29:51I couldn't play as I used to.
29:53I decided to go to the next career.
29:57I decided to go to the next career.
29:59You said you wanted to be a director.
30:01You said you wanted to be a director.
30:03How did you decide?
30:05How did you decide?
30:07Why are you talking about it?
30:09I'm watching you.
30:11It takes a long time to get a soccer license.
30:15I didn't quit because I wanted to be a director.
30:19I was preparing for it since I was in my early 20s.
30:22I was preparing for it since I was in my early 20s.
30:27It takes 10 years to retire and become a director.
30:31I thought I wanted to go back to being young.
30:35I thought I wanted to go back to being young.
30:37I was told I can't go back unless I retire when I'm 35.
30:40I was told I can't go back unless I retire when I'm 35.
30:43For example, I quit my job and work for TV.
30:45When I retired, I jumped the queue to get a license.
30:48when I retired, I jumped the queue to get a license.
30:50I do not work cellphones only.
30:52You didn't say it only cellphones.
30:55There are many different styles now.
30:57There are many different styles now.
30:59How is your employee experience?
31:02I choose a career.
31:04The goal was to become the director, but when I became one, I started to get criticism.
31:10It was a lot of work.
31:12Because you were doing too much in the genre.
31:14Right.
31:15Because you were convincing.
31:17It was a lot of work.
31:19Right.
31:20I was in the first class.
31:21The people in front of the TV were screaming,
31:23I said, you'll be the director, you have to run!
31:25They didn't listen.
31:27It was easy to get close.
31:28It was easy to get close, but...
31:31In the future, when I become a director, I don't want to be shown my embarrassing videos from a few years ago.
31:37That's true.
31:38I feel like I'm going to cry.
31:39I feel like I'm going to cry.
31:40After winning, I want to see something like this.
31:45I like TV.
31:46Of course, I will do my best to do what is required.
31:50There are two people.
31:51There is a variety of talking about sports.
31:56Is there a job like this that is a little troublesome?
31:59I run to use my body.
32:03I have to shoot twice from this year to the next year.
32:06My whole body is tattered.
32:08I use my body a little.
32:12I escape from somewhere.
32:14I play tag.
32:17I agree with you.
32:19Mr. Mizutani has a lot of such games.
32:21I played a wide range of games.
32:24It's easy to get used to the image.
32:26There are a lot of scripts and contents that can be modified.
32:30But I have to show it as a gold medalist.
32:34I have to adjust the balance.
32:38As a gold medalist?
32:39Yes.
32:40That's right.
32:42Is there anything you can say?
32:43There was a project that was impossible.
32:46Basically, I don't have all the NG.
32:49I want you to be naked.
32:52Who is it?
32:54Mr. Mizutani has a plan to be naked.
32:56Don't let Mr. Mizutani be naked.
32:58I'm going to be naked.
33:00For the general public, we are training our bodies.
33:03That's right.
33:04We are well trained.
33:06However, I don't like it because I have a healthy body.
33:10I have a lot of bath scenes.
33:12I take a bath scene from the moment I use it.
33:16That's right.
33:17That's right.
33:18You are an actress.
33:19I can't finish the interview like this.
33:23You are an announcer.
33:25I don't know.
33:26I don't have a lot of medalists.
33:28So...
33:29I'm coming out of a bad place.
33:32You can come out of a bad place.
33:33That's good.
33:37What is the work ethic of the three people who carry their feet to the scene as gold casters?
33:42Isn't it hard?
33:43The interview after losing.
33:45You can ask tough questions because you are a gold caster.
33:49I was a judo player at the Tokyo Olympics.
33:51At that time, I was not a commentator.
33:53When I was interviewing in the mixed zone,
33:55the player wears a mix.
33:57The player speaks facing this way.
33:59I'm an interviewer and a senior in the judo world.
34:02I don't know how to speak.
34:04I don't know how to speak.
34:06I don't know how to speak.
34:08I don't know how to speak.
34:10I don't know how to speak.
34:12A lot of people are like,
34:14How dare you do the interview?
34:18You can't do it.
34:20You have to match it.
34:22I can match it.
34:23I've seen a lot of players, so I know the frustration.
34:26I can't finish it like this.
34:28If an ordinary interviewer says,
34:30I can't finish it like this.
34:32It's not like an announcer.
34:34It's not like an announcer, but it's very rude.
34:36I've seen it.
34:38There are many interviews with former players.
34:42I say, How dare you do it?
34:44I think, Who is that?
34:46I think, Who is that?
34:48I think, Who is that?
34:50I was beaten on the first day.
34:52It's hard.
34:54From the next day,
34:56I was told by the cameraman,
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36:30That's amazing!
36:32He didn't get that one millimeter.
36:34He didn't get that one millimeter.
36:36It was long, wasn't it?
36:37It was long, wasn't it?
36:38At that time, I was explaining the pitch.
36:40I was playing here and watching.
36:42Honda said,
36:43How about Maki?
36:44He didn't get that one millimeter.
36:45He didn't get that one millimeter.
36:47I'm not talking about Mitoma's one millimeter.
36:49I'm talking about Maki's meat.
36:51Maki's meat.
36:52It's completely different.
36:54The value.
36:55That's about it.
36:57You can see it right away.
36:58Mitoma.
36:59You see scenes where Olympic athletes look like they're on good terms.
37:03Even in other sports.
37:04Do you talk a lot?
37:06Now, the National Training Center.
37:08It's a place where athletes from various sports gather.
37:12And there's SNS.
37:14We have a lot of interactions.
37:17That's why we get along.
37:18We didn't have that 20 years ago.
37:21Judo only gathers judo.
37:23There are a lot of medalists in judo.
37:26There were no other athletes talking to me.
37:31I couldn't get a medal in the Olympics.
37:34There's something like a medalist mount.
37:40Even at the same Olympics.
37:44That's very humiliating.
37:48I'm really in trouble in front of Nomura.
37:52Did you lose that after you won the medal?
37:55I don't like that mount.
37:57I want to make it easier to get along with.
37:59I'm in trouble.
38:00I'm in trouble.
38:01Other athletes.
38:07If a kid under the age of a different sport appears in front of a large number of people.
38:12I don't think he's too old.
38:15I don't think so.
38:16I don't think so.
38:17For example, from the Tokyo Olympics.
38:19Urban sports.
38:21Like skateboarding.
38:22There are a lot of sports.
38:24Those athletes are 15 years old.
38:27The values are different.
38:29When I was a caster at the Tokyo Olympics.
38:31I didn't have that kind of timing.
38:33When I was interviewed.
38:35I was an athlete in junior high school.
38:37If I was asked, how can I deal with it?
38:43That's true.
38:44There's no way you can get angry.
38:46I'm going to be polite to a lot of people.
38:50I think the top MCs.
38:53Reduce the distance between sports.
38:57I think they're getting excited at a higher level than I am.
39:03If you don't think it's my show.
39:07I know I can't get to that zone.
39:11What kind of mentality should I have?
39:16There's something.
39:17From an athlete's point of view.
39:18The top MCs should be polite.
39:22That's right.
39:23I'm the easiest to get along with.
39:24First of all, as an experiment.
39:28It depends on the personality of the entertainer.
39:30That's right.
39:31For example, Mr. Sanma.
39:33Mr. Hamada.
39:34I know a lot about sports.
39:36Even if I'm teased.
39:38I can laugh.
39:39Mr. Nomura, who should I be polite to?
39:43Mr. Nomura.
39:44Mr. Nomura.
39:45It's not that you're not polite.
39:47It's still early.
39:48It's not that it's still early.
39:51That's the answer.
39:52I'm glad.
39:53My judgment wasn't wrong.
39:57Hello.
39:58Hello.
39:59Welcome.
40:00I'm just doing it.
40:01I'm tired.
40:02I can't sleep.
40:04You're already tired.
40:05It's good that you're tired.
40:06No, I'm not angry about that.
40:08Why?
40:09I'm just playing.
40:14It's been three years since I've been here.
40:16Inoue was weak at first.
40:18Is it because I'm old?
40:19I've been really bad at manzai lately.
40:22Ishizaka confesses his non-style.
40:24I could see the ceiling.
40:26This is definitely not good.
40:28What is the ceiling of Inoue that can be seen?
40:31The truth is revealed.
40:33Trio's brain is here.
40:35We're trying to fit in.
40:36That's right.
40:37It's a bomb.
40:39It's not good to step on two people's backs.
40:42Trio's brain is here.
40:44We're trying to fit in.
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