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- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
- Senator Kamran Murtaza JUIF
"When you are in a State of war, An Operation is a Trivial Matter..." Rana Sanaullah's Statement
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"When you are in a State of war, An Operation is a Trivial Matter..." Rana Sanaullah's Statement
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00:30and the people who are terrorizing them.
00:33We are hearing these incidents every day.
00:35A captain has been martyred.
00:37Our soldiers and officers have been martyred.
00:39Our civilians have been martyred.
00:41Balochistan KPK is in a bad state.
00:44And this week, the National Security Committee met.
00:50In this meeting, all political parties should have been informed about what is going on in politics and what is not.
00:57I am a witness to the fact that this meeting was being decided in PTI.
01:02And within the framework of the Pakistan Movement,
01:05it was decided to go to PTI and ask questions.
01:07After asking the questions, the issues should be resolved.
01:10And at least on this matter, there should be no politics.
01:14But at night, before dawn, the meeting took place.
01:18In the meeting of the political committee, it was decided that the meeting would not be held.
01:22Until then, no meeting of the parliament should be held.
01:24The meeting of the National Security Committee should not be held.
01:27All parliamentarians should be present.
01:29Then it was decided that Imran Khan should be met.
01:34The next day, Imran Khan is also met.
01:37And the meeting of the National Security Committee also starts simultaneously.
01:42But what happens?
01:44Now, this is a matter of parliamentarians.
01:47On this, Mr. Tesori is saying that the members of PTI should be present.
01:51The leaders of PTI and the members of the National Assembly have all the rights.
01:59But when the meeting of the National Security Committee was called,
02:04this group boycotted it.
02:08Because they wanted to please those leaders from whom the dollar has been seized.
02:14Because the leaders of their party do not want Imran Khan to come out of jail.
02:20Then, as I said, there was a demand for Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf.
02:25We want to talk to our leaders.
02:28We want to take guidance from them.
02:30So let's meet them.
02:31In reference to the meeting, Mr. Umar Ayyub, the leader of the opposition, wrote a letter to the Speaker's office.
02:38He wrote a letter to the Speaker's office to arrange a meeting with Imran Khan before the National Security Committee.
02:46Because these are issues of national issues.
02:49And until we meet, we cannot give any guidance.
02:53Now, in this situation, the question arises,
02:56does Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf and the government both want to solve security issues or not?
03:03Let them meet first if they are demanding.
03:05And even if they don't meet, Imran Khan should go ahead and solve security matters.
03:12The PTA should go ahead and the government should go ahead.
03:14But a very important, very serious allegation has come.
03:18And that allegation has come from Talal Chaudhary.
03:20He is a part of the government cabinet.
03:23He says that Bani PTA is the patron and chief of terrorists.
03:26Listen.
03:28After a week, he has condemned Jaffar Express.
03:31Bani PTA is the patron and chief of terrorists.
03:35This is a national opinion.
03:36If you cannot stand against terrorists, then don't stand with them as their friends.
03:42Whether it is a resolution or a national action plan, it will be implemented and carried out.
03:48They shoot and we talk.
03:50We talk to those who don't have guns in their hands.
03:53We talk to those who have guns in their hands.
03:57Now the question is about a new operation.
04:00And it should not be an operation.
04:02Let's listen to what CM K.P.K. has to say.
04:05We do not allow an operation in this case.
04:07Not at all.
04:08That is the reason.
04:09We have done an operation before.
04:10It was of no use.
04:11It was a loss.
04:12Intelligence-based operations are already going on.
04:14No such thing has happened.
04:15Precisely, in terms of political stability and in terms of Imran Khan.
04:19Mr. Rana Sanawullah is here to talk to us about this.
04:22Thank you very much.
04:24Mr. Rana, you have joined us.
04:25You are the senior adviser of PMLN.
04:27Mr. Rana, first of all, you started talking about this operation.
04:30Even before this, when we spoke, the situation of the operation was suddenly exploited.
04:35A new operation is being carried out.
04:37It is not being carried out.
04:39In the meeting of the National Security Committee, is Azme-9 going to be a hard state and not a soft state?
04:46What is this?
04:47Mr. Rana, please explain this to us.
04:48Do you have any clarity?
04:51Look, the briefing that was done by DGMO General Kashif Abdullah was very clear and comprehensive.
05:05In that, whatever strategy has been done so far, he has put it in front of the national political and parliamentary leadership as far as possible.
05:23And after that, the comments that the Army Chief made, he said a very important thing, which I think should have been noticed.
05:36And the things that are being said here and there are being described from references.
05:42The Army Chief said in a very two-stroke manner that we are in a state of war against terrorism.
05:53So you tell me, when the army chief of the country says that we are in war against terrorism, then this operation is a very ordinary thing.
06:11Operation can be the name of a part of a war or an act.
06:21So when we are at war against terrorism, then what is the starting point?
06:30Or what is the starting point from a new perspective?
06:35In that, intelligence-based operations are also taking place.
06:40In that, outside our borders, where terrorists have been found or it is known that they are planning to attack us, there have also been strikes.
06:57So this kind of conversation can only be done with the media consumption or keeping in mind our political needs.
07:12That is, if it is intended, then it should be done.
07:16Otherwise, there is no delusion in it that the state of Pakistan is in a state of war against terrorism.
07:26Mr. Rana, now he is not in the National Security Committee.
07:31But now he is saying that we will call an all-parties conference.
07:34If they call you and the government union to their all-parties conference, then will the government go?
07:42Will the Pakistan Muslim League go to this all-parties conference which will be held by the PTI?
07:46Look, my personal opinion is that terrorism is such an issue that the country and the nation are facing at the moment.
07:56Whatever effort is to create consensus on this, that effort should be welcomed.
08:03This effort has been made by the government and the parliament.
08:09In this, the PTI has not gone and harmed itself.
08:14They have separated themselves from a national requirement.
08:21By the way, this is their old habit.
08:24They have been subjected to such actions before.
08:29But anyway, they did not do it well for themselves.
08:33Otherwise, they cannot harm the whole nation by being separated in this way.
08:39So anyway, if they call an all-parties conference, then the decision will be taken by our coalition in government.
08:47They will lead all the parties.
08:50In this, our party or we cannot take a separate position, nor will we.
08:56But my personal opinion is that every effort of consensus,
09:01which is to unite the nation against terrorism,
09:08which is to strengthen our forces, should be welcomed.
09:12Now, there will be two sides to the opposition, Mr. Rana.
09:16On one hand, you will have to harm the PTI and its allies if you want to develop consensus.
09:22And on the other hand, separately, it is the PTI's government, but it is the KPK's government.
09:27Mr. Amir Waqam was also saying in my program that Mr. Ali Meen Gandapur is sensible as CM.
09:33And he knows that the working relationship between KPK and Wifaq is necessary.
09:39It cannot work without it.
09:41Do you also think that Ali Meen Gandapur is working reasonably as CM?
09:46Or are your thoughts contrary to this?
09:50In the meeting of the Parliamentary Committee,
09:54whatever Mr. Ali Meen Gandapur said,
09:59that was to my assessment, was positive.
10:06He did not say anything negative.
10:10In fact, he spoke positively.
10:14He said that he is ready to help the forces and the government against terrorism in every way.
10:24He is also ready to fulfil his part.
10:29He certainly complained about the funds, that our funds used to be more.
10:33We have been given less.
10:35We have been given more funds so that we can strengthen our police and CTD.
10:41But he did not say anything that I will not cooperate or we will not cooperate in this.
10:47I think that there are some requirements of their party leadership,
10:53and there are some requirements of their workers' party.
10:57Accordingly, if he has said a few extra words,
11:00then I think that we should not feel so helpless.
11:03Mr. Imran Khan, since we are talking about helplessness,
11:06PTI says that we are helpless until we get our leader out.
11:10We do not want to come to any such forum.
11:13Imran Khan is in jail, but Nawaz Sharif is free at this time.
11:18Why did he not come to this important meeting?
11:21Everyone is complaining. JUI is complaining.
11:24Even many people from PMLN are saying that Mr. Nawaz Sharif should come out to deal with such matters.
11:29Why is he not coming?
11:31I think that he thought it appropriate that the PM of Pakistan, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif, should lead this meeting.
11:46And as a result, whatever consensus arises,
11:50and whatever decision is made,
11:55if he has a separate role from the government or the party,
12:01then he is ready to play that role as well.
12:04He has never taken any action out of hesitation.
12:14He has always been very forward in these matters.
12:17In fact, after 2013, he played a very important role in the end of terrorism.
12:26He, his government and his party.
12:29Therefore, he is ready to play that role.
12:34He is ready, but the problem is that you are talking about his first role in the end of terrorism.
12:41In 2014, after APS, he played an important role.
12:44When Mr. Imran Khan fell from the crane, he left at that time.
12:47So why is there so much silence now?
12:49When Mr. Nawaz Sharif used to play such an active role earlier,
12:51then why is there silence now?
12:53Look, there is no question of silence in this.
12:56After all, look, now the party or they,
12:59it is their own decision that they made the decision of the Prime Minister for Mr. Shahbaz Sharif.
13:08Now, the head of the government or the state has to play this role.
13:16Now, it is not that he should come and sit in every matter and the Prime Minister should be on one side.
13:26The Prime Minister should lead these things.
13:29And where there is a need for guidance, there is a need for help.
13:32So that party is also present and the leaders of the party are also present.
13:37Well, Mr. Rana is out of politics at this time, out of the government.
13:41But there is a lot of complaint about the silence of a government figure at this time.
13:46Mr. Mohsin Naqvi, his statement has come, but where is he?
13:50The Ministry of Defense is saying, in fact, the Minister of Defense himself is saying,
13:54I called Khwaja Asif Sahib, he did not pick up the phone.
13:56Where is Mr. Mohsin Naqvi? Where is the Interior Minister, Mr. Rana?
14:00Look, now, there is nothing good on the record.
14:07But it has been heard or said that there is a health problem going on.
14:14So, if this is the case, then may Allah give him health.
14:18Health is first, the rest of the responsibilities are for later.
14:26But it is that due to their absence, there is no lack of weakness anywhere.
14:35Whether it is the meeting of the party or other matters,
14:38the people who are responsible, the people who are responsible for doing these things,
14:49then all these things are happening.
14:52There is no such thing anywhere that due to the absence of someone or their presence,
15:00God forbid, there is a lack somewhere.
15:03Mr. Rana, if there is no problem with not being there, then what is the benefit of their presence?
15:08Is it the situation that people say that he is just a stamp paper, the Interior Minister?
15:16Look, only you can say such true things, I cannot.
15:23Mr. Rana, if there is no need for them, then how is the ministerial meeting going on?
15:28Who is running it? From where is it going on?
15:30Look, the Interior Minister is running it, it is in front of you.
15:34I have said that no one should point out that there is a lack at this place.
15:42You cannot give such a sign.
15:47And anyway, there are two or three people, so there is little work.
15:52There are more people, so there is no such thing as a lack.
15:57Generally, there are more people.
15:59Mr. Rana, you are right.
16:00Mr. Talal Chaudhary is also here, then Mr. Parvez Khattak is also here.
16:03Anyway, we will move a little further.
16:04The Prime Minister has gone on a tour of Saudi Arabia at this time.
16:07Obviously, it is an important tour.
16:09He is trying to bring foreign direct investment.
16:11What are the expectations of the government from this tour, Mr. Rana?
16:15Look, our expectations are as high as the sky.
16:22Because the country's economy, look where we were in 2017-18.
16:31And we were signing up to join G20.
16:36And all the mistakes we made before that,
16:41and if I say in these words,
16:46sometimes it was the military era, sometimes democracy, sometimes hybrid.
16:54So despite all this, despite these indecisiveness,
16:58we were able to control all our issues in 2017-18.
17:03So we were about to move forward.
17:05And in the next two or four years,
17:08if we had crossed everything,
17:13maybe we would have joined the developed or G20 countries.
17:19But unfortunately, another project was done,
17:24another experience was done.
17:26And because of that, the situation we are in now,
17:30our expectations are so high,
17:33that maybe it is not in anyone's control,
17:37or it is not in anyone's need to fulfill all the expectations.
17:40But having said that,
17:43Saudi Arabia is trying to fulfill our expectations to the maximum extent possible.
17:57And right now, we have a lot of expectations from Saudi Arabia.
18:03May Allah make our expectations to be fulfilled to the maximum extent possible.
18:13So that we can get out of this difficulty.
18:22Mr. Rehman, our expectations have always been high.
18:24We should fulfill our needs on our own.
18:27We should not go to any other country for that.
18:29However, what commitments are you bringing, Mr. Prime Minister?
18:32Going at this time, especially considering that we have stabilized the economy to some extent.
18:38What commitments are you bringing?
18:40What are the benefits of this?
18:43Look, I can't say that they will bring something as a showcase.
18:51They will show the whole nation that they have brought this thing.
18:55Look, this is a partnership.
18:58This is an understanding between the two countries.
19:04This is a long-term partnership,
19:09in which Saudi Arabia is ready to invest here.
19:15In fact, this work has already started.
19:17And may Allah make these things move forward in the coming days, weeks and months with the same speed and understanding.
19:27Which is also present at the moment.
19:29And to move forward from this,
19:34there is a lot of sincerity and a lot of commitment in the leadership of both countries.
19:42By the way, Mr. Rana, there is a lot of sincerity in you and the Pakistan People's Party.
19:47There is also a commitment.
19:48And there are discussions.
19:50There is also understanding.
19:52But the problem is coming there too.
19:54You must remember that you said in my previous program that the issue of the Cholistan Canal will be called for an iftari, Mr. Prime Minister.
20:00And the matter will be resolved at that time.
20:02Now the situation is that Irsa has said that there is a shortage of water.
20:05And this time, the provinces will get less water than their limited share.
20:09So, in such a situation, you said that the issue of the Cholistan Canal will be solved.
20:12Mr. Rana, where is it now?
20:14Has it been solved?
20:15Has it not been solved?
20:16Are there still any issues or problems?
20:18Is there any discussion?
20:19Mr. Rana.
20:21Look, this is a very difficult issue.
20:23And there was already a shortage of water.
20:27And now that shortage is increasing a lot this year.
20:31There are some such calculations in the coming years.
20:35So, anyway, that is the issue.
20:37And we have to solve that issue too.
20:39Because without solving it, there is no future.
20:42So, there are different technical and professional people working on it.
20:52How can we do these things?
20:56So, let's see if there is a solution that can gain the trust of all the parties.
21:02And in the future, it can also meet our needs.
21:06It is not impossible to reach it, but it is difficult.
21:10And we may not be able to reach any conclusion so soon.
21:14So, work is being done on it.
21:16So, God willing, very soon there will be such an atmosphere on it
21:22in which everyone will understand this issue and play their role.
21:29Mr. Rana, I think there won't be enough talks and discussions.
21:33This matter is still in demand.
21:34You are confirming that this matter is still in demand.
21:36It is still in demand.
21:38Right, Mr. Rana.
21:39Thank you very much for joining me in the program.
21:40It was a pleasure having you.
21:41We will go to the break after the break.
21:43How to improve the political situation so that the security situation improves?
21:47We will discuss this after the break.
21:53Welcome back after the break.
21:54Viewers, at this time, the most terrorism is coming to Pakistan.
21:56So, it is coming from Afghanistan.
21:58And Afghanistan was facing the US for a long time.
22:01But recently, the Taliban government of Afghanistan is also acting mellow in front of the US.
22:08The US had set three conditions.
22:10First, that they should release our prisoners.
22:12They did that.
22:13Second, they said that they should return our weapons.
22:15Third, they told the Taliban to return our Bagram base.
22:19They complained to Pakistan that they have a lot of problems with Pakistan.
22:24So, they said that if you return our weapons, then your problems will end.
22:28The two provinces that are facing the most problems are KPK and Balochistan.
22:33The CM of KPK has presented a book of his activities to many people.
22:42He has talked about 25 sectors.
22:44He said that we have gone into a surplus of Rs. 169 billion.
22:48We have established a fund of Rs. 30 billion for debt management.
22:53Then, 36% budget has been allocated for health and education.
22:57There is a notice in the Supreme Court about the state of KPK schools.
23:03We will discuss this in detail one day.
23:06But today, I saw the CM of KPK alone in one of his speeches.
23:13I could not digest the loneliness of Ali Min Gandapur.
23:17He will talk about this.
23:19There are many more things to talk about.
23:20Ali Muhammad Khan is with us.
23:22He is the senior randomizer of PTI.
23:23Ali sahab, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
23:25Ali Muhammad Khan sahab, Ali Amin Gandapur is your CM.
23:29Earlier, we were watching the tug of war of politics.
23:32Are the leaders of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Jadid not supporting their CM?
23:37Is he the same CM that your leader has appointed in KPK?
23:41In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.
23:44Allahumma asfali ala Muhammadin wa ala aali Muhammad.
23:47I have been reading Rooh Sharif for a long time.
23:51It has been a long time since the program started.
23:53But recently, two people are in a lot of pain.
23:56So, I will start reading it two or three times.
23:58Which people are in pain?
24:00I do not know.
24:01Satan is in pain.
24:02Anyway, I will answer your question.
24:04Ali Muhammad Khan sahab, you have already said this in the beginning.
24:07So, you should say the whole thing.
24:08Do not say half of it.
24:09It does not matter.
24:11Should I say their names?
24:13Should I say their names on social media or live television?
24:17Leave it.
24:18On social media?
24:19They have gone through the dustbin of history.
24:21Okay.
24:22Let it go.
24:23The world is full of such people.
24:25They cannot do anything in life.
24:27Those who do something, they are dragged down.
24:29I want to come to your question.
24:31Ali Ameen Khan is the lion of Imran Khan.
24:35He is a brave man.
24:37He managed the province in difficult circumstances.
24:39He took the province to victory.
24:41The vote was here and in Punjab.
24:43It is a pity that if there was a leader like Ali Ameen in Punjab,
24:49who could come out and lead,
24:51I would not say that there is no leadership of that level in Punjab.
24:55But he did not have a leader like Ali Ameen Khan.
24:57That is why what should have happened could not happen.
25:00Anyway, you said he is alone.
25:02He is not alone at all.
25:04Imran Khan has made him the Prime Minister.
25:06And those who consider Imran Khan to be the leader,
25:08they will support Ali Ameen.
25:10If Ali Ameen Khan is removed tomorrow,
25:12for example, God forbid,
25:14he will be removed,
25:15then Khan sahab's decision will be made.
25:16But as long as he is the Prime Minister,
25:18and there is no chance of being removed,
25:20Imran Khan's confidence is gained.
25:22So this is a strange thing that he has become alone.
25:26These are the same people.
25:28Similarly, there are people like Papa Kutner,
25:30who talk about this and that.
25:32Leave these things.
25:34We are focused.
25:36Ali Ameen Khan talks about this and that,
25:38it is a different matter.
25:40When a person sees it with his own eyes,
25:42then the matter is different.
25:44This is the reality.
25:46This is the reality of Ali Ameen Khan.
25:48Your fighting has become limitless.
25:50And the CM,
25:52who is facing terrorism at this time,
25:54along with him,
25:56the other senior leaders of PTI are not visible.
25:58Why?
26:02Look,
26:04some programs are in the official capacity
26:06of the CM.
26:08Some people come there.
26:10But if there is an official invitation,
26:12who are the main people
26:14who do the matter?
26:16Who is the main leadership?
26:18Along with Ali Ameen Khan,
26:20there is Barrister Gauhar,
26:22Chairman, Secretary General Salman Raja,
26:24Opposition Leader Umar Ayub Khan,
26:26Prime Minister Junaid Akbar Khan,
26:28or old workers like us,
26:30or the public, everyone supports him.
26:32Who is upset?
26:34I want to know.
26:36Who does not agree with him?
26:38You find it in your pages.
26:40Do you know Ali Ameen Khan?
26:42You went today. I was not there.
26:44Today was the day of Ali's martyrdom.
26:46I was there.
26:48Do you know?
26:50Okay, let's move on.
26:52Do you know?
26:54No, I really don't know.
26:56Okay, I will let you know later.
26:58Wait a minute.
27:00If I find out,
27:02I will deal with Ali Ameen Khan later.
27:04Because right now,
27:06we do not have the opportunity
27:08to fight with him internally.
27:10There is no question
27:12that we should let him go any further.
27:14In other political parties,
27:16there is a confrontation in every party.
27:18I am not saying that everyone is a lion.
27:20I am not saying that everyone is a lion.
27:22Then you agree.
27:24I am not saying that there is tension.
27:26I am saying that there is a little competition
27:28in every political party.
27:30There is a positive competition.
27:32It is a form of partnership
27:34against Ali Ameen Khan.
27:36We are hearing that there is a forward block.
27:38Where is that forward block?
27:40Where is it?
27:42It is in KPK.
27:44Where is it?
27:46I don't see any forward block.
27:48Okay,
27:50your point of view and my point of view
27:52will be a little different.
27:54Let's move ahead, Ali Ameen Khan.
27:56I have spoken to some leaders
27:58off the record.
28:00I will not mention their names.
28:02Then you will have a problem.
28:04I am telling you that
28:06I have spoken to some leaders.
28:08Social media and Pakistan
28:10are on the same page.
28:12You will not let me speak.
28:14Where is the leader?
28:16Social media and leaders
28:18are on the same page.
28:20The leader is one.
28:22The leader is one.
28:24The vote is of Imran Khan.
28:26Tell me, are social media
28:28and leaders on the same page?
28:30Is Pakistan on the same page
28:32with Imran Khan?
28:34Look,
28:36there is a little misunderstanding.
28:38I will not deny that.
28:40That is,
28:42people have seen
28:44People's Party Noon Week
28:46media sale.
28:48There are 10-20 people sitting there.
28:50There are crores of people.
28:52Everyone has a smartphone.
28:54Everyone who supports
28:56Imran Khan is
28:58a social media warrior.
29:00There are a lot of people.
29:02How can these crores of people
29:04be controlled by
29:06the top 3-4 people?
29:08Of course, they do whatever they want.
29:10But our official people
29:12are the landowners.
29:14They are our official people.
29:16They are headed by
29:18the party hierarchy in the country.
29:20Are they in the country?
29:22Are they in the country?
29:24Pakistanis are in Pakistan
29:26and Pakistanis are in every corner of the world.
29:28I am not talking
29:30about supporters.
29:32I am not talking about
29:34Pakistanis in South Africa,
29:36Pakistanis in Africa,
29:38Pakistanis in the UK,
29:40Pakistanis in Russia,
29:42Pakistanis everywhere.
29:44On a very serious note,
29:46I am telling the government
29:48and the people who run them,
29:50I am telling them.
29:52Let me tell you a poem by Mirza Ghalib.
29:54The dust was on the face.
29:56The dust was on the face
29:58and the mirror kept moving.
30:00Do not move the mirror.
30:02Clean the dust off your face.
30:04It is not the fault of these Pakistanis.
30:06You are the one who is doing injustice.
30:08You are the one who is not talking.
30:10You are the one who is not talking.
30:12You are the one who is not talking.
30:14I understand what you are saying.
30:16I am not talking about this.
30:18My question is something else.
30:20I am not talking about
30:22the strictness on you.
30:24I am not talking about this.
30:26I do not want to put you in any trouble.
30:28We have had a brother and sister.
30:30I do not take anyone's name.
30:32I am just saying this.
30:34I am the biggest opponent of
30:36the dirty campaign.
30:38I am telling the government
30:40that if a journalist
30:42has made a report,
30:44then you should take action against him
30:46if it is wrong.
30:48Why are you targeting his mother and his house?
30:50This is wrong.
30:52Listen to my question as well.
30:58I am not asking this question.
31:00My question is that
31:02those who are your supporters
31:04understand the supporters.
31:06You do not control the supporters.
31:08The supporters will give their independent opinion.
31:10I am talking about
31:12your official handles.
31:14I am not talking to you.
31:16I am not on air.
31:18Leaders are worried
31:20that we are giving
31:22a different statement
31:24from the official handles.
31:26Don't you have any control
31:28over your own social media?
31:30I am not talking about the independent people.
31:32Your supporters are independent.
31:34It is their wish.
31:36I am talking about the official.
31:38I do not have
31:40a party organization.
31:42I am a part of the core committee
31:44of the party.
31:46I see many things.
31:48There are administrative decisions.
31:50As far as I know,
31:52your official media
31:54is not irresponsible
31:56to do anything against the country.
31:58There are many people
32:00who react to these things.
32:02Let's talk in another plane.
32:04The country needs
32:06unity.
32:08Our people are being martyred.
32:10Our soldiers are being martyred.
32:12Our police are being martyred.
32:14In these circumstances,
32:16you are right.
32:18I 100% agree with you.
32:20But why didn't the PTI
32:22go to the National Security Committee
32:24for unity?
32:26This is what I wanted to ask.
32:28You asked a good question.
32:30Is the government's policy right?
32:32Does the government want
32:34unanimity?
32:36Our army is fighting.
32:38All the institutions
32:40are fighting for the security of Pakistan.
32:42Some people question their performance.
32:44Some people raise questions
32:46about the civil-military balance.
32:48But when the terrorists fight,
32:50the whole nation stands behind them.
32:52What is the government's
32:54responsibility for this?
32:56The government's responsibility
32:58is to engage the opposition
33:00in totality.
33:02You are engaging the opposition.
33:04What about the most important leader?
33:06You have put the biggest leader
33:08in jail.
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44:22The problem is that everyone is sitting, and I am talking about my own personal opinion.
44:29All these things are still unresolved.
44:32This could have been completed in one day.
44:36The PTI and other groups did not participate in this.
44:39The government needed them.
44:41They should have been called.
44:43They should have been called by force.
44:45They should have been called by force if they had to be called.
44:49Nawaz Sharif himself did not participate.
44:51This is another bad gesture.
44:53Then there should have been a Q&A session.
44:56We should have told them what was in our hearts.
44:59We heard what was in their hearts.
45:01But that was an angle.
45:03The answer to our questions should have been in the light of our questions.
45:08There should have been at least a 2-3 day session.
45:12You can convert it into a giant session.
45:15You can convert it into all parties.
45:18But it should have been done in such a way that everyone's opinion would have been heard.
45:25There should have been no announcements like the one the government has made now.
45:30There should have been announcements on one side, and then it should have been said that this is a joint effort.
45:35This is a joint effort of everyone.
45:37It could have been a joint effort of everyone sitting in the government.
45:40But this is not our joint effort.
45:42We have never consented to this.
45:44That is a very interesting point, Senator Kamran.
45:46Thank you very much for joining me in the program.