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00:00What's up? Hi, welcome. I'm actually hoping everything goes well. Last time I did a live,
00:13we weren't able to all be together because we couldn't go live for some weird reason.
00:19So we had to prerecord it. But I actually prefer you guys all be here with us. So fingers
00:26crossed, there's no issues because we're going to get into this episode tonight. Oh, there's
00:31so much drama to unpack. Hey, Gina. Hi, Vanja. Hi, Grandma Gus. Hi, Billy. Hi, everybody.
00:40We're waiting on Cara to get here so we can start. Fingers crossed everything goes well.
00:45You know, there's issues with Instagram last week. We couldn't do the live. We had to do
00:48a prerecord, which I don't like to do. I like to talk to all of you. I like to have everybody's
00:53opinions and thoughts. So hopefully we can get Cara in here and there's no issues so
01:00we can get into this because, man, this was a crazy episode.
01:04Took a turn, right? So yeah, there's just a lot. So I'm adding Cara now. Let me know
01:14in the comments. If everything is going well. Hi to Diva Speaks. Fingers crossed, right?
01:25I'm hoping everything is good. Because we tried this last week a lot and there was all
01:30these issues. So guys in the comments in the chat, please let us know if you can see us
01:34and hear us and everything looks and sounds normal so we can get started because man,
01:38there's so much I want to get into this episode kept me glued to the couch, right? Like there
01:43was a lot. All right, so. Okay, I don't see any comments that say anything is wrong. So
01:49I think we're good to go. I think we're good. Okay, it's working. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
01:55Okay, so I want to get into. Okay, so I want to start off with some non suitable for work
02:01conversation right because we were with Brian and Ingrid and I learned tonight, this is
02:07the learning channel that we're watching that women find oral sex more intimate than sex,
02:12which I did not know. So Brian being a man felt rejected because he thought that this
02:18was like the next best thing. And then Ingrid broke down for us and was like, this is something
02:22that you do. And actually, Brian's sister Reese also broke it down for us as well. Like
02:27this is very intimate. You know, you don't want people that you don't know well this
02:30in that area of your body. And I kind of understand that. But it's like men, they were right.
02:37It's not that serious for a guy. A guy will get oral sex from a woman or whatever that
02:41he's not even dating. Like it's not even that serious. So I think that there is a bridge
02:46gap, unbridged gap right between men and women and what what they like and don't like and
02:51what they want and what they don't want. And it was interesting because a good lesson was
02:55learned here. You have to ask a woman if that's what she wants. You know, and I think Brian
03:01didn't realize that I didn't realize that either. You just assume that people want that,
03:06you know, and it's a gap between.
03:08I just want to say the American culture is a little bit different. Also, relationships
03:13are different. If you've been in a relationship for a while and you guys have been together
03:18more than once, I understand it. But if the first time you meet and he's showing you how
03:25to put in his catheter and he's using a condom to do so and all of this, like this guy's
03:31so full of shit. He's so full of shit. Oh, she just didn't want it. I mean, yes, you
03:39should always get consent. Absolutely. Yes, it's very intimate. But this guy is creeper
03:45status 1000. So you're not wrong. Two years. They've known each other for two years talking
03:54for two years. And there's so much information that he omitted from her. And you know, I'm
03:58a big person that believes omitting information is lying. You know, a lot of people will argue
04:04with me, judges will argue with me. Like, if you omit information, I see it as a lie.
04:09Some people look at it as proprietary information, right? Like, if it's not needed to tell you
04:13don't have to tell. But in my opinion, if you purposely omit information that would
04:18be useful to another person and the decisions that they make, you're lying, you're manipulating
04:22them. Because if you know that they could make a different choice, if you gave them
04:26the right information, that's pure manipulation, you're manipulating them to do what you want
04:31to do by withholding information. So I just think that, I don't know, he rubs me the wrong
04:37way. He definitely comes across as a creeper. But I think that he, he uses his being a quadriplegic
04:43as like, you have to feel bad for me type thing. So you can't be mad at me, you know,
04:49you have to and I was like, No, I understand that his situation is serious, and it affects
04:54every aspect of his life. But it's never an excuse to be a liar, or to manipulate
05:00women or to take advantage of people like that's never an excuse. I don't care what
05:04you have going on. Disability wise, you know, you can still be a good human being. And I
05:09feel like he's just not a good human being.
05:12Also whether he asked her or not, if he started, she said no. And then he got pissed off because
05:19she said no. That's bullshit. That is just bullshit.
05:23Well, yeah. Okay. So I was watching this news story on X the other day. And it was like
05:28a guy asked a girl for her phone number. She said no. And then the guy punched the girl
05:33in the face. And I was like, see, I'm pissed off at the whole situation. Because it's like
05:37if you ask someone for consent, and they say no, you have to respect what they give as
05:42their answer, right? If she's not ready, you don't have the right to get mad or feel like
05:47she's rejecting you or he's like, Oh, she's just using this as a cop out because she's
05:51not attracted to me. I was like, she's probably not attracted to you because of your character.
05:56Not necessarily because you're in a wheelchair is she doesn't like the fact that you keep
05:59lying to her. You keep manipulating her and you won't be honest. Like nothing to do with
06:07your freaking wheelchair.
06:08Well, yeah, it's everything goes back. Everything goes back to that. And I just hate it because
06:13I feel like he's giving people that suffer from what he suffers from a bad name. Right?
06:20Like there are people who are quadriplegic who are in good relationships, healthy relationships
06:24who don't lie to people who don't manipulate people who don't take advantage of people.
06:28So don't make it seem like this is linked to you being a quadriplegic. You're just a
06:33shitty dude who happens to be quadriplegic, right? Like I don't like that.
06:38She said, and I quote, that he's crude, he's brute, he's incomprehensible. And when she
06:45said no, he got angry like he was dying.
06:49Wow. That's what I'm saying. Actually, speaking of saying no, so we were talking about Renee
06:57and Chitty last week. So we saw the aftermath of Renee asking Chitty to go to the hotel
07:03and he said no, right? And she was like, she got really pissed off. And she's like, oh,
07:07you're not a man. You have to ask your mom and daddy. You can't be in a healthy relationship.
07:12And she basically demeaned him because he wouldn't go to the hotel. And it's like, I
07:17do agree that he just didn't want to go, right? I do understand that him saying, oh, I have
07:22to prepare. No, you can just go. Because it's local. So you can just go. And if you forgot
07:28something at home, you could just go back and get it. So yeah, he didn't want to go.
07:30I agree that he should be honest. But I feel like he's afraid of her. And I feel like being
07:35alone with her is such a bad idea. And I feel like him not going is in his best interest
07:44of safety. He should not be alone with her. And I know that she's like, oh, I don't want
07:48his sister around. She's too judgmental. And I was like, well, is she judgmental? Or you
07:52just don't like the fact that he has people to come to his defense. If you were to get
07:57in his face and start screaming and acting an idiot. I feel like that's your issue. You
08:00don't like the fact that when you were yelling at him in that room, the entire family came
08:05to his defense and you felt outnumbered. And I think that's what bothered her. She doesn't
08:08like the idea that she can't act crazy and not be held accountable. The whole family
08:14was in there ready to come after her. I think she doesn't like it.
08:18Yep. I agree. So I'm so done with these people. And I'm going to go over here. I'm going to
08:27get on TV. And I'm going to, you know, act all crazy. Well, acting all crazy, acting
08:33all abusive and, and sex abuse. Let's just be real. Let's call it what it is. It's out
08:40of control. And TLC needs to stop this shit. Period. Yeah, they should have booted Brian
08:47from the jump. They should have been like, you know what, as soon as she came out, she
08:52was devastated. She was talking with the producers. She's like, the way he got angry when I said
08:56no, they should have said done and done. Yeah, because we're not watching Dateline, right?
09:02Like, I do feel like we are watching. I feel like we're watching true crime. And that's
09:06not what I signed up for. I like to be entertained. I don't want anyone to actually be in danger.
09:11Right. And I feel like we're treading a fine line.
09:14And that's how I feel about this trip they have planned together. Now they're gonna leave
09:19together. This is like, she shouldn't go. She should not go.
09:24Well, supposedly, he's gonna be meeting her family, which that's not gonna go well. And
09:30I like the idea that he's meeting her family because I want people to be there to defend
09:34her, right? Because she's always alone.
09:37You wouldn't get to meet my neighbor's cousin's sister's hamster.
09:43I mean, yeah, I don't see why the purpose they're moving forward with meeting family
09:46and the relationship isn't gonna go anywhere. There's no point. Just like Lauren is planning
09:52on meeting with Faith's parents, right? There's no reason to bring family members into this
09:59because she's not even introducing Lauren as her boyfriend. Lauren is just her friend now,
10:03because she said in this episode, she has friend zoned him. She is not looking for anything
10:08romantic with him, which I think was an excellent choice.
10:11Yeah.
10:11Right? I think that finding out that he was cheating on you because he had gonorrhea just
10:18shows you you're not in the right situation. Because say-
10:22Say he talks about it, like he's talking about, you know, the hot dogs at the baseball game.
10:28He just talks about it. And he smirks. And he's so disgusting. This guy is so disgusting.
10:35I cannot with him.
10:37Well, it's very easy Sunday conversation. Like STDs are very normal to him. Like,
10:45for instance, I've never had an STD. And I would love, right? We would love to keep it that way.
10:51So when we hear people say like, oh, that's nothing. You take a pill and then there's
10:55no more discharge. And I'm like, what is this? Right?
10:58Sludge, he said.
11:01Now that is a scary situation. So that's enough for me to think I don't want to be with a person
11:09who thinks that getting and giving STDs to people is normal, because I don't I don't want to be a
11:14part of that type of situation. I don't want to get one. I don't want to be given one. I don't
11:18want to have one. I've gone my whole life so far without getting one. Knock on wood. I would love
11:23to correct that way. Right. So I think that the whole situation, oh, he brought up the fact that
11:28he was like, oh, a nice home in the Philippines is $2,000, right? US dollars, which is crazy,
11:35right? That's crazy. You can't even get a car here for that. And so he's saying now, it's possible
11:41if I was to save up enough money, if I was to buy your mother a house, you know, would that make?
11:46First of all, as soon as he said, I need to save up enough money to buy your mom a house,
11:54you have to save up $2,000 to buy a car. Yes, he has 40. Well, he had $46. When he got there,
12:02he had literally $40 loan, like, call one of your friends get alone, you you're scraping money on
12:09the floor for all these dancers in Vegas. You can't tell me this icky, nasty gonorrhea filled
12:16yuck isn't pocketing five or 10 bucks here and there. Whoa, this guy is scraping money from the
12:22floor. I think that he's really bad with money, right? Because there's no reason why there's
12:27nothing wrong with him. Like physically or mentally. I don't want to say that I'm not a
12:31doctor. There's nothing wrong with him that he can't hold a job and make money. Right? Like,
12:35I feel like if he was to get it, hold on. No, there's something mentally wrong with this guy.
12:43I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. I don't know. I can tell you that it is not normal.
12:49And I'm not a doctor. But I can tell you it is not normal to talk about gonorrhea. Like you're
12:55asking someone what they want for dinner tonight. And smiling about it's not or we're really not
13:01right up here. I think pot he could hold a job and make money. I'm gonna say that I don't think
13:08I think that he's got things going on, but nothing to the point where he couldn't be
13:13successful. He doesn't have to be a couch surfing, toilet shrimp guy. Like, I feel like he could
13:18easily do more if he wanted to. And again, I'm not a doctor, I could be wrong. So don't quote me.
13:25Like, I can't say that he literally could be a CEO of a company. But I feel like if he really
13:29wanted to have a job where he could make $2,000 a month, I think that he could make that happen.
13:35I think if he tried and really wanted to, he could. But the idea that he's telling her like,
13:39I don't know what McDonald's pays in Las Vegas. But here in my very small town with a population
13:46of like 3000 people at best, that's if you have company, you make more than $2,000 a month at
13:53McDonald's. Well, yeah. And I promise the people at my McDonald's have no gonorrhea.
13:59Well, we don't know that. We're hoping that.
14:02I promise. And if they did, they're not going to go on national TV and tell you about it.
14:07Well, no, if you do happen to get gonorrhea, the only people who will know are you and your doctor,
14:12right? Because that's what that's normally you're not going to really if you don't need to tell them
14:16like legally because y'all had sex, you're not going to go and just advertise it to nobody.
14:21Like you and your doctor and maybe the pharmacist who wrote who filled the prescription they might
14:26know. Because that's right there. You just said that's what's normal. Yes.
14:32Everything he's doing is not normal. And I'm not a doctor. I am not a doctor. And I am officially
14:39diagnosing him with the disgusting. Oh, yeah, he's got the ick. Yeah,
14:45he's got the ick. Yeah, that's that's definitely a fact. And you could tell that Faith has it.
14:51She has the ick for him. She's just like, you're icky. I don't want she when they got to her
14:56hometown, and she had reserved one room. She got him her his own room. She's like, No, this is an
15:02icky person. Yeah, I don't even want to be because you know, you could easily share a room with
15:07someone and you don't do anything, right? Like I've taken trips where we had to share rooms.
15:12Nobody did anything, but she didn't even want to be in the same room. So you know that Faith is
15:18just like, No, this is icky. I don't even want to breathe the same air if I don't have to. So I
15:23think that she's really seeing the person that she thought he was and the person that he is are just
15:29two different people. And you can't date a person you don't know. She doesn't know the gonorrhea
15:35side of him. She knows the person that she met on FaceTime and on video calls who pretended to
15:40be a decent human being. And that was that's the person that she thought was gonna come visit her
15:44and now she's dealing with gonorrhea guy. You know, she's she doesn't even know what to do
15:49because she's like, I can't introduce this gonorrhea person to my parents as my boyfriend.
15:56I can't do that. Oh, so we have to talk about something that Lauren said. So first of all,
16:02Faith revealed to us that she's the bottom obviously, because she's a trans woman, trans
16:07women like to be the woman in the relationship. So she's the bottom and then Lauren revealed that
16:11he's the bottom. So I don't really know how that works. But he did say that he could do either one.
16:18He said, basically, I would do whatever she asked me to do, which is weird.
16:24He doesn't use his penis in the bedroom.
16:30Good, right? That's good. I'm sure really wondering, it shouldn't be shared with anybody.
16:37But for some reason, there's at least one person a week sleeping with this man. So that's my other
16:45question. So he's only getting oral sex from these women, right? Because how do we know that?
16:54Did he say that? Well, he said, he claims this friend gave him oral sex. And that's how he got
17:04So that's what he says. But then, in another episode, he says he's sleeping with one friend
17:10a week, at least. So are you telling me there's more than one female that's crazy enough to sleep
17:19with gonorrhea shrimp toilet guy and be okay? Well, are we talking females though? Because I
17:25feel like it's probably not humans. Are there that many sick humans in the world?
17:32Well, okay, so I saw this weird video online before and it was like two homeless people
17:37having sex on the side of the road. So like, I'm just gonna say like, everybody has sex,
17:41right? Just being honest, right? Everybody has sex. So let's just say that there's people in
17:47Vegas that are not a crowd you would really want to be homeless and not have gonorrhea.
17:55Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, we're right. These people on the side of the road haven't said they probably
17:59didn't even have gonorrhea. They were cleaner than that. Homeless people have no penis sludge.
18:04Well, no, they don't. But okay, so I want to talk about the hold on, there was something else about
18:12oh, the hormonal penis. So he said that he prefers a female penis over a man penis. Now,
18:18I grew up in the church, Cara. I don't know what this means. So can you help me? I don't understand
18:23what this means. I don't either, honestly. What is a female penis? It doesn't, it's an oxymoron,
18:29like it's not a real thing. But he said when a woman is on hormones, which by the way,
18:33Faith says she's not on hormones. But he said because they're expensive. Apparently, they're
18:38expensive to get. So but he was like, Oh, I could just get hormones for her, which I'm not sure how
18:42he could. But whatever. But he said that he prefers his trans women to be on hormones. So their penis
18:49is a female penis. Does that mean it shrinks? I have no idea. I was so I literally rewound it.
19:00Because I was like, Wait, are they different? Well, right. I don't understand. I thought that
19:06when trans I mean, I'm very uneducated. But I thought that when trans people took the opposing
19:14sex hormones, that it just like either alter if you take it young enough, it alters the visual of
19:22the Adam's apple, changes the voice grows the breasts. I didn't think it did anything with
19:27the genitals. Neither did I because that's why a lot of trans people don't feel complete until they
19:33get the bottom surgery because they still feel like it's not the correct. Yes, right. So I didn't.
19:40So I don't know, maybe the testicles really, I was my mind, I didn't have time to Google it,
19:45because I was just like, what does that mean? Well, yeah, we'll have to research it. I don't
19:50know. And it's never come up on the show before because you know, we had Nikki Exotica on the show,
19:55but she's already transitioned. So we didn't really have these type of conversations because
19:59these are pre pre op conversations. So we haven't really had this on the show before. So I was just
20:06like, I don't really know. Oh, and we had Gabe on the show as well. But again, this was post,
20:11so we didn't really get to have these type of conversations. So like you said, I don't know
20:15enough to understand what that even means. But something you said earlier, he said that he was
20:20getting oral sex from people. And that's how he got gonorrhea. But then he said that he doesn't
20:25use his penis during sex at all. Yeah, it's very, that's contradicting. None of everything that
20:31spews out of this guy's mouth and other orifices is all just gross. It's just gross. This guy is
20:39spewing out every orifice. Yeah, it's like, there's no reason why I should know so much about
20:46him and his sexual preferences. Me saying that I've never met him in my life. That's I feel like
20:52those are such intimate details of his life. I know what he prefers what he doesn't. I know that
20:58I know everything. Yeah, you know, I know what, um, what diseases and STDs Yeah, oh, yeah, Laura,
21:05they're both bottom. So faith is the bottom. And I guess pitcher receiver, right is kind of how you
21:10explain it. So they both would be the receiver. So again, we don't I don't even know how this
21:13would work. He did. Well, Lauren said that he would be the pitcher, if need be. But it's interesting
21:23that they've never had these conversations, right? Like for a straight couple, like to a male and a
21:28female, you don't necessarily have to have that type of conversation, right? Right? It's a given,
21:33you know, you might talk positions, but you don't really have to talk about that. But in this
21:38situation, it's a it's a very unique situation, you would think that this conversation would come
21:43up. Yeah, right. Like you would think that you would want to decide because if you both have
21:47a penis, you would be like, well, do you because you know, there are people who are trans who
21:52despise that part of their body. They don't want it there. So you would need to have
21:57Carlos and Valentine, right? Right. You're exactly right. This whole problem. They were dating for
22:05years. Yeah. And the funny part is they knew they had the conversation, but still tried to move
22:11forward both being tops and try to move forward. And again, it was it didn't go anywhere. Yeah.
22:17You know, and I think that it's added pressure and added things to worry about when you're in
22:23a more unique relationship. There's more things that can go wrong. There's more things that you
22:27could not see eye to eye on. But when it comes to Lauren, it's like, what is a healthy relationship
22:34look like for Lauren? Like, what would it look like? Because I'm so confused at him in general,
22:39like, what would a healthy relationship look like? Because we've seen all the things that he said
22:43about his ex wife, and how much he can't stand, you know, the fact that he has kids and he has
22:47child support. And it's like, what does a healthy relationship look like for him? Because I don't
22:51know. A healthy relationship for him is this white jacket, it goes like this, ties around the back.
23:00I think those are called straight jackets, right? In that alone in his bathroom. Yes.
23:05So nobody else is allowed to be there. Literally.
23:08Just him. Yeah, that's the healthiest version of a relationship, keeping everyone else away.
23:13Okay, that is healthy, because you can't hurt anybody who's not allowed to see you.
23:17Yes. Right? So I guess you're right. Okay, so
23:20spreading your penis sludge elsewhere.
23:22Well, yeah, that and that should be isn't illegal. Like if you if you know you have an STD,
23:28and you have sex with somebody, they can take you to court, right?
23:30Yeah, I have to I think it's a law. Well, in most states, I know it's a law in Oregon,
23:36that if you have something serious like that, you have to report to like the health department.
23:41Oh, that's even better. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen people be held accountable for knowingly spreading
23:49sexually transmitted diseases. I've seen it on the news. I've seen it online,
23:52where they were held, you know, accountable to the fullest extent of the law, you know,
23:56because you're basically especially when it comes to certain ones that are not curable.
24:01That's where it gets really serious, because you're giving someone something that they could
24:04never get rid of. Yeah, and you knew it. So also, I want to talk about the Niles maxims. So
24:11he had 20 maxims that he wrote that he lives by, and he gave them to Matilda, and she did not read
24:17them. So they went to this beautiful memorial for Ghana's first president. And he had her read them,
24:22which was funny, because it was in preparation for the proposal. So she he border with the
24:28maxim, she's going through the maximum, but she doesn't really understand. And he finally
24:32proposes to her, and she's completely caught off guard, because she had basically zoned him out,
24:37because she was bored with whatever was going on. And then in the process of the moment of
24:44proposing to her, he does not use that, because I felt like the best way to do it was to soften
24:50the blow by here's a ring, I want to marry you. Also, we can't get married right now. I feel like
24:55it needed to happen at the very moment. So it would, you know how you have a very positive
24:59thing and followed by negative thing, they kind of even each other out. Yeah, the fact that he
25:04decided to just do the one positive thing and let her be happy and skip all the way home.
25:08And then later in the day, go and drop this bomb on her. I think that he set himself up. Yeah. And
25:15and I know that he's not ready. And I know that he thinks this is the right thing to do.
25:21But I'm kind of on Matilda's side at this point, because she's been bringing up the wedding
25:25for months. And he hasn't said no. And she's beyond the point of no return. She's invited
25:33people, over 200 people. And you know, I don't know if she rented a hall. I don't know if they're
25:37going to have it, you know, in a certain place. I don't know what's going on with that. But I know
25:40that there's people invited, and her family. So over 200 people, I've been to weddings where there
25:47was only 75 people. Yeah, she's talking over 200 people. And I'm sorry, I know that he's not ready.
25:53But this is 100% his fault. He needed to tell her what was going on before she planned everything.
25:59And I think that... He should not have proposed. He should have taken her on this nice date,
26:06all that stuff, and then said, you know, I wanted to propose to you here. But unfortunately,
26:13I can't marry you on this trip. So I'm going to propose when I'm ready to be able to marry you,
26:19blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you're so beautiful, all the smoochy stuff. He could have done that
26:24later. But to propose and then turn around and say, just kidding.
26:29Whoa. So yeah, it's insult to injury. And it's making her feel rejected. And not only that,
26:37it's going to cause embarrassment. She went and told everybody. You know, we have every now and
26:42then we have a couple of friends where they kind of smile every time something goes wrong in your
26:47life. So now that all of the people that she's told that she's going to get married, there's
26:51going to be a couple people who laugh when they find out that the wedding isn't going to happen.
26:56And especially when it comes to women, they have, you know, women have some petty friends.
27:00Yeah.
27:00You know, and they're just like, Oh, you told me you're going to get married. He's not going to
27:03marry you. And you know, and then there's that, that stigma of negativity of rejection and being
27:08laughed at. You know, you go to the grocery store, and the ladies on the other side of grocery store
27:12laughing. You think they're laughing at you? Because you told everybody in your whole town,
27:17you were going to get married, and now you're not getting married. So like, I, I'm team Matilda the
27:21whole way. Like, I don't think that she's in it for the right reasons. But I think the way that
27:25he went about it. I'm surprised that she didn't throw a drink at him when she when he
27:33Especially since they are he ordered to
27:35Yeah. I was like, you are so lucky you did not catch a drink to the face. I would never
27:43drink with eight shots of alcohol in it. And expected it to go smooth.
27:49Well, okay. So my first thought was, maybe having a couple of drinks in her will make her a little
27:55more calm. But don't get her drunk. Yeah. And in Oregon, as a bartender, it is against the law
28:03to sell more than two AMS in one shift really the same person. So that drunk drunk. So that's
28:10one, one's gonna knock you in the next week. That's take the person's keys and lock them up.
28:15Right. So take person's keys and hope, hope to God, they brought their best friend to clean up
28:22the vomit. So I was just, I was floored, though, because I was like, man, I want to I'm on it's
28:29hard because I understand his stance, because they literally just met for the first time.
28:35I would never in a million years advise anyone to marry somebody that you just met. I don't care
28:41if you've been talking on the phone for five years, I don't care if you just met them,
28:45you need more time to determine who this person is. So I'm fully understanding of his side. But
28:52I just don't like the way he did it. And no woman deserves to go through what he put her through.
28:58She first of all, he made her the happiest woman in the world earlier in the day.
29:02And then the same day he went and made her feel like the lowest woman in the world.
29:06And again, I understand with autism, he doesn't have that, the compassion and sympathy that
29:13or he doesn't think about how his actions affect people's feelings and emotions. I understand.
29:18I totally understand. But I just feel like there was a better way. You know, he needs somebody that
29:23he can confide in to help him with his relationships. I really wish that there was somebody
29:27who could guide him better, because she might not be the one, but she's probably just gonna dump
29:32his ass regardless. Right? Like, I don't know many women who will put up with this.
29:37Oh, that was called, what was it? Something mother effort, right?
29:42It's an audios motherfucker.
29:43Yes, audios motherfucker. It's a very, very strong drink photo mom. And, you know, I thought that it
29:50was smart to take her and get her, you know, a drink or two in her before you, you know,
29:55it helps when you're gonna tell somebody bad news, but don't get them drunk. Because when
29:59people are drunk, they tend to act straight out of emotion. So when you tell a woman something
30:03like, Oh, remember the wedding that you planned and all these people are coming? That's when you
30:07get smacked. You know,
30:09You let her have the drink. And then the next day, you can be like, gosh, I'm so glad that we
30:15talked about not having the wedding this time. Last night. I'm so glad we had that conversation
30:21when she says what, don't you remember, we were sitting at the bar, we talked about it,
30:25you agreed that now's not the time.
30:28Yes.
30:29Maybe.
30:29Yes. Okay, so
30:32I want to talk about Boja, because we found out some new stuff about Boja tonight. You know,
30:37it's funny, though, I had my suspicions all along, right? Because I was like, huh,
30:4338 year old basketball player, like, I don't know how they do basketball in Croatia. But in America,
30:48when you turn 38, they're expecting you to resign because you're considered nursing home age.
30:52You know, for sports, for sports, you like have a very short shelf life. You know, I don't know
30:57a whole lot about sports. But I know when you're 20, every team wants you. And when you're 40,
31:04nobody wants you anymore. But I know this. Yes, about sports. And we found out that
31:09there was a time in Boja's life, he made a little bit of money playing basketball.
31:15Semi pro.
31:15Semi pro basketball. But this is far and long in the past. He's lying to Boja and saying that he's
31:23still a active semi pro basketball player when he just plays at the local hoop down the street in
31:31his neighborhood, which I just knew it. I just had a weird feeling. He was, and I'm not like going
31:36after the size. But when he said he was under six feet, and then he said his age, then he told me
31:43where he lived. And I was like, you live with your mom. I was like, I know basketball players,
31:46like in real life, and none of them live with their mom, unless their mom has like a house
31:50behind their mansion. Well, looking at him with all of his friends playing, he's not just under
31:56six feet. He's under like five, five. Right, right. He's like five foot five, five foot four
32:02at best. And again, you don't judge a book by its cover. I've seen some people, I had friends that
32:09were shorter that play basketball, whatever. But when you're trying-
32:12I want to be clear when I say I'm five foot three and a quarter, and I cannot jump.
32:17Oh no, me neither. I can't play sports. I can't play basketball. I'm no good at that stuff. I just
32:22never, I've tried. I just, I'm no good at it. I'm not, I'm five, ten, like five, nine and a half.
32:31I'm not even that tall. I'm the shortest person in my family. I think my sister and I are like
32:36the same height. My brother's like seven inches taller than me. And then my mom's youngest sister,
32:43all of her children are over six feet three. And she has five kids.
32:47That's crazy. All of my family's short.
32:48Really?
32:49Every one of us.
32:50Well, on my mom's side, people are like a little, like six feet or below. And then there's my one,
32:57my mom's one sister, she has five kids. They're all over six, three. I think one of them is like
33:01six, seven. They're like-
33:03My dad was five, ten. My brother, my good brother, he passed away when he was 31.
33:10And he was five, two and a quarter. And then my horrible, nasty, rotten sister,
33:16she's like a Shetland human. And she's like four foot something.
33:20Whoa, that's very short.
33:24I have a very good sister who lives in Vegas. And she's nothing like Lauren. And she's beautiful.
33:29And she's like five, eight.
33:31Oh, okay. I mean, there's a lot of amazing people in Vegas. I have really close friends
33:35that live in Vegas. Not everyone is out there just giving and getting gonorrhea from people
33:40in Vegas. Don't think that that's what's going on. I have very close friends that live in Vegas.
33:45They are not giving or getting gonorrhea to anyone. They're doing-
33:48I don't think Patrick and Thais have gonorrhea either. And they're doing-
33:52No. No, they don't. They're very clean. I love them, actually. They're very clean.
33:57But okay, so his mom, Bolger's mom, prayed every day that he would find a woman to relieve the
34:05burden of her son from her, which I thought was really interesting. Because usually when you
34:09meet with someone's mom, and they tell you about their son, especially if it's a Jewish mom,
34:13their son is basically the son of God. They're the most amazing person. And she was just like,
34:18I just hope somebody comes and scoops this guy up. It doesn't even matter who it is,
34:23if she's a woman, transition, whatever. Somebody just come and scoop this guy up.
34:29Someone take him off my hands. Make him go live in your basement.
34:33It was just hilarious because she knew he wasn't a catch. And I just loved her because I was like,
34:38see, this is what- if mothers were this brutally honest, their kids would work a little harder.
34:44Because I've watched the news and somebody robbed a bank and the mom's like, he's such a good boy.
34:49And I'm like, ma'am, that's him in the cuffs. We're past that.
34:54It's just because she was home hiding the cash.
34:57Right. And it's like, she was just like, no, somebody, please, God, please, anyone,
35:04any country, any part of the world, you want to send an alien, whoever you want to send
35:08to take this man off my hands, that would be amazing. And then, oh, we found out also,
35:13the reason he ghosted- well, first of all, he's ghosting Vanja the whole time she's flying
35:18to Croatia. But the reason why he ghosted her for two months while they were dating is
35:22he tried to get back with his ex-girlfriend, which I find to be very grimy.
35:26Yes.
35:27That is such a grimy thing. So basically, he put her on the back burner and was like,
35:32and then tried to work it out with his ex and then didn't tell her right away. And then when-
35:36So when I was taking my notes, as he started talking about her, he said he put sports in
35:43front of his biggest love for six years. And in parentheses, I put, he's still in love with her.
35:49And then it came out that he put Vanja on the back burner so that he could try to get back
35:55with her. And I was like, oh, there it is.
35:57Well, the reason why he moved forward with Vanja is because this ex-girlfriend wouldn't.
36:02Yes.
36:03And you got to watch it when you're in that type of situation. Because say, him and Vanja,
36:09hypothetically, they worked out and they're going to be together for a couple of years,
36:13say three years down the line, this ex-girlfriend calls him. He's going to drop everything that he
36:18has to go be with this person because he's still in love with this person. So that's why it's
36:23important to me when I ask people, how did your last relationship end? Because if they got dumped,
36:29and they wanted to stay with that person, then there's a possibility that if that person that
36:34dumped them ever changed their mind, they would drop you like you never existed.
36:38And that's because she's local. She's there with him. And they all say,
36:44women want what they can't have or men want what they can't have. So she doesn't want him right
36:49now. But the second she finds out he's in a relationship with someone else, a beautiful
36:53blonde from the United States that has something to offer, all of a sudden, she's going to want
36:58him back. So.
36:59Yeah. And honestly, she can have him, let him have him. Like the fact that she works four jobs.
37:06And she's so successful. She's so talented. And she's a hard worker. And he lied to her about
37:12having a job. You know, that is like, that's a huge thing. Even his mom said it. She was like,
37:16there's basic things in relationships that you need to tell people. Whether or not you're working
37:21is not something that you just lie about. You have to be honest. And even she was like, you're
37:27going to ruin the only chance you have at getting the hell out of my house by lying to her.
37:31So many lies. It's just, but also the 10 minutes for the connecting flights running in five inch
37:38heels. Does that remind you of anyone? Darcy? Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely Darcy. And another
37:47thing, this has happened to me too. I remember I was flying. I don't remember where, but we had a
37:53connecting flight in Detroit. And wherever we were, okay. So when we got to Detroit, I don't
38:00know, I'm not going to get this right. But wherever we landed, the plane that we were supposed to get
38:04on, there was something wrong with it. So we got on the plane and we were moving back, like pulling
38:09back and we hit something. So something on that plane broke. So they took us off the plane and put
38:13us on another plane. So by the time I landed in the next place, I had like 15 minutes to get some
38:19one gate to the next. And I didn't make it. I want to say it was in Atlanta. And you know,
38:24that airport is just insane. I ran and ran and ran. I got to the gate. The plane was still at
38:29the gate, but apparently there's like a aviation law that the doors have to be closed for 15 minutes
38:36before it can taxi. So they were knocking, they'd already closed it or they're not going to let me
38:40on. So I understood because I was like, she probably made it. The plane was probably still
38:44there, but there's an aviation law that the doors have to be closed at the tarmac for 15 minutes
38:49before they can push back. So she probably made it. But first of all, she has to be crazy to be
38:55running through the airport in heels. She has to be insane. Like I don't love anybody that much to
38:59put my feet in danger. I write the same thing at the San Francisco airport with a 20 minute layover
39:06trying to get to my next gate. It was a whole thing. So the last time I went to Vegas,
39:11I paid $300 extra to not land in San Francisco. Are you serious? Yeah, I get it. I flew to Salt
39:19Lake City instead. I mean, sometimes you have to be proactive. First of all, depending on the
39:25airline you fly on, some of them are just prone to having late and delayed flights. So you got
39:31to be, that's why if it's like not a straight, what do you call it, direct flight, I'll pay more for it
39:37because it's just less stress for me. But yeah, she also, he won't take her phone calls. Hey,
39:42Kim. Kim's on Pillow Talk tonight, guys. He won't take her phone calls while she's traveling,
39:48which I'm trying to understand because we were watching. We were watching him.
39:52That was the thing with his mom?
39:54Well, right. We were watching him during the travel process. He wasn't doing anything
39:58interesting. Why wouldn't he pick up the phone? Like it's really weird that you would have like
40:03absolutely nothing to offer and you have this beautiful woman flying across the country for you
40:07and you don't even have enough decency to pick up the phone when she calls you. Like it's just,
40:12it baffles me. It blows my mind what men think they can get away with. And then I guess also
40:17what women let men get away with sometimes, right? Like sometimes you have to put men in their place.
40:23Men think that they can get away with a lot more than they can if you let them.
40:27Yep. Oh, so Sunny found out about Rory and the shit hit the fan and it was actually way worse
40:38than I thought. His reaction was everything I was hoping for.
40:44It was way worse than I thought. Like I thought he was going to be upset,
40:49but I felt like he went from like sweet, innocent, too innocent for this world to
40:55MMA fighter, Conor McGregor, right? Like it just took a complete, I was just like, whoa,
41:00he was like, get the F out of my face. He was like, go get on a plane. I hate you. And I was
41:05just like, whoa, this is a lot. This is a lot. Cause he was sweet. He didn't even know what
41:08foreplay meant. Like he told her to close her eyes to kiss her. I was like, he went from the
41:13innocent, sweet dude to I'm scared of him. Like if I was interacting around that interaction,
41:19I would walk the other way. I'm scared he might hit me. Like I was scared.
41:23Yep. As soon as he started talking in the beginning of the episode, I was like, man,
41:29Brian needs to take some lessons from this guy, like serious lessons. And then towards the end,
41:35I was like, or maybe not. I mean, I don't want to blame him for being upset.
41:41Oh, he was awesome. He was everything I hoped he would be. I mean, I need to, we need to set
41:49him up with someone to fix his eyebrows. Yeah. It's like one big brow at this point. Yeah. We
41:53do need to work on that. But other than that, I think he's a catch and I'm not mad at him for
41:59demanding honesty. There's nothing wrong with demanding honesty. Like, and like I said this
42:04before, if she wanted to bring somebody on the trip, because honestly, she only sat with him
42:08on Rory on the plane. And then she left his ass at the airport. So if she really needed support,
42:13she should have got, I'm pretty sure she had a dog or whatever that she took to the dog center.
42:18Remember? Yeah. Why didn't she just go file for the emotional support license, the certificate
42:24and take the damn dog with her? The dog could have sat with her on a plane.
42:27Also, I think Rory is the star of this couple.
42:32Really? We'll see him on the spinoff. Yeah. Because he's the voice of reason. He's calm.
42:37Everybody feels bad that she left him in this hotel, that she basically left him in the airport,
42:43just ditched him, had nothing to do with him, blah, blah, blah. I think Rory is the star.
42:48One thing that I did learn from her, she told me, because we were talking a couple of weeks ago,
42:55and I used to live in Ohio in the Cleveland area, and so did she, because apparently Rory is from
43:01like the Lake County area, which was about, the county directly next to where I live,
43:06very, very close by. But she's in Orlando, he's all the way in Ohio. So they're over a thousand
43:10miles away from each other. So I do want to bring up, they're definitely not banging.
43:15Right. Because they're too far away for that. But is she still in love with him? He's still in love
43:21with her? Yes. This is her almost baby daddy. They almost had a baby together. So there's
43:27definitely something still there. But do you think that she would fly all the way to Durban
43:34with her ex, who she's in love with, to meet someone else? Do you think that she would do
43:39something like that? I don't think she's in love with him. I think he's definitely still in love
43:45with her. Oh, so you think he hasn't moved on. She's trying to move on. He hasn't moved on. Okay,
43:52I understand. I think she's moved on more than once. This is just the first time she's moved on
43:56out of the country. And I think he's just holding on. I mean, if you, yeah, if you make yourself a
44:03constant in someone's life, you make it very difficult for that person to move on fully.
44:10You know, because I hate to say this, because the more that you incorporate that person in your
44:15life, the harder it is for you to move forward and build a new relationship. And I know it's
44:21hard because some people are like, well, I don't want to just stop talking to someone that I,
44:24you know, was so close with for years and years and years. But sometimes,
44:27if you want to be in a healthy relationship, it's better that you cut off that communication.
44:32Because like you said, what if the person is in love with you and they're sabotaging,
44:35they're sabotaging your new relationships, and they're inserting themselves
44:39to make things worse for you, and disguising it as support. A lot of people do that.
44:44I think Rory would do anything for her at any time.
44:50I mean, I thought it was really weird that he would fly all the way from Ohio to Florida,
44:54and then from Florida to South Africa, just because she asked. Because if, let's be real,
44:59Cara, if you called me and was like, George, I'm flying to South Africa to meet this person,
45:03but I want you to go with me, would you fly to Oregon first, and then fly with me to South Africa?
45:08I'll be like, I love you, Cara, but I will not. I will not be accompanying you.
45:16Right, I'll be like, no. I was like, maybe, if I could just go there and do my own thing,
45:25you know, then that's a possibility.
45:27But if I asked you to go with me to meet my new love interest, and also,
45:31I'm just going to bail on you in the airport, and then I'll kind of FaceTime you,
45:35and we'll make it super freaking weird, are you going to go?
45:39No, no. The fact that she left the airport and left him sitting outside by the trash can,
45:45he didn't even know. She was supposed to text him. I don't remember what, 777?
45:50777.
45:51And she didn't even text him. He had no idea. He just randomly had to decide to leave
45:56and go to the hotel. He had no idea. She literally just left him there like he wasn't even there.
46:01That's why I don't understand why she needed support. She was totally fine on her own.
46:07And I get being afraid on the airplane or whatever, but you're not alone.
46:11Every time when I have to do like a solo flight, I'm sitting next to somebody.
46:15Sometimes I can't stand them, and they won't shut up, but I'm not alone.
46:20I flew to Vegas by myself not long ago. I was gone for seven days.
46:24Well, yeah. I mean, I've been doing it for a long time, so it doesn't bother me.
46:28I like to put my hoodie on and my sunglasses and put my movie on. And I'm good. I get it.
46:35And I know it's not like a 30-hour flight. I get that. But I just think that, here's what I think.
46:41I think she told him what he was doing. She told Rory, I'm going to fly to South Africa to meet
46:45this guy. I love him. He's great. And then Rory was like, oh, you've never been out of the country.
46:49I should go with you. And I think this is how. So I don't think that it was necessarily she needed
46:54a support person. I think he wanted to insert himself in her relationship,
46:59because I feel like that's probably what he's always done since they broke up.
47:02I don't know. I feel like she asked him to go. She was nervous, blah, blah, blah. She was afraid
47:08she was going to get there. Sonny wasn't going to be real. And he was her backup plan.
47:13Oh, so and then they could have had a little trip together in South Africa. I mean,
47:19possible. Well, let's see how it goes. Because remember when Scott was, he went to the
47:23Dominican Republic for, what was it? Lydia. And then that didn't work out. And then he called
47:32Liz. So let's see if after Sonny disappears, if we start seeing her hanging out with Rory.
47:39With Rory. And if that's the case, that's exactly what happened. Because technically,
47:43if things don't work out with Sonny, she should get back on a plane and go home, right?
47:47Because that was the only reason why she's there. But if she's like, oh, well,
47:51I'm already in South Africa. I already have a hotel. Me and Rory are going to go sightseeing.
47:55Then you know, this was what the plan was all along. She had a plan. Then she had a backup
48:00plan. And I'm not against backup plans. You know, I get it. Everybody should have a backup plan
48:06unless it's another relationship. Why do you need a relationship so bad you have to have one
48:13for backup? Well, yeah. You don't bring your backup relationship to your new relationship
48:20meeting. That's like going on a date and bringing your backup date to your date. And they're like,
48:26well, if my date doesn't work out, my backup date's already here so we can just sit down and
48:30eat. No one does that, right? That's crazy to me. And I understand that you don't, I mean,
48:36meeting someone you don't know is crazy and scary, but you met him with a camera crew.
48:40So if he was an axe murderer, there was a camera crew with you. So you weren't by yourself.
48:45So you were never really in danger, right? Because there's a whole camera crew following
48:49you around. So you don't really need to bring. That was the other thing I was going to point
48:53out about Vanya and Bozo. Like, mom's praying that I pray that you meet a woman.
49:00There must be cameras around here for something. So I hope it's for a woman.
49:04Come on.
49:06She is so ready. I love her. She's like my new favorite cast member because she's just like,
49:13because she was like, a woman? You met a woman? And she looked up to the sky like, thank you.
49:19Thank you, please.
49:19The fact that her name, hold on, I have her name. I have to find it.
49:26The fact that her name is actually Marijana.
49:31Are you serious?
49:34I'm sure it's Marijana.
49:36So like marijuana.
49:38M-A-R-I-J-A-N-A. I was dying.
49:43I miss that. But her vibe is totally like that, right? Like totally chill. I totally get that.
49:54I was like, I feel like your parents named you that by accident, but it's okay.
50:00They were probably high at the time. It was a good stash. And they're like,
50:05you know what we should call her? Marijana, right?
50:08We should call her blunt. And the mom's like, no, something smoother, like Marijana.
50:15I can totally see it. The vibe from her was so chill. She was just like,
50:22oh, this is my son. I wish he would get married. I wish he would get out of my house.
50:28The fact that she was praying and she's like, I pray every day that some woman will come and
50:34take this dude off my hands. I just pray that he will become somebody else's problem. I just love
50:40her. Cause I was like, that's how a lot of these mothers should be. Remember when Debbie was on
50:45the show with Colton and she was trying to make it seem like Larissa wasn't good enough for Colton.
50:49I'd be like, ma'am, you need to be happy that somebody is trying to marry your son. I'm not
50:54saying that your son isn't all that, but he is not. He's not the cream of the crop. Okay.
50:58What do you mean not all that? He's not even a little of that.
51:02Well, she made it seem like he needed to be with the first lady of the country and any woman that
51:10he met. Remember she didn't like Jess. She didn't like Larissa. She just thought everybody was no
51:14good for her son. And I was like, see, I like Madrona because she's like, are you a woman?
51:20Do you have a pulse? You should marry my son. Right? She was like, wait, you're alive. You're
51:28not terminally ill. You should marry my son. You have an up and a house. Oh my gosh. You
51:34are heaven sent. Well, the fact that she has four jobs, Vanja's got four jobs. I feel like
51:40she's a good target for someone like him. I just really want her to know her worth though.
51:46Like if you were getting ready to get on a plane for a man and you call the man and he doesn't
51:50answer the phone, don't get on the plane. Screw that dude. You know what I'm saying? Like it
51:55takes five seconds, two seconds to pick up the phone and say, Hey, and see what's going on.
51:59What if she was calling because there was an issue, you know?
52:04Her flight, she missed her flight.
52:06Well, yeah, you're right. She needed to tell him, Hey, don't be here at this time,
52:09be here at this time. He doesn't even bother to pick up the phone. It's like, ladies,
52:13if he can't answer your texts or call you back, he's not the one. You can't lower your standards,
52:21you know, to the fact where you call somebody five, six, seven times and they don't answer.
52:25Because I don't know anybody in this world who has a cell phone that doesn't know when it's
52:32ringing. Right? I there's that meme that I share all the time when my phone rings,
52:36I know it's ringing. If it's a certain certain people, I'm not going to answer it.
52:40But I know it's ringing. Right? So when I look at it, and I'm like,
52:46if I don't pick up, you know, I saw don't don't nobody can sit here and lie to you and say,
52:51I had not see your call. Bullshit. I know what my phone everybody knows when their phone is ringing.
52:56Their caller ID is whether or not we're going to talk to you. And he knew, right, he knew that
53:02manager was calling and he didn't want to talk to her. And that's an issue for me. Like you're
53:06a 38 year old unemployed man who lives with his mom and this beautiful woman with four jobs is
53:11flying across the world and all she wants you to do is pick up and you can't pick up. That's an
53:15issue for me. Yeah, absolutely. All right. So Oh, yeah. And this episode Tiger Lily and Adnan
53:23were in there and she was leaving. There wasn't really much to talk about. So she was surprised
53:27that it was hard to leave him because everything surprises Tiger Lily, you know, it's actually she
53:32just doesn't have any foresight. Because she's like, Oh, I didn't realize that it would be
53:38difficult to leave him. And I'm like, so you've never like gotten on a plane and left anybody
53:42before? Did you think it was gonna be fun? Right? Do you think it was gonna be fun? Like when you
53:45left your parents house to go to college? Was it fun? No, it's usually a sad situation. Like
53:50she irritates me because everything is a surprise to her.
53:52I'm so irritated with this couple already. I mean, I've been irritated from the beginning.
53:58But the fact that they keep talking about building a family and starting a family and blah, blah,
54:04blah. What about combining a family and adding on to it? We're not even talking about her kids.
54:09No, she brought up her kids for the first time tonight when she said, I'm excited to get back
54:15home to see my kids. And I was like, holy shit, you have kids.
54:19That was in the ITM.
54:23I'm still not convinced Adnan knows she has children. I'm not convinced. And I'm like really
54:29questioning if she hid that from him. Because even when he was saying he wanted to have kids,
54:33he didn't say, well, yeah, I want to have kids so your son and daughter could have a brother.
54:37No, he just said, I want to have a family. I'm not convinced that she told them. And I mean,
54:42again, he's pretty airheaded.
54:43A boy and a girl, like, that's what I've got. That's what she should have said. She has a boy
54:50and a girl.
54:51Right. And when he said that, she was like, I don't know if I want to have kids. She didn't
54:55say, I don't want to know if I don't want to have more kids.
54:58No, she goes, me too. She agreed, me too.
55:02Oh, did she?
55:04Yeah.
55:04She said that she wanted to have more kids? What a weirdo.
55:06Me too. Me too.
55:08I'm not convinced. I don't know what's going on with them. I'm confused. Did you see he posted
55:15like a photo or a video today of him riding in a private jet?
55:18No.
55:18I don't know what's going on with them. And I'm like, is he rich? Because, you know,
55:22we saw that one photo of I think Sean Kingston pretending he was in a private jet. He wasn't,
55:27or maybe it was Little Bow Wow. I don't remember. So you can't really believe everything you see
55:31on the internet. So I don't know. Because that wedding that they had was nice. Right? So I'm
55:37confused if they're rich, or if they're just really good at pretending to be rich. So I'm
55:42not even sure.
55:43Yeah, I don't know either. But they bug the shit out of me.
55:48Well, yeah, they're my least favorite this season. Like when I see them, they're like
55:51my Sarper and Shekinah.
55:52I don't know. Renee is definitely my least favorite. But Tiger Lily's in close.
55:59Oh, yeah. She irritates me. She irks me. I think it's her voice. All right. So we're
56:05gonna come back tomorrow. Guys, we made it through with no technical issues. I'm so happy.
56:11So we're gonna come back tomorrow. We're gonna talk about The Other Way, which I think is
56:16Episode 17 already. We're on Episode 17. Oh, there's another couple on Before the 90 Days.
56:22This was Episode 8, that we still haven't met. So I'm assuming things are going to go
56:28south with Sunny and Vea and also with Rain and, not Rain, Renee and Chitty. So I think
56:37that's going to open up the slot.
56:39And also, Tiger Lily's going home. So her story's done for a while.
56:43Well, right. All they could really do is when she gets home is follow her applying for the
56:48visa. And then you're right, nothing, we're not gonna really see anything else with that.
56:51Because they don't want to, they don't film you separately. It's just when you're there.
56:54So there'll be one more couple that we're gonna meet on this season. And then it's another
56:59Florida, another Orlando, I'm pretty sure. So we're gonna meet that person soon.
57:04We know so far, as you end up with people like Mary and Brandon.
57:09Don't even get me started. I can't with them. Okay, we're gonna come back tomorrow from The
57:14Other Way and Mama's Boy. I love Mama's Boy as well. If you guys aren't watching
57:18Thousand Pound Sisters, we're gonna do like a little recap on that sometime this week too.
57:23There's a lot of drama, like a lot. Like I was watching and they don't even know. Yeah,
57:27it's good. So we're gonna get into that too. Make sure to follow my co-host,
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