"‘Everyone Except Terrorists and Their Facilitators Should Be Engaged in Dialogue’" Rana Sanaullah
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00:00I want to ask one last question about Balochistan, because you always say that they are terrorists.
00:07In your opinion, in the case of Balochistan, which team is needed to talk to?
00:14Leave aside the government and allies, the people on the other side, who are against you, who have clashed with you, everything is there.
00:20Is there any such person, any such group, with whom you think we should talk?
00:28Except for these terrorists, or their supporters, who do not object to these atrocities.
00:39Who are they, who can play a role?
00:43Whoever they are, there should be no discussion with them.
00:47With everyone else, the nationalists, who are against the constitution, against the law,
00:58who are with the constitution of Pakistan, who are under the constitution of Balochistan.
01:05Your government is not even talking to them.
01:08Mr. Rana, your government is not even talking to them, who are mainstream.
01:13Leave aside Maharang, even people like Akhtar Mengal have left you, who have been chief ministers there, who are in mainstream politics.
01:21I am asking you, is there anyone in Islamabad, with whom you think we should talk?
01:30Look, Akhtar Mengal has left, you have mentioned his name, I do not want to single out anyone else.
01:38We should talk to all of them, and if anyone has left, we should convince them.
01:44We have tried this before, and we are trying this today as well.
01:48They are our brothers, they accept the constitution of Pakistan, they believe in Pakistan.
01:53We should sit with them, we should talk to them.
01:56And these terrorists, who kill people by taking them off the buses, who martyr them,
02:02who stop the trains and make women homeless, we should not talk to them.
02:07They are not worthy of talking to them.
02:10Mr. Rana, thank you very much, thank you very much for giving us time as always.
02:14The audience has listened to what you have to say.
02:16I, with all due respect, seriously differ when Mr. Rana says that the details will come later.
02:23When a crisis is going on, people should see that their government is standing with them.
02:29There are three people in our Ministry of Internal Affairs.
02:32The Minister of Internal Affairs is himself, then there is Mr. Pravesh Khattak,
02:35now Mr. Shaitalal Chaudhary has also come, and everything else is there.
02:38Where are all the people?
02:39The Prime Minister talks about everything.
02:41Where are they trusting the nation on this?
02:43Where is the national security?
02:44There is a sense of urgency.
02:46It is not visible anywhere.
02:48And it seems that those four and a half hundred people who are stuck there,
02:51they have one hope that the army should come, they should be released,
02:54the law enforcement should come, the levies should come.
02:57Before I go into this, let me quickly share a figure with you.
03:00There is no policy at all in Balochistan.
03:02This is the problem.
03:03There is a category A and a category B.
03:06A category is the area in which the police manages, and B category is the levies.
03:11So the police does it anyway in Quetta.
03:14The rest, more than 90% of the area is of levies.
03:18Who are the levies?
03:19These are basically the levies of the chiefs.
03:21There are 83,000 people enrolled at the moment.
03:2483,000.
03:25Do you know what taxpayer money you get every year?
03:2892 billion rupees.
03:3092 billion rupees is the expense of these levies alone.
03:33And the chiefs have their nephews, nephews, the people of the village,
03:37the people of their community, they are full.
03:39One, a report was being made just now,
03:42in which it was seen that about 50 to 70% of the people are not on their duties.
03:46And the others are so ill-trained, ill-equipped,
03:50that when there is a fight, they get free.
03:52And the situation is that a motion was passed in January,
03:56adopted by the Assembly of Balochistan,
03:58in which there was a proposal to end the levies,
04:01and increase the police network, do everything.
04:04That was rejected.
04:06Because the people sitting in the assembly,
04:09they may be its beneficiaries too, because they are distributing jobs.
04:12Here you heard the talk, we don't see the government,
04:16the policy seems to be the same,
04:19okay, one incident has happened, this will also be fixed,
04:22we will know that 100 are saved, 100 will be martyred,
04:25they are common people, who cares?
04:27These things will continue to happen, we don't see the policy.
04:31Anyway, let's take a break.