Why is the Missing Persons Issue Unresolved? Major General (R) Zahid Mahmood’s
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00:00There is another issue of missing persons, which is a very serious issue and it will not be solved until it is solved.
00:08General sir, I was talking to a former army chief and a head of Intel. I asked him to tell me why this problem is not being solved.
00:19He gave two suggestions, in different words, but just one.
00:24One is that the ISI and MI in Pakistan do not have the rights to arrest people.
00:31If a person is arrested after a thorough investigation, he has to be handed over to the police.
00:37Then the police officer who has arrested him goes to court.
00:41When a lawyer asks him four questions in court, and he does not know the background or the case, he is released.
00:48Then people say, what can we do about it?
00:51One thing is that there should be permission to arrest terrorists, espionage, etc.
01:00So that the ISI comes and arrests the person and brings him to court within 48 hours.
01:08After that, there should be a civilian oversight, so that after every three months you do not have to answer the people you have arrested.
01:16But this is such a big technical issue that many people get out of the net and terrorism spreads further.
01:22You were in the operations.
01:24Is this just a matter?
01:26Because along with that, there is a fear that if permission is obtained for formal arrest,
01:32people say that the intelligence agencies do not leave it, they take it.
01:35Will this be better or will it be a loss?
01:40Mr. Malik, the situation in Balochistan is very evolving.
01:45And it is changing so quickly.
01:47The resistance or the friction from there has also changed hands very quickly.
01:56And many characters have come.
01:58Sorry for the interjection.
01:59That's why I asked, if this continues, your issue of missing persons will end.
02:05Whenever you establish things under lawfare, at least their validity or their right purpose will definitely be solved.
02:15I am sure that the situation is also very different.
02:21There are so many characters in the middle of Balochistan, especially after this interference.
02:26Now it is clear that it is being waged by a sponsor.
02:30A proxy sponsor is present and is waging.
02:33And apart from that, there are many other international applications.
02:36Because due to Chinese interest in Balochistan, a whole state is standing.
02:41See, we agree that India is spending a lot of money.
02:47There are also two or three Gulf states.
02:49Everyone knows their reasons.
02:50But they say that you can't hang your coat until there is a hook on the wall.
02:54The reasons are genuine, which terrorists are exploiting.
02:58No one is addressing those reasons.
03:00I am asking because of the technical issues.
03:02You have done counter-terrorism.
03:05I totally agree.
03:06If their laws are established, they get their rights.
03:10So I think they will not have any problem in declaring.
03:13They will not have any problem.
03:14See, I say that this is an issue of missing persons.
03:17It is a genuine issue.
03:18Some incidents do happen.
03:20And we are in the state of the war.
03:23Collateral damage is going on in the war.
03:26And this is not just happening in Pakistan.
03:28It is happening in Balochistan.
03:29If you study the history of any war in the world,
03:31if you study Sri Lanka,
03:33the counter operations they have done,
03:35and their military involvement,
03:37that has gone beyond the limit.
03:39If you look at Bangladesh,
03:40it happens in many parts of the world.
03:42But it has been exploited a lot.
03:44It has been exploited.
03:45Social movements take over.
03:47It comes on the right cause.
03:48I am not saying that it is on the wrong cause.
03:50When they are hijacked,
03:51then they change into social disruptive movements.
03:53Because money is very involved.
03:55Huge money is involved.
03:57And see, Mr. Malik,
03:58with all my respect,
04:00when the government is formed,
04:02whether it comes from Route A, B or C,
04:05unfortunately,
04:06the corruption in a province like Balochistan,
04:09and due to misgovernance,
04:11now you talk about the levies again and again,
04:13out of 83,000,
04:1460% are not on the ground.
04:16And honestly,
04:17there is also this feeling,
04:19let me share it with you,
04:20that where the levies are deployed,
04:22the security forces there
04:24are also a little afraid
04:26that they are either policing,
04:28or doing law and order,
04:30or protecting someone.
04:32Now, let me tell you,
04:33the bus that was stopped the other day,
04:36in which seven passengers,
04:37500 meters in the middle,
04:39there were two levies posted,
04:40and they were manned.
04:41It was not even that people were missing there.
04:43And in the middle of that,
04:44people were removed from a bus and killed.
04:46And nobody reacted.
04:48So, see,
04:49when the taxpayer's money is not counted,
04:51then this is bad governance.
04:52There are issues of corruption.
04:53So, see,
04:54as long as they have their responsibility,
04:56or in the midst of a missing person,
04:58then people also politicized in it.
05:00In many places,
05:01you have seen terrorists
05:02who were on the list of missing persons,
05:03they were killed,
05:04they were found there.
05:05Because a narrative of the state,
05:07against the state,
05:08a narrative has been built.
05:09And this is not a common thought,
05:10this is not that an angry bloke
05:12went in anger and took a gun,
05:14and the same thought is being implemented.
05:16This train,
05:17behind it,
05:18a whole state is standing,
05:19its thinking is standing,
05:20its strategy is standing,
05:21which wants to implode Pakistan,
05:23which wants to capture Pakistan's policy.
05:25Yes, but sir,
05:26that will always be the enemy.
05:27First, we will order our own house.
05:29We can't keep blaming people for exploiting us.
05:32Our issue is this,
05:33let me confess,
05:34that when we make laws,
05:35the purpose for which we make them,
05:37unfortunately,
05:38then they are misused a little.
05:40And that thing creates problems.
05:42The law that you have made for this purpose,
05:44then political settlement,
05:45or political...
05:46Sir, I was told to take a break.