"If the Jail Gates Can Open at 7 AM to Postpone a Rally, Then..." Shaikh Waqas Akram
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00:00Sheikh sahib, are you done with the conversation?
00:05No, I am not done with the conversation.
00:07The conversation has just begun.
00:09The committee was formed after the massacre of 26,
00:14which happened because of the article 245 of the Prime Minister.
00:18And we provided an opportunity for all stakeholders and concerned quarters
00:22that whoever has anything to say,
00:24whether it is the government or the establishment,
00:30or with the establishment, whoever has anything to say,
00:32they can start the conversation.
00:34So, you saw the first meeting.
00:37You saw the second meeting.
00:39We thought that there was no need to return anything.
00:45But other friends think that we need a return.
00:49So we said that we cannot proceed without meeting Mr. Khan.
00:53But unfortunately, as we speak,
00:58because the Speaker's office still facilitates
01:01whatever is the case with the government
01:04with regards to this discussion committee.
01:06So, as we speak, we do not have any intimation from the Speaker's office
01:10regarding the meeting.
01:12Other than that, things are fine.
01:14I think what is meant by fine is that
01:17Mr. Malik, the thing is that the assessment can be done
01:21with regards to the things before the meeting.
01:24When the discussion will begin properly,
01:28there will be a discussion, there will be an exchange,
01:31there will be points, there will be a discussion.
01:34We can see only after that.
01:36So, as of now, I think that
01:40where the discussion has started,
01:43things are where they were.
01:45I don't think there is any such change in that.
01:47No, I am asking you because
01:49days matter because if there were open-ended negotiations,
01:52then it wouldn't matter for a week or two.
01:55January 31st is the deadline.
01:57And what Ms. Aleema has said,
02:00it has become clear that the deadline,
02:02according to what Mr. Khan has said, is in place.
02:05Now, the third week is still going on,
02:07so you people have not been able to formally present your demands.
02:11The meetings that were supposed to take place,
02:13of the party, of the negotiating committee,
02:15that is not happening.
02:16So, is the government non-serious?
02:18After all, what is the complicated issue in this?
02:20They could have met today, they could have met the day before.
02:23So, do you have any intention?
02:25This is what I think.
02:26This is what I think.
02:27Like you are saying that
02:28there is a need to assess the attitude of the government.
02:31The reason for that is that
02:32our Chief Minister is sitting in the meeting of the negotiations.
02:37The entire attendance is there,
02:39all the members of the Joint Committee of the Shirkah.
02:42And no one has time,
02:45nor is it necessary that
02:46only pictures are taken,
02:47or a person goes to a meeting to drink tea.
02:49You know that the worker of our party is also very charged,
02:53and he is also looking at everything very carefully.
02:56So, the party cannot afford this.
02:58So, I think that the seriousness of the party is present in its place.
03:01And why not be serious?
03:03I mean, even after the massacre of 26,
03:05if Imran Khan has made a committee
03:07and given this opportunity,
03:08then that means he is serious.
03:10Now, you can see how much he wants to take advantage of this opportunity.
03:13Look, sir,
03:14what a great job it was.
03:15We said, yes, if you arrange a meeting,
03:17then we have no issue with the return,
03:20but it is not possible without a meeting.
03:22And this is also our right.
03:24Last time, it was a very small meeting,
03:25a recorded meeting,
03:26in a small room.
03:27This time, if you make it extensive,
03:29then it does not make any difference.
03:31And they also agreed on that.
03:33If you can open the jail at 7 in the morning
03:35to delay a Jalsa,
03:36then the day we requested,
03:37the next day,
03:38let us arrange a meeting.
03:40The matter would be over.
03:41We would have called him the next day.
03:43So, we are seeing what he is doing.
03:46And this…
03:48Second, because you have also used the word massacre twice.
03:51Today, Alima Bibi has also said that
03:53Imran Khan has said that
03:55people are still unaware.
03:56Why is no voice being raised on this matter?
03:58And I am told that
03:59he said it quite harshly.
04:01And he was quite unhappy about it.
04:03Then we saw that everyone remembered.
04:05Salman Akram Raja Sahib also came out
04:07and spoke first that
04:08the real issue is that,
04:09the rest are secondary issues.
04:11Suddenly, now that issue has been raised.
04:13So, this is the criticism of leadership,
04:15of Khan Sahib.
04:17As far as you are talking,
04:20as far as my relationship is concerned,
04:22I get the opportunity to interact
04:24with my brothers 4-5 times a day.
04:28But if you see,
04:29for the past 10-12 days,
04:31there may be a time when,
04:33as a party,
04:34I have not raised this issue.
04:36And obviously, that matters.
04:37I have the responsibility.
04:39And I regularly,
04:41in interactions,
04:43say on behalf of the party,
04:45that we need justice for the martyrs.
04:47We need justice for the prisoners.
04:49And for the prisoners of 9th May.
04:51So, you were not scolded.
04:53Those who were scolded,
04:54they know.
04:55You also know.
04:56I am not saying that you were scolded.
04:57You were pardoned.
04:59Sir, when I am saying,
05:00the whole party is saying.