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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, we welcome you to our first program of the week.
00:14I am your host, Awar Guman.
00:16Today our house is full.
00:19Mr. Naqvi is with us from Europe.
00:22Mr. Hassan Ayub has visited Europe and is with me in the studio.
00:27And one and only Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Saint is with us in Lahore.
00:30Dear viewers, in Pakistan, unfortunately, as a media person, there are a few issues going on.
00:38All the political debates are revolving around them.
00:43Until these issues are resolved, we will not move forward.
00:47Obviously, the government is putting pressure on this.
00:50The opposition is making all kinds of excuses on this.
00:53They have also jumped into different organizations.
00:56As you know, a new Constitutional Code has been made.
01:00We are talking about that.
01:02In addition to this, the cases in the Supreme Court are going on.
01:06Today another letter has come forward.
01:09We will keep the details in front of you.
01:11Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman has put everyone behind him.
01:15Every day, a different, new statement of his comes forward.
01:20To understand that statement, you know, different commentaries start.
01:25Everyone starts explaining Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman's statement as per their convenience.
01:30But today's program, dear viewers, we will start today.
01:34The events that are taking place in the Middle East right now.
01:39And things are moving forward in such a horrific way.
01:43You see media from all over the world.
01:46You see big newspapers.
01:48There is a consensus in those newspapers that the Middle East is surviving at the edge.
01:56God willing, things are moving towards a big war.
02:01The Americans have sent more troops to the Middle East.
02:05They have been issued the highest level alert.
02:09Now it is happening that for the last two months,
02:15the Israelis have been doing targeted killing in this way.
02:20Their enemies, especially the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah,
02:27are facing a new history in terms of use of technology.
02:32We will keep a chronology in front of you.
02:36The first incident is on 30 July 2024.
02:40The commander of Hezbollah, Fawad Shukr is his name.
02:44He was martyred in an air strike.
02:47After that, on 31 July 2024,
02:50Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was also martyred in an air strike in Iran.
02:54This was a very big incident.
02:56On 18 September 2024,
02:58the Lebanese government used Hezbollah in Beirut
03:02and other religious organizations in Syria.
03:07The pagers they were using exploded.
03:10This was an unprecedented and unique incident.
03:13The Israeli system fitted the pagers so well that all of them exploded at once.
03:21Next day, on 19 September 2024,
03:25the walkie-talkies used by Hezbollah in Beirut started exploding.
03:30Last week, Israel targeted Hezbollah's eight high-level commanders.
03:39On 27 September, the biggest incident
03:43was at Hezbollah's headquarters in Beirut
03:46as a result of an Israeli air strike.
03:48Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrullah
03:51was martyred along with the commanders of Hezbollah's 20 commanders.
03:59This was done with great precision.
04:03The bomb was dropped on an underground bunker.
04:09The bomb was dropped using a technology
04:16that caused the bomb to explode.
04:22The dead bodies were not damaged.
04:27But the way the bomb was dropped,
04:30the bomb exploded and hit the ground.
04:35All of this was witnessed.
04:38First, let's go to Haider Nabi.
04:41I don't know if he is in the house.
04:43Mr. Nabi, all these incidents in Europe,
04:46especially in the Middle East,
04:48how is the European media covering them?
04:53Because the Western world, including America,
05:00is celebrating the martyrdom of Hassan Nasrullah.
05:05They are saying that Israel had the right to self-defense.
05:12This is a great success.
05:17In the coming days, if the need arises,
05:20we will do it.
05:22We are here to protect Israel.
05:24Mr. Nagvi, what is the reaction of the local media and the public?
05:30First of all, I pray to God that there is no war
05:34that will cause a lot of damage to human lives.
05:37There should be no such war.
05:39The Arab community has increased a lot in Europe and the UK
05:44in the past 10-12 years.
05:46Especially in Europe,
05:48because after the Arab war,
05:50the Syrian war and the Yemen war,
05:52and Iraq,
05:54many Arabs have settled here.
05:56The Chancellor of Germany gave many Arabs a chance to live here.
06:00So, what you said,
06:02what is the reaction or what is the impression,
06:04it is a mix.
06:06Obviously, they are regretting it.
06:08They are mourning it.
06:10It is a great loss for the world.
06:12It is a great loss for the world's peace.
06:14Such great leaders,
06:16such as Hassan Nasrullah or Ismail Hania,
06:19such great leaders have a lot of importance in the world.
06:23If they are harmed,
06:25it is obvious that there is a reaction.
06:27I pray to God that this reaction is such that humanity remains.
06:31I pray to God that this reaction is such that
06:33human lives are at least harmed.
06:35And I pray to God that this world moves forward in peace.
06:38Yes.
06:39Okay, Mr. Ghulam Sain,
06:41the Muslim word, IOC,
06:43you know OIC,
06:45a statement is made in reference to it.
06:48But these incidents,
06:50there is a big English word on it,
06:52muted response.
06:54There is a very silent response.
06:56There is no clear statement.
06:58It seems that the Muslim word is also divided.
07:02It is obvious that the relationship between Iran and Saudi Arabia
07:06has been there over the decades.
07:08Keeping that in mind,
07:10the Muslim word is not coming forward as a united front.
07:15It is not coming at all.
07:17They have been massacred.
07:1940,000-50,000 people.
07:21First they were martyred in Gaza.
07:23Now their leadership and companions are being martyred.
07:27So this is the massacre of Muslims.
07:30They are cutting and throwing things.
07:33And we are in a dream.
07:39And we think that it is not our turn.
07:42This cannot happen.
07:44And this is very wrong.
07:46And Muslims will have to get up,
07:48wake up and fight.
07:50Otherwise, one by one,
07:52they will destroy all the countries.
07:56They have attacked Syria again.
07:58After Lebanon, they are also talking about Jordan.
08:01They will not leave anyone.
08:03Hassan, you have recently come back from Europe.
08:06The Israeli Prime Minister has said that
08:09no one will be able to escape our long arms.
08:13And wherever we had to go,
08:15in whichever country we had to go,
08:17he did not name the country.
08:19We will go against our enemies.
08:21Pakistan has condemned.
08:23Obviously, what can we do?
08:25Of course, other countries have condemned
08:27along with the rest of the world.
08:29But the way Israel is doing this,
08:33there is full endorsement behind it,
08:35the Western world and especially America.
08:38All the weaponry is being used by the Americans.
08:41They are highly sophisticated.
08:43Finance?
08:44Exactly.
08:45They have paid 6-8 billion dollars.
08:49They have controlled the markets of America and the West.
08:55The Jewish businessmen,
08:58they do a lot of work.
09:00They have a lot of money.
09:01We are a billion-plus Muslim world.
09:03No.
09:04In terms of strength,
09:06we will be more than them in terms of money
09:08because our population is more.
09:10The thing is that they consider themselves superior.
09:13The Jews consider themselves superior.
09:16And they think that we are the chosen ones.
09:18Muslims, Christians, Hindus,
09:20all of them are lower than us.
09:22One thing.
09:23Your question about the West,
09:25specifically, is very unfortunate.
09:27The way Europe and West America project Ukraine,
09:31the way they talk about human rights violations there,
09:34they have a complete blind eye
09:37when it comes to the Muslim world.
09:39First, you look at Gaza,
09:41what is happening in Lebanon.
09:43They are targeting.
09:44Okay.
09:45Hassan Nasrullah was a big name.
09:47And his time is up.
09:49We are Muslims.
09:51We believe that when my time is up,
09:53I will not meet anyone in the world for no reason.
09:55This was Allah's command.
09:56Now, the Muslims have to see
09:59how they can shut down the OSCE
10:01and the Arab League.
10:03I don't think it has any effect.
10:05Just to sit in a debating club,
10:07their condition has become worse.
10:09So, there is a wake-up call for everyone
10:12on the fundamental front.
10:14This is what Chuddi Ghulam Hussain is saying.
10:16No, this is a wake-up call.
10:18And the second thing he was saying
10:19that they will target one by one.
10:20So, Mr. Chuddi, let me tell you one thing.
10:22Neither is Pakistan Iran,
10:24nor is Pakistan Lebanon.
10:26The day Israel turns towards Pakistan,
10:29God willing, we will get such an answer
10:31that if there is no other country in between
10:34and there is Israel in Pakistan,
10:35then I think Israel will not even take out two weeks
10:37and we would have occupied Israel.
10:39God willing, we should have confidence in our defense capabilities
10:43and have faith in Allah.
10:44Ladies and gentlemen,
10:45Pakistan is the only Muslim country.
10:47Alhamdulillah, we have nuclear weapons.
10:50In front of the whole world,
10:52we have clearly shown our capabilities to the world.
10:55And it has also been said that we are not that kind of person
10:58that no first use.
10:59If someone tries to do such a thing on us,
11:01we will respond with the full force.
11:03There will be no delay in this.
11:04I want to say something.
11:05Yes, please, please, go ahead.
11:06Hassan Bhai has said a very good thing about Israel.
11:10I want to tell you about a tattoo of Israel on India.
11:12His Interior Minister has just given a statement
11:14that you are running around asking for 7 billion dollars.
11:17You should have asked us.
11:18So I want to tell them to first make toilets in their country.
11:21First, give the 34 crore people who sleep on the streets a house.
11:24First, give them a face for the separatist movements
11:26that are going on in the 29th to 22nd provinces.
11:28Then talk about this for Pakistan.
11:30Okay.
11:31Viewers, let's move towards our routine program in Pakistan.
11:34The biggest problem at the moment is that
11:36the institutions are different.
11:39As you know, there is a different opinion from the parliament.
11:42It is the opinion of the opposition on specific sessions.
11:46And since the executive is born from the parliament,
11:49the government of the time says that
11:51we did not accept the Supreme Court's decisions.
11:54And the senior judges of the Supreme Court
11:56are writing letters to each other.
11:58You will remember the other day,
12:00a coordination was brought by the government of the time.
12:04The committee of practice and procedure
12:06was changed.
12:08With two senior members,
12:10the third member, Mouni Bakhtar, was terminated.
12:13Justice Qazi Faiz Ishaq was given the authority
12:16to appoint a member of his choice.
12:19And after that, the committee was reconstituted.
12:23A letter was written to him,
12:25which was raised by the senior judge,
12:27Justice Mansoor Ali Shah.
12:30He said that this was an original idea
12:34that we have to bring democracy in the Supreme Court.
12:38He referred to the Raja Amar case against him.
12:41And then he said that if the original committee did not sit,
12:44then I will not be a part of this committee.
12:47After that, he did not sit in this committee.
12:50The rest of the committees,
12:52like Zameen-ud-Din, were nominated by Qazi Faiz Ishaq.
12:55That committee then formed a bench under 63A.
12:59Today, the first hearing of that five-member bench
13:03was to hear the case on 63A.
13:06The Supreme Court Bar Association
13:08has sent a review petition.
13:10Viewers, let me give you a little reference.
13:12What is 63A?
13:13Basically, 63A is that a political party,
13:16its parliamentary leader,
13:18if he denies his MNA,
13:20or if he does not vote for the senator,
13:22then he cannot vote for the defection clause
13:24on the Prime Minister's election,
13:26on the Finance Bill,
13:27and on the constitutional amendment.
13:29If he votes, then his seat will be terminated.
13:33You will remember 63A in Punjab.
13:36When the case came,
13:37the vote of no confidence was for Hamza Shahbaz.
13:40At that time, the Supreme Court of Pakistan
13:42went to the Supreme Court of Justice.
13:44Earlier, if a MNA or senator defects,
13:49goes against party policy,
13:50his vote was counted,
13:52but his seat was terminated.
13:54The Supreme Court has decided
13:55that his vote will not be counted,
13:57and his seat will also be terminated.
14:00This was the case against him.
14:02Today, when this bench is sitting,
14:05Judge Muneeb Akhtar,
14:06who is the third-ranked senior judge,
14:08has written this.
14:10He has written a letter to
14:12Respected Justice Qazi Faiz Yusuf.
14:15He has expressed his concerns.
14:17This is his letter, viewers.
14:19There are three or four paragraphs of the letter.
14:22We have translated it into Urdu.
14:24We will put it in front of you.
14:26He is saying that there was 63A in the Supreme Court.
14:29This is a second-hand case.
14:31The second-hand request of the Supreme Court
14:33was made again in the name of Pakistan, etc.
14:36which is scheduled to be heard
14:38in front of the five-point bench today.
14:40This bench was formed
14:42under an administrative ordinance
14:44on 23rd September.
14:46During this time, the senior penal judge
14:48through his 23rd September note
14:51raised a number of important questions
14:54and raised issues regarding the ordinance.
14:57After that, the Chief Justice
14:59responded to that note
15:01through his letter on 25th September.
15:03Instead of answering the questions
15:05raised on the serious legal reservations
15:07of the senior penal judge,
15:09he responded.
15:11Unfortunately,
15:13a part of the letter
15:15was based on his character
15:17and a part was based
15:19on his self-expression.
15:21It is unfortunate that
15:23the Chief Justice himself
15:25was involved in this matter.
15:27He did not respond to the legal questions
15:29raised.
15:31When this bench was formed today,
15:33five members were present.
15:35Mr. Muneeb Akhtar did not come.
15:37Four other judges were present.
15:39When this bench was formed,
15:41Mr. Qazi Faisal said that
15:43Justice Muneeb Akhtar has written
15:45a letter to the Supreme Court.
15:47Mr. Qazi Faisal said that
15:49according to the letter,
15:51Justice Muneeb Akhtar cannot
15:53become a member of the bench.
15:55Justice Muneeb Akhtar said
15:57that his letter should not be
15:59considered as an apology to the society.
16:01If he has to leave the bench,
16:03he should come to the court
16:05and be informed.
16:07This was said by Mr. Qazi Faisal.
16:09Mr. Qazi Faisal said that
16:11he will try to convince
16:13Justice Muneeb Akhtar.
16:15Tomorrow, a new bench will be formed.
16:17Chief Justice Qazi Faisal said
16:19that Justice Muneeb Akhtar's letter
16:21cannot become a part of the court file.
16:23This is a very important point.
16:25Mr. Muneeb Akhtar said that
16:27his letter should become
16:29a part of the court record.
16:31There is no tradition of
16:33making such a letter a part
16:35of the court record.
16:37According to me,
16:39letters of judges are not
16:41a part of the court file.
16:43Let me continue.
16:45You must have covered
16:47the Supreme Court experience.
16:49As you know,
16:51Justice Muneeb Akhtar
16:53is from Athar.
16:55When the ordinance came,
16:57Justice Mansoor Ali Shah
16:59wrote a long letter
17:01in response to it.
17:03Today, this letter came.
17:05What is the way forward?
17:07What is the tradition?
17:09Justice Muneeb Akhtar
17:11and Justice Mazhar Alam
17:13who is an ad-hoc judge
17:15were in the minority.
17:17They have been made an ad-hoc judge.
17:19I don't know if an ad-hoc judge
17:21can become an ad-hoc judge.
17:23Overall, what is happening?
17:25There is a very unfortunate
17:27situation in front of you.
17:29The reason is that
17:31judicial politics among judges
17:33has been going on for a long time.
17:35It has been going on for years.
17:37That is why
17:39we are discussing
17:41this kind of news daily.
17:43We are analysing it.
17:45Now, look at the
17:4763A bench constitution.
17:49The bench constitution
17:51happens when all the judges
17:53give their consent.
17:55This means that
17:57Justice Muneeb Akhtar
17:59gave his consent.
18:01Now, there is only one way of recusal.
18:03The judge comes to the court
18:05and sits.
18:07Qazi Faizeesa and Sardar Tariq Masood
18:09came to the court and
18:11gave their speeches.
18:13They refused and left.
18:15This is one way.
18:17Now, they have done
18:19that they did not come to the court.
18:21They kept listening to the case
18:23in the Supreme Court.
18:25They listened to all the cases till 11 pm.
18:27After that, there is a tea break.
18:29They had to reassemble.
18:31They reassembled late.
18:33It was delayed for 15-20 minutes.
18:35The sources are saying
18:37that there will be a meeting
18:39of the practice and procedure committee.
18:41If they do not agree,
18:43I think,
18:45Justice Muneeb Akhtar did not agree.
18:47Now, the practice and procedure committee
18:49meeting will be held in the morning.
18:51Then, a new bench will be constituted.
18:53A question is being raised
18:55that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah
18:57is abstaining from the
18:59three-member committee.
19:01You must have read his letter.
19:03He said,
19:05to solve this issue,
19:07call a full court meeting
19:09and put this issue in front of it.
19:11Earlier, we discussed
19:13that you must have read his letter.
19:15Let me ask you a question.
19:17If a judge abstains
19:19from the three-member committee,
19:21then,
19:23what will happen to him?
19:25I will tell you.
19:27This is the committee
19:29of practice and procedure
19:31and there is a flaw in the law.
19:33The practice and procedure law
19:35says that
19:37the review must be completed
19:39within 14 days.
19:41But, the judge went on leave.
19:43Justice Muneeb Akhtar said
19:45that he is going on leave.
19:47So, when a deadlock situation
19:49arose, the government
19:51amended the law
19:53through an ordinance.
19:55Now, this is the current
19:57law.
19:59Justice Mansoor Ali Shah
20:01is one member.
20:03Now, there are two members.
20:05You are ignoring one thing.
20:07One member is nominated
20:09by the Chief Justice.
20:11He can appoint anyone.
20:13The other member
20:15will be a part of the law.
20:17But, they have the same powers.
20:19Listen to me.
20:21How can the powers be the same?
20:23The powers are the same.
20:25I understand.
20:27A permanent member
20:29and a nominated member
20:31are more important
20:33than a permanent member
20:35in any board or syndicate.
20:37Let me give you an example
20:39from the Judicial Commission.
20:41The retired judge
20:43has the same importance
20:45as the senior judge.
20:47But, it is not possible
20:49to appoint a Supreme Judicial
20:51without a Supreme Court Chief Justice.
20:53Chief Justice is first among equals.
20:55Mr. Nagri, the case is very serious.
20:57We have given statements on it.
20:59We will listen to them.
21:01Then, we will hear your opinion.
21:03Stay with us.
21:09Mr. Nagri, before coming to you,
21:11I would like to ask you
21:13about the allegations
21:15of Barrister Ali Zafar
21:17who represents PTI
21:19when the case was filed
21:21in the court.
21:23Please listen to what he has to say.
21:25Under this ordinance,
21:27which bench needs
21:29three members
21:31to hear
21:33the review petition
21:35of this very important case?
21:37Chief Justice,
21:39Justice Masroor Ali Shah
21:41and Justice Ameenuddin.
21:43When the committee
21:45was about to decide,
21:47Justice Masroor Ali Shah
21:49said that he was not available
21:51and if three members are left,
21:53the committee cannot decide
21:55which bench should be held
21:57and which should not.
21:59Chief Justice and Justice Ameenuddin
22:01were present.
22:03Those two members
22:05formed the five-member bench.
22:07Justice Muneer,
22:09due to the fact that
22:11the formation of the bench
22:13was not proper,
22:15he decided not to sit
22:17on the bench.
22:19Mr. Nagri, this is one objection.
22:21We will hear the other objections.
22:23You have shared
22:25a lot of information in the past.
22:27On 26th October,
22:29did you see
22:31Justice Masroor Ali Shah
22:33as the Chief Justice
22:35of the Supreme Court of Pakistan
22:37with or without the Constitutional Court?
22:39Did you see him?
22:41Yes, I saw him.
22:43With or without the Constitutional Court?
22:45Has the Constitutional Court been formed?
22:47He will be the Chief Justice
22:49of Pakistan.
23:17He will be the Chief Justice
23:19of Pakistan.
23:47You can make all the decisions
23:49if you do not want to do
23:51or are not able to do so in the Assembly
23:53or the Supreme Court.
23:55This daily chaos
23:57has brought a lot of disappointment
23:59among the people.
24:01I request you to reach
24:03to a conclusion as soon as possible.
24:05Mr. Chaudhary, the reference
24:07given by Mr. Nagri
24:09in the letter of Justice Muneeb Akhtar
24:11regarding Article 182,
24:13we will read it to you.
24:15Justice Muneeb Akhtar says
24:17that in the newly formed bench,
24:19Justice Retired Mazhar Alam
24:21Mian Khel has been included
24:23who is a part of the Court
24:25as an ad hoc judge
24:27according to Article 182.
24:29Why is it important
24:31that Justice Retired Mazhar Alam
24:33and another retired judge
24:35are included in the minutes
24:37of the meeting of the Judicial Commission
24:39on 19 July?
24:41According to the Framework,
24:43on 28 July, an ad hoc judge
24:45was given parameters
24:47related to the work
24:49to be done at the Court.
24:51It is true that Justice Mazhar
24:53was included in this bench
24:55who gave the majority decision
24:57which is now in the second view.
24:59However, in the current situation
25:01it is a strange coincidence
25:03that he is included in the bench.
25:05This is a common thing that
25:07the second view requests
25:09are heard even when
25:11the bench is not in the second view.
25:13These circumstances should be
25:15evaluated.
25:17I am not a part of this bench
25:19but it should be noted
25:21that this is not a refusal
25:23nor should my absence
25:25be taken wrongly.
25:27Please include this note
25:29in the file of the second view
25:31so that it becomes a part of the record.
25:33In addition to this,
25:35when Barrister Ali Zafar
25:37sat on another bench,
25:39he raised an objection
25:41regarding the formation of the bench.
25:43When the judges sat,
25:45we objected.
25:47We said that
25:49we have an objection
25:51that the formation of the
25:53five-member bench
25:55was not properly done.
25:57So, until Justice Mansoor Ali Shah
25:59sits in that committee
26:01and decides
26:03and there are no three members,
26:05the benches cannot be formed.
26:07If there is a problem
26:09that three members cannot sit,
26:11then the full court will decide
26:13how to proceed
26:15because this has become
26:17a position where
26:19there is no room for law.
26:21This is a very important
26:23question.
26:25Mr. Chaudhary,
26:27this is a very important
26:29question. What will you say?
26:31The thing is that
26:33a crisis-like situation has arisen.
26:35Basically,
26:37Justice Muneeb
26:39and
26:41Ali Zafar and other people
26:43have objections
26:45regarding the formation
26:47of this bench.
26:49That is why they did not sit.
26:51They have told
26:53their objections.
26:55What is the reason?
26:57The bench cannot be formed like this.
26:59Even if the ordinance is accepted,
27:01even if the act is accepted,
27:03if there are no three members,
27:05then how did you form it?
27:07This is a situation
27:09that they have created.
27:11The second question is that
27:13on 26th,
27:15I don't know what will happen
27:17in the next half an hour.
27:19Who has seen 26th October?
27:21The third thing is that
27:23they do not want to form
27:25Munsoor on 26th October.
27:27The Pakistani nation
27:29that is working with them,
27:31take care of it.
27:33This is a very important point
27:35that Barista Ali Zafar has raised.
27:37This is a very unique situation
27:39that is arising
27:41or is going to arise.
27:43A sitting judge
27:45is the author of a judgment.
27:47If he does not sit on this bench,
27:49will there be questions
27:51of legitimacy on that bench?
27:53What is he saying?
27:55Barista, listen.
27:57If Munsoor Ali Shah
27:59does not sit on the committee,
28:01we will have the same objection
28:03that if this new bench has to be formed,
28:05three members are necessary for it.
28:07I am not saying this.
28:09The law is saying this.
28:11The ordinance is saying this.
28:13Did he hear anything more
28:15in this regard?
28:17The rules of the Supreme Court
28:19are very clear and they say
28:21that if the author judge has retired
28:23or for some reason
28:25he is no longer on the bench,
28:27then in that case
28:29you can listen to the review
28:31without the author judge.
28:33But if the author judge
28:35is present in the Supreme Court,
28:37then without the author judge
28:39this review cannot be heard.
28:41These are the rules.
28:43Now, these rules do not say
28:45that if the author judge
28:47recluses himself
28:49or does not come
28:51or does not present his opinion
28:53for any legal reason,
28:55then can the bench be run
28:57without him?
28:59The rules are silent on this.
29:01There is no mention of such rules.
29:05Yes, Mr. Yub,
29:07an author judge is also unique.
29:09Does Justice Muneeb Akhtar
29:11know that I have authored
29:13the judgment of this?
29:15He is taking his position.
29:19Justice Muneeb Akhtar
29:21is a very capable person.
29:23But he is following
29:25like Mansoor Ali Shah
29:27has been handed over to him.
29:29No, no, no.
29:31Look, he is a human being.
29:33He is very capable,
29:35but he is a human being.
29:37Every human being is a human being.
29:39A judge is also a human being.
29:41He also makes mistakes.
29:43Now, he has rewritten
29:45the 63A judgment.
29:47This is your argument.
29:49No, it is not my argument.
29:51I have read the Constitution
29:53and the law of Pakistan.
30:15What is wrong?
30:17What is wrong?
30:19What is wrong?
30:21What is wrong?
30:23Look,
30:25this is Justice Muneeb Akhtar's
30:27advice.
30:29Before this,
30:31Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
30:33a very learned judge,
30:35we all know his background.
30:37So, he is suggesting
30:39that we have made our own judgment
30:41and now there is an audience.
30:43So, let's sit together.
30:45I haven't heard the words
30:47First, the constitution, then the law, and then its sub-servants, the rules and regulations.
30:54So many times, the Supreme Court judges say that the rules are superior to the law.
31:00If the rules of the other constitutions are sub-servant to the law, then how can the rules of the Supreme Court be superior to them?
31:08So the standard is the same, right? The spirit and the principle are the same.
31:11So these things... Look sir, this has been a wrong tradition since the time of Iftikhar Chaudhary.
31:16Viewers, in the parliamentary system of the government of Pakistan, the trichotomy of power is discussed.
31:21This is what the constitution says.
31:23On one side is the parliament, on the other side is the legislature, on the other side is the government, which is called the executive.
31:28And the Supreme Court of Pakistan, its autonomy has been completely ensured.
31:34Now in the coming days, what will be the consequences of this?
31:37300 lawyers from Pakistan have written a letter to the top judge,
31:43saying that the intention behind the constitutional court is not clear.
31:49This is the opinion of 300 lawyers.
31:52We will keep that in front of you.
31:54And at the same time, Maulana Sahib is saying that the current parliament,
31:57he is saying that it has come from a corrupt mandate.
32:00Such a big amendment from this parliament does not seem appropriate.
32:03This is Maulana Sahib's opinion.
32:05We will take a break. After the break, we will talk about it.
32:08Welcome back viewers.
32:11An open letter has been written to the judges from 300 lawyers.
32:15In the letter, he is saying that we appeal to the judges of our constitutional courts
32:21that this new constitutional court should not be accepted, which comes into existence with the approval of a bill.
32:27We also appeal to those people who may have been chosen to serve.
32:35They should not do this.
32:37Participating in illegal activities is not a violation of the law,
32:40but it will be an attempt to smear its face.
32:44It is clear that such a constitutional court is nothing else,
32:46but it will be a PCO court.
32:49And those who will take a stand for this court, they will be PCO judges.
32:53This moment is giving you a chance to choose.
32:57In fact, when our courts are being tried to make faulty,
33:01so far you are not on the wrong side of history.
33:05That's why we appeal that you stand up and don't give them a way.
33:10In the future, when your history will be written,
33:13it should be written that you were not a participant in the crime.
33:17Yesterday, Maulana Sahib gave a press conference.
33:20During that time, what did he say about the amendment,
33:23his opinion on this, and the mandate of the current parliament?
33:29This parliament does not deserve such a big amendment.
33:33This parliament does not have the mandate to do such a big thing.
33:37We think that there should be an election,
33:40that the true representatives of the people should come to the field.
33:44The people should have confidence in the parliament.
33:47To make such a big amendment to this fake parliament,
33:50this in itself is an injustice.
33:52Allah has given us such a parliament that we do not consider it a mandate of the people.
33:57Anakbir Sahib, you have seen and heard this.
34:00We have 2-2.5 minutes left.
34:02Please comment.
34:03What do you think about the future of the amendment?
34:06Today, Bilawal Bhuttozadai Sahib said that we do not have a 2-3 majority,
34:10but we will try.
34:11Look, if there is a 2-3 majority, you can bring an amendment.
34:15If there is not, then it is useless to talk about it.
34:18Secondly, what Maulana Sahib said, I have been doing it since the first day.
34:22People were laughing at me that Maulana Sahib is going to be
34:25the next opposition leader.
34:27Now he has voted on the other side.
34:29Now he has refused to accept the parliament.
34:31And in this, he said that an election should be held.
34:34Along with this, he said one more thing.
34:36He said that Tahrik-e-Insaf has been won by Dhandali in KPK.
34:39That is why an election should be held.
34:41This was his full statement.
34:42No, he is saying that it is a mandate everywhere.
34:44It has been stolen.
34:45He has been talking about it since the first day.
34:47KPK is a big opposition.
34:48No, he has been talking about KPK since the first day.
34:50It has been removed.
34:51From Balochistan and KPK.
34:52Yes.
34:53Chaudhry Sahib.
34:54No.
34:55No.
34:56By the way, Khawar Govind Sahib.
34:57Yes.
34:58If Maulana Sahib is saying that PTI has been won by Dhandali.
35:02Then why has it been won?
35:04Dhandali people.
35:05I mean, PTI people.
35:06Did our mother give birth to a son?
35:07Chaudhry Sahib, let's give the news.
35:08Okay, give the news.
35:09According to my opinion, Maulana will be satisfied with the establishment of the Constitutional Court.
35:17The entire Constitutional package says that it will be limited to judicial reforms.
35:22Judicial reforms.
35:23Judicial reforms.
35:24Beyond this.
35:25Or the other things that you were thinking about.
35:27Listening.
35:28The drafts were being shared.
35:29I think those things are part of the judicial reforms.
35:32Okay, viewers.
35:33This is a developing story.
35:34We will talk about it every day.
35:35That's all for today.
35:36InshaAllah.
35:37See you tomorrow.
35:38Allah Hafiz.