Why can't the Bruins beat the Florida Panthers? | Bear With Me
The Bruins fall to the Florida Panthers, even without the help of Matthew Tkachuk and Aleksander Barkov. Joey Copponi and Rob Tocci break down where the Bruins fell short, address the top lines' scoring issues, reassess the defensive core, and react to the countless altercations between Boston and Florida. All that, and much more!
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00:00Welcome back to bear with me.
00:19The Boston Bruins are two, two and oh, and that is good enough for technically second
00:24in the Atlantic, technically second in the Eastern Conference and like fifth or something
00:32in the National Hockey League.
00:34My name's Joey Capone.
00:35That's Rob Tucci.
00:36Rob, how you doing, man?
00:37I'm okay.
00:38That I didn't care for that loss.
00:39I, you know, I don't want to go too far here, but I don't, I don't like these Florida Panthers
00:46characters very much.
00:48Rob, take it easy.
00:49I know.
00:50I know.
00:51And I, you know what?
00:52I'll walk it back.
00:54This is a family show.
00:55We can't be talking like that.
00:56Yeah.
00:57Yeah.
00:58That, that hurt.
00:59That one hurt.
01:00Yeah, it did.
01:01So we're coming off of the Bruins losing four to three to the Florida Panthers.
01:05Seemingly the Bruins will only be losing to Florida this season and Florida will only
01:10be winning against Boston.
01:12So it's better for us than it is for them.
01:15So we're going to go 78 and four, but they're only going to go in four and 78.
01:22No overtime games.
01:23Checkmate.
01:24What you're saying, what you're saying is it is perfectly logical to extrapolate this
01:30four game sample over the course of 82.
01:34Math is whatever we want it to be.
01:40And self-serving is what I want it to be.
01:43The good news is being on pace for 41 wins is 92 points at the least.
01:52Silver lining.
01:53Silver lining.
01:54That's a player.
01:55Bear with me.
01:56Are very optimistic.
01:57Oh, that was a brutal game.
01:58That was a brutal game.
01:59A winnable game.
02:00A game with some stupid mistakes and a very frustrating one.
02:05It's too early for this.
02:08I don't want it.
02:09I don't know if I can stomach like six fights at 1 p.m.
02:13I don't know if you meant in the season or the day.
02:16Both.
02:17Yeah.
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42:00Yeah.
42:01It's fine.
42:02They still look good, they look good on the ice, they look good on TV but I can't shake
42:05the feeling of like it felt like a very good time to move on to another jersey.
42:09Like you had them for a while.
42:10Yeah.
42:11You had the centennial year, these were like jerseys that we all grew to really love, and
42:15then you ... let's just go back.
42:18Yeah.
42:19Well the thing is if you had a real company in charge of the jerseys then we probably
42:22could have.
42:23probably like that idea didn't he wasn't even a reality because
42:27again, like, you know, Timu is running the fucking jerseys.
42:33There does seem to be a special a new centennial jersey that
42:38will be worn in the centennial game against Montreal later
42:42this year until it isn't until it is not.
42:47I actually think I actually think they announced that they're
42:49going to have it and I think that's not going to be ready.
42:51That'd be pretty hilarious.
42:53That'd be so bad for I think it's a fanatics, but like they're
42:57fine.
42:58They're set.
42:58They have these deadlines mean nothing for them.
43:01They're fine.
43:02They already won the bidding war to get the contract.
43:05What do they care?
43:06Yeah, they don't they simply don't they make it evident every
43:09single day.
43:09They don't care.
43:11Unbelievable on believable.
43:16Yeah.
43:17Yeah, it's it's a would have preferred New Jersey's.
43:22Yeah, not the state.
43:24No, definitely not the state.
43:26Certainly not.
43:26Nobody prefers, New Jersey.
43:28I would have I would have liked to have a new one.
43:32But here's the thing.
43:33I'm glad they didn't transition to a full-time bad Jersey.
43:38How about that?
43:39Because that could have happened, you know, there is a reality
43:41where we have these God awful gaudy jerseys and we're like we
43:44couldn't have just gone back to the jerseys before or I'm also
43:48glad they didn't just say like the Centennial is the Bruins
43:51Jersey.
43:51Now, I would have been fine with that.
43:53It might have undermined the glitter all time all the time.
43:58I grew I grew to like it not I didn't like the glitter
44:01specifically, but I grew to it didn't bother me all the time
44:06like your main Jersey every year is like, you know, glittering.
44:11I don't know.
44:11I maintain that the reverse the Pooh bear reverse retro kits.
44:15The full kit is the best kit.
44:17I've seen the Bruins wear maybe since their old third alternates
44:22with that like the big yellow bear logo on the front black and
44:25gold bear logo in front.
44:28The black and gold bear logo.
44:30You remember that Bruins Jersey?
44:31It was black and gold.
44:32There was a bear.
44:34Yeah.
44:34Yeah, not that one either.
44:37The other one.
44:37No.
44:37Yeah, the one with the bear.
44:38No, not that one.
44:40Oh, you mean the one that had like the like the bear on it?
44:43Yeah.
44:43Yeah.
44:44No, I need to see you get it.
44:45You get it.
44:45Yeah, I get it.
44:46I get it.
44:46I get it.
44:47Yeah.
44:47No, I'm looking at it again.
44:49It's just so good.
44:51The the Pooh bear or the old thirds the the Pooh bear.
44:55Yeah, the Pooh bear the white Pooh bear and was just so good
44:58of it.
44:59Some good news bad news about the Panthers hit me bad news is
45:03we have to play them two more times.
45:04The good news.
45:05We don't have to play him again till early January.
45:08It's a long way away.
45:09Forget about them for three months.
45:11I know I will.
45:13I'll try.
45:14Also, what's up with the AJ Greer villain arc?
45:18AJ Greer is a bad man who is not welcome here and never played
45:23him anymore.
45:24No, we don't like him anymore.
45:25We used to but now we don't like him.
45:27So we fucking hate him.
45:28Yeah, he was in Calgary last year.
45:32Was he?
45:33Yeah, that's what I'm told.
45:34He was in Calgary and I don't know if I don't know if you
45:37played thought it was your turn to keep track of him.
45:39That's my bad.
45:39I I left him with you.
45:41Oh shit.
45:43Oh, no.
45:44All right.
45:44Yeah, let's check.
45:45They're never going to let us have kids.
45:47Last year he played.
45:51You just not want to tell me that's okay.
45:53It's a secret.
45:54Yeah.
45:55So last year he did he played in Calgary played 59 games in
45:57Calgary 12 points.
46:00Yeah, 35 penalty minutes a far cry from his 114 in Boston.
46:12Points penalty minutes.
46:15Oh, it's like how long did he played here?
46:20Decade.
46:21He matched.
46:22He matched his point total 12 12 and 12 and he has two in the
46:27first three games this year.
46:28So naturally that two weeks ago would have been like good for
46:31him.
46:31And now I'm like he can go fuck himself.
46:34Yeah, see you later.
46:36Yeah.
46:37I don't know what that's about.
46:38But every time a guy fights a player on their prior team or
46:46on a previous team that they were on built up tension.
46:49It's like I wanted to do this like couldn't exactly do it
46:53makes me think like, oh you hit there.
46:54This has been brewing.
46:55There was something there nice and brewing.
46:58And to do it twice in a week is like, oh, so you fucking hated
47:04these guys.
47:05I don't know why that it doesn't have to be the case doesn't
47:08even have to be a player that was here when you were here.
47:10But now in my head, I'm like he never wanted to play in Boston.
47:14He hated it here.
47:15He didn't the guys weren't supportive enough of his DJ career
47:18or whatever.
47:18It was was he DJ.
47:20He was AJ Greer was the DJ.
47:22Yes.
47:23Yeah, EDM artists.
47:24Yeah.
47:24Yeah.
47:25There was like one video that the Bruins put out like a pump
47:29up video and they used his music, which was pretty cool at
47:32the time.
47:32That was good.
47:33Yeah, but that was cool.
47:34That was cool.
47:34That was nice.
47:35I do.
47:36I do love on ice like one-on-one rivalries like within the
47:39game in the LA game Zdorov and you know, we're going at it
47:46all game long.
47:46It's star.
47:47I think it started was the door of boarding him and then like
47:52he was out of the box and then his next shift door of lit him
47:55up again and then he did it again and then they were like
48:00near each other in front of the net after a whistle and you
48:02know, it starts like jabbing at him and Zdorov.
48:05It's just like what what do you want with this problem?
48:08You ever know you see that big scar?
48:10He has he looks like a Bond villain.
48:12Yeah, he does.
48:12He looks like you're like no one looks like that.
48:15He looks like the like the lead henchman.
48:17Yeah.
48:17Yeah, exactly.
48:18He's the he's the only henchman with a name and you know
48:21what his name would be Zdorov.
48:25Yeah, he'll have an acting career.
48:27He'll be in the next Bond movie.
48:28I'm calling it.
48:29I can see him.
48:30Yeah, post-career bodybuilding Venture followed by Batista.
48:36Yeah.
48:37Yeah.
48:37Yeah.
48:37Yeah.
48:37Yeah.
48:38Who did the opposite?
48:39Just lost a bunch of muscle on pretty did I TD Garden?
48:43I want to I want to say TD Gardens been rocking to start
48:45this year real loud.
48:46Really loud.
48:47Not like, you know, not surprised but you know, like with
48:51the team you're like a 82 game season like, you know, October
48:55just get up to speed like would like to stay above 500 but
49:00like for the garden for the crowd like now ready to rock boys.
49:04Yeah in girls.
49:05Let's go.
49:06Yeah.
49:07No, it's been loud like it's especially with how bad the
49:12officiating has been whenever the officials go to announce
49:16a penalty.
49:17You can't hear them.
49:18I know you can't hear them.
49:20It's yelling like, oh, well, they're mic'd up.
49:24They have to yell to be heard even Judd and Brick were like,
49:27I didn't hear what that call was.
49:30I really only heard the first half of it like on the matching
49:32or what they thought was matching minors for like the Martian
49:35scrum at the very end of the game.
49:36They're like, I didn't really catch it to be honest with you
49:38because can't really hear him down there.
49:40Yeah in the LA game.
49:42There was a mistripping call a Martian from Juneau and they
49:45didn't call it and big huge booze and then very shortly after
49:48they called pasta for a slash and then when they call that
49:51you couldn't hear him.
49:52Also speaking of posture not being called for a slash.
49:55Yeah.
49:57The stick on stick slashing call to me is the worst penalty
50:05in the NHL, which really is saying something because there's
50:08a few doozies in the rule book and just in practice.
50:13Why is that slash like?
50:15Why is you dropping the stick constitute a penalty?
50:19That's so that ended the game that ended the game against
50:22Florida.
50:22It did.
50:23I understand the rule being like if you break your opponent's
50:28stick automatic call that I get because you're like you're
50:32removing them from the play at that point.
50:35Yeah, because if you didn't then you're incentivizing them
50:37from like putting their full weight into it and doing it over
50:40and yeah, but like dropping your stick.
50:43Yeah, that's ridiculous.
50:44It's ridiculous.
50:45And like but I mean the thing is there was a couple of soft
50:47calls just devil's advocate.
50:48There's a couple soft call that March and call like to make
50:52it four on four when he got called for tripping because he
50:54like dipsy do somebody and he fell like there was contact
50:59with the guy but he got through it skated a few steps and
51:03then fell and then they're like and up.
51:05Yeah, so I don't know.
51:07There's a couple of there's a couple of gross calls but like
51:09that being one of the officiating was just ugly today and
51:12not even that it was swayed against the Bruins or anything.
51:14It was just bad.
51:16They did a bad job keeping it in in check.
51:18They did a bad job with consistency bad job with matching
51:20minors bad job defusing a situation that was getting out
51:23of control some some bad whistles some dumb penalties like
51:29it was just bad and it wasn't like I said didn't even really
51:31affect the game.
51:32I guess other than that posture knock one, but like I can't
51:35even get upset about that or point to that is like the reason
51:38they lost the game.
51:39It was just ugly to watch and it just bad officiating in the
51:44game of hockey is impossible to ignore because it directly
51:47affects the game the speed of the game the power plays they
51:50show you replays.
51:51You're like, what are these guys doing?
51:54And that's just kind of what I felt like watching this game
51:56is like, what are they doing?
52:00Anyway, frustrating one frustrating one, but it's a big time
52:02game. So a lot of these matinees, they don't even really
52:05count, you know, no, they don't they yeah, no points awarded
52:08for this game.
52:10We'll go to the next one next game.
52:11The one against Colorado is on TNT.
52:15So Brad Martian will probably be scoring because he is Mr.
52:17TNT.
52:18He loves the spotlight.
52:19He loves something about national games where he knows there's
52:21more people watching him.
52:22He likes to stick it to everybody.
52:24Yeah, but I know Colorado oh two and oh right now frustrating
52:28start for them.
52:29They've been scoring but they've been letting in a letting
52:31in a lot Georgia.
52:32So long.
52:33I want you to I want you to hear the goaltending stats right
52:35now.
52:36Yeah, as soon as I find it.
52:39Yeah, find it.
52:40Georgia has a 7.75 goals allowed.
52:45I'm sorry, 680 save percentage.
52:48Holy cow.
52:50Yeah, he's letting a Coles and on 33 shots.
52:54That's very bad.
52:55He got pulled from both games to start the season which and
53:00I was watching a video but apparently this is like not a
53:02typical for him, right?
53:04So he's a huge roller coaster where he will just like be
53:08wet garbage for a period of time and then just be absolutely
53:12lights out but that that must be very frustrating but I hope
53:16we can take advantage and I hope that Bruins put up seven
53:20on them.
53:21How nice would that feel so good?
53:24This is also a good deed.
53:26So good.
53:29We talked about this in a previous episode discussing does
53:34the size of the Boston Bruins necessarily mean that they're
53:37also a slow team and we're like, okay, well a good challenge
53:42will be against one of those those fast West Coast teams like
53:46the Colorado Avalanche.
53:48Sure.
53:48So I think this will be a very I'm very curious to see how
53:52the speed of this game goes.
53:54Yeah, but a 9 9 30 p.m.
53:57Start on a Wednesday.
53:59It's kind of perfect to face a fast team that's struggling,
54:04you know, okay, force to keep up to speed, you know, get your
54:08wheels under you see the game move that quick, but also they're
54:12struggling a little bit.
54:13It's like you're not seeing them when they're at their best.
54:15I think it's great.
54:16It's great.
54:18It's great.
54:18I'm going to kill my son.
54:20It's great.
54:21Nobody's going to get that reference at all.
54:24You and I can do that, but nobody's going to understand the
54:26cannoli murder reference.
54:29It's a YouTube classic.
54:31I think it's also about to kill my son is the line, by the
54:34way, but go out to kill my son.
54:36They let up six Colorado.
54:37Let up six goals to the Blue Jackets.
54:40So not good.
54:42Blue Jackets.
54:43Who are Valley pick to win the draft lottery.
54:47Say that again.
54:48The same Blue Jackets that are Sierra Valley's pick to win
54:51the draft lottery with a little help.
54:55I want to read that like a movie with a little help with a
54:58little help this in heaven.
55:04It's a Pixar movie with a little help from beyond.
55:08I don't want to go any further with this because I'm going
55:10to say something terrible.
55:11Yeah, no, but that's whatever.
55:14That is what he fucking said.
55:15He did.
55:16No, we're just repeating.
55:18Yeah.
55:19No, but yeah, a tough loss against for today as brick, but
55:22he's like, it's a tough game to knock at any points out of
55:24and that's the way playing it over time.
55:26I guess what it felt better.
55:28Yeah.
55:28I would have been, you know, you managed to get the the high
55:31of tying it late in the game, which they almost did a handful
55:33of times.
55:34Just get it over time or like and if even if you lose on
55:37the first shift, it's like, all right.
55:38Well, we stole a point out of it at least and against a
55:42divisional opponent who late in this season, you may still
55:47be competing with.
55:49Yeah, I would imagine the Panthers are not going to be in
55:52a like position in like March where they're worrying about
55:57making the playoffs, but I don't like straight up losing
56:02to Atlantic division teams.
56:03I really, really don't.
56:05Those are when I above all, I want a point and especially
56:09in a one goal game, especially in one goal game.
56:12Yeah, I really think they have a shot at the division.
56:14So I would like to see them not be losing to divisional
56:17opponents as well.
56:18That's how I feel about this team.
56:19When I when I want a team to win.
56:21I want them to win most of the time.
56:24Yeah, I look if you can get your fourth line to even have
56:28like 70% of this consistency and then you start getting
56:34the top six warming up like you start getting I don't even
56:37say more from possible.
56:38He's been good.
56:39Like you get coil on the board.
56:40You geeky in the board.
56:42You got a Martian scoring.
56:43Martian doesn't have a goal yet that I think you're in a
56:46good spot because the contributions from the blue line have
56:48been great.
56:50Yeah, really good.
56:51Carla with the goal door over the couple points or at least
56:54a point peaks been looking very good.
56:57Like Laura's offensive instincts are great.
57:00So I I do think that it were not far away from firing on
57:05most cylinders.
57:07Yeah.
57:08Yeah, I got so I got all I got but we're going to be we're
57:17going to be coming at you guys twice a week.
57:18We already told you that and we've already been doing that
57:21but we will be here with you pretty regularly here.
57:28I think that you see it.
57:29Yeah good get used to it.
57:32Yeah, we have a Thursday nights Friday Friday mornings for
57:36you guys and Sunday nights on Sunday Sunday morning Sunday
57:40days.
57:41I like that.
57:42What do you think of that?
57:43Yeah works on the schedule.
57:45So we'll always be talking right after a game which would
57:48mean we talk after the avalanche game.
57:50So we'll do just one game off and then we'll come back and
57:52talk to you guys.
57:55And then I left to the Utah game.
57:57So then another one.
57:59Maybe we'll maybe we'll push that.
58:00We'll see whatever.
58:03Yeah after the Stars game after the Leafs game after the
58:08Hurricanes game kind of works out.
58:10These are all the all the good games for the next month or
58:12two.
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