"Is PTI Founder’s Narrative Being Silenced? Government Member’s Statement
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00:00Let's start with you. What is the need for restrictions? They go. If there is to be a meeting or not, the decision has to be taken.
00:07What is the need for you to come out and have a political discussion?
00:11And if a person does not come out of Diyala to talk, he comes and talks in Islamabad, in Pressur.
00:17So, what is the qualitative difference? Either you don't do it there or you don't do it there.
00:22Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim. Mr. Malik, thank you very much.
00:25Look, the biggest thing in my opinion, I think the court also recognises and realises,
00:32the propaganda that is sold as a lie, that today Khan said this, today Khan ate this,
00:40today Khan did this, scolded him, insulted him, today Khan gave this political statement, and so on and so forth.
00:48Now, the thing is that my brother has also done many press conferences there.
00:53When he used to go there as a lawyer, he used to meet them.
00:57After that, I will take their guarantee that they will not talk beyond the black and white.
01:04But whatever you see, take it from the family members and start.
01:08And others, you are on all the tiers.
01:11Look, Salman Akram Raja is saying that there is no restriction on the family.
01:14No, I think that the meetings, it has not been said that if a lawyer goes and meets, then the lawyer cannot talk.
01:20It is across the board. Whoever goes in, then cannot come back.
01:25And outside Adiala, there is a propaganda, a lie, and beyond the black and white.
01:30Because he said, I will tell you what he tweeted,
01:33Outside Adiala Jail, it is necessary to have an immediate conversation,
01:36or to get rid of these meetings with Imran Khan, which could not be done since October.
01:39That basically we have compromised.
01:41The statements are not an immediate reaction.
01:43The Senate and the National Assembly are present.
01:45The press conference is somewhere, or a conversation on TV, everything is possible.
01:49We are not living in an exemplary environment.
01:51There is no restriction on the sisters.
01:53Look, there will be an order, there will be clarity in the order.
01:57And it is across the board that you will not press outside the premises of Adiala.
02:01Sitting on TV, every night, my brother is also applying medicine.
02:06If you are saying that you are selling fake churna,
02:11and it is spreading in the country,
02:13then what difference does it make from churna,
02:15if you are letting them sell in Islamabad, then let them sell at Adiala's gate.
02:19Or not sell there, or not sell there, if you want to sell, sell at both places.
02:23What difference will this 10 miles make? Why this?
02:26Look, there is a distinction in this, because it is a fresh work.
02:29He is standing outside the right meeting,
02:32and he is doing all those things there.
02:34Hot, hot, hot.
02:36So, I think we should avoid that hot, hot.
02:38We will sit on TV at night, and I am sure TV programs will be discussed again.
02:42The same topics will be discussed.
02:44The condition of the meeting will also be asked.
02:46I think there is no such thing in it.
02:48There are three or four tweets of Salman Akram Raja,
02:50it seems that he has made a very grudging compromise.
02:53He said, look, it is necessary to talk outside the Adiala jail,
02:56or his meetings with Imran Khan were not held in October.
02:59He has a lot of weight in that argument.
03:01If he has made this condition, then he has made it.
03:04A lot of people think that you people are scared these days.
03:07All the leadership is going to JIT.
03:09That day, Ilyama Khan also went,
03:11he has spent 4-5 hours there.
03:13Sometimes cars go there,
03:15even on Salman's road, and big people go there.
03:17Have you kept this?
03:19Is the revolution over?
03:21No, look.
03:23Instead of Ijtihad, the protest has started.
03:26No, the revolution was over when he was in leadership.
03:29Our workers have kept him alive.
03:31On 4th October, on 26th November,
03:33the workers came and led.
03:35Bushra Bibi, Banerjee, Shatimi, our workers.
03:38They could not show their leadership,
03:40leaving one or two exceptions.
03:42The issue is that it is a war of narratives.
03:45And you saw Imran Khan's narrative
03:47is always ahead of his political opponents.
03:50Whether he is in jail or outside,
03:52because I have also been the contributor.
03:55He said that we have to do this,
03:58so I have narrated it.
04:00So, his narrative,
04:02if it does not come out,
04:04then you will be in these communicators.
04:07So, this is important.
04:09The question you just raised,
04:11is this a general order?
04:15I have asked the court reporters.
04:17The court reporters have told me
04:19that this is a general order.
04:21Exceptions have not been created.
04:23Meaning, if exceptions have not been created,
04:25then whoever will meet me,
04:27or other friends,
04:29they will not be able to talk.
04:31So, if this is a general order,
04:33and the court has forgotten to mention
04:35that whoever will meet,
04:37they will not be able to come
04:39and have a political conversation.
04:41Then your circle will be in permanent silence.
04:44Then you will not be able to
04:46press in Islamabad.
04:48Is there such a plan?
04:50We have no such plan.
04:52Would you be surprised
04:54if the decision of the relationship is made?
04:56I don't think such a decision will be made.
04:58I think the pressure outside Adyala,
05:00which is misguided pressure,
05:02which hogs the TV screens,
05:04sometimes it is Aleema Sahiba,
05:06sometimes it is my brother,
05:08sometimes it is Salman Akram Rai,
05:10then X, Y, Z, whatever the leadership
05:12of the party is,
05:14they come and sell their own lies,
05:16and this is the most important thing.
05:18That day I passed by,
05:20Salman Akram Rai is standing,
05:22and Indizar Panjoda is standing,
05:24when he was doing his presser,
05:26he had his own alarming situation
05:28or expressions,
05:30that what is he doing,
05:32what is he talking about.
05:34That is your assumption.
05:36It is not an assumption,
05:38it can be seen,
05:40facial expressions.
05:42Tell me, why do you believe?
05:44Didn't this discussion take place?
05:46I think sometimes
05:48you have to do it spontaneously.
05:50Obviously Salman is a senior lawyer.
05:52What impact will it have
05:54if you come to Islamabad
05:56after 15 minutes?
05:58Sir, this is very confusing.
06:00I don't think that knowing
06:02your situation in the court,
06:04see this is a political case,
06:06these are not legal cases.
06:08That is why you saw
06:10that all the petitions
06:12went to the larger bench.
06:14Now if a blanket order comes
06:16to the larger bench,
06:18then it will be a very
06:20severe order.
06:22The narrative that comes
06:24on the social media,
06:26the tweets that Aleema Khan
06:28does, are in her own words.
06:30So in her own words,
06:32her expression,
06:34her statement,
06:36has an effect on the political
06:38workers, on the party.
06:40That effect will not be in
06:42anyone else's tweets or pressers.
06:44So what Aleema Khan does,
06:46it will be a serious blow.
06:48As far as I am concerned,
06:50in my personal opinion.
06:52Because she talks there,
06:54and then you see,
06:56there is a complete science behind it.
06:58Earlier it was the impression
07:00that your party has been choked.
07:02Now it is the impression that
07:04your narrative is being choked.
07:06See, what you said in the beginning,
07:08that is very important.
07:10Part and parcel.
07:12Death by a thousand cuts.
07:14Yes.
07:16You banned Imran Khan's
07:18picture, you banned his name,
07:20you banned his voice,
07:22one day the picture came out
07:24of the Supreme Court.
07:26Now if you ban his statement,
07:28then this is unacceptable.