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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Senator Irfan Siddiqui PMLN
- Sahibzada Hamid Raza SIC
Federal cabinet approves 188% salary hike for ministers - Irfan Siddiqui's Reaction
Terrorism in Pakistan - Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi Kahan Hen???
Kya Govt Koi Naya Operation Karnay Jarahi Hai? - Irfan Siddiqui's Big Statement
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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Senator Irfan Siddiqui PMLN
- Sahibzada Hamid Raza SIC
Federal cabinet approves 188% salary hike for ministers - Irfan Siddiqui's Reaction
Terrorism in Pakistan - Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi Kahan Hen???
Kya Govt Koi Naya Operation Karnay Jarahi Hai? - Irfan Siddiqui's Big Statement
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:10We are with you with the programme, Huwa Nika Nisar.
00:12On one hand, there is a political upheaval.
00:14On the other hand, what is going to happen after Eid?
00:16There have been a lot of speculations about this.
00:18There are speculations about whether Pakistan will go into a protest mode.
00:21And if it goes into a protest mode, then what will be the reaction of the government?
00:24But the matter does not stop here.
00:26If the people of the house start fighting each other, whether it is the government or the opposition,
00:31then the third party gets the chance to take advantage of it.
00:36And the terrorism that has increased in Pakistan,
00:39the third party, which is certainly the one that funds all the terrorist activities,
00:46is taking full advantage at this time.
00:48Therefore, at this time, it was necessary that everyone sit together in relation to national security.
00:52But along with this, it was also necessary that the government immediately reached out to all political parties,
00:57including Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, and talked about this matter.
01:01Whether someone comes to the National Security Committee or not.
01:04But this did not happen.
01:06But something else is happening.
01:08This means that there is a need for unity in the affairs of the country.
01:12There is no unity there.
01:14But unity can be seen elsewhere.
01:16There is unity in increasing the salaries of the assembly in Punjab.
01:21There is unity in increasing the salaries of the parliamentarians here.
01:25On the other hand, if there is some confusion among the unions,
01:30then that confusion ends when it comes to increasing the salaries of the members of the cabinet.
01:35Salaries have been increased by 188%.
01:38And now the salaries of the ministers of the cabinet have reached 5,19,000.
01:43Now the situation is that on the one hand, the government does not have enough fiscal space
01:48to somehow reduce the tax that is being paid to the people and the working class.
01:55But there is definitely a fiscal space to increase their salaries.
01:58Irfan Siddiqui is with us.
02:00Senator Irfan Siddiqui is the senior leader of PMLN.
02:02He is very close to Nawaz Sharif.
02:04Thank you very much, Mr. Asad.
02:05You joined us, Mr. Asad.
02:06At this time, for the sake of image, is it right to increase the salaries?
02:13Do the ministers, who have fought elections worth lakhs and crores, really need to increase their salaries?
02:20These are not such stormy salaries.
02:25Now you are saying that their salaries have reached 5,9,000 or 5,19,000.
02:30So you should also see how much their tax is being deducted from this.
02:34You will be surprised that their salaries have increased.
02:39Every year, you know that the salaries of employees increase.
02:42If someone's salary is 2 lakhs, then it becomes 2.5 lakhs.
02:45If it is 2.5 lakhs, then it becomes 3 lakhs.
02:47If it is 1 lakh, then it becomes 1.5 lakhs.
02:49Their salaries do not increase.
02:50Their salaries, which were set 10 years ago, have been set.
02:54So now if they are not brought at par, but somehow brought in balance,
03:01then it is not like we have put such a heavy burden on the national treasury,
03:09that the treasury will not be able to tolerate it.
03:12These people also come.
03:14None of them get their electricity bills from the government.
03:18They all pay their electricity bills, gas bills, house rent, travel long distances.
03:25They do all these things.
03:26So if we get so much relief for them,
03:30then I don't think it is such a matter that we are very valuable.
03:34I don't have that much value.
03:36But your valuable time depends on it.
03:38Irfan sir, it is more valuable for me because if a government says that
03:42we will act according to the rules of business,
03:46but if a government says that we will act according to the rules of austerity,
03:53we will take austerity measures, then the question arises here.
03:56Secondly, the long-distance travelling is paid.
04:02Tickets, TADA, they also get.
04:04The rest of the people also get.
04:05This is just a matter of payment.
04:07They get it.
04:09Yes, yes, there are parliament lodges.
04:13We pay their electricity bills, gas bills, house rent.
04:21It is not that you get free accommodation.
04:24Anyhow, coming to the point,
04:27as far as austerity is concerned,
04:30you can calculate how much government expenditure was last year or the year before that.
04:38How much has come now?
04:40Has it increased a lot?
04:41Has it decreased?
04:42Is it the same?
04:43Then a fatwa can be given.
04:45I do not think that the increase in government expenditure will make a big difference in the overall situation of austerity.
04:56Mr. Sharfaz, is the minister taking salary?
04:58Because at that time, when the government came, it was said that
05:01it was not going to make a big difference in the government treasury,
05:04but if something seems to be happening, then the people get courage.
05:08At that time, it was said that the minister would not be paid.
05:11I do not know.
05:12You do not know?
05:13I do not know.
05:15So, even at that time, it was a visual thing?
05:18Yes, Mr. Irfan.
05:19How much salary is being taken, or how much is not being taken, or how much is still not being taken.
05:24When this matter came to the Senate,
05:27the salaries of the senators are still the same as they were years ago.
05:30But when this matter came there,
05:32the chairman had given a ruling that
05:34those who want to take salary, they should take it,
05:36and those who do not want to take it,
05:38they should write and give that I will work on the old salary,
05:40or I will not take it seriously.
05:42So, this option is there.
05:44Some ministers may not be taking it.
05:46I know about the Prime Minister that he is not taking it,
05:49and I also know that his daily expenses are not government expenses.
05:54He pays from his own pocket.
05:56I do not know about the rest of the ministers.
05:58So, basically, that was also an image building, right, Mr. Irfan,
06:01that the ministers will not take salaries.
06:03So, this is also not necessary for image building?
06:05Yes, see, if those salaries…
06:07Anika, where should we go now?
06:10If we do not take salaries,
06:12then we invent an image building,
06:14a method or a method
06:16on which you criticize.
06:18If we take salaries,
06:20then we come to another issue.
06:22Tell us a way
06:24on which you do not raise your eyes at all
06:26and you say that yes, you are right.
06:28By the way, Mr. Irfan,
06:30I appreciate the matter of those who do not take salaries.
06:33So, if we go on that path,
06:35there is only praise.
06:37But, actually, the problem is…
06:39Yes.
06:41I do not understand
06:45which is such a department,
06:48which is such a professional activity
06:51and where in the world is it that
06:53the parliamentarians do not take salaries
06:55or they should not take them
06:57or the salaries of the ministers should be very minor,
06:59should be very less, should be a bad name.
07:01One day, do a comparison.
07:03In your neighborhood,
07:05how many salaries are there in India?
07:07If you go beyond that,
07:09how many salaries are there in Britain?
07:11How many salaries are there in America?
07:13Which department in the world
07:15where salaries are not taken
07:17and not taking salaries
07:19is considered a great honor?
07:21Mr. Irfan, you are correct.
07:23You are correct.
07:25We should do a comparison.
07:27But, before the salaries,
07:29I will do a comparison
07:31on their exports,
07:33and how much is the salary
07:35of a common man there.
07:37I would firstly like to compare that
07:39and then I will do a comparison on these salaries.
07:41Mr. Irfan,
07:43the government can start an operation
07:45to end terrorism.
07:47Your statement
07:49became the adornment of the news.
07:51Yesterday, Mr. Rana Sanawalla said
07:53that there is no need for a new operation.
07:55We are already in a state of war.
07:57And because we are in a state of war,
07:59there is no need for a new operation.
08:01So, what is the difference
08:03between these statements?
08:05Can you explain this?
08:07I think there is
08:09no difference.
08:11I have seen his statement.
08:13He is a political expert.
08:15His statement
08:17and my statement
08:19have no difference.
08:21We are saying that
08:23there is no need for a new operation.
08:25I have said this to a television channel
08:27that there is no need for a new operation
08:29because
08:31there is no military operation
08:33happening anywhere.
08:35I have also said that
08:37if there is a need for a new operation,
08:39if there is a big storm of terrorism
08:41and we need a short or a long operation,
08:43then there is no restriction on that.
08:45Whenever there is a need,
08:47the government can
08:49carry out such an operation.
08:51It does not mean that
08:53we are giving an affidavit
08:55that there will never be an operation.
08:57If there is a need for a new operation,
08:59then there will be an operation.
09:01As for now,
09:03there is no operation.
09:05Okay.
09:07So, do you feel that
09:09this operation is inevitable?
09:11Do you feel that
09:13it will happen in the near future?
09:15Look,
09:17the kind of incident
09:19that has happened in Bolan,
09:21the Jaffar Express incident,
09:23which has been condemned
09:25by the whole world,
09:27the United Nations Security Council,
09:29no one has associated it
09:31with human rights,
09:33no one has called it a war of nationalism,
09:35everyone has called it terrorism.
09:37So, such terrorism,
09:39which takes 400-500 innocent lives
09:41under its control,
09:43kidnaps them,
09:45puts their lives in danger,
09:47creates a big challenge,
09:49our young people are martyred,
09:51ordinary citizens are martyred.
09:53So, we will have to see
09:55the consequences of this.
09:57If such incidents happen,
09:59then the operation will be inevitable.
10:01I want to make it clear
10:03that no state,
10:05even the Chief Minister
10:07said in our conference
10:09on 18th March
10:11that we should face
10:13this as a hard state.
10:15So, the hard state means
10:17that we should not
10:19consider these terrorists
10:21as a soft state
10:23where we will keep on
10:25attacking,
10:27taking lives,
10:29martyring soldiers,
10:31and no one will shake hands with us,
10:33no one will talk to us,
10:35so this will not happen.
10:37Whenever there is a need for an operation,
10:39which you say is inevitable,
10:41whether I can see it or not,
10:43I think we are capable
10:45of handling the current situation
10:47without any major operation.
10:49But whenever there is a need,
10:51it will happen.
10:53But for this,
10:55there will be a need
10:57for national consensus.
10:59And for national consensus,
11:01there will be national consensus
11:03in the government.
11:05It will be necessary
11:07to sit with the opposition.
11:09In such a situation,
11:11if we look at it
11:13from the standpoint
11:15of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
11:17if there is a need
11:19for a new operation,
11:21can there be a collective action?
11:25It is a very good thing
11:27if there is a national consensus.
11:29As it happened
11:31after the 2014 APS,
11:33all the parties were present
11:35and a national action plan
11:37was prepared.
11:39How much action was done on it
11:41is a different story.
11:43But even now,
11:45if a party
11:47becomes an obstacle
11:49in the path of consensus
11:51and is not ready
11:53to sit with other parties
11:55on this national issue,
11:57will it be better
11:59to end terrorism
12:01and start an operation
12:03or will it be better
12:05to remain
12:07on national consensus?
12:09Will we continue
12:11to look for consensus
12:13and respond to it?
12:15I think that
12:17the conference on 18th March
12:19had a lot of consensus.
12:21Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
12:23a very influential opposition
12:25party was present.
12:27All the other parties
12:29were present.
12:31Even I was present
12:33at that conference.
12:35I don't know
12:37if anyone
12:39openly said
12:41that we should
12:43talk about it
12:45at any cost.
12:47Or if anyone
12:49said anything
12:51about the declaration.
12:53I have heard
12:55that there were
12:57some disagreements.
12:59Irfan sir, I am sorry
13:01I am cutting you short.
13:03In my program,
13:05PTI said that
13:07it was not a joint declaration
13:09of the biggest party
13:11of the opposition.
13:13Adding to that,
13:15did Ali Amin Gandapur
13:17develop a national
13:19consensus with PTI
13:21as CMKPK?
13:27He gave a speech.
13:29In fact, he was given
13:31a chance to give a speech.
13:33He gave all the details
13:35about his party.
13:37He also gave
13:39arguments about why
13:41that party did not come.
13:43As far as terrorism
13:45should end,
13:47we are with the army
13:49or any institution
13:51that comes forward
13:53in this campaign.
13:55He said this openly.
13:57There is nothing wrong with it.
13:59Later, he said anything
14:01according to political need.
14:03Secondly, the party
14:05is not a part of the solution.
14:07It is a part of our problem.
14:09It was discussed on 18th March
14:11in that conference
14:13that the biggest issue
14:15for us is
14:17the 4,000-5,000 terrorists
14:19who were brought from there
14:21and their supporters.
14:23The total number
14:25is 40,000-50,000.
14:27It was discussed in that conference.
14:29The people
14:31who brought
14:33the terrorists
14:35and even today,
14:37Gandhapur says
14:39that they will not allow
14:41any operation.
14:43Ask Maulana
14:45who is a part of the opposition
14:47about Ismail Khan's condition.
14:49No one can leave the house
14:51in the evening.
14:53The people who are
14:55a part of this problem
14:57make us believe that
14:59if we do not sit down,
15:01they will not come.
15:03Today, Mr. Khan says
15:05that they should be released
15:07on parole.
15:09When Mr. Khan was the Prime Minister
15:11and there were security meetings
15:13of this kind,
15:15he did not come.
15:17I remember one hour
15:19when Mr. Bajwa
15:21was praying for him
15:23to come.
15:25He said that
15:27he will not come.
15:29So, you are saying
15:31that national consensus
15:33is not of importance
15:35when national security comes.
15:37National consensus is
15:39what the people want.
15:41The people do not want
15:43their children to die.
15:45The people do not want
15:47their soldiers to be martyred.
15:49The people do not want
15:51the 400 graves
15:53to be buried.
15:55They do not know
15:57what is happening
15:59to their mothers, daughters
16:01and children.
16:03What kind of people are they?
16:05If they do not have their pain,
16:07why will the people have their pain?
16:09Yesterday, Ali Ameen
16:11said in KPK House
16:13that we did not settle down
16:15by bringing back
16:17the terrorists of TTP.
16:19They were settled
16:21after the PDM government
16:23came in July 2022.
16:25There is a documented proof
16:27of their settlement.
16:31They are making a mistake.
16:33They are making a mistake.
16:35I will show you
16:37Imran Khan's statements
16:39that when these people
16:41settled down,
16:43there were meetings.
16:45Our people participated in it.
16:47Haji Asif and other people
16:49also participated in it.
16:51These were not
16:53the people who were settled
16:55before.
16:57Bajwa sir and General Faiz
16:59tried to convince them
17:01that they will be
17:03mainstreamed.
17:05None of our people
17:07objected to it.
17:09Haji Asif said yesterday
17:11that he did not say anything.
17:13We listened to him.
17:15He came after making a decision.
17:17To deceive the truth,
17:19to tell lies,
17:21is not a good thing.
17:23They do not even agree to 9th May.
17:25They are saying that we did not
17:27do it. It was a false flag operation.
17:29They are saying that
17:31their accounts are also not ours.
17:33They are also disowning them.
17:35Disown the account of
17:37Khan sir as well.
17:39When Jaffer Express was
17:41seized by our Yargamali,
17:43what was Khan sir's
17:45tweet?
17:47He did not even
17:49consensus within the government is of utmost importance as well and for that Nawaz Sharif
17:54can play a very important role but we are not able to see Nawaz Sharif actively in politics.
17:59He has followers so he has voted for PMLN's vote bank which is not considered by PTI but
18:04is a vote bank. Where does he get his votes from? How does he get his votes from?
18:09He gets his votes from his followers. He gets his votes from his followers.
18:14Where does he get his votes from? How does he get his votes from?
18:19Where does he get his votes from?
18:44The entire party was involved in this and Nawaz Sharif was also a part of it.
18:47If I was a part of it, then I am Nawaz Sharif.
18:50All the people from the party who came there, because he is the president at the moment,
18:54they were doing the inauguration.
18:56Listen to me.
18:58If he had come as a person, as a big leader, if he had given permission,
19:05then this conference would have been much bigger.
19:09I agree.
19:10But there are issues.
19:11I personally know that he is not allowed to travel.
19:16For now, for a few weeks, 10 days, maybe after that he will travel.
19:22But when his party was present, if justice was being done,
19:27then there would have been no difference if Imran Khan had not come.
19:30The party would have been represented.
19:32In the same way, the party has been represented because Mian Sahib has not come.
19:36And Mian Sahib is a part of these decisions.
19:38They are consulted.
19:40They are given approval as to what the party's position should be.
19:44But Irfan sahib, you are saying that after a week or 10 days,
19:48he will be allowed to travel.
19:50Is Nawaz Sharif Ali?
19:55Look, his problems are not from today.
19:59They have been going on for a long time.
20:01The issue is still going on.
20:03And Ali is not in such a situation.
20:06By the grace of Allah, he is meeting people.
20:08He has met Karan as well.
20:10He meets people from the party as well.
20:13So, it is not a condition that he should be forced to sit separately.
20:20The condition is that he should be asked to be careful
20:24whether it is by air or by road.
20:30And where is Mohsin Naqvi sahib?
20:34I read it in the newspaper.
20:36You must have read it as well.
20:38Maybe he is also out of the country due to some treatment or some other reason.
20:42Irfan sahib, I read it in the newspaper.
20:44If the people read it, they will understand.
20:46You are a part of the government.
20:47He is an interior minister.
20:48He is one of the most important ministers of this government.
20:51So, even the people of the government do not know where he is.
20:55Since when have I been a part of the government?
20:59No, you are a part of the government's Jawahat.
21:01Irfan sahib, since you are a part of the government's Jawahat,
21:04you are a part of the government by proxy.
21:06You are right.
21:09I am a part of the government's Jawahat.
21:11I am a part of the parliament as well.
21:12I am a part of the senate as well.
21:13I am not a part of the government.
21:15I am not aware of the programs of the ministers of the government.
21:20I do not know why they are out or present here.
21:22I do not know whether they attend a meeting or not.
21:25I am neither aware of these things nor can I comment on it.
21:30Irfan sahib, even the ministers do not know about this.
21:32Khawaja Asif sahib does not know about this.
21:34He says that he kept calling but he did not answer the phone.
21:36This sudden absence, this sudden disappearance,
21:40this is giving rise to a lot of questions.
21:43Being an important member of the government's Jawahat,
21:46are you not worried that all of this will come to your government?
21:49No, no.
21:50I am not as worried as you are.
21:53I am very worried.
21:54It is an ordinary matter.
21:55Okay.
21:56I am very worried.
21:58I am very worried.
21:59To be honest, Irfan sahib.
22:00Is our interior minister such an important type?
22:03If you say so, I will agree.
22:05But his absence,
22:07I am very worried.
22:08I am sure his absence is creating a lot of worries.
22:11Thank you very much Irfan Siddiqui sahib for joining us.
22:13It was a pleasure having you on the program.
22:14We will go to the break and come back after the break.
22:20Welcome back after the break.
22:21Sahibzada Hamid Raza sahib is with us.
22:24He is the head of SIC.
22:25At this time,
22:26he is also representing Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
22:30Sahibzada sahib,
22:31first of all,
22:32do not meet the National Security Committee.
22:36Both you and I are witnesses to this.
22:39I had told you
22:42that for God's sake,
22:43do not bring politics into the National Security Committee.
22:46Do go to this meeting.
22:48Otherwise, the government will have an option
22:50to make you hear it.
22:52And that is exactly what is happening.
22:54In the name of Allah,
22:55thank you very much.
22:56There are two factors.
22:58The first factor of this decision was that
23:01the stakeholders,
23:03I belong to Faisalabad.
23:05In my Faisalabad,
23:07there is no such vibe of terrorism.
23:09Alhamdulillah.
23:10Thank God.
23:11The MNAs from Balochistan
23:15are not present in this meeting.
23:17The MNAs from KPK,
23:19parliamentarians and senators
23:20are not present in this meeting.
23:22We are going to discuss the issue of Balochistan and KPK
23:26without the public representative
23:28of those two respective provinces.
23:30Wait a second.
23:31I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
23:32Okay.
23:33Is Mr. Ajag Zahid from Balochistan?
23:34Yes.
23:35Has he been a representative of Balochistan?
23:37He was never invited there.
23:38Is PTI from KPK?
23:41Yes.
23:42Has he been represented?
23:43No.
23:44If we say,
23:45look,
23:46you did not go,
23:47but you were invited.
23:49If we say,
23:50invite all the people,
23:51because only one MNA or MP
23:53does not become a representative.
23:54You invited everyone.
23:55There is a war going on
23:56between the 40-30 MNAs of KPK.
23:58Why did you not invite them?
23:59At least,
24:00they should go to the Jamaat.
24:01This is the reason.
24:02You were not inviting them.
24:03You said,
24:04if you did not invite them,
24:05we will also not go.
24:06There should be no representation.
24:07Look,
24:08this was the second thing.
24:09All the people had a consensus on this.
24:12You should have made him meet Mr. Imran Khan.
24:14I did.
24:15Whom did you make him meet?
24:16On the 18th,
24:17Barrister Gauhar.
24:18Is it a problem to make him meet Barrister Gauhar?
24:20Whom did you make him meet?
24:21We do not have any problem.
24:22Then whom did you make him meet?
24:23I am asking,
24:24the entire committee,
24:25the negotiation committee,
24:26or the parliamentary committee,
24:28why did you make him meet them?
24:30Look,
24:31the problem is,
24:32you said,
24:33make a meeting.
24:34They made him meet
24:35Barrister Gauhar,
24:36the chairman of PTI.
24:37No,
24:38they made him meet
24:39the day
24:40the national security meeting was going on.
24:41The meeting was at 11 o'clock
24:42and that was in the afternoon.
24:432 o'clock.
24:44It was after 2 o'clock.
24:45Exactly.
24:46So,
24:47the meeting
24:48started here
24:49at 11 o'clock.
24:50No,
24:51but tell me,
24:52you are saying,
24:53whom did you make him meet?
24:54You made him meet the chairman.
24:55No,
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