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- Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar (Senior Leader)
- Fawad Chaudhry (Senior Leader)
- Khurram Dastgir Khan PMLN
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, with the program Khabar Lahariya, I am Maria Memon.
00:17The government must have lost its cool because just a few days ago,
00:21the IMF approved a $7 billion bailout package for Pakistan.
00:27There were a few worrisome signs before this, because the agenda that used to be there,
00:32this item did not come up for discussion on behalf of Pakistan.
00:36This time, this loan for Pakistan has not only been approved,
00:41but has also created an opportunity for the current setup for three years.
00:45After approval, the Executive Board has also approved the first case of $1.1 billion.
00:54The new loan program for Pakistan will last for 37 months,
00:58which is more or less a period of three years.
01:01In July, a staff level agreement was signed between Pakistan and the IMF,
01:05but then there were delays, so there was a little concern, a little excitement,
01:10that why is this case not being approved?
01:13But today, the government has got a shot in the arm.
01:16After this, Zaraik has said that the IMF loan will be 5% less than the interest rate.
01:22Pakistan had completed its last $3 billion loan in April,
01:26and last month, the International Ratings Agency, Fitch, and the International Credit Rating Agency, Moody's,
01:31had also upgraded Pakistan's credit rating.
01:35To obtain a loan for this program, Pakistan had to get a bailout package from a friendly country,
01:41and the loan amount was required.
01:43And due to the lack of confidence from the friendly country,
01:46the acquisition of this program was still in doubt.
01:50We will talk about this in the first segment of the program.
01:52Mr. Shahbaz Rana is with us.
01:54He has been consistently reporting on this issue and the economy.
01:57He has been ahead of the curve.
01:59Shahbaz, when this news broke,
02:01first of all, tell us what are the biggest conditions of this agreement,
02:07so that we know what guarantees we have given in return for this loan.
02:12What are the conditions that we have to follow?
02:16In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
02:18Thank you very much, Ms. Maria.
02:19If you look at this program, there are four big pillars.
02:22One is to invest in it.
02:24Second is to make the government institutions better.
02:28Third is the fiscal sustainability in it,
02:32that you have to improve the overall financial system of Pakistan.
02:36And fourth is the plan to increase the tax revenue of the IMF.
02:40This is an overall, in general, if you give a statement,
02:43this is how it is made.
02:45But if you go further into the conditions,
02:49then according to the size of today's economy of Pakistan,
02:53the government has to increase the tax net by an additional 3,600 billion rupees,
03:01which is called equal to 3% of GDP.
03:04But today's GDP is about 3,600 billion rupees in taxes,
03:09which has to be done over a period of three years.
03:11The fourth pillar is the sustainability of the power sector.
03:15And the major focus of the IMF in this new program is to increase electricity prices.
03:23You have seen that the government has already increased electricity prices by 51% since July.
03:29There is also a focus on expenses, but not so much.
03:33One new thing in this program is that unlike in the past,
03:38when the IMF program was a loyalty program,
03:41this time all the four provincial governments and their budgets are included in the program.
03:46There are about 10 to 12 such conditions in this new program,
03:50which are directly hitting the budgets of the provinces.
03:54As you said, there are two big things.
03:57One is that the tax revenue has to be increased.
04:00But the increase in electricity prices is directly affecting the lives of the people here.
04:06Why was the Subo thing included?
04:10And was it said in the past that we are also setting milestones for Subo?
04:16Is it because of the electricity subsidies that were being announced from Subo?
04:20Without talking to the IMF, without getting approval from them,
04:23they have crystallized it more strictly in a written format.
04:27Will you inform us about this first? Can't you do it without that?
04:33Look, in the past programs, there was only one thing related to Subo.
04:37And that was that the four provincial governments had to save a specific amount from their budget.
04:43They had to show cash surplus and then they would be included in the overall goal of the IMF program.
04:49This time things are different.
04:51And the basic reason for this is that the National Finance Commission, the seventh,
04:55has transferred funds to Subo.
04:59And their expenses have not been transferred.
05:01Even if they were transferred, the government took responsibility for the expenses.
05:06Like health, education, social safety net.
05:09So this is the fundamental issue due to which the IMF program is directly including Subo.
05:15The reason is that the IMF talked about signing a national fiscal pact.
05:21Its deadline is September 30.
05:23And all four provincial governments have to sign a pact
05:27in which all three to four types of expenses, partly or fully,
05:31on health, education, social safety net, beneficial income support program,
05:39all these expenses will be transferred.
05:41Partly, if there is any duplication, that will be over.
05:43And then the road infrastructure that comes under the domain of Subo,
05:47the expenses related to that will be transferred to Subo.
05:50The agriculture sector, as you know,
05:53is about 20-24% of Pakistan's economy.
05:56And it is almost outside the tax net.
05:59It is written in the constitution that the loyal government
06:02will not impose income tax on the agriculture sector in Subo.
06:07So to address that issue, there is a condition in this program
06:11that by October 30, the rates of the loyal government's federal income tax,
06:18the rates of my and your companies,
06:20will be aligned with the rates of the agricultural income tax
06:24of all four provincial governments,
06:26especially those of business individuals,
06:28which is 45%.
06:30Its deadline is October 30.
06:32Then there is a special economic zone,
06:34which is created by Subo and the loyal government.
06:39There is a restriction on the creation of such zones.
06:41You talked about electricity subsidies.
06:43In general, the provinces will not give subsidies.
06:46But the Punjab government made a decision
06:49in which the loyal government,
06:51especially the Ministry of Finance, was not included.
06:54In the province, they gave subsidies.
06:57They also gave subsidies in the capital territory of Islamabad.
06:59After that, a new condition has been added to it,
07:02which is the program of Pakistan,
07:04that any provincial government,
07:06as long as it is an IMF program,
07:08which is a 37-month program,
07:10will not give subsidies on electricity or on gas.
07:13There are some other similar conditions related to this,
07:15which have been implemented for the first time in the provinces.
07:18Okay.
07:19For the next three years,
07:21the 7 billion will be released from time to time.
07:25Will there be audits in between?
07:28Are there any milestones in between?
07:30Are there any checks and balances?
07:32Or should we expect smooth sailing for the next three years?
07:37No, there is no such thing.
07:39Smooth sailing has never been in the past.
07:41And this time, the IMF program is a very difficult program.
07:44I am covering the fourth IMF program in my professional career.
07:48And this is probably the most difficult program that Pakistan has agreed.
07:52The reason for this is that we take programs
07:54and do not implement them.
07:56The things of the past are saved
07:58and now the IMF has started including them in the next program.
08:01So, there will probably be at least two reviews in a year.
08:05And there will be benchmarks for every review.
08:07There are three to four basic conditions in this.
08:10There is a performance criteria.
08:13For example, what will be the loss of the budget?
08:15What will be the expenditure on health and education?
08:18What will be the net reserves of the State Bank of Pakistan?
08:21Will the government not give a tax amnesty scheme?
08:24These are the performance criteria.
08:26Then there is a structural benchmark.
08:28You have to make some changes in the rules.
08:30You have to take some more steps.
08:32For example, you have to sign the National Fiscal Pact.
08:34There are things related to agriculture income tax.
08:36There are things related to the Special Economic Zone.
08:38And there are some prior actions that have to be done in advance.
08:41For example, the government has imposed new taxes of Rs. 1400 to Rs. 1800.
08:44They have increased electricity prices.
08:46These were the prior actions.
08:47These things, these benchmarks, these goals have been set.
08:50The IMF will review them.
08:52Especially, the targets of your tax are also set.
08:55And the shortfall of Rs. 98 billion has already come in two months.
09:00There is another shortfall of Rs. 100 billion.
09:02There is an internal assessment of FBR only this month.
09:08After the internal assessment, there will be a shortfall of Rs. 200 to Rs. 250 billion.
09:14For this, you will have to bring a mini budget.
09:16The government is not denying this mini budget.
09:20They are not denying it.
09:22They agree to it at a small level.
09:24The pressure of foreign actors on Pakistan.
09:27Do we feel that there will be some scope in that?
09:29Will there be any difference in that?
09:31What is the biggest weakness of this program?
09:38The biggest weakness of this program is that the core issue of Pakistan's economy,
09:44which is why Pakistan is repeatedly going to the IMF program,
09:47is that it does not have the funds of foreign countries.
09:50And the loans that you have to pay in one year are more than double.
09:56If we are sitting on a reserve of 9.5 billion dollars today,
09:59then in this financial year alone, Pakistan has to repay loans of 26.3 billion dollars to foreign countries.
10:04Ali Parvez Malik has himself said that in the next four years, we have to repay at least 100 billion dollars.
10:10The fundamental weakness of this program is that the restructuring of Pakistan's debt has not been included in this program.
10:21And you can say that oxygen is applied.
10:26As long as you are in the IMF program, you will not be able to repay the 12.7 billion dollar cash deposit of Saudi Arabia, China, and Kuwait.
10:35You will take a rollover every year.
10:37Along with that, there are some commercial loans of 4 billion dollars from China.
10:39Its rollover is included.
10:40Then some additional financing is also included.
10:42So this arrangement of the IMF,
10:45and the way the IMF is still calling Pakistan's loan sustainable,
10:50is that you don't have to repay the bilateral loans.
10:54If you keep rolling it over, your debt will be sustainable.
10:57The day that country says that I want my money back,
11:02I will not extend it to you after a year,
11:05then the debt of Pakistan will be unsustainable in the eyes of the IMF.
11:08That is a problematic thing.
11:10So instead of taking this thing head on,
11:12that you have gone under the umbrella of the IMF,
11:15under the IMF umbrella,
11:17you have to restructure all your loans, including domestic debt,
11:21so that you can find a solution to this problem once and for all.
11:24Neither the government is ready to go to the IMF for political reasons,
11:27nor are the banks ready to go to the IMF,
11:29because the biggest lender of the government is the domestic banks,
11:33and neither is the IMF ready to go to the IMF.
11:35So this is the reason,
11:37I think that until this problem is not solved,
11:40then it is possible that this 25th program,
11:42which the Prime Minister has called the last program of Pakistan,
11:44may not be the last program.
11:46Thank you very much, Mr. Shehbaz Rana,
11:48for explaining in great detail
11:50why this is the most difficult IMF program in the history of Pakistan.
11:53And we are all running on eggshells right now,
11:56because the future of this program depends on the basis of many of our foreign and diplomatic relations.
12:04So foreign policy and the IMF program are very closely linked.
12:08We will go to the break when we come back.
12:10The government is adamant about bringing back the constitutional courts,
12:13and at the same time,
12:14it does not even want to act on the decisions of the Supreme Court.
12:18Today, Irfan Siddiqui spoke very clearly on this.
12:21In the next segment of the program,
12:22we will talk about senior politicians,
12:24how this judicial meltdown is playing out,
12:27and what end we see to it.
12:29We will talk about this after the break.
12:36Welcome back.
12:37The government is adamant about bringing back the constitutional courts.
12:40Today, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman met some journalists in Islamabad,
12:44and those who met him,
12:46got the impression that Maulana is also on board on many things.
12:51Now, the government has two or three choices.
12:53One is that Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman should stand up with all the conditions,
12:56with all the suggestions of bringing back the courts,
12:58and give a vote.
13:00The second option is that after the review,
13:02the senators of Tehreek-e-Insaaf, or those who have ties to Tehreek-e-Insaaf,
13:05or those who have their eyes on the free members,
13:08in any case, the determination in their voice,
13:11we see a glimpse of their determination,
13:15we heard that yesterday from Bilawal Buttoz.
13:17He said that the constitutional court will be brought back,
13:20and the constitutional court will definitely be made.
13:22Let's see who is standing where in the matter of the constitutional court.
13:25Legislation and legislation cannot be done through the courts.
13:29According to our rules, you will make appointments in the judiciary.
13:32We will make a constitutional court,
13:35so that no other prime minister is put on the throne.
13:39The constitutional court will be made at any cost.
13:42This is the demand of the Charter of Democracy.
13:45And in the constitutional court,
13:47only those people will sit in the Supreme Court.
13:50A constitutional court should be present,
13:52so that the political cases, the constitutional cases,
13:54the cases of the public should move forward quickly,
13:59and justice should be provided to the people soon.
14:01In this regard, the proposal that was given to us,
14:04the Islamic scholars clearly said that we are not satisfied.
14:09This amendment was very unique,
14:11neither the convener saw it, nor the parliament saw it,
14:14neither the senator or the opposition saw it.
14:16They are going to pass an amendment.
14:18What kind of amendment is this?
14:19Even the public has not seen it.
14:20The constitutional court is a part of the Charter of Democracy.
14:24There is no hurry in this.
14:26As a parliamentarian,
14:28why not use this opportunity to strengthen the parliament?
14:35The government's fight with the judiciary and its allies are two-sided.
14:39One is the current Constitutional Court,
14:43and the existing Supreme Court.
14:45Irfan Siddiqui has presented the excuses for not agreeing to his decision.
14:50It seems that the government will never implement the decision of the specific judges.
14:56In fact, he has also said that there is also an impeachment of judges in civilized countries.
15:01So the government is at the forefront in this matter.
15:03Listen to what Irfan Siddiqui said today.
15:06What is this?
15:07What kind of amendment is this?
15:08What kind of law is this?
15:09When the amendment says three days,
15:11when the law says three days,
15:12where did you get 15 days from?
15:14Where did this power come from?
15:15If you have taken this power, then you have taken it wrong.
15:18The Supreme Court's decision is also that the Sunni Council cannot give you these seats.
15:23But from here, that idea of need arises.
15:25That idea of convenience arises.
15:27Are the judges of the court, like us, from among humans?
15:31Or, God forbid, is it a tribe of prophets that cannot commit a mistake?
15:36We believe that this decision has been made more than once.
15:39The constitution has been broken again and again.
15:41And the law of 2017 has been broken again and again.
15:44When the court is accused of a very big mistake,
15:47and a wrong decision that is directly contradictory to the constitution comes forward,
15:51today it should be decided that if we do something contradictory to the constitution, the court will correct it.
15:57If the court does the same thing that we do, then who will correct it?
16:02It's been three days.
16:03The Election Commission of Pakistan has been holding meetings again and again.
16:06There is a session.
16:07That session is then dismissed.
16:08Neither do they implement that decision, nor do they give their opinion openly.
16:11When the Supreme Court's detailed decision came forward,
16:13which the Election Commission of Pakistan gave a very strong rebuttal a few hours later,
16:16but we are still seeing that no answer has come from their side.
16:20Musfa Nawaz Khokhar Sahib, Fawad Chaudhary Sahib are present with us in the program.
16:23The constitutional meltdown that Khwaja Asif Sahib was talking about,
16:26it seems that the time has come.
16:28First of all, let's talk about the I.N.I. Court.
16:31So, Mr. Fawad, all stakeholders are on board on the I.N.I. Court.
16:34Except for the Justice Department.
16:36How will they stop them?
16:37Because the government has somehow convinced Mr. Maulana.
16:41Mr. Emil Wali is also with us.
16:42People's Party, PMLN are openly with us.
16:44So, what will Hikmat-e-Amli do with PTI to stop the I.N.I. Court?
16:48Look, Maria, the first thing is that this I.N.I. Court or the rest of the amendments,
16:53neither you have seen it, nor have I seen it, nor has Mustafa seen it.
16:57We only know that there were three or four drafts.
17:00And Azam Nazeer Tariq Sahib said on one draft that I have got this.
17:05Although, of course, the law minister drafts it.
17:08But luckily, even the law minister does not know.
17:10Even Mr. Dar did not see this draft.
17:12Mr. Dar did not see the draft.
17:13So, this draft, whoever has made it, when they show it, of course,
17:19there can be a lot of detail on it.
17:21But look, the concept of the Constitutional Court,
17:24the first thing is that in common law countries,
17:27except South Africa, in any other country where there is an adversarial system
17:32or where it is easy to understand the British system,
17:36there is no Constitutional Court.
17:39The reason for that is that, for example, your salary has been taxed.
17:43Now, I am challenging that tax in the Supreme Court.
17:46Now, that statute is also an issue, but your fundamental rights are also an issue.
17:50So, where will I go?
17:52In the same way, the more terrifying thing in this is that the power of Article 199,
17:58all the lawyers go and file a writ every day.
18:02The writ is practically over.
18:04Because you have put two or three things.
18:06You said that if there is a national security issue, then the writ is already over.
18:10Then you said that the lawyers, the judges,
18:14we will review them every year.
18:16That too on the source report.
18:18And on the source report, you can send the judge home or outside the province.
18:22Even the SHO cannot be sent outside the province in Punjab and Sindh.
18:27So, the practice of writing is practically over.
18:31The third thing is that even if you take this amendment,
18:35you are saying that the biggest argument of the government at this time is that
18:41these cases are stuck in the hands of ordinary people.
18:45Look, at the moment, 57,000 cases are pending in the Supreme Court
18:51and 4,640,000 cases are pending in the lower courts.
18:55So, you are not doing anything for the 4,640,000 cases that are pending.
19:00You are doing something for the 57,000 cases.
19:03And secondly, look, in the Constitutional Court,
19:05now the decision of the Supreme Court is final.
19:08Now, every case that the Supreme Court decides,
19:11it will also go to the Constitutional Court.
19:13They will say that the Supreme Court has not come yet.
19:15So, it is a mess up.
19:16This happens in Korea too.
19:17There are two courts and they keep giving stays against each other.
19:20They keep giving decisions against each other.
19:21I am talking to a law expert.
19:23The Constitutional Crisis remains the same.
19:25Will this happen in North Korea?
19:27Most probably.
19:28Mr. Munir Malik told me that this will happen.
19:30Because our model at the moment is North Korea.
19:32There is a Constitution in North Korea.
19:34Kim Il Sung.
19:35There is a Kim Constitution.
19:37Kim Constitution.
19:38But the situation is that,
19:40yesterday Bilawal said that all these constitutional cases
19:44take a lot of time in the hands of the courts.
19:46And the cases of ordinary people take very little time.
19:50And this is true to some extent.
19:52We have been seeing this for the last two and a half years.
19:54The crisis that the politicians themselves have to solve,
19:58they don't do it.
19:59The case goes to the courts.
20:00Take this from the elections in Punjab.
20:02The elections are yet to take place.
20:03The elections are yet to take place.
20:04There are special seats.
20:05Where is this Constitutional Crisis being created from?
20:07The Election Commission and political classes have to solve it.
20:10And you send it to the courts.
20:11So, if someone goes to the courts,
20:13then this crisis comes to them.
20:15This is true in its place.
20:17For the past 3-4 years,
20:19and I will go even further than that,
20:21since the time of Saqib Nisar Sahib,
20:23since the time of Iftikhar Chaudhary Sahib,
20:25the tradition that we have,
20:27has made politics so complicated.
20:32People's grievances have increased so much.
20:34Instead of the Supreme Court being considered
20:36an institution where people go for the resolution of their problems,
20:40or political parties go for the resolution of their problems,
20:43biased decisions were made there.
20:45So, our country has a complete history in this regard.
20:49And now politics has reached the stage
20:52where political parties refuse to accept each other's existence.
20:56If you look at Tehreek-e-Insaf,
20:58they don't consider Muslim League Noon and People's Party
21:00as legitimate stakeholders in this system.
21:03They say, we don't want to talk to them.
21:05The work of the governments in the Jamaat-e-Hakumat
21:08is to create an atmosphere,
21:10to reduce political tensions.
21:12The Jamaat-e-Hakumat is persecuting us to this extent.
21:16What has happened to the political workers in the last 2.5-3 years,
21:21I think we thought that this time has passed from Pakistan
21:25and this will not happen again.
21:27Now there will be a healing touch, a course correction.
21:29But we have started to deteriorate so much
21:32that now Fawad is sitting with us,
21:36who has gone through this.
21:38There are many other people.
21:39People's politics have been destroyed.
21:41We have made politics meaningless.
21:43The effect of this,
21:45in my opinion,
21:47which is not a good effect for national unity,
21:52is that politics has become meaningless.
21:56People don't understand that this parliament is the solution to our problems.
22:00People don't understand that these political parties
22:03can solve our problems.
22:04Disappointment has spread among people.
22:07And our condition is that we are not even ready to solve the problems.
22:11And where there are failures of politicians,
22:15they are present in their own place.
22:17But you cannot deny the fact that
22:20the establishment also has an oversized role in politics.
22:23It is a country of 25 crore people.
22:25The aspirations of the personalities here,
22:27their own self-interests,
22:29they have achieved superiority at this time,
22:32both on the constitution and on the national system.
22:34We are talking about the constitutional amendment.
22:37Fawad has explained it very well.
22:41But the bottom line is that
22:43Qazi Faiz Issa Sahib is being tried to retain.
22:48This is the reality.
22:50And the whole world is aware of this.
22:52To increase the age and to bring him to the constitutional court,
22:57I think this is a very...
22:59Maulana doesn't agree with this.
23:01I think Maulana has strong grievances about this.
23:05That this should not happen.
23:07It is possible that when he negotiates,
23:09this should not happen.
23:10I think Bilawal and Maulana will ditch Faiz Issa Sahib.
23:13Really?
23:14This is Bilawal's wish.
23:16Bilawal's speech and Maulana's conversation today,
23:20I think if they reach a consensus,
23:23then Faiz Issa Sahib will be a casualty.
23:25Where is PM Ilhan?
23:26Because she is proactively lobbying for people's party culture.
23:29She is explaining this.
23:31She is making a narrative in favour of this.
23:33Okay, this is their political right.
23:35And they have been talking about this before.
23:37We should give them that grace.
23:39But PM Ilhan, who has his own law,
23:41Nawaz Sharif, I don't know where he is.
23:43I have not heard any statement from Nawaz Sharif regarding this.
23:46You are bringing such a big constitutional amendment.
23:49What do you think about three-time Prime Ministers?
23:51Do you know or does anyone else know?
23:53Okay.
23:54What does Nawaz Sharif think?
23:56Of course, only the angels sitting on their shoulders know.
24:01Because they must be talking in the dark.
24:04Till now, they have never spoken to anyone
24:07to find out what it is and what it is not.
24:09Now, one point, sir,
24:11I would like to talk about what you talked about earlier.
24:15You said that all these political matters go to the courts.
24:19Why do they go?
24:21Look, in a democracy,
24:23you have created different institutions.
24:25Your Speaker's institution has been completely abolished.
24:28Your Chairman's Senate's institution has been completely abolished.
24:31Election Commission of Pakistan has been completely abolished.
24:34So, when you have abolished all these political institutions,
24:37then only the courts are left.
24:39Who else will anyone go to?
24:41They will go to the courts, right?
24:43Now, for example, look at Mr. Ijaz Chowdhury of our PTI.
24:47He is not issuing his production order yet.
24:51Now, I said,
24:53obviously, Mr. Gilani has a lot of respect for me.
24:55He is like an elder to me.
24:57He is like a family elder to me.
24:59But, look, when Benazir Bhutto was the Prime Minister,
25:02he was a civilian Prime Minister.
25:04So, for the production order of Sheikh Rashid,
25:06Mr. Gilani took a stand.
25:08And said, no, no, he will definitely come.
25:10Now, Mr. Ijaz Chowdhury,
25:12Mr. Gilani is saying,
25:14no, I have no connection with him.
25:16So, when the Chairman's institution of the Senate has been abolished,
25:19the Speaker's institution has been abolished,
25:22Now, look at the PMLN.
25:24If you look at a wider story in Pakistan,
25:27Pakistan's crisis has increased
25:29due to the fight between the PTI and the establishment.
25:33What is the problem?
25:34Whatever it is, the four, I would say, factors
25:38that support the federation of Pakistan,
25:42are the army, PTI, PMLN and People's Party.
25:46Now, the People's Party and PMLN
25:48have hurt themselves so much in trying to end the PTI,
25:53that all these four factors of Pakistan have become a bubble.
25:58Now, look at the situation in Punjab.
26:01I was talking, yesterday I was at a wedding,
26:04there were a lot of political people from Punjab there.
26:08They are saying that from Attock to Lahore,
26:11in this election, in the next election,
26:13there will be no one to buy tickets for the Noon League.
26:16Who will fill the vacuum created by the Noon League?
26:20The extremists will fill it in Punjab.
26:22But, I don't see any evidence of this.
26:24Because, the situation is that,
26:25it seems as if the fight is moving towards a decision.
26:28The government has said today that it will not implement it.
26:31In so many words, Irfan Siddiqui has said,
26:33short of contempt of court,
26:35that look, we don't like this decision.
26:38The Supreme Court's decision is not being implemented since 2022.
26:42This is not the first time.
26:43This is not the first time.
26:44So, if you look at it effectively since 2022,
26:46then the constitution is compromised.
26:47This is not the first time.
26:48This is what is called a constitutional breakdown.
26:50The extremists who are going towards Anarki,
26:52they are going for this reason,
26:54that you have decided that we will not listen to anyone.
26:58On 8th February, the people gave a mandate.
27:00You said that we will not listen.
27:02The next day, when we woke up,
27:03the whole of Pakistan was caught in the hands of people
27:05with Form 47 ready.
27:07You rejected a very big opinion of the people.
27:09Then, the fights that continued,
27:11eventually, the full court was formed.
27:14Now, you don't want to listen to the people's decision.
27:16You don't want to listen to the decision of 11 judges and 8 judges.
27:20And in those 11 judges, Qazi Faiz Issa Sahib is also included,
27:23who says that the status of the political community of Tehreek-e-Ishaaf
27:27is permanent and permanent in its place.
27:29So, what do we have to do?
27:31Look, our challenges,
27:34and one of our biggest challenges right now,
27:38is in relation to terrorism.
27:40Every day, our soldiers are being martyred,
27:42civilians are being martyred.
27:43And tell me,
27:44is there any consensus in the political parties on this?
27:47There is no consensus at all.
27:49The declaration of resignation was made,
27:51the talks were held,
27:52but after that, all those talks,
27:54the political parties could not manage it,
27:57because we are not ready to see eye to eye.
27:59But the problem is that the politicians
28:02who have been in politics for 40 years,
28:04even Mr. Zardari,
28:05look, he has been in politics for a long time,
28:08Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
28:09from 1985 onwards,
28:10he has been in politics for a long time.
28:11Today, Mrs. Maryam said something,
28:13which is very interesting,
28:14please listen to it.
28:15When some ambassadors went to meet Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
28:18and asked him,
28:19how does he see the political crisis?
28:21What did Mr. Nawaz Sharif answer?
28:23Mrs. Maryam is narrating this herself,
28:25so obviously, this is a factually correct thing,
28:27please listen to it.
28:28This morning, an ambassador had come to Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
28:32I was also sitting with him,
28:35and he said,
28:36how do you see the political crisis in Pakistan?
28:42Mr. Nawaz Sharif said,
28:43we have grown in this crisis,
28:45we have grown politically in this crisis,
28:48and even today,
28:49there is nothing new for us in Pakistan,
28:51this has been happening for a long time.
28:53Mr. Fawad,
28:54this has been happening for a long time in Pakistan,
28:56is this an extension of it?
28:57Either we don't know how big the crisis is,
29:01or there is no capacity to solve it,
29:04or it will grow out,
29:05and time will pass.
29:07This is just another statement of an SHO.
29:10This is what she is mainly saying.
29:13Because basically,
29:14Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
29:19or Maryam Nawaz,
29:20all their conversations,
29:23they don't have much relevancy.
29:25Nor have we seen,
29:27like you were saying,
29:29that someone understands.
29:31I don't know what position they are in.
29:33They come,
29:34vote,
29:35and then leave.
29:36We don't know their position on any issue.
29:38We don't know.
29:39Right now,
29:40their position on Faiz-e-Isha,
29:42they themselves have never said what their position is.
29:45So,
29:46right now,
29:47the problem in the non-league is that,
29:48whatever it is,
29:49people don't look at the non-league for decisions.
29:52The non-league and Zardari,
29:54it has now become,
29:56what decision do they have to make?
29:58They are sitting on the side,
30:00eating curd.
30:01So,
30:02this is a big problem.
30:03And what they have said,
30:05that we will continue to have such crises,
30:08and not like this.
30:09So, that really shows,
30:10that Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
30:12has no idea at all,
30:14where Pakistan has gone.
30:16And this is PMLN's main,
30:18I would say,
30:19and it's a loss for Pakistan as well.
30:20Right.
30:21It's a big,
30:22heavy party.
30:23And it's presence,
30:24and taking part in politics,
30:25is a very vibrant democracy.
30:27I disagree with this a little.
30:29In my opinion,
30:30Mr. Nawaz Sharif is fully on board.
30:32He knows everything.
30:34His supporters,
30:36they create an image,
30:38that Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
30:40has no knowledge,
30:41he is not happy.
30:42They keep an exact path for him,
30:44that later,
30:45if Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
30:46has to change anything.
30:47When he has to do it.
30:48Yes.
30:49Or he has a good intention to win people's hearts.
30:50His daughter,
30:51is now the Prime Minister of Punjab.
30:53His brother,
30:54is the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
30:55His relative,
30:56is the Deputy Prime Minister.
30:58So,
30:59he is fully in power.
31:01I was in a decision-making program,
31:03with Mr. Rana Sanaullah.
31:05He said it very categorically.
31:07He said,
31:08there is no decision,
31:09in which Mr. Nawaz Sharif's opinion is not included.
31:10That's right.
31:11So,
31:12to imagine,
31:14that he is not on board,
31:15he is on board.
31:16I am surprised,
31:17that Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
31:19is a very important figure,
31:21in Pakistan's politics.
31:23And,
31:24after 40 years,
31:2645 years,
31:27after 40 years,
31:29he is standing here,
31:31and I don't understand,
31:32how did he accept this situation.
31:34His circle,
31:35is the only circle in Pakistan,
31:37in which,
31:38at 3.30 in the night,
31:40the RO is changed.
31:42The RO,
31:44of the circle,
31:45disappears.
31:46He fell ill.
31:47He fell ill.
31:48He was forced to go to the hospital.
31:49He fell ill.
31:50He was forced to go to the hospital.
31:52And,
31:53at 3.30 in the morning,
31:54a new returning officer is appointed,
31:56to count the people.
31:57If,
31:58after such a long political journey,
32:00you had to come and stand here,
32:02then after that,
32:03you,
32:04as Fawad was saying,
32:06you can't expect from them,
32:08that they will take a position.
32:09They have to live with this system.
32:11They will never go against this system.
32:13They have a complete share in this system.
32:16And,
32:17the hybrid pro-max model,
32:18which is present in front of us,
32:20these communities,
32:21who are passing the laws,
32:22in their place.
32:24Now,
32:25in Islamabad,
32:26regarding the Jalsa Jalus,
32:27they passed the law.
32:28To gag the media,
32:30they brought the defamation act in Punjab.
32:32Tell me,
32:33won't these things apply to them?
32:35They have been in power all their lives.
32:37But, it aligns.
32:38It always aligns with PMLN's ideology.
32:40I am not surprised at all.
32:41I am a little surprised at the People's Party.
32:42Okay, quickly,
32:43concluding this debate,
32:44in the next one month,
32:46do you think,
32:47that these reforms will be passed?
32:48And,
32:49that the Ayni Court will be established?
32:51Or, are you seeing some resistance?
32:52Or,
32:53do you think that the opposition,
32:54will do some magic?
32:55Or,
32:56Maulana Sahib will come in between?
32:57What do you think?
32:58Look,
32:59I think that,
33:00if Maulana Sahib takes a position,
33:02if Maulana Sahib,
33:04stands against these Ayni reforms,
33:07then,
33:08he will get a very big chance,
33:09to revive his politics.
33:11The problem with Tehreek-e-Insaf,
33:13is that,
33:14they are so divided in factionalism,
33:16that,
33:17one car wheel is going that way,
33:18one is going that way,
33:19they don't understand,
33:20what is the direction of the party.
33:21And,
33:22the failures of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
33:23is that,
33:24you are not able to gather the opposition,
33:26in one place.
33:27You are not able to capitalize.
33:28You are not able to capitalize.
33:29That is absolutely right.
33:30There are big crises,
33:31where are you missing?
33:32And,
33:33to deal immaturely,
33:34so,
33:35that direction is less.
33:36But,
33:37for Maulana,
33:38a very big opportunity,
33:39is going to be created,
33:40if the government,
33:41forcibly,
33:42look,
33:43the aim of 63A,
33:44is that,
33:45the numbers are not complete.
33:46Remove 63A,
33:47from the middle,
33:48the members of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
33:50the members of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
33:51break them.
33:52We will not need Maulana,
33:53we will have complete numbers.
33:55The aim is this,
33:56and they have to do this.
33:57They have to get the decisions,
33:58from the court.
33:59And,
34:00after that,
34:01this will be a very big opportunity,
34:03for Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
34:04in the politics of Pakistan.
34:06And,
34:07I would like,
34:08that they capitalize this.
34:10Your take, Fawad.
34:11Within a month,
34:12we will pass this amendment,
34:13because,
34:14we are not able to see the capacity,
34:15of the opposition.
34:16Frankly,
34:17they don't even have the numbers,
34:18to stop this amendment.
34:19If this amendment,
34:20is to be passed,
34:21then,
34:22it has to be done,
34:23before 10th or 11th.
34:24After that,
34:25there is the SCO conference,
34:26so,
34:27you may not be able,
34:28to do it on the streets.
34:29So,
34:30they have to do it,
34:31before 10th or 11th.
34:32Secondly,
34:33whoever,
34:34has given this,
34:35advice to the establishment,
34:36has given another,
34:37very wrong advice.
34:38What is the reason for that?
34:39Even if this amendment,
34:40is passed,
34:41it will be treated,
34:42as PCO.
34:43Just like,
34:44General Musharraf's PCO,
34:45more than that,
34:46no lawyer,
34:47can treat this,
34:48as PCO.
34:49So,
34:50Vukla Movement,
34:51if you can't see it now,
34:52you will see it,
34:53after that.
34:54It is not possible,
34:55just like,
34:56if your channels,
34:57get shut down,
34:58how will you react?
34:59You have to gather,
35:00everyone for yourself.
35:01Here,
35:02the business of lawyers,
35:03has to end.
35:04So,
35:05ultimately,
35:06lawyers have to stand up,
35:07for themselves.
35:08Judges have to stand up,
35:09for themselves.
35:10So,
35:11on one hand,
35:12you are already fighting,
35:13with PTI in Pakistan,
35:14with such a big,
35:15national,
35:16force,
35:17on one hand,
35:18you are fighting,
35:19on the other hand,
35:20you are fighting,
35:21with a very,
35:22organized force,
35:23of lawyers,
35:24who are,
35:25organized to the extent,
35:26of the education level.
35:27So,
35:28whoever has,
35:29given this advice,
35:30it is a disaster,
35:31if this reform,
35:32first of all,
35:33I am sure,
35:34it won't happen.
35:35If it happens,
35:36it will be,
35:37another crisis,
35:38which will continue,
35:39just like,
35:40the Iftikhar Chaudhary crisis.
35:41Thank you,
35:42both of you.
35:43We were talking,
35:44about the political crisis,
35:45we will go on break,
35:46but,
35:47we can't see,
35:48the people's party,
35:49we have outsourced everything,
35:50we will ask them,
35:51after the break.
35:52Stay with us.
35:53Welcome back,
35:54to the program,
35:55Mr. Khurram Dastgir Khan,
35:56senior politician,
35:57he is from PMLN,
35:58he is with us,
35:59thank you very much,
36:00Mr. Khurram,
36:01today,
36:02I was watching,
36:03that Irfan Siddiqui,
36:04did a very,
36:05aggressive,
36:06press conference,
36:07even before that,
36:08in the last three,
36:09four days of PMLN,
36:10when this detailed,
36:11judgement has come,
36:12there has been,
36:13a very consistent stance,
36:14that the decision,
36:15was not liked,
36:16there is no surprise,
36:17in this,
36:18but,
36:19the implementation,
36:20of this decision,
36:21is not going to happen,
36:22has this been decided,
36:23at the party level,
36:24you say,
36:25that the election commission,
36:26has to implement it,
36:27but,
36:28when the government,
36:29says that,
36:30this decision is not right,
36:31and such decisions,
36:32should not be accepted,
36:33so,
36:34at the government level,
36:35it has been decided,
36:36that this decision,
36:37will not be implemented.
36:38Sir,
36:39the wounds,
36:40that we started getting,
36:41seven years ago,
36:42when,
36:43when,
36:44in the entire,
36:45Panama case,
36:46there was no mention of,
36:47Akama,
36:48and the court,
36:49saw a dictionary,
36:50from the internet,
36:51and made this decision,
36:52and disqualified,
36:53Nawaz Sharif,
36:54as an unjust,
36:55and unjustified person,
36:56we have been saying,
36:57since then,
36:58it is not a matter of,
36:59liking or disliking,
37:00we have only,
37:01one demand,
37:02that,
37:03one,
37:04we all,
37:05wish,
37:06that we decide,
37:07according to,
37:08the judicial law,
37:09but,
37:10the second is,
37:11that,
37:12equal treatment,
37:13the constitution,
37:14says that,
37:15everyone is equal,
37:16so,
37:17equal treatment,
37:18we have,
37:19reservations,
37:20and this,
37:21SIC,
37:22decision,
37:23in recent years,
37:24in this century,
37:25this is the third decision,
37:26in which,
37:27the supreme court,
37:28has,
37:29by its own,
37:30powers,
37:31has,
37:32exceeded,
37:33and has granted,
37:34that which was not,
37:35in the decision,
37:36this was in 2000,
37:37in the Zafar Ali Shah case,
37:38when the supreme court,
37:39gave permission to,
37:40the Amir of that time,
37:41to amend the constitution,
37:42although,
37:43no such thing,
37:44was asked for,
37:45in the same way,
37:46I gave you,
37:47a reference of Panama,
37:48in which,
37:49there was no mention of,
37:50Akama,
37:51in the proceedings of,
37:528 months,
37:53there,
37:54it came to Akama,
37:55and in the same way,
37:56the SIC's judgment was,
37:57in which,
37:58the supreme court,
37:59by using,
38:00their own,
38:01thoughts,
38:02made a,
38:03air fort,
38:04and a parliamentary party,
38:05and then,
38:06forced its members,
38:07that,
38:08no,
38:09the decision you gave,
38:10the decision of,
38:11the monitoring judge,
38:12of Panama,
38:13was a very,
38:14unilateral decision,
38:15to make,
38:16they made it 8,
38:17instead of 1,
38:18so,
38:19we have,
38:20a lot of reservations,
38:21on that,
38:22that,
38:23it was not,
38:24the right decision.
38:25Absolutely,
38:26reservations,
38:27are always there,
38:28Khurram sir,
38:29in the 90's,
38:30the people's party,
38:31had a lot of reservations,
38:32regarding the courts of that time,
38:33the people's party is on record,
38:34the decision came against them,
38:35the decision,
38:36still,
38:37in Pakistan,
38:38in the past,
38:39the Prime Minister's house,
38:40was vacated,
38:41what has changed now,
38:42okay,
38:43there were grievances,
38:44you still had grievances,
38:45the problem is that,
38:46how will it be decided,
38:47that from now on,
38:48this decision,
38:49should not be implemented,
38:50then,
38:51a path will open,
38:52then,
38:53whoever wants,
38:54whoever has the power,
38:55in the government,
38:56will not implement the decision.
38:57No,
38:58this should not be decided,
38:59by anyone,
39:00the Supreme Court,
39:01from today,
39:0231 years ago,
39:03in the case of,
39:04Baaz Mohammad Kakar,
39:05in his judgement,
39:06it was written,
39:07that,
39:08when,
39:09the law,
39:10comes into the field,
39:11then,
39:12the law,
39:13is dependent,
39:14on the court's,
39:15interpretation,
39:16so,
39:17the real issue,
39:18is not that,
39:19the administration says,
39:20that we will not implement it,
39:21when,
39:22the parliament,
39:23has made a law,
39:24and decided,
39:25then,
39:26the law,
39:27will be dependent,
39:28on the interpretation,
39:29but sir,
39:30about this,
39:31the flip side,
39:32the second view,
39:33is that,
39:34the Supreme Court's,
39:35interpretation,
39:36the law,
39:37is made,
39:38by the parliament,
39:39the interpretation,
39:40is made,
39:41by the court,
39:42and as a result,
39:43the decisions,
39:44that are made,
39:45have to be accepted,
39:46I have not spoken to,
39:47any such legislator,
39:48in the last 72 hours,
39:49who says that,
39:50on the Supreme Court's,
39:51short order,
39:52you cannot implement it,
39:53even the Supreme Court,
39:54is not endorsing it,
39:55even once.
39:56See,
39:57but,
39:58either,
39:59the Supreme Court,
40:00then,
40:01why did they wait,
40:02for 74 days,
40:03in their detailed judgement?
40:04They did not know,
40:05the real way,
40:06was this,
40:07that they,
40:08immediately,
40:09issue their,
40:10detailed judgement,
40:11so that,
40:12we could then,
40:13file a review on it,
40:14so that,
40:15the procedure,
40:16that has to be done now,
40:17would have been done,
40:1874 days before today,
40:19and we would not have,
40:20done today's tension.
40:21So,
40:22the Supreme Court,
40:23not giving its,
40:24detailed judgement,
40:25for 74 days,
40:26has as many,
40:27serious questions,
40:28as,
40:29saying that,
40:30on the short order,
40:31there was no implementation,
40:32because that too,
40:33if we have to do,
40:34an interpretation,
40:35then that too,
40:36might have been,
40:37waiting for a better time,
40:38for that detailed judgement,
40:39to be issued.
40:40And,
40:41the way,
40:42the alarm,
40:43has rung,
40:44is this,
40:45that,
40:46last Saturday,
40:47the clarification,
40:48that was issued,
40:49by the court,
40:50and,
40:51the court,
40:52openly said,
40:53that,
40:54keeping the law,
40:55above all,
40:56the rules,
40:57the words,
40:58that were used,
40:59that is,
41:00these rules,
41:01we are not looking at them,
41:02we will go,
41:03de facto.
41:04So,
41:05in Pakistan,
41:06using the word,
41:07de facto,
41:08is the code word,
41:09of common sense.
41:10If you go,
41:11de facto,
41:12then using,
41:13de facto,
41:14in this country,
41:15for 45 years,
41:16there has been,
41:17common sense.
41:18Because,
41:19it was de facto.
41:20And,
41:21the court,
41:22not once,
41:23but,
41:24repeatedly,
41:25justified,
41:26that common sense.
41:27Right.
41:28So,
41:29earlier,
41:30you were saying,
41:31that,
41:32a detailed judgement,
41:33should be given,
41:34and,
41:35it should be,
41:36implemented,
41:37and,
41:38it should be,
41:39implemented,
41:40and,
41:41it should be,
41:42implemented,
41:43and,
41:44it should be,
41:45implemented,
41:46and,
41:47it should be,
41:48implemented,
41:49and,
41:50it should be,
41:51implemented,
41:52and,
41:53it should be,
41:54implemented,
41:55and,
41:56it should be,
41:57implemented,
41:58and,
41:59it should be,
42:00implemented,
42:01and,
42:02it should be,
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