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01:13Dante, are you in the car right now?
01:14I can't, I got the, the screen looks a little small.
01:17Are you the Dante-mobile?
01:18Yeah.
01:19I'm very sorry.
01:20I just got lectured by White Sox, Dave, on what a trash bag I am for doing RUNDOWN in
01:25the car.
01:26So.
01:27That's exactly what I did.
01:28That's exactly what I did.
01:29I made it personal.
01:30I took digs at Dante.
01:32I ripped him apart limb by limb and emotion by emotion.
01:38And like, he's correct.
01:40He's correct.
01:41I'm shook.
01:42I'm shook.
01:43I like it.
01:44That car has a lot of nice natural sunlight.
01:49That's a Porsche right there.
01:50That's a Porsche Cayenne SUV.
01:52That's like a $100,000 car he's in right now.
01:55Thanks, Dave.
01:56Thanks, Dave.
01:57I actually have the license plate if you want it, Clem.
01:59Yes.
02:00I would like it.
02:01Actually, just tweet it out.
02:02I'm driving 500 glasses back to Chicago.
02:04I had to come to Cleveland.
02:05I'm on my way back to Chicago.
02:07I had to pick up stuff for a bar.
02:10That's why I'm here.
02:11I'm in a gas station.
02:12Sorry.
02:13Hey, we all put in the team on your back.
02:17I appreciate it.
02:18Just happens to be in a Porsche.
02:19So be it.
02:20You know, I'm sure it was just a coincidence.
02:21He didn't want to show the Porsche off.
02:23You and Dave worked some stuff out behind the stage.
02:25No, seriously.
02:26Great to have the NFL season back.
02:28Let's just go across the board here.
02:30White Sox, Dave, is this the most anticipated Bears season of your lifetime?
02:37It's maybe there.
02:40I mean, there might have been a year or two in there.
02:43The answer's yes.
02:44The answer's yes.
02:45Yeah.
02:46I mean, I'm just trying to think maybe post-Super Bowl year.
02:48Oh, yeah.
02:49Post-Super Bowl year.
02:50That's fair.
02:51In 05, 06, that was.
02:53But yeah, it's the most hyped.
02:54It's the most excited I've been for a football season in my entire life.
02:59If you look at the Bears Reddit page right now, they have like they use the Jersey numbers
03:03counting down the days.
03:05And at like at 54, it was Brian Urlacher, Brian Urlacher days until week one kickoff.
03:13And it seemed like that was 10,000 years ago.
03:17Time is crawling right now.
03:18I cannot wait for kickoff tonight.
03:19I think it's going to be an outstanding game.
03:23And I personally think the Ravens are going to steal one on the road to kick off the twenty
03:26twenty four season.
03:28It's funny you say that, Dave.
03:29I was looking at that two and a half, three, whatever it be, Casey.
03:31I'm like, you know what?
03:32Kind of like the Ravens here.
03:33And then I'm like, idiot.
03:34You said last year, me, idiot.
03:37Do not bet against Patrick Mahomes ever again, especially in a big game.
03:40So I'm just off on the Chiefs.
03:41I'm not betting for them, against them.
03:43It's just that game exists in its own little world.
03:46But it's while I would typically agree with you, don't bet against Patrick Mahomes.
03:53I'm not not betting this game because it's the first week of the season.
03:55It's the first game of the first week of the season.
03:57So I have to.
03:58But typically, like this is week five or whatever, I would probably, you know, err with caution
04:04like you, Clem.
04:05But I, for some reason, I just I think they're going to keep them off the field a little
04:09bit.
04:10Mahomes, they're just going to chew up yards on the ground.
04:14You also you also you also have to remember, Kansas City came out so flat last season.
04:20They were awful the first two months of the year, and they really, they really turned
04:25it on the second half heading into the playoffs.
04:28So I think same thing.
04:31Super Bowl hangover.
04:32I think it's going to take them a little bit to get going.
04:34I like Baltimore tonight, too.
04:36Oh, man.
04:37We're all like in Baltimore.
04:38That's fucking terrifying.
04:39Yeah, that's not.
04:40That's not good.
04:41The words of the wise, the people at home, you know, you may want to fade the three idiots
04:45speaking right now.
04:46Also, I mean, this is a topic that's later on in it.
04:49Travis Kelsey, he's got Hollywood on us.
04:51He's in an FX hard show that, I guess, doesn't look all that great.
04:55Grotesquerie is the name of it.
04:57Starting it's a Hulu show.
04:59Obviously, he's been in the news with the alleged conspiracy theory that our conspiracy
05:05theorist writer, Dante, published, which, you know, caught some heat from Keegs.
05:09Keegs gets some Taylor Swift on her radar.
05:11She starts firing shots, but it's all love there.
05:14Then there was rumors that Taylor Swift is fucking putting plays together like she's
05:18playing Madden to try to, you know, feed her boys some more targets here, Dante.
05:23Yeah, Riggs blogged it last week.
05:26Patrick Mahomes made it a little slip and then Kelsey was on Rich Eisen's show yesterday
05:32and Eisen asked him about it and Kelsey confirmed it.
05:37Yeah, he said Taylor Swift's been drawn up plays that she wants him to give to Andy Reid
05:45and he said most of them are geared towards him naturally, but I don't know.
05:51I blogged it kind of saying like, is she trying too hard?
05:56Do you really want your girlfriend being that invested in football where she knows the X's
06:02and O's or do you just want her to be cool with you checking out for 12 hours a day on
06:08Sunday and watching football all day?
06:11Like I feel like it's a little too much.
06:14He's not making songs.
06:15He's not like, honey, I think this this ballad would go really well and maybe we'll get Ed
06:19Sheeran on, you know, the hook or something like that, like church and state kind of a
06:23thing.
06:24Dave, have you ever, you know, did you ever have a girlfriend that was, you know, giving
06:26you tips on how to, you know, maybe hit a baseball better back in the day?
06:29No.
06:30And if she did, I'd puke in her face that there's like.
06:36This is recorded.
06:37You guys can take this out if you want, but there are differences in the world and I know
06:41equality and all this.
06:43That's just one of them.
06:44I don't need a tip from you.
06:45How to swing a baseball bat.
06:46You're a girl.
06:47I mean, just like I don't need Taylor Swift drawing up football plays on how to run a
06:52fucking a jet sweep with Patrick Mahomes with Travis Kelsey leaking into the flat.
06:58Like I do not need that.
07:00Keep some separate like church and state.
07:02Like you said, remember we had that thing a parcel years ago where like us idiots could
07:07call the players like you call the play kind of a thing where it's like you're straight
07:10up making the play.
07:11That would be banana.
07:13Do you think like big cat pride could get a connection with some of the bears?
07:15You guys could like draw up a bear's play, like within the next decade, especially if
07:19you guys get good.
07:20Caleb's there.
07:21It seems like you guys are playing ball with the bears.
07:23You guys have your new show.
07:24What's the name of the new bear show?
07:26We don't have one yet.
07:27What's our name?
07:28You have a name?
07:29We don't have a name.
07:30Chief says no name.
07:31Who needs a name?
07:32Go listen to the show with, yeah, just go listen to it.
07:35Just click on the social media accounts.
07:37In hindsight, I will say this on, on that exact topic really quick.
07:41I do think we probably picked a poor name for our last show, the mid show that didn't
07:46really flow very well, but that's okay.
07:49That's why you, you fix and remedy things, but, um, I don't know.
07:55I don't know.
07:56Also, you guys can a hundred percent get a play in that bears playbook.
08:00It's probably this thin Eberflux needs all the help he can get.
08:06He's probably going to welcome you guys.
08:08Subject submitting plays to him.
08:11You guys should get on it.
08:13I love Dante is like, he's a, he's obviously a Pats fan, but he has like bears connections,
08:18but he can like, he can rib when he wants to rib and then he can love what he wants
08:22to love.
08:23It's the perfect place.
08:24I love it.
08:25It's what I like to call a fair weather fan, actually.
08:27No, listen, listen, listen.
08:29I'm actually just clam.
08:32You can check when we sign off on this.
08:34I'm finishing up a blog right now, admitting, I think I was wrong about Caleb Williams and
08:41admitting why I think I was wrong, but five points, um, starting with, I'm going to say,
08:49I think he's, I think he's got real character, um, from everything I've read, everything
08:55I've seen on hard knocks.
08:57I think he's the real deal, like leadership wise, which says a lot for a kid, his age.
09:05And I've been really, really impressed.
09:07And I did not expect that coming in from USC.
09:10Um, I don't think you can expect it because you're like a thousand years old and he's
09:15like the first, he's the first young quarterback to not the first young quarterback, but he's,
09:21he's a generation below you.
09:25It looks weird.
09:26His leadership qualities, they're not what we're accustomed to, you know, like the nail
09:31painting and the person, the GQ and all that shit.
09:34Like once you just kind of forget about that and just keep it to football, like from a
09:39fan perspective, then you're like, that is the dude right there.
09:42That's the fucking, I mean, honestly though, I don't give a fuck about the nail painting
09:47and all that.
09:48Like that shit.
09:49Like I, I have friends that are musicians that do all that.
09:51I don't judge people by that.
09:54I mean, dude, I fucking would take a bullet for a quarterback that used to kiss his kids
10:00on the lips.
10:01Like I'm not into that weird stuff doesn't bother me.
10:04I'm talking about how he is as a locker room guy and on the field guy, a field general.
10:12And obviously watching him play, the kid can fucking play.
10:15Um, I don't think there's any disputing that, but I'm, I'm just really impressed with the
10:21kind of person he is.
10:22I didn't expect him to be that.
10:23I thought he was going to be a bag of shit.
10:26It seems like he's a really good guy.
10:28I have a question for like the Chicago.
10:31Cause like right now, like you said, Chicago through the roof vibes, you're going summertime
10:35shy straight into like football season.
10:37And that usually will put a little bit of the breaks because obviously the bears have
10:40had their struggles over the years.
10:42If you guys just keep ascending here, I feel like everyone's in a great mood, but if like
10:46he stumbles and you know, gets off to a rough start, how quick did the Chicago people turn
10:51on their own?
10:52Match fans returning up Francisco Lindor instantly.
10:54Now he's a fucking MVP candidate.
10:56Oh dude, this, that fucking Chicago is the town of chicken little.
11:02Like the sky is falling immediately, which sucks.
11:06That was one of my arguments.
11:07I wish that, you know, this kid was playing behind somebody and they weren't just throwing
11:12them right into the fire.
11:13I get that they are primed to win right now with the talent they have on this roster.
11:19So they're playing to win.
11:21They're not playing to, you know, build this kid up.
11:25So I understand that, but I hope for his sake and for all my Chicago bears fans sake that
11:33he doesn't struggle badly, badly, badly to begin with.
11:38And the town doesn't jump all over him and sports radio doesn't crucify him because last
11:44thing I want to see is him getting eaten alive.
11:47Like this city did a Trubisky and fields sucks.
11:50It sucks seeing that happen to a young kid, but the thing it's different because once
11:58again, the, the bears traded up for fields.
12:01They traded up for Trubisky.
12:03There was a lot of question marks.
12:05Can those guys be NFL quarterbacks?
12:07Can they read an NFL defense?
12:09Are they more athlete than quarterback?
12:12Are they gonna, you know, develop accuracy?
12:14You don't hear that same stuff with Williams, how often, especially in recent history, how
12:20often has a one, one quarterback been a complete and total fucking bust?
12:23It doesn't really happen anymore.
12:25And that's what I sound like.
12:26I think at, at the outset from the hit, the first nap he takes on Sunday, he is going
12:32to be from game one in game one.
12:35He will be a good quarterback, like a middle, like middle third quarterback at, and like,
12:41if he's like the 20th best quarterback in the league this year, I think that is a problem.
12:45I expect him to be 10th, 12th, 13th ish.
12:49You know, because of everything around him, like Dante said, it's, it's such a different
12:55situation compared to just past guys.
12:56And Dante's like, I wish he had a chance to sit.
12:58No, this is a guy you give the keys to and you let him go.
13:02You let him go.
13:03And it's, and I can't wait until week one.
13:06He's gonna, he's gonna tell everybody through his game that I'm here to stay here.
13:12I am.
13:13I, and I, I am confident that that's going to happen.
13:15I hope so, man.
13:16Like again, like, you know, that's going to happen.
13:19Fans and teams that have been like haunted, obviously the Browns Jersey is viral, but
13:24the bears Jersey is its own fucking, you know, graveyard in itself you could do over the
13:28years.
13:29So, I mean, I hope it's the case and I don't know if there'll be blockheads bears fans
13:32who'd be like, Oh, he paints it.
13:33Like if he struggled or, you know, something goes down and they start saying, cause his
13:37personality is a little quirkier than what the old folks are used to.
13:41If there'll be like a pushback on that, but whatever, you know, it's all positive vibes.
13:44We're all zero and zero.
13:45We're all making the fucking playoffs, nine to 12 wins, right?
13:49Clem honestly, it is the best place in the world to be when the bears are doing well
13:58and not even like Superbowl contenders, although they have been a couple of times since I've
14:04lived here, but when they're just competitive and in the race and playoffs are like in their
14:13city, Chicago is on a whole different level.
14:17It doesn't matter what the other teams are doing, how successful the other teams are.
14:23When the bears are good, Chicago comes alive and is fucking electric.
14:28So you can't live in the city and not be not, not want to see the bears do well.
14:35It's just, it's the best place ever.
14:37So even as not a full on bears fan, I really want to see them like do well this year.
14:43Yeah.
14:44As long as they don't affect my giants at all, like I'm nothing but the best for the
14:47Chicago people.
14:48You just want to see those guys like, same with the Browns.
14:50Like I want to see them, they obviously went with a different quarterback who has not worked
14:54out so well for them, but you just want to see like franchises, like back it off the
14:58Schneid as a Mets fan.
14:59It's like, I think a lot of the other people that are in the misery want to see us get
15:02off the Schneid as well.
15:03So hopefully that's the case.
15:04It's kind of the case here in New York where the Knicks are the one team that brings all
15:06New York together.
15:07Sounds like the bears are the biggest team, obviously of the White Sox and the Cubs, which
15:11is, you know, a big baseball town, but they're always shooting as our guy Dave can tell us.
15:15So a lot of Caleb Williams talk to start.
15:18We'll keep it with the sports.
15:19Give me one take on just one of the game week one.
15:22We have Packers Eagles in Brazil on Friday night, which is fucking good.
15:25That'll just steal them from the high schoolers, Sunday night football, Rams, Lions, Jets Niners
15:29on Monday night.
15:30Dante, you got to take on any of those games.
15:32Yeah.
15:33Rams, Lions is the NFL is getting so good at putting together these storyline games
15:42with everything.
15:43Obviously, they're still playing the Stafford, you know, Detroit angle with that.
15:51Obviously Detroit's in a much different spot than they were.
15:56I have some, some of my best friends are Detroit guys and it's funny seeing them so
16:03pissed off and angry at how much respect the Lions are getting and how heavily they're
16:09being bet futures wise by Vegas.
16:12It's like driving them insane.
16:14Like they're like, no, we don't want people thinking the Lions are going to be good.
16:18It's going to fuck everything up.
16:19Like they want to be off other teams radars, but they're a heavy favorite.
16:24Now I feel like, you know, it's not going to be as easy as they think going through
16:29this regular season.
16:30I feel like teams are going to get up for them and they're going to get every opponent's
16:35best shot.
16:36So I think Sunday night's going to be surprising.
16:39I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams, the Rams at least cover, I wouldn't be stunned if they,
16:46if they steal it.
16:47Yeah.
16:48I'm picking the lines when the Superbowl, so, you know, fucking, I hate to tell you
16:51Lions fans, but you're not everyone when you're like the little scrappy team, you want
16:54teams to respect you, but you don't want everyone to get on the bandwagon and then make you
16:57the favorite.
16:58Cause all the shit that comes with it, Dave, you got anything on any of these games?
17:03I don't know.
17:04I think it's funny that they're playing a game in Brazil, considering everything's that's
17:07going on there right now.
17:09It's like, I I'm trying to imagine what, uh, any sporting event would look like, or any
17:14like global event like this is going to be where you don't have people live tweeting
17:19it.
17:21Like Dave, for our listeners that, um, are out of the news loop, can you give us like
17:28a two second?
17:29Yeah.
17:30So what's going on there?
17:32They banned Twitter in, in Brazil.
17:34We don't have to get into the whole obvious debate surrounding that, but like, there's
17:38going to be beat guys for, you know, both teams.
17:42Like what are the, what are they going to be do?
17:43Oh, fourth and two, like you have to be watching that TV.
17:47It's like an $8,000 fine a day.
17:54If you get caught using a VPN or some shit, it's insane.
17:59What's the Instagram, Twitter, threads, threads, they're going to be on threads, lighten that
18:05up.
18:06They have like six reposts, three likes, like no one goes on that.
18:10Everyone got an account and then everyone forgot about it.
18:12Like a week later, it was one of the most incredible things.
18:14Uh, that's like the Friday, you know, Friday night, NFL would never touch Friday night
18:19as high school.
18:20They took over Christmas from the NBA and they're taking over Friday night.
18:23They're sent into a fucking country that has some crazy shit going on.
18:27Good.
18:28That'll put, have them play on the sun.
18:29If he could, he doesn't give a fuck and these guys are playing on short rest in fucking,
18:33you know, your brains are mushed by the end of like the week and these guys have to come
18:37back three days later and play again.
18:39It's a, it's a fucking shit show.
18:40The jets on Monday night is just cruel and like, there's a chance everything's fine,
18:45but like doing that to the jets after they were on Monday night last year, the Aaron
18:48Rogers game, the nine 11 game, whatever the fuck you want to call it.
18:51It's just like,
18:52what does he say?
18:54What did he like guaranteed a super bowl championship or something, but I, I'd not word for word,
19:01but he was cocky as could be.
19:03And I told him that little fucking cocksucker, I told him, I'm like, the Mets are still the
19:08Mets until, until they actually, until, you know, clock strikes midnight and they win
19:13a world series.
19:14They're still the Mets in spite of Cohen.
19:17I was correct.
19:18And I have been correct so far.
19:20Same thing with the jets when they hired Roger or hired, uh, uh, got Rogers.
19:25Same thing.
19:26They're still the jets until further notice.
19:28And I am at the point with Kevin where I'm like, you, you'll just never get it because
19:34I root for loser teams myself.
19:37I'm at the point where I like to see Kevin fail thoughts and his team just fail.
19:43So, all right.
19:44So, so as a fan of as to, I'm talking to two fans of two huge loser teams, actually as
19:53a fan of now a new loser team, I think new England's far and away the worst team in the
19:59league.
20:00Um, and I feel like they're going to be for a very long time.
20:05Trying to, trying to come around and cope with this.
20:08Like, do you have any advice?
20:10Like how the hell do I adjust to just sucking for the foreseeable future?
20:17And, and like, how do you still get up for football every Sunday knowing your team's
20:21going to get their dick kicked in?
20:22It'd be different if like I could speak from a position like you, where I have a million
20:28fucking championship rings.
20:29I don't really, I mean the bulls and Blackhawks, but those are, those aren't my sports.
20:36So I went from like the Eli era, which had its rules, a rollercoaster, but we did win
20:40a couple.
20:41And then now the giants have been a fucking laughingstock here.
20:43Um, two things, three things, gambling, fantasy sports and the red zone or Sunday ticket.
20:51Like just don't like watch good.
20:53Just like watch shit that makes you happy.
20:55Do shit that makes me find other ways to enjoy the NFL because your team probably will not
20:59give you any or much enjoyment.
21:01So those three things are the biggest three things.
21:03Go to those as your ways to get your fix every single Sunday, because the Patriots
21:07probably are not going to do it at least for a while.
21:09And also like be prepared.
21:11And you saw this firsthand Dante in Chicago, be prepared for like, if Drake May starts
21:15out slow, it's like half the fan base hates him.
21:17Half the fan base loves him.
21:18Daniel Jones still doing in New York.
21:19Justin Fields was that way in Chicago and you just have to deal with like civil wars
21:23within your fan base.
21:24Nobody gave shit to Bill or Brady or, you know, Mr. Craft or Portnoy, as you know, the
21:29big four there in New England.
21:31So, and then once everything started going awry, that's when people started taking sides.
21:35Just be prepared.
21:36Like there's going to be civil wars about every single pick.
21:38Saquon was hated.
21:39Odell was hated here.
21:41Danny's been taking shit since he got drafted.
21:43It's just always a civil war when you have a bad team.
21:45That's like unbelievable advice, Clem, as usual.
21:50Yeah.
21:51My last decade, I got hired at Barstool and the Giants just went to shit essentially.
21:53So maybe it's my fault.
21:54So that's the best way to go about it, Dante.
21:56You'll be fine though, pal.
21:57You'll get on the other side.
21:58Dave, for me and you, I remember, I'm old enough to remember when the Patriots were
22:01like the White Sox and the Mets.
22:04It can turn around for us.
22:05You know, you just have to have the right owner and then he has the right guy and you
22:08go from there.
22:09And maybe the Mets are in that way.
22:10But, you know, maybe this is the year.
22:11Kevin Tunstall didn't march.
22:13Maybe this is the year he can't even enjoy the Mets World Series because everyone reminds
22:16him he gave up on him back before the fucking season.
22:18Dude, what?
22:19So what the hell happened to that team?
22:20I looked up and like, they're in a playoff race now, what?
22:25Grimace threw out the first pitch of a game.
22:27They stopped losing after that.
22:30They rebranded their logo to the rainbow for Pride Month.
22:34So the gay Mets just became the hottest team in baseball.
22:37We had Hawk to it throughout the first pitch.
22:40They're like 13 and six since they did, since she did that.
22:44So it's like, we're the meme team at this point.
22:45We had this, our opening day, our veteran of the day, his name was Seymour Wiener.
22:49And then we had this guy who was just, his kid was wearing like pimp gear.
22:53Just went viral.
22:54The Mets rallied after they showed him on the screen, they called him the rally pimp.
22:56It's like the meme season, it's a dream season, meme season for the Mets.
23:00I don't know how to describe it, but it's, I'm having too much fun to like, try to figure
23:03it out.
23:04We are just winning on vibes right now.
23:05And it's great.
23:06Oh yeah.
23:07And like our, our shortstop has like, or our backup second base middle infielder has like
23:10the hottest song in the game, OMG.
23:11I'm sure you've heard it as a musical candelita.
23:14So it's, it's all that shit just going on.
23:17You know, baseball is like 20% the actual game, 80% just weird shit and vibes.
23:22So we're just going to let it ride.
23:24Like this is the, this is the year to be in a place like that too, because it feels
23:28like it's wide open this season.
23:30Big time.
23:31It's, there's no like just dominant team that, and you know, all those years we had dominant
23:35teams, they didn't win shit anyway.
23:36So we'll see, we'll see where it goes.
23:38You don't think Philly is?
23:41Philly?
23:42Yeah.
23:43We're like seven behind them now and we play them.
23:45So, I mean, we could kind of start nipping at it.
23:46No, I'm saying you don't think there's like a dominant team?
23:50Who is?
23:51Philly?
23:52I mean, I'm.
23:53Bryce just got hurt yesterday.
23:55I mean, Philly is good, but like every team has kind of come back to the back.
23:58The Dodgers aren't even doing typical Dodger stuff, which is probably the year that they'll
24:01actually win a real world series instead of the Mickey mouth.
24:03So there's a lot of ways it can go.
24:05Hey, how about this?
24:06How about this for a baseball story?
24:08Hey, we have to get the ads in.
24:11We have to get the ads in.
24:12We won a game yesterday.
24:13We can do that.
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24:15We'll go back to that.
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25:16Dante, you're a DJ.
25:18The audio, the, the, the headphones, they are the key to the, uh, the tool for the audio,
25:23uh, you know, user, right?
25:25You know what drives me nuts, man, this is the old man yelling at the clouds, DJ version.
25:31These young kids now they DJ without headphones.
25:35I don't know how the fuck, I don't know how the fuck they do it.
25:38It's all, it's like visual and it's such cheating because you use headphones to hear what the
25:44next song is coming in before it goes out to the crowd.
25:47So I don't know how the hell they do it, but yeah, uh, I'm a big headphone guy, was
25:52a pioneer guy, uh, got a gift box of the Raycons.
25:57I'm very, very impressed with not just the sound quality, but the lows on them.
26:03Very hard to, to nail in a small headphone.
26:08They did a great job on it.
26:10Awesome headphones.
26:11No bullshit.
26:12Great headphones.
26:13Where would the pros where Dante the Don says so himself.
26:15All right, Dave.
26:16So I apologize.
26:17I didn't mean to cut you off.
26:18We'll go to baseball side of things.
26:19Now this is the Barstool sports episode, baby, all capital sports, um, the white Sox get
26:25a W over the Orioles fifth win since the All-Star break.
26:29Is that correct?
26:30Um, I believe six, I believe they until yesterday they were five and 45 in their last 50 games.
26:38Oh my God.
26:40How is that possible?
26:42I, I, I brought them up as a joke where we don't need to talk about those losers.
26:47I truly think that baseball needs to do something to punish teams that do shit like this.
26:53Cause this is unacceptable.
26:55It's embarrassing.
26:56And I, I want nothing to do with even that.
26:59So, so think, think, all right, think about it from just a math and probability standpoint.
27:06It's one win every nine losses on average.
27:12Like don't you think you would just by the law of averages, like catch a team on a, on
27:17a fucking bad day or catch a pitcher like Dante, when you put a, when you put a roster
27:26together as, as bad as this roster is put together, you don't get the benefit of them
27:33like scraping by on the margins, like any other major league baseball team, literally
27:37in the history of the game has, has been afforded the, the chance to do.
27:43They don't, they don't have even close to enough talent to just beat some team because
27:49it was an off day.
27:50They have to play literally the best possible game they can possibly play as a unit just
27:58to win one game here and there.
28:01That's how bad they have to play their apps.
28:04They can't play a 90% of their best and win.
28:08That's how bad they are.
28:09Any other team in the history of baseball, you could, you could just catch someone on
28:12an, on an off day and you, and you pick up wins that way.
28:16And I mean, Dave, they're just, I mean, they're, they're just completely checked out at this
28:20point right now.
28:21So they're not, there's no way you're getting a hundred percent effort out of any of them.
28:25Right?
28:26No, I would hope that there are a bunch of losers and I'm serious.
28:29I do want to move it on from them because I get angry talking about them, but the cubs,
28:34there is a combined no hitter.
28:35No, no, no, no.
28:36We're not selling their game.
28:37We're not going there yet.
28:38I don't want to talk about the white socks really quick.
28:41I have a question.
28:42I'll move it off the white socks, but I have a question for Clem as someone who is a die
28:48hard for a fan or for a team with an owner who spends out of his mind, the complete opposite
28:56of Jerry Reinsdorf, do you feel like owners like him look at Reinsdorf and I mean, dude,
29:06they had, I saw, I saw a clip the other night, they had 17 people in the crowd at the white
29:13socks game.
29:14I mean, but do those owners do when I DJ the cubs, the COVID season, and there were no
29:22fans allowed.
29:23We had more than 17 people at the COVID games than the white socks did the other night.
29:30So, so Clem, do owners like Cohen and these other, you know, billionaires, do they look
29:37at Reinsdorf, what Reinsdorf's doing and that has to drive them fucking crazy, right?
29:42Like, Oh, he's the head honcho of the MLB owners group.
29:47Y'all love Jerry Reinsdorf.
29:49He's their fucking, he's their guy.
29:52He's who suppresses wages more than anybody.
29:55He is so anti-player and anti-worker that it's like, yeah, Dave's right.
30:01So it's guys like Cohen that are the bad guys that they all hate Cohen.
30:05It's not Reinsdorf was one of the four owners who voted against Cohen to get the Mets.
30:11And let's not forget, they're not the ones who are hammering.
30:14Let's get the minimums up.
30:15Let's get the minimums up.
30:16It was the Cohen tax.
30:17That was the new thing they added.
30:18So Cohen couldn't just buy a, you know, World Series team or whatever.
30:22So it's like guys like Reinsdorf, they kind of love, and thank God, like this new baseball
30:26schedule we were talking about, and we got to believe today, thank God they redid this
30:29baseball schedule.
30:30So like the AL Central just couldn't fatten up on the White Sox.
30:33Now it's instead of 19 games in division, it's 13.
30:36So it's not as much like, Oh, let's just kick the shit out of these guys down the road.
30:39So the Mets just played the White Sox three games.
30:42The Mets are in obviously this playoff run for one of the wildcard spots.
30:44And every game was like a fucking World Series game, but it's like, we cannot fall behind
30:48in this wildcard race and lose to what's going to be the worst team of all time.
30:52Right?
30:53Like they have to go at 500 to not match the 862 Mets.
30:56At this point.
30:57It's a, I think it's 500 now.
31:00Cause they won yesterday.
31:01Yeah.
31:02Yeah.
31:03So, and that's a team that goes, like you said, Dante, when you see a team in the last
31:0510 in the standings is one and nine, you're like, that team is dead.
31:08That's their average.
31:09So it's like, it's, it's a banana length thing, but yeah, like guys like Reinsdorf, I had,
31:13he had a guy like that with the Wilpons from once made off, robbed them.
31:17And then they just stopped giving a fuck about the team.
31:19It's like perennial hell.
31:20And it's, it's like the worst thing ever.
31:22I feel terrible for the White Sox fans, everyone except for Chuck.
31:25Chuck gave me shit.
31:26And I will forever.
31:27Never.
31:28And I said, Chuck, I wish nothing but misery on you.
31:29And even I couldn't have seen this coming.
31:31I didn't know they were supposed to be, were they supposed to be like worst team ever going
31:34into the season?
31:35No.
31:36I mean, like I said, probably 70 ish wins.
31:40Yeah.
31:41It's bad, but not, not this, not the worst ever, the woats.
31:45So across town, of course, Cubs throw in a combined no hitter.
31:49This probably would have killed Dave if he was alive right now for the meantime, they
31:54pull them after seven hit list innings.
31:57And there's two sides.
31:58He could be the old man yelling at the cloud about how you got to pitch, you know, a complete
32:01game if you're throwing a no hitter, or you could be like the modern guy.
32:03And so you, of course you pulled this guy at 95 pitches and two walks and they were
32:07kicking the ever living shit out of the pirates, 12, nothing.
32:11So Dave, what's your thought of this as a guy whose arm is, let's be honest, slowing
32:15down from over taxation over the years we were throwing out the fast pitch machine.
32:18Yeah.
32:19That is true.
32:20My arm is not the it's, it's not the in the 99th percentile.
32:25Well, it probably still is to be Frank, but my arm's not what it used to be, but I hate
32:32that.
32:33Like somewhere along the way, a hundred just became the arbitrary number.
32:37It's like, Oh, I can't go over a hundred.
32:40I can tell you what happened.
32:41I can tell you what it happened.
32:44It was when Pedro Martinez, he would always, after a hundred, his ERA would like go up
32:49to like, it was 2003.
32:51And it was like, it was just coincidence.
32:53Of course, every guy gets tired, but that I remember they hammered that stat so much
32:57during the Yankees, Red Sox civil war that a hundred just became the arbitrary number.
33:02And it's continued through this day, I believe.
33:04Yeah.
33:05Like if you're, I understand like the more a hitter sees a picture in the same day, the
33:10better chances they are to make quality contact.
33:12I get all that, you know, fatigue and all that.
33:15But when you're cruising and you're at 95 pitches, let him fucking either surrender
33:20a Bay or a hit or a base runner or whatever it was.
33:22Yeah.
33:24Or let him get the, let him get the no hitter.
33:28Like our white 95 pitches, him throwing 95 pitches is no different than him throwing
33:33120 pitches on one day.
33:35My so really isn't the grand scheme of things.
33:38My whole problem with this is, is twofold.
33:41First off, can we, as a society of sports fans, can we, can we agree that it's not,
33:50it shouldn't be called a no hitter.
33:52It should be said, the team got no hit.
33:57No hitter has to be a complete game is what you're saying.
33:59Yeah.
34:00I mean, they were no hit.
34:01The Cubs didn't get, I mean, the Cubs, the starter didn't throw a no hitter.
34:07The team got no hit.
34:09But the thing that drives me nuts about this is what the fuck happened with all this elevation
34:17in health and wellness and the training facilities and the workout regimens and the recovery
34:27and all this shit.
34:29Why are players so soft now compared to like, besides Justin Verlander, who do we have nowadays
34:36that even comes close to Nolan Ryan?
34:39Like that would just go up there and throw a hundred until their arm fell off and then
34:45come back four days later and do it again.
34:47Like these workhorse pitches, like pitchers, they were like a dime a dozen back in the
34:53eighties and even in the nineties.
34:55And now it's like these guys, like they, they, they throw 80 pitches and it's their velocity
35:01goes down.
35:02They become injury prone.
35:03It's like, how did this become like the norm and the standard analytics and all that shit?
35:09They were floating a rule.
35:10I read this like two weeks ago, maybe that they are considering making it a, if your
35:16starting pitcher has to throw six innings, no matter what you have to throw six innings,
35:21unless you give up five runs or unless there's an injury, obviously there was a couple other
35:25like rules, but if your starters in there, he's going six innings.
35:29And that's the way baseball used to be like, I remember speaking of arbitrary numbers to,
35:34if you got to 200 innings pitch, you had a quality season.
35:38Now, then it, you know, a handful of years ago is like, Oh, he'll give you 180 good innings.
35:44Now it's like 50, you know, where does it stop?
35:49It's like 50 innings.
35:50Oh man.
35:51He's kind of a workhorse.
35:52I'll give you one 50 every year.
35:53You're right.
35:54And the contracts have just gone up exponentially.
35:57It's like, it does, it doesn't make any sense.
35:59That doesn't make any sense.
36:01That's crazy.
36:02So baseball stinks right now.
36:04I also don't know.
36:05Like if, if a manga, is he a Japanese pitcher?
36:07Yes.
36:09I know.
36:10Sometimes with Japanese pitchers, like they worry about the workload and stuff.
36:11Cause they are on different schedules over there.
36:13So I don't know.
36:14I thought they threw less frequent, but more longer.
36:18Okay.
36:19I want to say that I could be completely wrong here.
36:22I thought they had, it was a seven day rest day, but they would throw like 150, 150 pitches
36:28or whatever.
36:29Pretty sweet.
36:30Maybe we could add some more rotation slots and that's how we get guys to pitch more,
36:33more games.
36:34Right.
36:35But then I guess you're getting six and sevens instead of five.
36:38It was actually cool yesterday before he showed up to the ballpark, he had a Walter Payton
36:43jersey on and he came walking out of the player's lot.
36:46Everyone took pictures.
36:47Like this Japanese guy knows who Walter Payton is.
36:50That was funny.
36:51Big sweetness, man.
36:52He was like a real goof in a good way.
36:56What'd he throw?
36:57Seven innings?
36:58Yeah.
36:59Seven innings.
37:0095 pitches.
37:01I mean, you're right, Dave.
37:02That's a, that's a quality start.
37:04That's not a no hitter.
37:06Yeah.
37:07Yeah.
37:08It's a good start.
37:09But once, once the Japanese pitchers start wearing Walter Payton jerseys, you know that
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38:06I disagree with that.
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38:08How?
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38:10Okay.
38:11Clem.
38:12Well, Dave, Dave, Dave, let's talk about this a different time.
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38:26Dave is Dave is a bad-ass griddle cook.
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38:30He, he, he, you're going to, you're going to put your mind in the gutter on this one,
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38:48Oh, we'll talk about it later.
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39:44man in sports right now.
39:45So, uh, he appeared on Instagram now, InstaFace, whatever the whole thing was.
39:49It's crazy that we used to find that entertaining back in the day.
39:52It was like, everyone had belly laughs, 300 blogs about it.
39:55It would go viral.
39:56Um, but he is now set now that the season's about to start.
40:00So this is everything.
40:01Bill's on Pat McAfee show appearance for a weekly spot, every Manning cast, uh, whenever
40:05they're on, which is probably about a dozen throughout the NFL season, Friday show with
40:09panting Manning, breaking down the upcoming games on a Monday night football matchup spot
40:13on inside the NFL, which I want that show to just be great.
40:16Like it used to be a weekly appearance on let's go with Tom Brady and then his own show
40:20on underdog fantasy.
40:21And I said, the only thing Bill Belichick isn't doing is blogging.
40:25And I think they could open up a spot here.
40:28Imagine Belichick and old balls, just double team in either a Pat's bug or fuck it.
40:32Like we can get some, uh, some old school like smut blogs or something like that.
40:36So Bill Belichick, uh, the hardest working man in football, Dante, what do you got about
40:40your boy?
40:41Just becoming a fucking media personality after years of stonewalling them at the press
40:44conferences.
40:45Dude, I'm, I'm conflicted because so he used to do a Monday show every year on wei in Boston.
40:55And it was great because he was how people are seeing him now, but it was, it was quick.
41:03He was actually like pretty good guy about it.
41:05He donated all the money that they paid him to his coaching staff.
41:09So he'd give bonuses to, you know, his coordinators and all that with that money.
41:15But, um, he was, you know, open gregarious.
41:20He was the total opposite of the guy you see on the podium, you know, stonewalling reporters,
41:27you know, every post game.
41:29So seeing him have this coming out party, I guess nationally and everybody fall in love
41:36with him and be like, wow, he's not a raging prick and huge asshole.
41:43It's, it's endearing, but it's also like, God damn it, man.
41:47Why weren't you just like this?
41:48Like years ago, like it would have been so much easier.
41:52I feel like, like the asshole Pat fans, like, like Portnoy and everybody are happy that
41:59he was a dickhead like that.
42:01Cause it played into the whole persona, but it would have been so much easier on the fan
42:07base and the team.
42:09I feel if he wasn't such a dick, because I don't think the punishments would have been
42:14as severe as they were for all the shit that he got caught doing.
42:19Probably true.
42:20That's probably true.
42:21And the way the media covered his shit.
42:22Uh, Dave, what do you have to take on this?
42:23I don't know how you feel about Belichick in general.
42:26I was always of the opinion that, uh, Belichick was the engine that made that Pat Pat's dynasty
42:34run.
42:35Um, once Brady won his super bowl with Tampa, then I, I changed that stance and admitted
42:42I was incorrect.
42:43Um, I mean, I don't, I don't know.
42:47He's not good.
42:48I love the Manning cast for one, but like he seeing him come on it, that doesn't make
42:53it any better for me.
42:55I don't need to see him at all.
42:57I never need to see Bill Belichick ever again, dude, it's going to be must watch TV.
43:03I mean, Peyton and Eli ribbing him relentlessly and then him giving it back to them.
43:09I don't think that's how it's going to be.
43:11Oh dude.
43:12If that's what it is, then awesome.
43:13Like I could be wrong, but like if I didn't know he had that show where he was like gregarious
43:18and unbuttoned, um, it's going to be, I, if he's like that, then sure, it might be awesome.
43:23And it might be football porn if they really get into like the nitty gritty of like 100%
43:28you have two of the greatest football minds ever and pay in and in Belichick and then
43:32you got goofy, you know, idiot Eli who I think, you know, they're both going to run
43:37circles around.
43:38But I mean, I think it's going to be must watch, must watch.
43:42If you ever watched, if you ever watched the, uh, I don't think it was 30 for 30.
43:47I think it was, um, NFL films did the two bills.
43:51It was Parcells and Belichick sitting at a dais talking about, I mean, those two guys
43:58together know more about football than fucking anybody on the planet.
44:05But they were talking about games from, you know, 30, 40 years ago, like they were yesterday
44:11and just so in depth, like layers and layers and layers that like the average fan, like
44:18you and me were just like mind blown about, I mean, I think it's going to be the same
44:22thing with him and Peyton.
44:23I can't wait.
44:24I'm like so pumped for Monday night football now I I've been down on it, but I can't wait
44:30to watch Manning cast every week.
44:31Oh, I think, I think it's going to be awesome.
44:33My only concern is I think he almost took like bit off more than he has so much stuff.
44:38I think like three shows where he could really like dive in on shit.
44:41Like there was that once every time there's a clip of Belichick talking about stuff with
44:45his hair down, remember it was like the NFL top 100 or they did something with him where
44:49he was on the panel and he would talk about how they would like run weird plays at the
44:53end of blowouts just to like mess with people's data.
44:55So like all the Patriots run this at the end of games, like they just did little things
44:58like that.
44:59Him and Ed Reed chopping it up was always great.
45:01Him and Peyton just talking about like how they would prepare for each other.
45:04I think he's going to, and like, he's going to be a fun guy.
45:06He's always been a fun guy.
45:07And I like when coaches don't give out any information.
45:09I don't want coaches tipping their hand either way, just because the media is upset about
45:13stuff.
45:14Like, don't say a fucking thing, keep it buttoned up.
45:16And then after Sunday you can, you know, talk about what you did and why you did it.
45:19So I think it's going to be great.
45:20And I think, I think like the people who aren't just straight up Belichick haters will
45:24like love him by the end of the, by the end of the year.
45:26I truly do.
45:27I just, the only thing that concerns me is if he's angling for a job next year, if that
45:32like stops him, makes him more reserved about certain takes on certain players or organizations.
45:36Cause like, you know, I still think he wants a coach and you know, if he has to like watch
45:41out if he's trashing the Eagles or Jalen Hurts in case he wants that job, little things
45:45like that.
45:46So that's the one thing that concerns me.
45:47Great point.
45:48Didn't think of that.
45:50That will be interesting to look out for.
45:51Yeah.
45:52So it should be fun.
45:53Can't wait for fucking football.
45:54After show, we had the punt, the draft Kings punt catch competition yesterday.
46:00Our boy Mincy put together an all-time, he just does what Mincy does, puts together a
46:03great Mincy clip, had the gloves on backwards.
46:06And our boy White Sox, Dave, I, they said the hair, I saw the picture.
46:10All these people are doing by, you know, retweeting this picture is just getting that video going
46:15to make it so much sweeter.
46:16When you guys go to, is it Turkey for the hair transplant and they're just going to
46:21make you a stronger man because of it.
46:23So the shower will take and it will take, and it will be the most luscious that air
46:27people forget.
46:28Dave didn't have a full head of hair.
46:30What, you know, Elprez back in the day and now he has that luscious hair.
46:33So we're, we're, we're rooting for you, Dave.
46:36When is that trip to Turkey?
46:37Has that been scheduled?
46:38We had it.
46:39So it's, it's absolutely happening.
46:41It's a sold sponsored, you know, paid for video and everything.
46:46But, um, getting guys to go literally to the other side of the planet, seven of them, a
46:52little difficult scheduling wise.
46:54So we had, we had a week, uh, set aside, but now it's kind of back to square one.
46:59We think it's going to be November now.
47:00Okay.
47:01Why?
47:02Who else is going on this trip?
47:03Me, Ed, uh, Rudy Penjack, smokes, Donnie, obviously he's not getting the procedure though.
47:13He's just like his, his series obviously.
47:16And then, and then I think like five fans, just random people.
47:19Nice.
47:20I heard they do teeth over there too, or at least in Albania, all cosmetic surgery over
47:24there.
47:25And people think I'm going to like, you know, fucking the corn gall Valley to get, make
47:30this happen.
47:31And it's, I mean, Istanbul is a very first world country and I don't think it'd be any
47:37like going to, it wouldn't be different than going to Toronto.
47:40I don't know.
47:41Dave, you're going to, you're going to get a BBL while you're there too.
47:44No, I don't want to sit on a $15 flight backwards the whole way.
47:48Yeah.
47:49Yeah.
47:50You heard that too.
47:51I just heard that this weekend.
47:53I know I heard that this weekend I was going to segue into that.
47:56You knew about that?
47:58I think everybody knew about that.
47:59I did not know.
48:00I did not know that.
48:01I heard that if you fly from, I think it was Puerto Rico or in Columbia back to the United
48:09States, like all the women are sitting facing the back of the plane on their knees, like
48:14the whole, the whole plane ride.
48:16Oh man.
48:19Well maybe the, that'll be the next series.
48:21Dave gets a BBL and then he can, you know, we'll have a specially made plane seat for
48:25him to make them fly back safely.
48:26Fun fact, a ball bowl was from Istanbul, Turkey, old punch out legend right there.
48:30So that's the rundown.
48:31We'll see you guys next week.
48:33Hopefully Monday's rundown.
48:34We'll have the big three back for NFL week one, nothing but a happy recap for the bears.
48:38Nothing can go wrong.
48:39Right.
48:40You know, the future is here.
48:41I actually, my prediction is they, cause everybody thinks they're going to win week one.
48:44I think they're going to lose week one.
48:46And then I think they're going to come back and yeah, Texans, the team, everybody thinks
48:51they're probably going to lose too.
48:52I think it's going to go backwards.
48:54That's just what's going on in my head.