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"Ham Opposition Main Thay, Hain Aur Rahenge Lekin.... Kamran Murtaza Blunt Stance
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- Senator Kamran Murtaza JUIF
- Muneeb Farooq (Analyst)
Hukumat Kay Mehngai Main kami Kay Daway | Ground Reality Kiya Hai ?
"Ham Opposition Main Thay, Hain Aur Rahenge Lekin.... Kamran Murtaza Blunt Stance
PML-N Always Failed to Address the Concerns of PPP..." Syed Hassan Murtaza's Statement
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maria Maimon with the program Sawali, today's top stories are
00:13Mahi Ramzan, people are still worried about inflation, what are the claims of the government,
00:17what is the ground reality, we will tell you in the first part of the program.
00:21After that, are the differences of People's Party and Noon League real or is it just a
00:25political posturing, we will talk about this in the second part of the program, finally,
00:29the government is stable, it seems like this, but why is it panicking, can there be a grand
00:33opposition alliance, can Maulana become a part of it, we will talk about this in the
00:37last part of the program.
00:39Let's start, Ramzan, many congratulations to all of you, this is the first fast, before
00:43this, people must have done shopping, their food basket, to what extent will it be affected
00:47by inflation, we will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:51The government's claims are different, the people's claims are different, governments
00:55always make political statements, they say that they are giving relief in comparison
00:59to the previous governments, this government is also saying the same, they say that there
01:03has been a reduction in inflation many times, in comparison to last Ramzan, the situation
01:07is much better this time, the Prime Minister himself is claiming this, let's listen to
01:11him.
01:21The
01:49government's claims are different, the people's claims are different, governments
01:53always make political statements, they say that there has been a reduction in inflation
01:57many times, in comparison to last Ramzan, the situation is much better this time, the
02:01people's claims are different, governments always make political statements, they say
02:05that there has been a reduction in inflation many times, in comparison to last Ramzan,
02:09the situation is much better this time, the people's claims are different, governments
02:13always make political statements, they say that there has been a reduction in inflation
02:17many times, in comparison to last Ramzan, the people's claims are different, governments
02:21always make political statements, they say that there has been a reduction in inflation
02:25many times, in comparison to last Ramzan, the situation is much better this time, the
02:29people's claims are different, governments always make political statements, they say
02:33that there has been a reduction in inflation many times, in comparison to last Ramzan,
02:37the situation is much better this time, the people's claims are different, governments
02:41always make political statements, they say that there has been a reduction in inflation
02:45the government is not able to control inflation, people will face more difficulties after Ramzan
02:54the government is making strange claims, there is no control over inflation, you can see
02:58sugar, gram flour, ghee, oil, everything has become expensive before Ramzan
03:06sugar has increased by Rs. 30, ghee by Rs. 50, dates by Rs. 600 per kg
03:16in Ramzan, we earn double, in fact, the rates of things have tripled, our management is
03:24sleeping, I don't think there will be any shortage
03:30government rates are increasing, you don't get things according to that, today you are
03:34getting chicken for Rs. 810 per kg, whereas the government rate is Rs. 500 per kg, so
03:40it is not going to be implemented, and the things you need in Ramzan, like sugar, flour,
03:47and other things, sugar has increased, and the things you need in Ramzan, like sugar, flour,
03:54and other things, sugar has increased, and the things you need in Ramzan, like sugar, flour,
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18:54The government is saying that things have become cheaper, but nothing has become cheaper.
18:59For example, tomatoes used to cost Rs. 60 per kg, but today they cost Rs. 200 per kg.
19:04For example, onions used to cost Rs. 160 per kg, but today they cost Rs. 200 per kg.
19:09This is our Ramzan, do you understand?
19:11In Ramzan, everything should be cheaper, everything becomes expensive.
19:14In Ramzan, things become expensive for the first couple of weeks.
19:18Has the government ever bought anything from those markets?
19:22It's not that the government has bought anything,
19:24the government doesn't buy anything, we poor people buy things.
19:27In Ramzan, the prices are not appropriate.
19:30For example, if you see, the fruit is stocked,
19:34and when you come to the market, you cut it,
19:37and when Ramzan is over, you start throwing it away.
19:41In the market, even now, you see, a normal apple,
19:45the juice one, is being sold for Rs. 250-300 per kg.
19:48But there is a difference.
19:50If the government gives anything cheap,
19:53they should tell us, the poor people.
19:55The poor people's children yearn for Malta.
19:58Malta, the poor people can't feed their children.
20:01Rs. 350-400 per kg is that.
20:03On the other hand, our Muslim brothers, the merchants,
20:06they have very sharp and long knives.
20:09They will take out the wheat, the dates,
20:13these are the main things for the poor people.
20:15They will get vegetables every day.
20:17I request the Minister of Finance,
20:20to take a notice of such things,
20:23and keep the arrangements in place,
20:25so that the poor people can get a better life.
20:28In Ramzan, before inflation, the government's claims
20:31and the problems of the people are seen opposite to each other.
20:34The question is, how does the government deal with this inflation?
20:37For Program Sawaal, I am Zainab Ali, ARY News, Islamabad.
20:43You heard the opinions of the people,
20:45you saw the claims of the government.
20:47The truth is that a lot of people,
20:49who were able to afford food last year,
20:52they have taken those things out of their food baskets.
20:55People have stopped themselves from eating and drinking different things.
20:59And they are now explaining to their children
21:01that we cannot eat these things, we cannot afford them.
21:04The large population of this country,
21:07is badly affected by inflation,
21:10and even the middle class has stopped this time.
21:12When we return after the break,
21:14we will talk about the PML and the People's Party.
21:17Is there any weight behind this?
21:20Or is it just a political posturing?
21:22Stay with us after the break.
21:28Welcome back.
21:29Pakistan, People's Party and Musab-e-Nawaz
21:31have been enemies for decades.
21:34Now, both are in the government in a way,
21:37because without the vote of the People's Party,
21:40the existence and survival of the current government is not possible.
21:43But still, in between, we see that
21:45the old, traditional mindset of Harif comes to the fore.
21:49The People's Party, especially in Punjab,
21:51keeps complaining about the space.
21:54Last week, Sadr Zardari went to Punjab,
21:56sat there and heard the grievances of his party.
21:58Today, even after activating the core committee,
22:01the news is coming out that the space in Punjab,
22:04the People's Party which is not asked about in the important decisions,
22:08they are not trusted,
22:10so that committee will be activated again.
22:13What has the People's Party been saying about this?
22:16Whether it is the accusation of Form 47,
22:18or the accusation of not making space in Punjab.
22:20There has been a lot of serious statements.
22:22Listen to this.
22:24The People's Party is facing a lot of problems,
22:27especially in Punjab,
22:29where even today, the people's party representatives
22:33are not being given the space
22:36which was committed by the non-league.
22:39The People's Party is not satisfied right now.
22:41Commitments have been made.
22:42We think that the 70 votes of the People's Party
22:45in the National Assembly,
22:47they did not make Shahbaz Sharif the Prime Minister
22:49because he has forgotten Sindh.
22:51It is just a matter of 5 minutes to bring this government down.
22:53For the first time in Pakistan,
22:55a minority government is running the country.
22:59But if it goes to the point
23:01where we do not feel that our voice is being heard,
23:08then of course, all our options are open.
23:11In the program, Mr. Saeed Hassan Murtaza is present with us.
23:14RMI, Pakistan People's Party.
23:15Thank you very much for joining us, Mr. Hassan.
23:17The first question is that
23:19President Zardari had also come a few days ago.
23:22What were the commitments of the government
23:25that were not fulfilled in your opinion?
23:27What are the decisions
23:29in which you were not taken in confidence?
23:31What is your dissatisfaction?
23:32Thank you very much.
23:37This is a very long discussion
23:41and it has been going on for a long time.
23:45And at different times,
23:47we have presented different things.
23:50Whether it is PMLN or People's Party,
23:53when there is a coalition of any government
23:57and they are sitting in an alliance,
24:00then certainly some things are decided in it
24:05on the basis of which that alliance stands.
24:10A lot of things were decided in the Pakistan People's Party
24:12and the Noon League,
24:14in which there was development,
24:16in which the method of running other governmental affairs was decided.
24:23But we do not know if PMLN has any reservations.
24:32But the reservations of the People's Party
24:35have always failed to remove them.
24:37And we believe that it is not a failure,
24:39but they have not tried at all
24:41and are neglecting those things
24:44in which our biggest issue is of development.
24:48That is our right,
24:50we are taxpayers and we are their allies.
24:53If no one has it, then it is fine.
24:57And if a community is giving funds to its MPAs, MNAs, Notables,
25:03its runner-ups, its ticket holders,
25:07then it should work on the schemes
25:11identified by its allies.
25:15Then there should be a vibe from the government
25:20that we are their allies.
25:23That does not come.
25:25It is not visible anywhere.
25:27When you say there should be a vibe,
25:29then please explain the political vibes
25:31that do not match.
25:33Look, some legislation is being made.
25:41We should be on board in that.
25:44We have to take such big steps.
25:46Tomorrow we have to fight elections
25:48against each other.
25:50When we have to be in the elections,
25:52then they have to say that
25:54they were our allies.
25:56We are your allies.
25:58We are standing with you in good and bad.
26:01We are ready to be responsible
26:03for its negative and positive results.
26:06But we should know
26:08what you are doing and why you are doing it.
26:10What is the need for it?
26:13You are imposing such a big tax
26:17on the farmers of Punjab.
26:19You don't even ask us.
26:21Tomorrow you will put the responsibility on us.
26:23The reason for this is that
26:25the legislation that is being made
26:27in Wifaq and in Punjab,
26:29you do not consult them.
26:31But still you put your part in it.
26:34Whether it is the 26th amendment,
26:36or the law that was made in Punjab
26:38regarding the media,
26:40you did not support it.
26:42You did not support it verbally.
26:44But you did not support
26:46their decisions.
26:48We supported it.
26:50If you look at it,
26:52the things that we supported,
26:54we also own those things
26:56that we supported.
26:58You said that we did not pass
27:00any law against the media.
27:02There is no PICA Act
27:04that is against the media.
27:06There are people who lie.
27:08It is not against the media.
27:10It is against those who lie.
27:12You are taking it on yourself.
27:14Even if a politician lies,
27:16in front of the media,
27:18it is also applicable to him.
27:20It is not just that
27:22he is a liar.
27:24I do not expect my media
27:26to support a liar.
27:28Okay, Mr. Hassan.
27:30More or less,
27:32all the big laws,
27:34it is absolutely right
27:36that there should be
27:38legislation,
27:40implementation,
27:42enforcement,
27:44there should not be
27:46pick-and-choose.
27:48But the government's
27:50big decisions,
27:52they have their
27:54justification.
27:56If there are so many
27:58grievances,
28:00then we do not see
28:02any complaints.
28:04I have told you that
28:06there is a tax on agriculture.
28:08The Pakistan People's Party
28:10is deeply concerned about it in Punjab.
28:12It should not be imposed.
28:14It is a cruel tax.
28:16We opposed it.
28:18We did not vote.
28:20The Pakistan People's Party
28:22did not take part in it.
28:24If you ask me one by one,
28:26I will give you
28:28every answer.
28:30If you say that you do it,
28:32it is the decision of the
28:34public interest.
28:36We believe in it.
28:38Whatever they do wrong,
28:40we say that you are doing it wrong.
28:42What is the compulsion
28:44of this union?
28:46I was watching the statement
28:48of President Zardari.
28:50If you have made a committee,
28:52what will happen next?
28:54It is a very relevant
28:56question.
28:58Then why are you sitting?
29:00We are sitting
29:02because there is a big
29:04upheaval in this country.
29:06The politics of upheaval
29:08has been going on
29:10for the past few years.
29:12The Pakistan People's Party
29:14never wants to
29:16save its community
29:18and hand over
29:20the country to the upheaval.
29:22Today,
29:24the government
29:26that we are a part of,
29:28after the election of 2024,
29:30we told the single largest
29:32party to form a government
29:34and we will not become
29:36a part of the government.
29:38We will vote for you.
29:40So this is the confidence
29:42that PMLN also knows
29:44that you are also politically
29:46obligated to each other.
29:48Maybe that is why
29:50the government is taking you
29:52for granted.
29:54No.
29:56Taking you for granted
29:58is a different thing.
30:00And to think that the Pakistan People's Party
30:02can't do anything.
30:04The Pakistan People's Party
30:06can do much better politics in this country
30:08and we have always done it.
30:10We have proven that whenever
30:12this country has been harmed,
30:14the Pakistan People's Party
30:16has given its political sacrifice
30:18to strengthen Pakistan,
30:20to strengthen the state of Pakistan,
30:22to stand with the people of Pakistan.
30:24If they take you for granted
30:26today,
30:28then it is their mistake.
30:30They will pay for it.
30:32Today,
30:34where Tehreek-e-Insaf
30:36is standing,
30:38PMLN was also there.
30:40We also advised them
30:42not to do
30:44this kind of politics
30:46that you have been doing.
30:48We are still telling them not to do it.
30:50Thank you very much.
30:52The Pakistan People's Party was with us.
30:54We will go on break.
30:56When we come back,
30:58Maulana Fazl Rahman's character
31:00is changing.
31:02We will talk on the break.
31:04Stay with us.
31:06Welcome back.
31:08Since the month of Ramadan has started,
31:10politics will cool down a bit.
31:12There is also a go-slow policy.
31:14Tehreek-e-Insaf says
31:16that after Eid,
31:18they will warm up the political arena again.
31:20Tehreek-e-Insaf has an opposition alliance
31:22in which they want Maulana Fazl Rahman to join.
31:24But Maulana Fazl Rahman has some reservations.
31:26With Tehreek-e-Insaf,
31:28the TORs between them are not being decided.
31:30On the other hand,
31:32the government's strategy is
31:34that since PTI and Jamiat-ul-Islam
31:36are so far apart,
31:38and Maulana Fazl Rahman has
31:40been with the PPLP,
31:42then there is no chance
31:44that Maulana Fazl Rahman will join the opposition.
31:46More or less, this is his strategy.
31:48The PM met with Maulana Fazl Rahman
31:50but it was just a formal meeting.
31:52The government doesn't seem to be
31:54enthusiastic enough to engage
31:56Maulana Fazl Rahman.
31:58If there is no Maulana Fazl Rahman
32:00in a joint alliance,
32:02will it be strong enough?
32:04The alliance has its own strategies.
32:06Shahid Khan Abbasi says
32:08that if there is a movement on the streets,
32:10he is not ready for it.
32:12Do these people have the same
32:14stance on street movement?
32:16Do they have the same stance on
32:18Pakistan's justice system?
32:20There are a lot of issues
32:22that they don't have a consensus on.
32:24We will talk about this in the program.
32:26Senator Kamran Murtaza is with us.
32:28Jamiat-ul-Islam Faik is with us.
32:30Muneeb Farooq is with us.
32:32Thank you both.
32:34Kamran Murtaza, let's start with you.
32:36As far as Maulana Fazl Rahman is concerned,
32:38we have seen that there is no agreement
32:40to that extent.
32:42Did you participate in the opposition's
32:44protest?
32:46Or will Maulana Fazl Rahman
32:48also participate in the protest?
32:54Maulana Fazl Rahman is in Medina.
32:56We are not disturbing him.
32:58He is expected to come back
33:00after his Umrah.
33:02He is expected to come back
33:04by 8pm.
33:06After that,
33:08we will take a look at the situation.
33:10Whatever the decision is,
33:12we have called for a meeting
33:14on 20th April.
33:16There will be a meeting
33:18between Shura and Amla.
33:20All these issues will be discussed
33:22in front of Shura
33:24and then
33:26Shura and then Amla.
33:28These two or three parties
33:30will decide.
33:32In the meantime,
33:34whatever the developments
33:36will be,
33:38whatever will be said by PTI
33:40will be said by PTI.
33:42Maulana Fazl Rahman will come
33:44and take a look at the situation.
33:46You said 20th April.
33:48This is a long time.
33:50Almost two months.
33:52Did you participate in the meeting?
33:54Was there any disagreement?
33:56Are you leaning more towards
33:58the opposition?
34:02Take it this way.
34:04Rephrase it.
34:06We were in the opposition
34:08and we will remain in the opposition.
34:10But we do not know
34:12if we will be in an alliance.
34:14And the way the Prime Minister
34:16contacted you,
34:18he did not understand.
34:20He did not understand.
34:22It is not possible.
34:24He is not up to the task.
34:26Muneeb sahib,
34:28the situation is that
34:30Maulana Fazl Rahman's position
34:32is very interesting
34:34and important.
34:36If Maulana Fazl Rahman
34:38joins the opposition,
34:40he will be considered
34:42a strong opposition.
34:44What opportunities do you see?
34:46First of all, the opposition
34:48itself is not clear.
34:50They say that after Eid,
34:52they will sit and decide.
34:54What do you think about
34:56Maulana Fazl Rahman?
34:58How much time can he give
35:00to this government?
35:02Thank you very much.
35:04As Kamran Murtaza
35:06was saying,
35:08the issue is that
35:10it is true,
35:12if I take it as a journalist,
35:14that there is a distance
35:16between Maulana Fazl Rahman
35:18and this government.
35:20There are meetings,
35:22there are talks,
35:24but Maulana Fazl Rahman
35:26has very genuine concerns
35:28and differences with this
35:30government and the way
35:32they are doing things.
35:34But the fundamental difference
35:36is in the position
35:38of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf
35:40and that of
35:42Maulana Fazl Rahman.
35:44Maulana Fazl Rahman has said
35:46and his position is
35:48that in the elections
35:50throughout the country,
35:52there was a dispute
35:54and everyone had to win
35:56by force.
35:58In Tehrik-e-Insaf,
36:00there was a dispute,
36:02but in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
36:04there was a good mandate.
36:06So, there is a difference here.
36:08Secondly, whatever you do,
36:10there has been a bad blood
36:12between PTI and Maulana Fazl Rahman.
36:14Now, how much of a bridge
36:16is there or not,
36:18there are a lot of things
36:20that Maulana Fazl Rahman's
36:22group may not have said
36:24themselves,
36:26but like Kamran Murtaza
36:28there are a lot of things
36:30that Tehrik-e-Insaf has to answer.
36:32And Tehrik-e-Insaf has to
36:34give clarity.
36:36I think that
36:38there is a factor
36:40of unpredictability.
36:42In relation to Tehrik-e-Insaf,
36:44that is also a thing
36:46that Maulana Fazl Rahman
36:48before going there
36:50or before putting his political weight
36:52on that page,
36:54will think a hundred times.
36:56The unity of the government
36:58and the opposition,
37:00may exist on a paper
37:02in a different form,
37:04but practically
37:06this unity does not exist anywhere.
37:08This means that the government
37:10is comfortable with Tehrik-e-Insaf
37:12and the unity of the opposition.
37:14At present, there is no difficult
37:16or tough time.
37:18See, the government
37:20is comfortable
37:22and there are a couple of reasons
37:24See, the way this system
37:26has been created
37:28in the last one or two years,
37:30it was a hybrid regime
37:32of Imran Khan, then came PDM
37:34which was a hybrid pro,
37:36and now it is an advanced form.
37:38This system has not only
37:40created itself,
37:42but also strengthened itself.
37:44I use the word
37:46insulated on purpose.
37:48When this system has been strengthened
37:50and insulated,
37:52it is also putting pressure
37:54on the irritants
37:56in front of this system.
37:58It is addressing them
38:00in different ways.
38:02Therefore, this system
38:04is moving forward
38:06with its full power
38:08and strength.
38:10Mr. Kamran,
38:12this system, as Mr. Muneeb
38:14is saying, not only did it
38:16strengthen the grip,
38:18but also insulated
38:20on a lot of things.
38:22So, the opposition
38:24could not even sit down
38:26or talk,
38:28neither could they meet
38:30nor could they stop the way.
38:32Do you think that the Grand Opposition
38:34can play a political role
38:36as we speak?
38:38Absolutely,
38:40it can.
38:42See, in the past,
38:44it has been like this
38:46that one party
38:48tries to bring down
38:50the other party
38:52because of some system.
38:54So, the real thing is
38:56that the party has to
38:58address these things.
39:00If these things are addressed,
39:02then things may get better.
39:04And if it is just
39:06a game of
39:08bringing one party
39:10to power
39:12and the other party
39:14to stay on the road
39:16then the opposition
39:18will be able to
39:20bring down the other party.
39:22In this way,
39:24the situation will keep getting worse
39:26and the situation of Pakistan
39:28will not be good.
39:30If the parties are ready
39:32to address this,
39:34then the situation
39:36of Pakistan will get better.
39:38But, now,
39:40do you think that
39:42this political struggle
39:44has changed?
39:46There is a wide
39:48integration of
39:50political parties
39:52but the technicalities
39:54are still different.
39:56See, I know
39:58that there are 11
40:00political parties.
40:02A lot of parties
40:04get together and
40:06their weight increases.
40:08But, does that increase
40:10the bargaining position
40:12of the opposition?
40:14At this time,
40:16we have to decide
40:18on these things.
40:20And the day it is decided,
40:22things will get better.
40:24Mr. Muneeb, you said that
40:26the government was formed
40:28and insulated within a year.
40:30These are small things
40:32that we can see
40:34that there is some problem.
40:36If the opposition
40:38wants to hold a conference
40:40but the government
40:42doesn't allow it,
40:44then the government
40:46also interfered in their show.
40:48Why is there so much
40:50problem in the government?
40:52I don't know
40:54what to say about the government.
40:56Many friends of the government
40:58might not even know
41:00what is happening.
41:02But, I will say that
41:04the most relevant factor
41:06is overkill.
41:08A lot of things are not needed.
41:10In fact, you can see
41:12from Einstein that
41:14everything could have been done
41:16without overkill.
41:18I am a weak person
41:20and I would like to say
41:22that it doesn't matter
41:24what a journalist says.
41:26If they are sitting
41:28somewhere and talking,
41:30it doesn't matter
41:32whether they are an owner
41:34or an offeror.
41:36I think that
41:38some things are
41:40counterproductive.
41:42They are in the category
41:44of overkill.
41:46I think that
41:48there was no need
41:50for the opposition
41:52to interfere in the conference.
41:54These things happen
41:56in the talk shows
41:58and it doesn't matter.
42:00But, I think that
42:02collective thinking
42:04should not be allowed
42:06and there is a risk
42:08of it spreading.
42:10I can see a reasoning behind it.
42:12Although, I do not agree
42:14with all these things
42:16because I think that
42:18when you particularize
42:20a lot of things
42:22or clamp down
42:24on them,
42:26their importance increases for no reason.
42:28Whether it is someone's opinion
42:30or a journalist's statement
42:32or an opposition conference.
42:34Mr. Kaman,
42:36your colleagues
42:38have reached out
42:40to you
42:42regarding the internal
42:44structuring of Tariq-e-Insaf.
42:46For example,
42:48the presence of
42:50Wazir-e-Ala K.P. and Gandapur.
42:52Are these also your reservations
42:54regarding their internal
42:56structuring?
42:58It is possible
43:00that we may or may not
43:02like them.
43:04But, it is their internal matter.
43:06Who are we to say
43:08whether or not
43:10Mr. Gandapur should be there?
43:12Our liking and disliking
43:14is always there
43:16with people.
43:18Especially, when there is
43:20a clash of interests,
43:22these things increase.
43:24But, still, as a principle,
43:26it is not our right
43:28to say whether or not
43:30Mr. Gandapur should be there.
43:32It is their internal matter.
43:34If there is a possibility
43:36of forming an alliance,
43:38would you like to lead
43:40such an alliance?
43:42Would you like to see
43:44such an opportunity?
43:46We have not made
43:48such a demand.
43:50The media has
43:52left this feeler.
43:54It has been repeated
43:56many times.
43:58But, there is one more thing.
44:00We have 8 seats in the National Assembly
44:02and 5 seats in the Senate.
44:04Would it suit us
44:06to lead such an alliance?
44:08If we assume
44:10that this has come
44:12from you.
44:14You must be thinking
44:16whether it is in our interest
44:18or not.
44:20Will we be hijacked?
44:22If Maulana leads
44:24the majority,
44:26we have not
44:28made such a demand.
44:30It has come from you
44:32and the media.
44:34We have thought
44:36whether it would suit us
44:38to lead such an alliance.
44:40I think he has made
44:42this question after the PDM.
44:44Was your experience
44:46not good?
44:48Are you cautious?
44:50You can call it a bitter experience.
44:52We have come from 15 to 8.
44:54We do not want to go from 8 to 4.