Why award garlands to those released if PTI isn't involved in May 9 events?" Rana Sana
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00:00The people who have done the 9th of May, if they are not their own people, then why are they making the people who have been released wear this garland?
00:12Why are they making them own?
00:15These people who have been released, don't they have video evidence against them?
00:23When the punishment was given, wasn't it brought in front of the media?
00:27After that, didn't these people write that the mistake we have made should be forgiven?
00:33Their punishments were not forgiven on their own petition.
00:37They used to say that these people are not ours.
00:40Today, they are making them wear the garland.
00:43In front of the media, you are a lawyer, right?
00:47The verdict has come in front of the media.
00:50Detailed judgments have not come yet.
00:52As it happens in the civil court, the judgment takes a whole year, so we read it.
00:57Because there is an argument for the entire case.
01:00Here, we don't even know the detailed verdict.
01:02We have only been told that this person has been sentenced to 9 years, that person to 2 years, 5 years.
01:07So we can't even talk about it.
01:09We don't know if the video has been shown or not.
01:12We are assuming that there is a video.
01:14But I don't know whose video it is.
01:16No, no, they have been framed.
01:23So, in your opinion, there are so many technical issues.
01:30In your opinion, there are so many technical issues.
01:33No, I am coming to the negotiations.
01:36In your opinion, there are so many technical issues.
01:39Even if there are two petitions, there are so many technicalities involved at different levels.
01:44Do you find it difficult or impossible to solve the formula in 15-20 days?
01:53No, I don't find it difficult or impossible.
01:58Now, whatever the Charter of Demand will give us,
02:03our position on it,
02:07the difference between that position and their demand,
02:12they will decide that it can be solved in one meeting or in ten meetings.
02:17How much time is needed for this?
02:20For example, they say that the lawsuits against us are correct.
02:29We don't object to those lawsuits.
02:33We have applied for bail.
02:39So, the prosecution should not object to it.
02:42The court should facilitate us to get the bail.
02:50Now, the cases and the accused,
02:55for each case and each accused,
02:58there can be a difference of opinion from our side or from the prosecution's side.
03:03Now, the way there were 103 people,
03:07out of them, 18 people were released earlier.
03:10Out of 85 people, 19 were released again.
03:14They have been pardoned.
03:17Out of the 67 people who have appealed,
03:21if possible, some of them may get a concession.
03:25So, these things will take some time.
03:30And these 19 people who have been released,
03:34is this a conference building measure?
03:37Is this a message to the PTI?
03:40That we are backing this process of the government
03:44and are demonstrating a good intention.
03:48If you stay in the dialogue process and keep talking,
03:51there can be more relief.
03:53Is this a clear message from the CBM?
03:56In this regard,
03:59the army chief's office
04:04has left these people with a lenient view on the appeals.
04:14So, now,
04:17they are not taking part in the negotiations.
04:24In fact, they have a very clear stance of DGI and SPR
04:28that we do not have a mandate to negotiate.
04:30But,
04:32they have expressed their willingness to negotiate among the political parties.
04:36They have said that if the political parties and politicians
04:40sit together and resolve their issues,
04:42we will be very happy.
04:44In fact, they have said that we will be happy about this.
04:47So, they are not opposed to the dialogue.
04:53So, you cannot take this on your own.
04:57But, in the same statement,
05:00Mr. Rana has also said that
05:03people have been punished.
05:06But, until the mastermind is punished,
05:09this will not reach a logical conclusion.
05:12Mr. Faiz Ameed has also said that
05:15his investigation is going on.
05:17He has said that he has done a lot of wrong with vested political interests.
05:21His investigation is going on and his decision will be made in the coming days.
05:24In the statement of ISPR,
05:26there is no doubt that
05:27this is a matter of PTI and PTI leadership.
05:32Now, the question is,
05:34you have brought up an interesting point.
05:37Now, the question is,
05:39till yesterday, we knew that
05:42there will be a military trial of Mr. Imran Khan
05:45regarding the May 9th case.
05:47And, this is repeated.
05:50The DGI-ISPR has emphasized that
05:53these things will reach a logical conclusion.
05:55So, has the danger of a military trial
05:58over Imran Khan been eliminated?
06:00Or, is there still a danger for him?
06:03No, you cannot pre-empt this.
06:08Look, the question is,
06:12should the mastermind of May 9th case be released?
06:16It should not be released at all.
06:19But, the matter is that,
06:21discussions are something else.
06:22Political democratic system is something else.
06:27In that system,
06:29it is something else to have a dialogue
06:32between the opposing political parties.
06:34And, in this parliamentary democratic system,
06:37it is something else to engage each other
06:40in the division of power.
06:43Now, there has been an incident,
06:45a crime,
06:47and the person who is involved in that crime,
06:49what has that got to do with the punishment?
06:52Whoever is being punished,
06:54whoever is being accused,
06:57whoever is proven guilty,
06:59they should face their own charges.
07:02But, that does not mean that
07:05you should blame the entire system
07:09and say that the system will not move forward
07:12unless you release the culprits of this incident
07:20or you withdraw the proceedings against them.
07:25These things do not make any sense to each other.