On this episode of Bruins Beat, Evan Marinofsky and Conor Ryan break down the biggest headlines around the Boston bruins right now - including the ongoing contract negotiations between the team and goaltender Jeremy Swayman, and when an agreement will be reached. Plus, as training camp approaches, therer will be lots of competition for spots on the bottom 6. All that, and much more!
- Ty Anderson did a triathlon with Jeremy Swayman
- What will happen with Swayman?
- Reading into new comments
- Lots of competition for Johnny Beecher on the fourth line
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- Ty Anderson did a triathlon with Jeremy Swayman
- What will happen with Swayman?
- Reading into new comments
- Lots of competition for Johnny Beecher on the fourth line
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00:29With game time. I'm Evan Marinovsky. That is Connor Ryan Connor. What is up, Evan? I'm doing well. How you doing?
00:36Doing great doing great. It's end of August here. We're winding down
00:42Fall is right around the corner. I saw a tweet the other day that said in in Boston and in Massachusetts
00:47I think it was like Thursday or Friday was the last day that the Sun would set before 8 p.m
00:53Until like May of 2025 and that I like I like fall I like winter
00:58But I hate the Sun going down early. I really don't like it
01:02That's my like the during the winter when you know, you you know, you and I typically do work past 5 p.m
01:09It happens every now and again that will happen and I'll be sitting at my desk and it'll be like 530 and it's just pitch
01:16Blackout and I'm like how long like what time is it? How long have I been working for? Oh, it's 545 p.m
01:22Tough I'm not a fan of it, but that's just me. I think it's most people up. Yes
01:28Anyways a
01:30Little bit of news here a little sort of some new stuff on the Jeremy Swayman front
01:34So Jeremy Swayman actually participated in a triathlon here in Boston, which triathlons not easy
01:40That's a legit. That's a legit workout. That is not just yeah
01:45No, that's not just going to Planet Fitness lifting a few weights right on the treadmill
01:49I know that from personal experience
01:52Triathlons are very legit and he participated in one on I believe was it Sunday or Saturday?
02:01And so he Ty Anderson was there good friend Ty Anderson was there and he was taking he was taking part in the triathlon
02:08Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I was actually interviewing him
02:12He was like triathlons like you do a swimming part of it, right that's how you start off
02:16Right as part of it he was doing that while interviewing him like I'm sure the audio price sounded like shit
02:21Yeah, underwater to like, yeah, it's like it's like yeah, I'm really
02:27Exactly
02:29Ty's going up and beyond
02:32Yes, and the whole interviews I
02:36I'm really you know, I think we're gonna go
02:39That's actually what he said. That is
02:41Completely what he said that was one of the stipulations of the interview is so good
02:46Occasionally have it be muffled a little bit from the other saltwater in Bossa Nova. So
02:52I had triathlon is running
02:56Swimming biking, which it sounds I actually just thought tick-tock. It wasn't it's actually I
03:02Think so. Yeah, I'm not great with any of those
03:05Real especially swimming. I'm not like the best swimmer
03:08I can swim obviously but like in a competition. I feel like I would just you know, but I got I'm done. I'm done
03:13I can't do that. I'll run extra miles. I'll bike extra miles
03:16I can't do this, but I did see and I know we're getting a little off-topic here. But again, it's late August
03:22What do you want us to do?
03:24On on tick-tock recently. There was a guy forget the guy's name
03:27He did like a hundred and ten mile run through like the European mountains and it was it was kind of it was a
03:34Long-ass marathon obviously days long and you know, he's on mile 80 and he's like, yeah, I'm hallucinating, you know
03:40I'm seeing you know cows with like peace signs on them. My holy shit
03:45But again like to get to mentally get yourself geared up for that
03:48I've run like three miles and by like, you know mile two and a you know, two
03:52I'm like and I could just quit
03:55Well, what do I have to lose? Yeah, I could just walk the rest of the way. Why am I continuing to run?
04:01I can't imagine that but triathlons
04:04Obviously very long distance but Ty Anderson was there
04:07Ty was there and asked Jeremy Swainman about the one thing that everyone cares about Jeremy Swainman
04:12Which is why has that contract not been signed yet?
04:15And he said quote I do love it in Boston and that's all I can control and I know that I have complete trust in
04:21My agent and I know that it's gonna get done
04:23Eventually, he also went on to say because he spent the summer in Boston
04:27He's not been back in Alaska, which is the second straight summer that he's done that he said quote
04:31I knew that if I wanted to be an elite level goalie
04:33I need to train year-round at an elite level and Boston has that
04:36And that's something I've been attracted to with Boston and being able to tap into the community more and more every year and I feel
04:41More ingrained in this community. He's been working
04:44Over at BU which again has Brian Decord Ken Whittier like yeah, I know. There you go. Congratulations
04:51There's lots of areas stop at goaltending
04:53There's a lot of things in Boston and Metro Boston that are a goalies best friend, but clearly wants to be here
05:01Again I think kind of lines up with you are kind of predictions
05:04Which is sort of right before camp right around camp when people kind of come back to Boston when things kick it back into gear
05:10I I think that's when this is gonna happen. These comments don't change my
05:15Prediction of when this is gonna happen. What about you? Yeah. No, no at all
05:18I mean, I think at this point the amount of panic over this the amount of imagined worst-case scenarios
05:24I find is kind of crazy. And again, I've made the
05:28Ill-advised decision Evan to
05:31Check social media check the comments
05:34Because I wrote something about you know, when he was on the EI
05:38Nesson Jimmy fun radio telethon more or less saying the same things about you know
05:43Having full confidence in the deal getting done and all the comments and I'm sure all the comments on Thai story are like
05:49You know this negotiations going going sideways. The brooms are gonna let him walk. They're gonna end up trading him
05:56No, like everything is mapped out
05:59in this scenario where again
06:02Jeremy Saman's been out and about he's been out in Italy at a couple of weddings
06:07It's the the slow point of the the offseason. Anyway, I think once these guys get back and get around training camp
06:13They're gonna hash something out
06:15And again, like what's the final price going to be?
06:18You know, that's where the the question is, right? Like is it gonna be seven and a half?
06:21It's gonna be eight and a half. I mean the Bruins I think you look at I
06:25Think Bruins cap space had it have the Bruins at nine point three five million
06:30So it's not like they're at like seven and a half and they have to have it at that
06:35Negotiation is like you're like, please please take this
06:39Yeah, I mean, I just think you look at the the variants and what can go wrong and I get it right
06:44This is Boston. This is Bruins fans. It's the natural inclination is to imagine what could go wrong
06:51He's still a restricted free agent you get at this point of the
06:55Of the offseason where you know, you're fretting over
06:59Office sheets and I know like was a Vancouver's or the Oilers are going through some shit right now with offer sheets, but you
07:08How many teams are out there that have the means at this point of the offseason to throw out a nine and a half?
07:13Million dollar contract which again the Bruins have the cap space to accommodate that like I don't know
07:19Which seems throwing 11 million at Jeremy Swayman just to fuck with the Bruins, right? I
07:24Don't either. I just think you hit the point now where
07:28When you look at the timing of things when you look at just the Bruins and the cap space
07:32they still have which I guess when you look at you know back at July 1st why they maybe didn't pursue a
07:39guy like a
07:40You know a do Claire or one of these other top six middle six wingers who maybe was more affordable why they didn't you know?
07:47Jump in on on that sweepstakes there could see why they want to give themselves some leeway
07:51So I think you look at you know
07:53Again, the restrictions that come with the guys who are restricted free agents like Jeremy Swayman
07:58The Bruins and what they have in terms of cap flexibility and the timing of things
08:03It's kind of the same thing as what David Pasternak's contract was
08:06In 2017 when he was an RFA where I don't think that was done until I think maybe a couple of days into camp
08:12I want to say so I'm not fretting over it
08:16I
08:17Just think you look it's again. It's only natural to imagine the worse in some of these situations
08:22But I think a deal is gonna get done now
08:25What is the final price that remains to be seen but in terms of any worst-case scenarios?
08:29I think was so far past that that again. It's what day is it or recording on August 19th? Not a lot going on
08:37Not a lot to talk about but I'm not I'm not fretting over
08:41This thing going threat level midnight and going to shit in short order or anything like that
08:46Yeah, I'm not either and I know like again could this be like Tuka Rask leaving the bubble where the night before we're like
08:52Oh this, you know, who knows what he's you know, his comments were he just yeah
08:58It's the bubble then the next day. It's like Tuka Rask has decided to leave the Bruins. It's like, okay
09:02Well, there's something real here, but that was a different time
09:05Contract negotiations are much more standard than a kovat bubble
09:10So again, I'm not fretting about this either you mentioned though like a lot of things are not happening
09:16Something did just happen as we recorded
09:19Patrick line a officially a Montreal Canadian goes from the jackets to Montreal
09:24the Habs also get a 2026 second round pick which is a
09:29legitimate piece
09:31And going back to Columbus is Jordan Harris. So again defensive prospect they're going for line a in a second
09:38interesting move
09:40By Montreal and I get Columbus kind of wanted to get rid of line a we talked about, you know back in the
09:47Doldrums of the summer like, you know, would line a make sense for the Bruins?
09:50We both said no, he makes a lot of money a lot of money. There's no salary retained in that deal
09:57I think that's why
09:58Columbus had to cough up a second round pick
10:01So you're saying that the Montreal is not gonna give Jeremy swimming 11 million dollar per year offer sheet or anything like that
10:06I guess not now. I guess wave it is off the table. You can tweet that no more
10:11No, sway of into Montreal anymore. What a damn shame. That is
10:15Sway that had some other comments that I found interesting. We can kind of get into some, you know
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12:06So Swain made some other comments to Ty Anderson
12:10Saying that you quote I believe that experience is the key to it all and going through these types of things
12:15Which again he went through this last year with arbitration
12:17Quote I'm getting just as much experience right now as I did last year with different ways of it all and we know it's a business
12:23It's unfortunate at times, but I know I'm gonna be playing hockey at the end of the day
12:26And I really hope it's with the Boston Bruins now that part of it's like ooh
12:31Because you have in one quote you have the business whenever a player mentions it's a business it's like
12:37And then on the other end like oh, I hope like, you know, I'm gonna I know I'm gonna play hockey
12:42I hope it's with the Bruins, which I you know, I believe him. I know he wants to be here
12:46He spends his summers here. Like I have no doubt
12:49That he wants to be here and in the Northeast
12:52and then you know a Ty Anderson asked, you know, if he was focused on a long-term deal and
12:58Swayman said well right now I'm focused on being a triathlete
13:00So, you know again not surprising that he's not going to discuss contract specifics before they're
13:06Before they're out. I do find it interesting though. Like I am trying to gain like what does he want? What is the holdup?
13:14When they go back to the negotiating table, what is it? Is it a long-term deal?
13:18Is it a AV is it you know, we've mentioned before does he want an Austin Matthews like contract?
13:24So I like that's the other thing and I don't think we gain that from these quotes
13:27We do know that he wants to be back in Boston. Nothing's any like doubt about that, but
13:32I'm just curious what the holdup is
13:34Yeah, I mean again, it's tough to read as to what exactly he's looking for in terms of term
13:39You have to imagine for any player they're looking for if it's someone who's mentioned
13:43How much they want to be here you'd imagine it's you know security in a long-term deal after you know navigating through
13:50Arbitration last year having that eight-year contract probably is a weight off your shoulder, right?
13:55But by that same token, this is a guy that in terms of his value you have to weigh one
14:00You know could his value spike in another year or two when he's the number one goalie and maybe what we saw
14:07you know in the playoffs last year, it's just the start of
14:10legitimate top three Vesna contending goalie
14:14so you have that to contend that maybe that's influencing whether it's more of a
14:18It's looking for like a four or five-year deal is looking for an eight-year deal
14:21but even if it is eight years, you know, this is a guy that
14:25Is in kind of an interesting spot when you look at how many premier?
14:29Franchise young goalies are due to get paid next year or two, you know
14:34Some of it, you know, and this is a brewing scene that has benefited quite a bit from guys taking hometown discounts over the years
14:41But I think if you're a player in such a premium position
14:44With so many other guys behind you like Ottinger and just Eric and a few of these other players
14:51It's all about also setting the the market floor, right?
14:54Like I don't think you know
14:55He's looking at you know
14:57Six and a half million when you're looking at what could happen in another year or two, right?
15:01When just Erkin's up or Ottinger all these guys, maybe it's you know
15:05You're looking for at least eight to have that be kind of the new market floor for these guys
15:09So there's a lot of different factors that go into it. As you said, it's tough to kind of read what exactly he's looking for
15:17You know by those quotes, but I just think you look at what?
15:22Makes the most sense. It's probably just a long-term deal and comes down to what the annual payout is. And again, it's kind of
15:27You know, we've mentioned this what the entire summer that we're saying
15:31All right, seven and a half eight and a half get it done somewhere in there
15:34But it can change based on you know, what he's looking at whether he thinks is you know
15:39Is he banking on more improvement and that's why he's asking for more or anything like that. So
15:44Until we it'll be fascinating. I feel like once the news actually dropped so it's from the Bruins
15:49That's usually where it comes from in these contract negotiations. But whenever that final payout is I think we're all gonna be it's gonna be
15:55fascinating to see what
15:57They finally come to because you can make an argument for
16:00Seven and a half seven you make an argument for nine right like just the way these things kind of go
16:06I'm ready for it to be done
16:09And again, I we've you know, you and I have preached all summer that this is not something to worry about
16:14but it's still something we we do have to talk about and we have to hash out and and and
16:19Discuss and I think like that's an element where it's like, alright, let's let's get this over with let's get camp in front of us
16:25Let's talk about training camp storylines, which we will a lot
16:29Obviously in the car in the coming weeks
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18:17Guaranteed now back to the show. So last week you caught up with Johnny Beecher
18:23You caught up with Mason Lowry at TD garden at an event
18:27To deliver school supplies to kids. I like that
18:32I like their comments nerve like ah
18:34Every time you go back to school shopping. I was like dang like
18:39Seriously, that's it. Like it summers over
18:42It really was just hottening like as a kid where I feel like it'd be like you have like 4th of July
18:47Which I feel goes like a peak right of summer and it felt like you're right in the middle
18:51You still have a lot more time to go
18:53But then all of a sudden like it's it's July 5th and you already got the the Walmart and the Target
18:59Back to school things already. And I don't want to think about binders right now shit
19:03July 4th is like sort of the top of the roller coaster of summer
19:07It's once you slow up to that and then right down and then that's like summers over after July 4th
19:13So yeah, I mean I'm like going to Walmart and it was like it was always surreal
19:17Like reality was breaking going to Walmart to get all this stuff and it's summer
19:21But like school is on the mind and I'm getting you know
19:24My math packets I've got to do and gonna get you either that you're never gonna use and then cost you ever
19:31$498 or like an elementary school you'd buy like so many supplies your teacher would request and you wouldn't use like half of them and
19:38It was like, all right. Well, yes
19:40All right, I'm doing geometry. I don't need a
19:43Fusion like collider here something I buy some like from like Switzerland to get it imported in for
19:49$900 I know I don't I don't need that. I just need markets. Well, I always liked in high school just be like
19:55Four or five folders and like four or five notebooks and that's all I needed
19:59I know, you know high school was all it was all it was cuz the middle school
20:02Did you ever use the Trapper Keeper? Did you use the Trapper Keeper? I don't know what that is
20:06You missed out
20:07Trapper Keeper was this big like
20:09Binder the zipper up and in it had all your folders for every class and it'd be just like thick
20:15Oh, it was Nick. It gives me stress streams gives me PTSD
20:21But anyways
20:22you caught up with low Ryan Beecher at the event and
20:26Both talked about obviously wanting to make the team full-time
20:28The benefits of being down in Providence and one thing I kept thinking about as I was reading is like, you know
20:33We've talked a lot in this offseason about how you know, even though the Bruins went out and got Zador off
20:38Low-ry this sort of a runway for him to be a you know
20:42Good third pairing defenseman settle into everyday NHL duties like that
20:47Beecher on the other hand, I think it's different because we've talked in past episodes with the fourth line and
20:52There's no guarantees down there. I don't think anyone is guaranteed a spot. There's four or five guys
20:57You know six seven even that are vying for fourth line spots
21:01It's not a guarantee that he makes it to me
21:04I think he Johnny Beecher does have a pretty big task in front of him during this training camp. Yeah, absolutely, right?
21:10I mean you look at probably the two guys with the safest jobs are
21:15Max Jones and Mark Castle look right in terms of guys that have been around a little bit not to say they're seasoned vets
21:20But you kind of know what you're getting from from those players cast like is really good at face offs as well
21:25So he's a guy that probably has the edge if you're playing him down the middle
21:30That being said right like it's you're looking at Beecher. You're looking at Justin Brazzo if like that's just your four guys
21:35We're not even counting hell like if Riley Duran makes a push during camp
21:40Yeah, like Trevor Quintar a whole bunch of guys that are really intriguing. That's like Mark McLaughlin, right?
21:45like there's so many guys know that people were but to have a riot was it two years ago and McLaughlin didn't make the
21:51Yes, it was right. It was I mean he was great that whole preseason. So there's a lot of different options out there
21:58So nothing set in stone for a guy like Beecher
22:01That being said
22:02He is a guy that if he plays to you know
22:05His strengths if he plays the way that you saw it spurts last year and it's kind of we talked about that
22:11You know
22:12it's tough night in night out with the travel the fatigue the injuries that just pile up that you don't feel 100% every day and
22:19Then kind of managing those
22:21Managing that workload. I think is the biggest hurdle he dealt with but when he's on his game
22:25there's very few guys that or
22:28If you're trying to paint that in the prototypical guy you want your checking line in
22:32Today's NHL and guy like Beecher who is one of the better skaters in the league who's 6 3
22:39217 pounds
22:40Great at face us has contributed on the PK. And again, like I don't think he's gonna be a
22:45Scoring threat but like 7 goals 10 points in 50 ish games like not bad for a rookie trying just to find his footing
22:52So he's a guy that if he plays to his strengths and continues to play a really simple game and let's kind of his speed and
22:59size
23:00Dictate how he goes about?
23:02You know, whatever minutes available to him, you know 9 10 11 minutes
23:06He's a guy that should be in the running for one of those starting roles
23:09and if you're you know remains to be seen how you kind of configure that line, but if you're starting guys on your checking line are
23:16Beecher Jones and Castle look you got three guys that are pretty big can move really well
23:21our physical and how a little more upside in terms of
23:24Giving you some scoring punch. And again, that's not to say that Justin Brezzo is this guy that's cast to the side, right?
23:30He was really solid down the stretch. There's a guy that's really intriguing with good hands for that size
23:35so the Bruins have a good problem on their hands in terms of where that fourth line kind of
23:40Pans out but Beecher's a guy that again, I'm pretty high in terms of what he can provide and I think for him
23:46It's all about
23:47Just sticking to his strengths and letting it play out because he just plays
23:50It's kind of like Frederick, right?
23:51We're trying to do too much
23:52Takes away from a game if you play a simple smart game and you play to your strengths as to you know
23:57What makes you an effective NHL er the minutes and the opportunity should be there for a guy like Johnny Beecher
24:02Yeah, and I think like with a guy like Brazzo
24:05Brazzo to me is more built for the top nine. I think we saw that last year
24:10He's not this big physical presence
24:11He is a big guy and he's great at protecting pucks, but he's not gonna be a guy that's gonna be bruising guys out there
24:17He actually has an offensive upside and to me like I wonder, you know, the more we talk about the top six. It's like is
24:24There a chance I think there is a chance. I don't think there's a you know
24:27I don't think it's a high percentage
24:29But I think there's a chance he finds his way into the top six as camp goes if he has a really good camp and he's
24:34Effective in the preseason. It's like art. Well, maybe that's their answer at second line right wing
24:40So again and that pay again that paves the path forward for Beecher to be on that fourth line more consistently because to me
24:47It feels like the battle on that fourth line
24:49Is going to come down to Beecher and Kastelik in terms of they're both centermen right shot left shot
24:57What do you prefer?
24:58Ideally you'd have both idea in a perfect world
25:01You have Max Jones Beecher and Kastelik and you know, depending what side of the ice the faceoff was on you'd rotate those guys through
25:08but again, if Breazeau is sort of in that mix too and
25:12Suddenly he's a fourth line candidate and again, we mentioned to ran
25:17Kuntar McLaughlin
25:19you know just someone does a younger guy to two young guys like Lysel and Murkuloff make it above and then
25:26That moves the whole depth chart down and so again like you have all these
25:30Scenarios where it's got a low rye on D. I think it's more cut-and-dry
25:33I think we have a pretty damn good idea of who the 7d are gonna be
25:36I know low rye mentioned like I gotta make sure to take advantage of the opportunity. It's like well if you don't
25:42You're not just screwed, but the Bruins are screwed right because there's Parker Wotherspoon, but after that, I don't think there's a lot
25:50So again, I think low rye definitely has less competition Beecher a lot more
25:55So that's gonna be interesting to watch in training camp. I think those two
25:59Cuz again the opportunities there just comes down to them taking it
26:02I think we've hit on everything 10th of August
26:06We've swam in Ty Anderson swimming with Jeremy Swayman and going in and you know underwater with them and getting quotes
26:13You know there I always love like the GoPro videos like
26:17Going underwater. Like I don't know. It always just it's cool
26:19Like I always wanted a GoPro just to like go in the ocean be like, yeah
26:23You can hear the water hitting it, you know, but never did it
26:26I thought when you'd go down there when you put the water down there and you have the GoPro
26:29I thought our method the sound would change to like under the sea from Little Mermaid like those first couple of notes here
26:35I thought that would always happen like it would just automatically translate to the video. It doesn't though
26:41Sounds like shit. Yes. Yeah
26:43I do understand that reference. So you've seen the Little Mermaid, but you haven't seen the Godfather, correct?
26:48Yes, I will a lot of those Disney movies
26:50I saw when I was little and I haven't seen them in years
26:53But like I'm I assume I saw the Little Mermaid when I was a kid because I know like the references and stuff
26:57Oh god father. I was better mermaid and it's underwater. So there's it's very not a little
27:03Godfather's not nautical themed. Maybe while it was
27:09A really long movie it kind of all blends together
27:11Anyways Connor, what can people look forward to from you over at Boston comm in the globe?
27:16Yes
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27:33That's Connor Ryan Evan Marinovsky burns meet listeners. Have a great rest
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