PTI Should Resign if They Don’t Want to Join Parliament: Rana Sanaullah
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00:00The second last paragraph of your announcement is very interesting.
00:06I would like to ask you because it is very interesting.
00:09It says that the committee has agreed that no institution or individual or group working with the enemy forces
00:16will be allowed to damage the security and stability of Pakistan.
00:20The committee has expressed regret over the absence of some members of the opposition party
00:25and has promised that the process of consultation will continue.
00:28First of all, you say that the opposition has boycotted institutions or groups working with the enemy forces.
00:38Are you implying that the people who did not come today are terrorists?
00:44Are you implying that the PTI or other opposition parties did not come?
00:49Because this sentence could have been different.
00:51You have added this sentence to the announcement.
00:54Is this an innocent way?
00:56No, this sentence is added to the announcement.
01:04The reason for this is that after the Jaffar Express incident,
01:12if this is just a coincidence, then let's move ahead and see what happens next.
01:20The statements that were made by the Indian media,
01:28and the way they were showing that God knows what will happen in Pakistan,
01:35the social media wing of the political party was also saying the same thing.
01:45I was not able to understand whether the Indian media was endorsing them or they were endorsing them.
01:51So, Mr. Rana, tell us one thing.
01:53The situation of the PTI, the way it is,
02:01there is a need for further consideration.
02:05So, I should understand correctly that you have included the PTI and other opposition parties in this account.
02:15So, I should understand correctly that you have included them in this account.
02:18No, we do not include them in this account, but if they themselves fall into this account,
02:23then what solution do we have?
02:25You tell me, should they not have come today?
02:27They should have come today.
02:29Either they should have resigned from the Parliament,
02:35or they should have come to the Parliament to get facilities, funds,
02:43they would have reached everywhere to get their salaries, but why didn't they come today?
02:48So, you are saying that the big leader who is a member of the National Assembly,
02:57who did not come today, the PTI did not come, they are not concerned about the country.
03:06They are not concerned about the country at all, they are only concerned about themselves or their leader.
03:13So, Mr. Rana, I want to ask you a question.
03:15If there is Pakistan, then there is Pakistan. If there is no Khan, then there is no Pakistan.
03:19You may have missed my question.
03:22The PTI did not come, so if that was the case, then why did Nawaz Sharif not come?
03:27He was the Prime Minister three times, he is also the MNA.
03:30Then why did he not come to today's meeting?
03:34Look, for example, if the PTI or the opposition party had come,
03:41then it was not necessary that out of the 92 members,
03:46we would have said that 92 out of 92 should come.
03:49The ratio of all the parties…
03:52So, the Speaker did not call Mr. Nawaz Sharif?
03:55He is called a party committee.
03:56He did not call Mr. Nawaz Sharif?
03:57Three times Prime Minister, party leader, MNA, he did not call him?
04:01He did not invite Mr. Nawaz Sharif?
04:03The thing is that the number of party leadership that was formed,
04:09that so many people, that is, the number was decided,
04:13according to the number of people in the parliament,
04:18that 14 people will come, 20 people will come,
04:21Mr. Rana, Mr. Rana, one second, Mr. Rana, one second.
04:24Your entire party, your party's name is Nawaz League.
04:29He is your three-time Prime Minister.
04:31He is the head of your party.
04:33Was there anyone more important than him?
04:35Especially when this person is the Prime Minister himself,
04:38and during his time, he did all the operations, military operations,
04:42and you take credit that we did it.
04:44Shouldn't he have been in this meeting, which was on terrorism?
04:48Was there anyone more important than him in your party?
04:50No, listen, listen to me.
04:54The thing is that you say that Mr. Imran Khan should have been on behalf of PTA,
05:00someone else should have been on behalf of someone else.
05:02The thing is that when the PMLN government's representative is present there,
05:07then there is no point in this matter.
05:12Okay, tell me personally, in your opinion,
05:15personally, in your opinion, should he have been there?
05:21He should have contributed.
05:22No, look, there is no such thing in this that he should have been there.
05:30If he wanted to be there or if he was there, then it was okay,
05:35but if he is not there, then his party had a full representation.
05:40Chief Minister Punjab was present there.
05:42The Prime Minister was present there.
05:45The President of Punjab was present there.
05:48The other senior leaders of his party were present there.
05:51Okay, tell me one thing, you are criticizing,
05:54when you know, every time you say that the PTA people are looking for excuses to leave the meetings,
06:00they have already ended the negotiations,
06:02they told you to introduce us to the leaders,
06:05after that we will also join.
06:08If they had introduced us yesterday, then what mountain would have fallen?
06:11You are also stubborn, they should have introduced us.
06:13No, no, Mr. Malik, the matter is that when they were first told that,
06:20you should participate and according to the ratio set by the Speaker,
06:27you should give the names of 14 people.
06:29They gave the names of 14 people, they said that we are coming, there is no such thing.
06:34After that, I think it was around 11.30 or 12,
06:40they said that these three people should include our names.
06:45When the Speaker said that according to the ratio, this issue will be raised,
06:50others will be objected,
06:52so they put a lot of effort to include the names of three more people.
06:57So we were not even in doubt, they went somewhere.
07:00I think that when they took a walk,
07:02after that they thought that we did not want to go.
07:05So this was their very late decision,
07:07according to that nothing could have happened in the morning.
07:10This is the opinion of the PTA.
07:13No, Mr. Malik, you tell me,
07:15if they had come there and first objected to this,
07:20after that whatever their point of view was,
07:23whatever they wanted to do, they would have done it there,
07:26they would have kept their position there,
07:28so wasn't that better?
07:30No, I have repeatedly said this to Salman and Raja,
07:32I have said that you have wasted the opportunity,
07:34you have given an open field to the government to do whatever they want,
07:39this is what I argued with them,
07:41I said that you should have come,
07:43and you should not have left this.
07:46But Mr. Raja, the real thing is that everything has happened now,
07:50in the coming days,
07:52the Army Chief has also said that Pakistan should have a hard state,
07:57we will continue to sacrifice innocent lives for a soft state.
08:02Now in a hard state,
08:04military and economic powers,
08:07these two powers are considered a symbol of a hard state,
08:11and they think that a soft state is better than a hard state.
08:14So in that, democracy and democracy become secondary.
08:18Does Pakistan afford to become a hard state?
08:21What is the normal meaning of that?
08:24No, look, these terrorists,
08:30the kind of their activities,
08:35these soft targets,
08:38look, there is one thing,
08:40they attack military targets,
08:43now the training that they have done,
08:46the two or three things that have happened,
08:48Mr. Raja, thank you very much,
08:50time is up,
08:51I am sorry your answer could not be complete,
08:53thank you very much,
08:54let's take a break.