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00:00Trent Williams will be back, Iuke will be back, Kittle, Debo Samuel, Bosa, Warner, they're all going to be back.
00:06All their big boy players are going to be back.
00:09That's not a bad thing though, Stoney.
00:11I think it is. I really do.
00:13I think the ship has sailed.
00:15But they're one year removed from that cast of characters going to the Super Bowl.
00:21And that's coming to an end.
00:23But I get what you're saying.
00:25But if we understand they don't have many moves they can make.
00:29It goes to what I told you yesterday.
00:32You're looking at a glass half empty.
00:35I think we know more about the other players that are injured right now than Brock.
00:40And I'm just telling you, Trent Williams, if he decides to play, that lets me know he knows he slipped this year.
00:47And maybe it started with whatever was going on in the offseason.
00:52Iuke, that's different. You can't control that.
00:55Hopefully he'll pull off a Greenlaw and he's back.
00:57But hopefully that's not when it's too late.
00:59Because that's when Greenlaw came.
01:01Hopefully Greenlaw's better, Stoney.
01:03You sign him and then you put him with the healthy Fred Warner.
01:06And if I'm wrong about my trepidation in regard to Brock Purdy, you hit a reset and you go back at it.
01:15Here's the reality.
01:17If you really think that you're going to get McCaffrey to play like he did two years ago.
01:28And Trent Williams to play like he did two years ago.
01:33And Brandon Iuke to play like he did two years ago.
01:37And Debo Samuel to play like he did two years ago.
01:41If you think all those things are going to happen and Kittle is going to play, then there isn't a problem with Brock Purdy.
01:47Because we've seen him quarterback that team.
01:50And they got to the Superbowl.
01:52But that's what I'm getting at.
01:54I don't think that's what the Warriors are doing.
01:58Exactly. And it's what they tried to do two years in a row after they won the title.
02:04They chased the title two years in a row with older guys.
02:08And I don't think it worked.
02:10And I think football is even worse in that way as it pertains to guys falling off.
02:16And I'll tell you what, Stony.
02:18Had this contract situation in regard to Brock Purdy transpired this offseason.
02:23It wouldn't have been five minutes before he would have got that 60 million or whatever number would have reset the market.
02:30And it's just interesting.
02:32I know guys like you didn't do it.
02:34Because you stayed.
02:35You were holding on.
02:37But guys like myself and women, there were a lot that were ready to give Brock 60.
02:42They didn't.
02:43But see what a difference a day makes.
02:46But they're kind of still in the same boat.
02:48Because, Stony, he's put not just one year together.
02:52He put two years together where it looked like he could do no wrong.
02:55And that's not a lot.
02:57But it's more than whatever we're going to call this year.
03:00Because he hadn't missed many games.
03:03You know?
03:04You remember when Steve Kerr.
03:06Tough gets going.
03:07Remember when Steve Kerr talked about the year after Durant left and Klay was hurt?
03:14He said, this is the real NBA.
03:16We've been in dream world.
03:18So the 49ers, I think, in a way, have been in dream world the last few years with all their stars.
03:25Right.
03:26And what naturally is Macbeth about it is they didn't win it all.
03:32Exactly.
03:33So this could just be what you're describing as a natural.
03:36Not crumble, but a natural coming back down to earth.
03:42No kidding.
03:43They're older.
03:44And no hardware to capitalize on that era.
03:48If that wasn't the best opportunity to do it, it almost is sad.
03:55Let's say they re-sign Brock Purdy.
03:57It doesn't matter.
03:59Do you think they have a better chance of winning it next year than they had at the beginning of this year?
04:03No.
04:04Exactly.
04:05Exactly.
04:06So think about that.
04:07Think about that.
04:08But things are different, Stony.
04:12I know they are.
04:13So if you're telling me your odds are less to win the Super Bowl than they were last year, that sounds to me like you're getting worse.
04:22John and Berkley.
04:23No, I was just saying, but what about at the quarterback position?
04:26You're marrying him.
04:28So yeah, you're looking at your team-taking inventory, and you're thinking about the future and the future seasons.
04:33Do you feel good about the most important position, which is quarterback, that you're taking care of?
04:39I don't know.
04:41Like, I don't know if you're feeling good about it or not.
04:44You shouldn't pay any quarterback if you don't feel good about that.
04:49Just for the sake of argument, you have to pay him, because you think Super Bowl or bust this year was a phrase?
05:00It's going to be more so next year, because these guys are older.
05:06That's right.
05:07That's right.
05:08And some people believe that it's dead now, and others don't.
05:14Let's go to John and Berkley.
05:16What's going on, John?
05:17How are you doing?
05:18Hey, what's up, guys?
05:20How are you doing?
05:21How are you?
05:22Good.
05:23Love the show.
05:24The Super Bowl or bust thing to me has always been funny.
05:27I never subscribed to it.
05:30I've been actually quite grateful for the Niners and the run that they've had.
05:34I do agree with you that their odds of making it next year are a lot less.
05:39I still am very optimistic, though.
05:42I agree with Gu in the sense that we have probably the most amount of injuries of any team, especially at the best positions.
05:50And on top of that, if you take into account that, yeah, they're going to come back.
05:54They're not going to be as good.
05:55But even if we get them back at 70% of what they were two years ago, but they're all healthy, I actually think that we're going to be a formidable team.
06:03I don't look at the NFC West of having any runaway teams in that division.
06:08I think we'll have a puncher's chance.
06:09I do think that we need to get rid of Sorensen, to be honest with you.
06:12I think he's just not a good coach.
06:14And we need to clean up special teams.
06:16And last but not least, we need to focus on drafting in the lines, both D line and O line.
06:22We need to go there first and foremost.
06:24Because to me, that has been the biggest problem is, you know, there are games where we just can't run the ball the way that we're used to running it.
06:31And McKibbitz is not the answer.
06:33You know, I know that, again, a lot of people are hurt there.
06:36And I do think the one player that we're paying a lot of that is actually going to hurt us, because, you know, he's getting older.
06:42I think Williams is just not going to be the same guy he was two years ago.
06:45So I really think that we have to draft on the offensive line and emphasize that.
06:50And I think defensive line, we need, you know, Floyd's been okay, but we're just not getting the pressure that we're accommodating to.
06:57Appreciate the call, John.
06:58Good stuff.
07:00I agree with the 9-2-5.
07:03Can somebody tell that guy 49ers injuries are basically on par with the rest of the NFL?
07:08Well, no, they're not.
07:09Wow.
07:10The Lions have more.
07:11Now that...
07:13Well, they've accumulated more during the season, but the Niners have...
07:18No, I'm not selling you on the Niners aren't taking a step back.
07:22This defense is not what it was.
07:24And what's scary is, how do you get it back there?
07:27Okay, what's scary is now your defensive line is insufficient.
07:32You're paying Bosa, the barbarian, all the bread, and now Stoddy has no shade at him.
07:38You need more from him, and he needs help.
07:41You told us...
07:42You know what Bosa said?
07:43You know what he said?
07:45Well...
07:46Bosa said, right now, defensively, we're hitting our stride.
07:51He says, we're going to get criticism next year when the team looks the same.
07:58Meaning, he knows there's not big changes on the horizon.
08:01And what stride are you hitting when the offense with the least to go are gone?
08:06The game against the Rams with Dre Greenlaw is what he's obviously alluding to.
08:11All right.
08:12So, like that...
08:15You know I love me some Dre.
08:16He made a difference that half in, you know, early third before he left.
08:20So, 4-1-5 on the Comcast business tax line.
08:24Why do they have to pay Purdy now?
08:27Play next year out.
08:29You can still franchise him, too.
08:31If he holds out, he's not our guy.
08:33All right.
08:34Let's take that out to its logical end.
08:38June 2nd, they tell Purdy, you got to play for a million dollars.
08:43And he says, I'm not showing up to camp.
08:46What does that do to your Super Bowl aspirations, which are going to be a long shot anyway?
08:52Okay.
08:53Hold out.
08:54We'll go with Brandon Allen.
08:57Or somebody you got in here.
08:59No, you don't want.
09:00Okay.
09:01He's not good enough not to be at camp.
09:03You just don't want that.
09:05Exactly.
09:06So, you do what you can to avoid that.
09:09So, I dare you to tell him, and this is the other thing, I dare you to tell Brock Purdy,
09:15no, you got to play on the million when you were not courageous enough to do it with Brandon Aiyuk.
09:23Donnie, whatever he gets, they got to have an out clause, man.
09:26They got to have some way to where if this regression,
09:29if you just let me use that for this season for Brock on an individual basis continues,
09:35they could abort mission and get out.
09:38You know, Dak Prescott years ago, I keep going to him, but he wasn't making a million dollars.
09:43He played on the last year, and his ankle, his foot was facing the wrong direction,
09:47but they still paid him.
09:49So, to answer that caller's point, Donnie, teams don't want to look that cutthroat to their own
09:55because that's what, you know, what if Aiyuk wouldn't have got paid?
09:59You think the Niners wouldn't, and you could say, who cares, the Niners ain't tripping,
10:02but you think the Niners wouldn't be looking bad or cheap?
10:05I mean, honestly.
10:06Or would they be behind closed doors like, thank God, not that we're happy he's hurt.
10:10Yes, they would.
10:11Yes, they would.
10:12If you're asking.
10:13Wow, man.
10:14If you're asking me, would John Lynch rather have Brandon Aiyuk as an unmitigated free agent right now
10:21coming off a devastating injury as opposed to coming off a devastating injury and we still owe him
10:28what we owe him?
10:29Yeah.
10:30Man.
10:31What do you think?
10:32Wendy in Minnesota.
10:34Hey.
10:35Hey, Wendy, how you doing?
10:37Hi.
10:38Okay, so I agree with that last caller.
10:40First of all, I think this whole team and management, upper management and Kyle,
10:44they've all been complacent.
10:45They're hanging on.
10:46Every year we're favored to get to the Super Bowl.
10:49They will sign Brock Purdy because they can't have any more drama like they had last year.
10:54He deserves to get more than a million.
10:56Does he deserve 60?
10:57I'd probably give him 45.
10:59I think that'd be fair.
11:01The two players I would definitely keep, I would definitely sign would be Greenlaw and Mason
11:06because there's no way Trent's going to make it through that year.
11:09He's too old.
11:10He's past his prime.
11:11Debo is washed.
11:13We need to get rid of Juszczyk, Hargrave.
11:16I mean, there's a list of players that need to go and this idea that they're going to come back
11:21and even Bosa hasn't been good.
11:24Ayuk's going to miss probably most of next year, if not the whole year, and he was terrible
11:29before he even got injured.
11:30So why don't, instead of just hanging on to these players that are past their prime that they've
11:35given contracts to because they love to play hardball, but they're known for playing hardball.
11:41What do they do?
11:42They give an every damn time.
11:44And maybe had they got rid of Ayuk and not signed Trent, you know, they might have some money
11:49to fix the offensive line and get some younger players because until they get younger players,
11:54the same thing's going to happen next year.
11:56And I mean, I love CMC.
11:58I don't know, you know, how it's going to be next year, but Kyle will do the same thing.
12:02He'll run them into the ground, just like he did when he came back this year
12:06and he wasn't even 100% healthy.
12:08So they need to sign Brock because Kyle doesn't have the patience to develop quarterbacks
12:13every two or three years.
12:15Thank you, Wendy.
12:17And outside of Brock, who is Kyle the genius?
12:21Again, I didn't say he can make quarterbacks, but we saw the debacle there was Trey Lance.
12:26I mean, I guess he's got to go for broke with Brock Purdy.
12:31I just got to say something, though, about what you said to me real quick, Stoney.
12:35Do you know what it was, how big of a blessing it was for Mason to take over
12:40in the short, the five, six weeks?
12:43He had big shoes to fill.
12:45There's not another Christian McCaffrey.
12:48But my bigger point here is Kyle in his play calling.
12:51So you told me, you specifically, hey, kind of look to the side of Mason leading the league
12:58in rushing and broken tackles.
13:00My point is that was a dream that the backup for McCaffrey could handle the load.
13:06Yeah, he's different.
13:08And Kyle couldn't adjust to where he had a bull back there that was not only leading the league
13:16in rushing but broken tackles.
13:18And you couldn't change up on the fly for that to remedy your problems in the red zone.
13:24See, now I'm going down another street.
13:28McCaffrey went down.
13:30They're okay.
13:31If you tell me next year that McCaffrey's not going to play Stoney or replace two games,
13:35I'm confident in Garindo, healthy Garindo and a healthy Mason.
13:40My point is Kyle got that benefit and still couldn't turn what Mason brought to the table
13:48into points in the red zone.
13:50So was it really just, oh, we don't have McCaffrey, that's why we stink in the red zone?
13:55Or is it what I'm thinking it is on a bigger stage, Stoney?
13:59A Kyle problem.
14:01Well, I mean, if it's a Kyle problem.
14:03In regard to play calling.
14:05I don't know.
14:06So you believe Pearsall is this, I gotta be careful.
14:10He's a rookie.
14:11Like, we expect, there were 61 snaps where he didn't get a ball.
14:16He's a rookie.
14:18And here's the other thing.
14:19Quit thinking rookies are going to be impactful if you really want to win a Super Bowl.
14:25I'm not saying that.
14:27One of the reasons they're 6-8 is because they started Poonie on the offensive line.
14:32It's because Pearsall was one of their wide receivers.
14:35It's because they used Garindo a lot.
14:38But I can't ignore when the quarterback overthrows a wide open Pearsall more than once in different games.
14:44Pearsall's irrelevant.
14:46He's irrelevant.
14:47He's a rookie.
14:48But we're talking about him like his production is scrubbish.
14:51Like, it's on him.
14:52No, you're talking about him to me like, oh, he's a difference maker.
14:56It's like, let's figure out what he is.
14:58No, he's a first-round draft pick that was forced into a situation where, A, if the quarterback or the coach identify what he can do and do well, we'll see him contribute.
15:09If you want me to be honest, it's like, they don't have Iyuk.
15:13Debo's been hurt.
15:14It's like, Debo's been hurt.
15:17I mean, Debo's missed a couple games.
15:18Hasn't been effective.
15:19It's like, to me, Pearsall hasn't had a good rookie year.
15:23Brandon Iyuk hasn't even played, and he hasn't stepped in and caught any more balls.
15:28Is that Purdy?
15:29Yeah, and that's what...
15:30No, it's not Purdy.
15:31I believe it's Kyle.
15:33Okay, well, like...
15:37Well, then, everything, we're just pissing into the wind talking about personnel.
15:42Like, if everybody were in their prime, then if Kyle's the problem, they're never going to win it.
15:49Let's go to Mac P from the U.
15:52Mac.
15:54Hey, what's up, guys?
15:55So, I love Brock.
15:57I think he's the guy, but he's shown enough doubt where I don't think it makes sense to offer him the big deal right now.
16:04What I would do is offer him 40 to 45.
16:06If he doesn't want it, you let him ride it out.
16:08And if he just kills it, I guess good for us.
16:11And we could franchise tag him.
16:13People call that cutthroat, but I think these players, they're professionals, and they're just going to have to deal with it.
16:20They're not going to not play as hard.
16:22They're expected to play their best every week, and that's what they have to do in order to have a good career.
16:30So, they may be a little salty, but they're still going to have to do their job.
16:34And I think previous bad deals like Ayoub and Dak Prescott and Trevor Lawrence and Deshaun Watson, those don't mean that we also have to make those mistakes.
16:45So, I think that would be the smart play.
16:48Additionally, in terms of Brock's arm strength, it is definitely a limitation.
16:55Not only the throws deep down the field, but if you're throwing a 10-yard out from across one hash to the other, it's actually like a 40-yard throw in terms of distance.
17:04So, like the great guru said, these teams kind of know what his tendencies are and what his strengths are.
17:11And I think it's like if you play basketball and you can't shoot that well, people are going to...
17:17Let's say shooting is your strong point.
17:20They're going to get up on you if you can't drive and vice versa.
17:23I think that's starting to happen with Brock.
17:25He's not the guy, but there's definitely enough doubt where you've got to be very careful.
17:30Yeah, no doubt.
17:32No doubt.
17:33That's well said.
17:35I mean, do we really not know who Brock Purdy is?
17:39Let me just go to the highest paid quarterback, Dak Prescott.
17:44He'll never win it.
17:46No, I'm talking about...
17:48We know what he is.
17:49Okay, Purdy.
17:50Oh, I would take Purdy over Dak.
17:51Right, barely.
17:52No.
17:53Whatever.
17:54Joe Burrow.
17:55He's not going to be...
17:56He's never going to be Joe Burrow.
17:57Never.
17:58Jordan Love.
17:59I would take Love.
18:00Exactly.
18:01Trevor Lawrence.
18:02Purdy.
18:04Tua.
18:05Purdy.
18:06What I'm getting at is do you really want to be...
18:10Like, we know he's not going to be as good as Lamar Jackson.
18:14He's never going to be Justin Herbert.
18:16Okay.
18:17And he's never going to be my other guy, Josh Allen.
18:21Like, he's not going to be those guys.
18:23But you're not asking him to be.
18:25Well, you're right, but at least acknowledge you're not asking him to be that guy,
18:29but you're paying him more than a lot of those guys.
18:32To be the best version of yourself to run our offense.
18:35Right, which still can't hold a candle to Mahomes and to Allen and to Burrow and to those guys.
18:43To be fair, and again, to be fair, Stiney, he was a third and four away.
18:50Brock Purdy is slaying the piece that was Mahomes.
18:52And you think he can do that?
18:53So he's never going to be the...
18:54Like, that was when he was making $1 million.
18:58So you're going to pay him $60,000, but you acknowledge he's never going to be even a
19:05Rodgers in his prime.
19:07Like, how do you avoid that?
19:10That's real.
19:11Then you pay him like Dak Prescott.
19:13You pay him like Trevor Lawrence.
19:15Tua.
19:17Jesus.
19:18Jalen Hurts.
19:19Murray.
19:21I mean, here's the other thing.
19:24Tell me why Purdy would be...
19:27Whatever Kirk Cousins' best year was, tell me why Purdy would have a better best year
19:34than Cousins.
19:36I thought it was because he had the tutelage under Kaz Shanahan and the scheme had opened.
19:41But that's rotted right before my eyes.
19:44So I say to that stat, I don't know if he can do that.
19:47Exactly.
19:48His arm is not...
19:49I'm just saying.
19:50No, he runs better than Cousins.
19:52He can probably...
19:54But that's one component of Purdy's game.
19:56Next year, you don't want to see because he shouldn't have to utilize it because that's
20:00a byproduct of having to run for his life.
20:03But again, Stiney, on the quarterback sheet of what you can do and what you can't do,
20:08he can't hold a candle to Kirk Cousins on his best day.
20:13Well...
20:14I don't know about that.
20:15Statistically, Brock Purdy's season last year is better than any season that Kirk Cousins
20:19has ever had.
20:20Well, and that's kind of what I'm talking about.
20:22I mean, the numbers are the numbers.
20:27But what I'm saying is, over the course of a season, like, is Brock Purdy smarter than
20:33Kirk Cousins?
20:34I'll give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

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