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- Salman Akram Raja PTI
- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
PTI vs PTI: Is the Party Naturally Splitting or Being Torn Apart?
Azam Swati Telling the Truth or Lying? Salman Akram Raja Breaks His Silence
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- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
PTI vs PTI: Is the Party Naturally Splitting or Being Torn Apart?
Azam Swati Telling the Truth or Lying? Salman Akram Raja Breaks His Silence
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:17A few weeks ago, there was news of PTI v. Establishment, PTI v. PMLN, PTI v. The World.
00:24Now, for a few days, there is only one news, PTI v. PTI.
00:28It can be seen that the differences, which were previously denied,
00:32or what is said to be a natural course of events in parties,
00:36have now come out openly.
00:38Groupings have come out.
00:39There is a group of Ali Amin Gandapur, Junaid Akbar,
00:42in which there is Asad Qaisar and Atif Khan.
00:45These are all other groups.
00:46There were always two or four groups.
00:48In the beginning, we used to listen to PTI America v. PTI Pakistan.
00:52Whatever PTI America wanted to do, they tweeted it,
00:55they did everything, but there were no consequences.
00:57And the people of PTI here used to say,
00:59they are sitting in America, they write whatever they want,
01:01they say, we suffer.
01:03Then we saw the groupings in PTI Pakistan.
01:06Something natural happens.
01:08And now we have seen that it has gone to such an extent
01:11that allegations of billions of fraud have been put on each other.
01:14Then allegations have been put on each other,
01:16who is talking secretly with the establishment, who is not.
01:19And all these things were still going on.
01:21Then Azam Sawati's statement came.
01:23In his statement, it is clear that he is clarifying his position,
01:29that why did I do it, what am I doing, on whose behalf am I doing it.
01:33But the immediate impact of it is that
01:35a question has arisen on two very big things.
01:39One is that PTI's constant insistence
01:41that we are not talking to anyone.
01:43It keeps happening and should happen.
01:45There is nothing wrong with it.
01:47But from Azam Sawati's statement,
01:49it seems that it was initiated by them.
01:52And one thing that I used to say again and again in my programs,
01:55and many people did not believe it,
01:57because many of our other friends used to say that
01:59this offer is coming, that offer is coming.
02:01And I used to say that look, there is no offer coming.
02:03One side is not ready at all.
02:05They also did it today.
02:07These were very important developments.
02:09We will talk about all these things.
02:11Where do we stand?
02:12Then an important delegation came.
02:14And the people of PTI America were very prominent in it.
02:17There was Mr. Burki, there is Atif.
02:19These are the people who have done a lot for Imran Khan
02:21and are still doing it.
02:23But when they met here,
02:25from different circles,
02:27then the same thing happened with them
02:29from PTI's digital wing,
02:31which happens with the rest.
02:33Azam Sawati also talked about it.
02:35I will also tell you about that.
02:37And I will also tell you about that meeting
02:39which took place at a very important place for them.
02:41There, obviously, as expected,
02:43they talked about Imran Khan's release,
02:46that there should be some kind of a room
02:48where there is a formula for co-existence.
02:50And I am saying co-existence
02:52to be fair to the delegation.
02:54They did not say to anyone
02:56that we need forgiveness,
02:58we need compensation.
03:00They said that co-existence is necessary for the country.
03:02So it was a matter of tolerating each other.
03:04They were messaged two or three things there.
03:06They were told that look,
03:08on one side you want to talk
03:10and you want to talk to the leadership
03:12of the army,
03:14on the other hand,
03:16your people go and get resolutions tabled
03:18which by name target the army chief.
03:20Your media is not in your control.
03:22And if your social media is not in your control,
03:24if no one owns it up,
03:26then how will you talk?
03:28We have heard a lot about guarantors
03:30that individuals cannot be guarantors.
03:32They have no status.
03:34The government is not visible to us
03:36on the horizon.
03:38All these things were going on.
03:40And as far as I am concerned,
03:42there was an understanding
03:44that we will meet again in a month
03:46and see how things pan out.
03:48All this was going on.
03:50Today, the PTI official
03:52has sent two more hard-hitting tweets.
03:54And again,
03:56they have targeted the army chief.
03:58Their regime
04:00has made a lot of violations,
04:02elections, fraudulent elections,
04:04etc.
04:06One tweet is even more damaging
04:08because it contains
04:10very personalised statements.
04:12For example, in 2024,
04:14when they said that the establishment
04:16has done everything it could,
04:18now all they have left is to murder me.
04:20Then, if anything happens to me,
04:22the army chief and DGIS will be responsible.
04:24This is from 26th August 2024.
04:26All these tweets
04:28contain such statements.
04:30The second is also a very personalised tweet.
04:32It is clearly visible
04:34that if an American group
04:36has come and if they are meeting,
04:38then they should not
04:40get involved.
04:42Somehow, there are two
04:44strange statements from the PTI.
04:46I will tell you about the latest
04:48statement made by Mr. Sawati.
04:50We will talk about this in the first part of the programme.
04:52Another meeting is very interesting.
04:54I will talk about it in the second part of the programme.
04:56It is a meeting between
04:58Maryam Nawaz and
05:00Mohsin Naqvi.
05:02It was a very innocent meeting.
05:04Mohsin Naqvi came on Eid
05:06and met Maryam Nawaz.
05:08I will tell you the background of this meeting.
05:10Why is this meeting important?
05:12Especially,
05:14Maryam Nawaz had to call on
05:16Mohsin Naqvi.
05:18Many people may find
05:20this normal.
05:22The Chief of Punjab
05:24has called on the Interior Minister
05:26for a meeting.
05:28But, believe me,
05:30this messaging is very important
05:32in the power play that is going on.
05:34We will talk about this in the second part of the programme.
05:36In the first part of the programme,
05:38Mr. Salman Akram Raja has joined us.
05:40He is the Secretary General of the PTI.
05:42Assalam-o-Alaikum, Salman.
05:44Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
05:46Salman, first of all,
05:48I would like to hear
05:50Mr. Sawati's statement.
05:52Do you consider it to be damning
05:54or has the confusion
05:56been cleared?
05:58We do not even know
06:00what the policy of the PTI is.
06:02Are we talking to the establishment
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12:08I'm sure Khawaja would like to distance himself from the fact that he is responsible for my murder.
12:15Do you own up or disown PTI officials? Who is running PTI officials?
12:27Look, this has happened on many levels. We are not running it.
12:33The party leadership in front of you has its own editorial board.
12:39Where is it? I am not aware of it.
12:41But what they say, I think they are careful to an extent.
12:47But they don't even deny the truth.
12:49Look, we don't want to talk about this.
12:52Salman, I'm not trying to put you in a corner.
12:58Generally, I want to understand.
13:00You said that they have an editorial board.
13:02Who made the editorial board? Who is responsible for it?
13:06You are the Secretary General.
13:07You say that you don't know who is running it.
13:09You are the party president. We don't know.
13:11Who is running it?
13:14I don't know.
13:16This is an independent body that has been working for a long time.
13:20I can't say which stage it was at.
13:25But they have their own independent stand.
13:28And it is possible that what we are talking about in the country,
13:32or what they are talking about, there is a slight difference.
13:35But there is not a big difference.
13:37You said that they have done hard-hitting tweets.
13:40They have taken names.
13:41Look, Mr. Khan has also taken names.
13:43And there is no excuse for taking names.
13:46It won't happen that we hide the truth and sugarcoat it.
13:52No, I'm talking about the timing.
13:54I'm not saying that you should dilute your stance.
13:58Where your negotiations are going on,
14:01the person does a little bit.
14:03But Mr. Swati is blaming them that things are not going on because of you.
14:08This is true.
14:10We will tell you what we think is the truth.
14:13If there is a false allegation of fraud in this country,
14:16and the election was looted,
14:18and a 16-seat party was given power on the basis of that looted election,
14:22then who is responsible?
14:23There is someone responsible for this.
14:25So we will not deny that truth at all.
14:27We will say that now come forward and rectify your mistakes.
14:31The mistakes that you have made in the past,
14:34have caused harm to the country.
14:36It will cause more harm.
14:37That is Balochistan,
14:38where you did not let your real representatives come forward for 75 years.
14:42And now you are doing the same thing in the whole country.
14:44This is bad for the country.
14:46We will keep saying this.
14:47You are a lawyer.
14:49Tell me one thing.
14:51You are a very astute lawyer.
14:53You are a very eminent lawyer.
14:55If you are fighting a case with a judge,
14:58do you antagonize the judge?
15:00Or do you have a better relationship with him?
15:02No, it's not like that.
15:03Let me tell you, Mr. Malik.
15:04It's not like that.
15:05We will not discuss this in secret.
15:08We will not discuss this in secret at all.
15:11And we do this many times with the judge as well.
15:14Look, it's not like that.
15:15We have to fight a case of the history, of the people of Pakistan.
15:19We will not go forward by hiding things.
15:21We will not go forward by begging.
15:23We are not sitting here to beg.
15:25That you give us your pleasure.
15:27We are not asking this.
15:28We are not asking anyone for pleasure.
15:30We are saying that this is your duty now.
15:32Pakistan is standing on such a foundation,
15:35in front of which there is destruction.
15:37Anyone who works for the republic,
15:39for the constitution,
15:40for human rights,
15:42or against extortion,
15:44does not do anyone a favor.
15:46This is your duty.
15:48So we will discuss this.
15:49Salman, tell me one thing.
15:51I want to take a break.
15:55But I am leaving a question for you.
15:58The question is that the biggest problem right now
16:01is due to your digital wing.
16:04Thanks to it, the firewall has been created in this country.
16:07Its purpose has not been solved.
16:09But the firewall has been created.
16:11We are all suffering.
16:12This is due to the digital wing.
16:14You are saying,
16:15Sajam Swati Sahib is also saying that
16:17our talks are being torpedoed with these things.
16:19The people who came from America,
16:21no one is even letting them come.
16:23Everyone says, we don't know.
16:24Gauhar Sahib says, who got it, who didn't get it.
16:26We don't know.
16:27Which seems like an unbelievable thing.
16:30But did you, as Secretary General,
16:33did you try to find out
16:36who is running it?
16:38Who is responsible for it?
16:40So that we know something.
16:41Because every time,
16:42this is a big spoiler or motivator
16:46from both sides, depending on how you look at it.
16:48Who knows the truth?
16:50You don't know.
16:51Chairman Gauhar Sahib doesn't know.
16:53Does Khan Sahib know?
16:54Who knows about this whole thing?
16:56After this break.
17:04Welcome back to the show.
17:06Before the break, I asked Salman Sahib,
17:08why is it so secretive?
17:10It's not a Freemason society.
17:12Salman, tell us,
17:14why is it so secretive?
17:16All this social media,
17:18and why we should know,
17:20who is in charge?
17:22I can say, I don't know.
17:24I am not involved in this.
17:26I can't say anything more than this.
17:28The whole issue of social media,
17:30you can look at it in a broad perspective.
17:32You can move towards a resolution.
17:35In my opinion, this will happen.
17:37This won't be sequential.
17:39You can make CBMs,
17:40fix the system,
17:41leave the kidnapping.
17:42Last night, our boys have been kidnapped.
17:44Houses have been demolished.
17:46Somewhere there should be an atmosphere of decency.
17:48Then you can move forward.
17:50I think all these things will come together.
17:52If decency is to be involved in this matter,
17:56or there will be destruction.
17:57Destruction will continue.
17:59You are saying,
18:01both sides will change their actions together.
18:04We will change.
18:05We don't have to do anything unilaterally.
18:07Why is it expected,
18:09that from one side, there will be kidnapping,
18:11beatings, beatings,
18:13people will disappear for 40 days,
18:15Shikasta will come back with his eyes,
18:17and on the other side, there will be silence.
18:19This won't happen.
18:20You will have to change your attitude.
18:22You will have to think about it.
18:24Tell me,
18:25you are the Secretary General,
18:27do you think Taimur Jhagra is corrupt?
18:29Billions have been accused,
18:31because there people are saying,
18:32that Jhagra was actually,
18:34that the Captain said,
18:36that Shahram Tarkai and Jhagra,
18:39should be involved in the government affairs.
18:41Make them part of the cabinet,
18:43as advisors, whatever.
18:45Even then, Gandapur sir said,
18:46there are some cases,
18:47let them clear first.
18:48He considered them in the opposition group,
18:50and released them.
18:51Now, this has become such a big issue.
18:53Basically, Gandapur sir,
18:55is fighting for his survival.
18:57Are you laughing or not?
19:01I think the line has dropped.
19:03Let's take a break.
19:05We will come back to Salman.
19:08We are connected.
19:10Salman, can you hear me?
19:12Yes, I can.
19:15Tell me,
19:16is Taimur Jhagra really a fraud of billions?
19:20Look, this is a very unfortunate incident.
19:26I don't think,
19:28that this is a case,
19:30where billions, 34 billion,
19:32are being mentioned.
19:34I have seen this case.
19:36The money went from one account of the government,
19:38to another account.
19:39There is no confusion in this.
19:41So, this is a sad situation.
19:44Whenever I will meet Mr. Khan,
19:46we will resolve this matter.
19:48And, I think,
19:50Mr. Jhagra can do a lot for the party.
19:53Mr. Ali Ameen can also do a lot.
19:55They need to work together.
19:57So, these are the issues.
19:59I will not deny,
20:01that there is confusion in the party.
20:03And, some people have expressed their sorrows to each other.
20:08But, this is not a matter of 34 billion.
20:13People are saying that,
20:15whenever the PTI talks start,
20:17with Jai Juhai,
20:19the Chief Minister gives a statement.
20:22Then, things go backwards.
20:24The split in the party,
20:26has now come to the central level of KP politics.
20:30There is information,
20:32that some of the leaders who were in your meetings,
20:34said that,
20:36Bushra Bibi also advised Mr. Khan,
20:39to change.
20:41Mr. Ameen Gandapur said,
20:43to be patient.
20:44We will see the situation.
20:46So, it seems that,
20:48Mr. Gandapur is fighting for his survival.
20:50Except for the release of Imran Khan.
20:52And, the latest news,
20:54when Mr. Khan said,
20:56that he will do it next Eid.
20:58I have heard that,
21:00Mr. Gandapur,
21:02and some of the insiders,
21:04said that,
21:06in a month,
21:08they will take you to Bani Gala,
21:10or Peshawar jail.
21:12At that time, we did not take it seriously.
21:14We did not let people meet,
21:16the so-called hawks.
21:18Only Mr. Gandapur and Mr. Sehwag met.
21:20Mr. Sehwag also has a history.
21:22So, it seems that,
21:24some things are happening,
21:26in which you people,
21:28have been put aside.
21:32You call me a hawk.
21:34This is a bit of a surprise for me.
21:36But, I am not a hawk.
21:38Every principled man,
21:40is a hawk right now.
21:42And, whoever is a principled man,
21:44is a hawk.
21:46Absolutely right.
21:48I am a big fan of,
21:50a dignified talk.
21:52I don't think that,
21:54we should be afraid,
21:56to have a talk.
21:58We will talk on principles,
22:00and we are ready for that.
22:02This is the only way,
22:04to bring about the prosperity of Pakistan.
22:06We all have to bring about the prosperity of Pakistan.
22:08I have no objections to this.
22:10Anyone can have a talk.
22:12When Dr. Sehwag came from America,
22:14Mr. Barki was not a part of it.
22:16Mr. Atif Khan, who is in America,
22:18was also not a part of it.
22:20These people had their own initiative.
22:22No decision will be based on Mr. Khan.
22:24In the end, whatever the decision will be,
22:26whatever the matter will be,
22:28it will be according to Mr. Khan's will.
22:30This is absolutely clear.
22:32If you don't meet,
22:34and Mr. Gandapur,
22:36after two and a half months,
22:38Mr. Barista,
22:40don't you think it is unusual?
22:42It is absolutely unusual.
22:44It is absolutely logical,
22:46and practical,
22:48that we should meet
22:50specific people.
22:52This is an insult to the court.
22:54We are standing in front of the court.
22:56Why? Why should we meet them?
22:58Why should we meet those specific people?
23:00This is what I think.
23:02This is what I think.
23:04Let me tell you.
23:06This is what I think.
23:08This is a childish mentality.
23:10This is a childish mentality.
23:12They think that if Mr. Alif speaks,
23:14if Mr. Bey speaks,
23:16Mr. Khan will get carried away with him.
23:18He will say yes to everything.
23:20This is not the case.
23:22Mr. Khan did not understand this.
23:24His views, his position,
23:26is very strong.
23:28He is standing for a principle.
23:30He will not get carried away
23:32with the discussion of Alif or Bey.
23:34He will stop the meeting.
23:36This will go to the Supreme Court.
23:38They will have to meet.
23:40After the meeting,
23:42we will want to move forward
23:44on the basis of principle.
23:46We will also fight.
23:48Salman, we have run out of time.
23:50Salman, we have run out of time.
23:52But very quickly,
23:54on the run,
23:56I am hearing that
23:58the group of Aleema Khan
24:00is also suggesting
24:02that a four-member committee
24:04should be formed
24:06to publish his official statements.
24:08It should not be you,
24:10or someone else.
24:12It should be an official committee
24:14whose responsibility is
24:16to publish Mr. Khan's official statements.
24:18Will you support this idea?
24:24The committee will not be allowed
24:26to meet Mr. Khan.
24:28This will happen.
24:30Mr. Khan is clear
24:32about who will speak on his behalf
24:34and what he has to say.
24:36Everyone who meets him
24:38is not allowed to speak.
24:40People do speak.
24:42Don't take all these things
24:44to be Mr. Khan's statements.
24:46There are many things.
24:48Is Aleema Khan allowed, Salman?
24:50Is Aleema Khan allowed
24:52to speak on his behalf?
24:54Do you remember
24:56the big news
24:58that she gave?
25:02Aleema Khan is her sister.
25:04She is completely sincere.
25:06If Mr. Khan used to
25:08convey anything through her
25:10in the past,
25:12it was the same.
25:14Even today,
25:16it is possible that
25:18she will say something
25:20on my behalf.
25:22It can be anyone.
25:24It can be Aleema Khan,
25:26it can be anyone.
25:28It is not difficult.
25:30Everyone who meets him
25:32is not allowed to speak.
25:34Don't take all these things
25:36to be Mr. Khan's statements.
25:38Salman Akram Raja,
25:40thank you very much
25:42for your time as always.
25:44He said two interesting things.
25:46First, I have no idea
25:48who runs PTI.
25:50Second, it is unusual
25:52that these people
25:54like Imran Khan and
25:56Barisat Saif
25:58have come here.
26:00The truth is that
26:02the doors are still
26:04not opening.
26:06The hands of these divisions
26:08are very big.
26:10There is a method to madness.
26:12First, Imran Khan is inside.
26:14He is isolated.
26:16Then there are party differences.
26:18There are national pressures.
26:20Then the party breaks.
26:22Mr. Swati said that
26:24the doors are not opening.
26:26Look at the messaging.
26:28You will see a pattern.
26:30If you see a pattern,
26:32you will see a planned conclusion.
26:34Anyway, let's take a break.
26:36After the break, we will talk
26:38to Mr. Anand Sinhawala
26:40and discuss other important meetings.
26:48Welcome back to the show.
26:50Politics has its own demands.
26:52Many times, politicians have to
26:54deny things even if they don't want to.
26:56We say that they are lying.
26:58But they think it is a matter of
27:00principle.
27:02We have talked about PTI meetings.
27:04Now we are talking about another meeting
27:06which took place in the last ten days of Ramadhan.
27:08It was a very simple meeting.
27:10Maryam Nawaz Sahiba called
27:12Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi
27:14and there were talks.
27:16Supposedly, it was said that
27:18there will be a political
27:20border control.
27:22You must have seen a photograph
27:24where Mohsin Naqvi called
27:26Nawaz Sharif.
27:28We met there.
27:30Mohsin Naqvi is sitting next to him.
27:32I hope that
27:34you will see this picture on the screen.
27:36Maryam Nawaz Sahiba
27:38is sitting in the other corner.
27:40It seems that
27:42it was a part of a meeting
27:44and not a part of a conversation.
27:46Mian Sahib speaks very softly.
27:48If you sit next to him,
27:50you can hear his voice.
27:52It was not a part of a conversation.
27:54Why am I talking about this meeting?
27:56It has a history.
27:58There was a power tussle
28:00between Maryam Nawaz Sahiba
28:02and Mohsin Naqvi.
28:04Both have their own ambitions.
28:06They both are in politics.
28:08Everyone looks for the biggest position.
28:10Both of them are ministers.
28:12Mohsin Naqvi was a caretaker.
28:14Nawaz Sharif
28:16became a minister
28:18after Shahbaz Sharif.
28:20Both have their own ambitions.
28:22Some people
28:24think that
28:26Maryam Sahiba
28:28has been undoing
28:30a lot of things
28:32since she became the chief minister.
28:34Anyway,
28:36there was a conflict
28:38which was impacting
28:40anti-terrorism.
28:42Maryam Sahiba
28:44called on Mohsin Naqvi.
28:46Usually,
28:48interior ministers call on the chief minister.
28:50Many people
28:52think that it is a messaging.
28:54Mian Sahib
28:56went to balance this issue.
28:58Mian Sahib is a three-time prime minister.
29:00He had to call on Mohsin Naqvi.
29:02Maryam Sahiba
29:04calling on Mohsin Naqvi
29:06was a part of a discussion
29:08in power circles.
29:10This was an interesting meeting.
29:12People are saying that
29:14the hatchet has been buried.
29:16But,
29:18you will see some effects
29:20in the coming days.
29:22We will talk about some other political issues.
29:24Our favorite
29:26Rana Sanaw Allah is with us.
29:28Assalamu Alaikum, Rana Sahib.
29:30Walaikum Assalam.
29:32Rana Sahib,
29:34someone told me
29:36that in this picture,
29:38three prime ministers
29:40are sitting.
29:42One was not allowed to sit.
29:44One was not allowed to sit.
29:46Three of them are sitting.
29:48One could not sit.
29:50One will sit.
29:52Why is this meeting
29:54so prominent?
29:56Maryam Sahiba
29:58is calling on the chief minister.
30:00She is a home minister.
30:02There are some protocols.
30:04Is this also a messaging?
30:08Look,
30:10you have
30:12brought this issue
30:14from far away.
30:16You have
30:18presented this story
30:20according to your thoughts.
30:22I know that
30:24one of them
30:26has to become the chief minister.
30:28Whether
30:30he becomes the chief minister
30:32after four years
30:34or after that,
30:36he has to become the chief minister.
30:38So,
30:40this is not
30:42an issue
30:44that you have mentioned in your intro.
30:46Look, Maryam Nawaz
30:48is a
30:50big
30:52political
30:54struggle.
30:56She has been
30:58in politics
31:00for 40 years.
31:02Mia Nawaz Sheikh
31:04PM LN
31:06is her heir.
31:08She herself has been
31:10a big political struggle.
31:12She has
31:14led the party
31:16when
31:18she was in jail.
31:20She was facing
31:22the worst
31:24of
31:26fascism.
31:28She is
31:30the future
31:32of the party.
31:34She is the future leader.
31:36So,
31:38there is
31:40no question
31:42that you have mentioned
31:44in your intro.
31:46Sir, Mr. Rana,
31:48tell me one thing.
31:50If she is a struggle,
31:52there is no other
31:54power base.
31:56She became the chief minister
31:58just like that.
32:00She became the interior minister
32:02and is leading so many important committees.
32:04Did she come down from the sky?
32:06You know that, don't you?
32:08I know.
32:10I know.
32:12There is a poem by Ghalib,
32:14but I don't want to read it.
32:16The rest of the matter is that
32:18Maryam Nawaz
32:20should not be compared
32:22with Maryam Nawaz.
32:24She should be compared with someone else.
32:26There are many people in our party.
32:28She should be compared with someone else.
32:30But she should not be compared
32:32with Maryam Nawaz.
32:34I am not comparing.
32:36I was just giving a history
32:38that there was a conflict.
32:40Now,
32:42it has been said that
32:44both of them should co-exist
32:46in the national interest.
32:48You are saying
32:50that
32:52she was the chief minister
32:54and she is the chief minister.
32:56She is the nominee
32:58of a party.
33:00She is the elected
33:02chief minister.
33:04So,
33:06there is a big difference
33:08between being a caretaker
33:10and an elected chief minister.
33:12In this way,
33:14you can compare
33:16things.
33:18You are right.
33:20There is a difference
33:22between being a caretaker
33:24and an elected chief minister.
33:26There is a difference
33:28between being a caretaker
33:30and an elected chief minister.
33:32There is a difference
33:34between being a caretaker
33:36and an elected chief minister.
33:38There is a difference
33:40between being a caretaker
33:42and an elected chief minister.
33:44There is a difference
33:46between being a caretaker
33:48and an elected chief minister.
33:50There is a difference
33:52between being a caretaker
33:54and an elected chief minister.
34:22Mr. Malik,
34:24Mr. Malik,
34:26Mr. Malik,
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