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00:00:00Hard hat's all about showing up to play hard, doing what it takes to win.
00:00:08If you want to cement legacy, win another.
00:00:10More loot.
00:00:11He's your third center.
00:00:12You don't want to pump him up too much, but it's hard not to.
00:00:16This might surprise you, but this is maybe the most I've ever agreed with you.
00:00:22What's going on, guys?
00:00:24John Zanis, Noah Delzell, and careful Noah, we're going to be on for about 30 minutes
00:00:28together before we get Bobby from Washington.
00:00:29You might end up agreeing with me again.
00:00:31So that's, it's, oh yeah, it's, it's very possible.
00:00:36It's something it's possible.
00:00:37It's possible.
00:00:38Not probable, but we're here.
00:00:40Celtics win again.
00:00:42You know, it's the wizards.
00:00:47I'm looking at a Pistons logo.
00:00:48That's okay.
00:00:50We know what happened.
00:00:52We know what happened in this game.
00:00:55Celtics defeat the wizards.
00:00:57And honestly, like this, these games with the wizards, I don't know, man, this is like
00:01:02a case for relegation.
00:01:03Like with the NBA, I it's almost, I'm almost mad that you have to end up playing a game
00:01:10against these teams.
00:01:11And I think Drew said it on the broadcast.
00:01:14I don't know if you picked it up or maybe it was scowl.
00:01:17It's almost like the Celtics are like practicing stuff.
00:01:21And like, I, I, I think they are the way Jalen Brown approaches these games is kind of funny
00:01:27because like a past version of us, like might've been like, well, Jalen's not taking it seriously.
00:01:32You got to play hard for 82 all the time.
00:01:35And now I don't think that at all.
00:01:36I actually think it's kind of funny because like he knows he's like, these guys aren't
00:01:40beating us.
00:01:41And like, let's see what we can do.
00:01:42It's almost like, I know you probably spent a good deal amount of time on it.
00:01:45Last game, the prophecy coming true of Peyton Pritchard dominating against Detroit.
00:01:51And here you are.
00:01:52It's like, I don't know, just pick your poison, do whatever you want here and play this team
00:01:56before we get too, too far.
00:01:58And Jackson, keep us honest here on any, uh, on any developments, there could be a massive
00:02:03shadow over all of this.
00:02:05Cause Chris jobs for Zingas, who's now played in seven games has left two of them with injuries.
00:02:09And this one was, I hate, and we'll get into the game.
00:02:13I just look, I'm a doomer boomer, you know, and I can't help it.
00:02:18I I'm until I, somebody tells me everything's going to be okay.
00:02:22I'm always worried.
00:02:24I hate that it was heel and not foot that they pointed out here.
00:02:29I hate that.
00:02:30I hate heel because anything to do with Achilles heel or anything in tendonitis or fear of
00:02:37the soleus, all of that's, I hate hearing heel pain, uh, any, any, any gimped off here.
00:02:45So again, put your level of concern on the poor Zingas injury on a one to 10, and we'll
00:02:49get back to it if, and when we get any updates as the game goes on.
00:02:53But, uh, your thoughts there before we talk about the rest of it.
00:02:57Yeah.
00:02:58My thoughts on the presenting his injury is that I don't think this one is major, major
00:03:03cause for concern just because they wouldn't have listed him as questionable to return
00:03:06if it was something where like maybe he ruptured something he'd be out or doubtful at the very
00:03:10least questionable is a good sign.
00:03:11It means that he's dealing with pain, but not necessarily an injury is my interpretation.
00:03:16That being said, my level of concern about poor Zingas in general is pretty high because
00:03:21it does feel like there's been seven games that he's played in this year.
00:03:24Two of them, he left with injuries.
00:03:26They're arresting him.
00:03:27They're load managing him.
00:03:28They're doing everything right.
00:03:29He's working hard and it's just, I feel like it's just playing with fire.
00:03:33So I hate to say it.
00:03:34I I'm like such a big, poor Zingas fan.
00:03:36I love what you add to this team, but you just, you worry about the concept, the prospect
00:03:41of him going through the playoffs, let alone, you know, a stretch of regular season games.
00:03:44It just seems like it's always something and it's the lower leg injuries.
00:03:47And if you look at the way he's built, it makes sense.
00:03:50But that, that is my, I am very concerned about that.
00:03:53Just him in general.
00:03:54I have been for a long time now, but I think with, with this particular one, I would be
00:03:59surprised if we saw some massive update, but yeah, I think just in general, yes, I am concerned.
00:04:04Yeah.
00:04:05And that's the thing.
00:04:06And there's this question.
00:04:07Would you listen to offers for a lesser no, because they, they won a championship without
00:04:13poor Zingas.
00:04:14And as you already know, at this point, poor Zingas is sadly like not the person I, I hate
00:04:21saying this, you know, however many games into, you know, the year we are here, 20 something
00:04:27that I've already kind of changed my view on who poor Zingas is for this team as kind
00:04:33of like a bonus, like, Oh, when they have him, they're really unbeatable, but it's almost
00:04:38like you can't fully count on it because it's like more of a dream than a reality.
00:04:43Like when it's there, it's amazing.
00:04:46And it feels like literally nothing could change, but like, I'm less counting on it
00:04:51than I am devastated if, and when it goes away, I think it not being there when you
00:04:56get to a critical point in the season or the playoffs is possible.
00:04:59If not likely at this point, I don't know if that's an overly pessimistic view.
00:05:03Yeah, I don't think it's overly pessimistic.
00:05:07And that's not a good sign when I think that, because I think it's just realistic based
00:05:10off what we've seen from him.
00:05:11I mean, he had a really relatively healthy regular season last year.
00:05:14I mean, I think it was his best in a long time.
00:05:16And even so, he dealt with two major injuries in the playoffs, one that kept him out the
00:05:20majority of the playoffs and obviously the finals injury that lingered into this fall.
00:05:24He just got cleared.
00:05:25He's already rolled his other ankle, you know, this, whatever this heel thing is.
00:05:30So my concern is that it's not like he keeps getting whacked in the face and he's just
00:05:34having a string of bad luck.
00:05:36It's the same type of play, these awkward turns, the awkward catches that just seem
00:05:42to follow him no matter where, what he's doing or what he's trying.
00:05:47I see the report here from post game is that Missoula hasn't heard anything, but that Porzingis
00:05:51was in good spirits.
00:05:53Doesn't really mean anything, but he's never heard anything.
00:05:55And also, I always point back to in the finals, he said there was zero concern.
00:05:59And then I will never forget that because I remember I was my first year on the beat
00:06:03and I was thinking like, okay, so we're in good shape here.
00:06:05And then learn my lesson.
00:06:06So it doesn't really mean anything.
00:06:08That's the, that's the takeaway from post game, I guess.
00:06:11But yeah, I am concerned about him long-term just because it seems like it constantly happens.
00:06:15Anyone, you know, of a certain age or, you know, or older who remembers the Kevin Garnett
00:06:22rollercoaster that we went on in 2009 and how they discussed that injury, it migrated,
00:06:29you know, from back of the knee to thigh to this and that, they just didn't want to say
00:06:33what it was and it really ruined his career and ruined the, the chance of the dynasty
00:06:38there because it just was something he never recovered from.
00:06:41You never know when that's going to happen.
00:06:42I don't think anything's happened to Porzingis yet.
00:06:44It's that, it's that thing that you talk about, which is like, every time he jumps, every
00:06:48time he runs, every time he does something, I'm always like, oh, he stepped weird and
00:06:53he's gimpy right now.
00:06:54Is that it?
00:06:55Is that, did we lose, did we lose him for 15 games?
00:06:58I don't think that that's going away.
00:07:01On the flip side, he's good at coming back from injuries and they're very good without
00:07:05him.
00:07:06So that's like, just putting it all out there, like that, those are the two components that
00:07:10make me optimistic in general, is that even if he hurts something, like we know he can
00:07:14come back without really missing a beat.
00:07:17And then also they can afford to not have him for stretches of time.
00:07:20So you know, we'll see, we'll see what this is.
00:07:23I don't think this is going to be a serious thing.
00:07:25Again, also all of these games, it's like, he's so optional that if he's dealing with
00:07:29anything, they're not going to play him.
00:07:31So maybe he would have come back.
00:07:32Which is fine.
00:07:33Yeah.
00:07:34You know what?
00:07:35I always hate these stupid, like put them in bubble wrap until the playoffs, um, you
00:07:39know, comments that people make regarding everything.
00:07:41I honestly think that that is what you want to do with Porzingis, but cause it's not a
00:07:45matter of wear and tear.
00:07:47It's really just your, it's a game of roulette with him.
00:07:50I feel like it's frequency.
00:07:53If he plays 60 games, it's just a greater chance he gets hurt in one of them.
00:07:58It's not the amount that he plays.
00:08:00It's not like, Oh, 30 minutes, 32, they wore him down.
00:08:03It's literally just, he's kind of a, you know, a walking accident waiting to happen.
00:08:08So just, I would reduce, you know, I'm all on board with the load management train.
00:08:13And again, any injury that should take two to three days or five to seven, I'm all for
00:08:19doubling the timeline.
00:08:20Because again, the last thing you want to do is have him come in and overcompensate
00:08:24for something he's not feeling and try to tough something out, um, and, and, uh, and,
00:08:29and, and, and exacerbated or make it worse.
00:08:31So again, we'll move on because we don't know anything and there's no reason to, uh, to,
00:08:36uh, fear the worst, but it is definitely something that I don't think it's ever going away.
00:08:42You're always going to worry about it.
00:08:44You're always going to think that you're always going to feel it.
00:08:45So we'll see what happens here as for the game itself, as you said, um, and again, going
00:08:51back to, you know, bigger staffs comments prior to the Detroit game before the lack
00:08:57of selfishness on this team, again, is, is, is, is constantly on display.
00:09:01I really do think, and I'm glad, I'm glad it was said, and I'm glad it was discussed.
00:09:07I would say if there was anything that concerned anybody about this team last year was how
00:09:12are they going to share it?
00:09:13How's that going to work?
00:09:15You know, are they going to accept less?
00:09:17Are they going to be able to do that?
00:09:18And they did, but still at the end of the day, Tatum got his shots up.
00:09:22Brown got his shots up.
00:09:24They didn't sacrifice that much, really.
00:09:26Uh, maybe if anybody did, it was holiday.
00:09:29But for the most part, people that may, or Porzingis, who's maybe used to being more
00:09:34of an alpha on the teams that he was on, but those guys came in, the guys who were here
00:09:39didn't have to seed too much.
00:09:41Now it legit feels like I don't think anybody, and Brown's always a guy who we were a little,
00:09:47some people were concerned with, like, is this guy worried about putting up a stats
00:09:51to get his all-stars, to get his contract, to get where he wants to be, to get his awards
00:09:56or his acclaim at the end of the year?
00:09:58Is the chip on the shoulder going to drive him?
00:09:59Or the point is he's got to kind of get his to feel comfortable.
00:10:03And I think he might care less than anybody now about numbers or stats.
00:10:07I mean, this was a, I don't care.
00:10:09I don't think he cared if he scored a point tonight in this game.
00:10:12And you see a lot of that from him.
00:10:14You're seeing it from Tatum.
00:10:16I don't think anybody cares at all.
00:10:18I think they're almost addicted to the process of like, how can we just get everybody something
00:10:25or just keep getting all of these open threes and break the NBA the way that we have right
00:10:29now?
00:10:30And they just keep doing it.
00:10:31Yeah.
00:10:32I mean, you're absolutely right.
00:10:33I just wrote a story about this for SB Nation, but I think we only watch this team, this
00:10:37Celtics team, for the most part.
00:10:38I mean, we watch league pass and things, but night in, night out, we're covering this team.
00:10:42And so to be honest with you, I don't, I wasn't thinking about this team is so unselfish
00:10:47every time I watch, because this is the basketball I'm used to watching and covering.
00:10:50And then I noticed every coach that comes into TD Garden where we have our postgame
00:10:54presser, they find a way at some point to say, this team is so unselfish.
00:10:59Like this was not how they were a few years ago.
00:11:01The ball movement is crazy.
00:11:02Like, it's really hard to prepare for because you don't know who's going to hurt you.
00:11:04It's like, that is the thing.
00:11:05That is the word around the league, around these Celtics, is that you just don't know
00:11:09who's going to hurt you.
00:11:10They know they're going to pass to Drew Peterson in the corner.
00:11:12To Xavier Tillman.
00:11:13Like there's full faith and trust in everybody and it's not hinging on, you know, are you
00:11:17an all-star?
00:11:18Are you Tatum?
00:11:19Are you Brown?
00:11:20I think that's even more of the thing than just they're willing to pass, is the fact
00:11:22that they actually have faith in literally the entire roster and that's just like part
00:11:26of the culture.
00:11:27And I went back and looked, like Doc Rivers said similar things, Eric Spolstra said similar
00:11:31things, guys that have been around and they've covered, they've, you know, competed against
00:11:35a lot of basketball teams.
00:11:37This team really stands out.
00:11:38And I think that tonight was a perfect example of what that looks like in full function is
00:11:42just when everybody's, everybody's hitting shots, everybody's getting looks, nobody's
00:11:46forcing theirs.
00:11:47And I do think Jalen Brown, I don't know if it's the finals MVP from last year, I would
00:11:50imagine you got the highest individual accolade in basketball in my eyes, maybe it took a
00:11:54little bit of a load off.
00:11:55You're not as worried about proving yourself.
00:11:58But certainly I think you, you see that from him as much as anybody right now.
00:12:02It is weird.
00:12:03I do think Jalen feels like he got in the club last year, you know where he was always
00:12:08kind of like just on the outside looking in.
00:12:11And again, he still doesn't make all NBA last year.
00:12:13So he's not, he's still knocking on that door of like, I know he wants to just be a set
00:12:17it and forget it, perennial all NBA type player, all-star, all-star berths, automatic.
00:12:22You know, you know that he's going every single year and then not have to really concern himself
00:12:26with it at that point.
00:12:27And then just let his play speak for itself.
00:12:29I think in everybody's eyes, reputationally, he's now clicked over into that group.
00:12:34I do even see all of these preseason rankings about like best NBA players and this and that.
00:12:39And I, he didn't fall below, you know, on most of them.
00:12:42I know, I know, uh, Hardwood, uh, they had a weird list where somebody put him at 40
00:12:48something, but for the most part, everyone's got in their mind has Jalen as a top 15 player
00:12:52now.
00:12:53And that's just kind of where he lives.
00:12:54So yeah, maybe he did care less and maybe they are kind of addicted to, um, you know,
00:13:01like let's just do this again.
00:13:02This is fun.
00:13:03It's fun.
00:13:04Watching teams get frustrated.
00:13:05And like, it is kind of, it is a beautiful thing watching this team play basketball when
00:13:09they decide like, all right, let's do the thing where we, where we put the team away
00:13:13and just watch them work it and work it.
00:13:15And I, I, I feel like there's more instances of them going through the process and believing
00:13:20in the process than just finding your matchup, uh, and, and give it to a guy and, and just
00:13:27let, let, let, let him, let him cook.
00:13:29I think even in games that they'd lost, which was the, which is the last I'm thinking of
00:13:33most recently.
00:13:35I still think they went, I still think they went through their process there and they
00:13:43just didn't hit the shots and they were tired legs on the second night of a back-to-back
00:13:46on that one too, but they did not, they went through, they went through all of their steps
00:13:50there.
00:13:51The shots just didn't fall.
00:13:52I think they've gotten really, really good at doing that, which is great.
00:13:54Cause I think that's one of the things that, you know, uh, any naysayers or, or fans who
00:13:59are frustrated with inconsistent play, we're clamoring about, uh, them doing is just do
00:14:03the thing you do, move it, do the thing that works.
00:14:06I, and I, I think like, it seems like there's just no hangover concern off of the championship.
00:14:13And again, it makes it so much easier for them to half-ass their way through games like
00:14:16this, not saying they did, but they can because they can flip a switch.
00:14:21That's what's amazing is they just, all right, let's just do the thing where we just move
00:14:25it around.
00:14:26And then these guys get these guys in rotation and we'll just get our shots and that's that.
00:14:28And they just, they do it every game.
00:14:30Yeah, they really do.
00:14:32And it is, it's honestly really fun to watch.
00:14:33I know there's a lot of discourse around the NBA right now and whether the NBA is on, is
00:14:37fun to watch or why the ratings are down.
00:14:39And part of my, part of the reason why I like have a hard time with this conversation is
00:14:43because the team that I cover is really fun to watch like a night in and night out.
00:14:46And I think that, you know, other teams are trying to emulate that, but we've heard coaches
00:14:50say like, that is not what you're seeing around the league, believe it or not.
00:14:53I know we have bigger staff on it, but that is, that is kind of the, the, the takeaway
00:14:57from people when they're watching this team is that it really stands out in comparison
00:15:00to other teams.
00:15:01And you see other teams like almost do a poor man's version of it.
00:15:04But you're, when you're, when you're doing a poor man's version of it, it's not, it's
00:15:07not it.
00:15:08It's completely different.
00:15:09That's like everything, right?
00:15:10It doesn't matter the sport.
00:15:12You see somebody do something and you want a piece of it in the NFL, you know, there's
00:15:16certain types of offenses that people want to emulate and you get cheap imitators that
00:15:20do it poorly and look bad in the process.
00:15:24And that's, what's currently happening in the NBA to a lesser extent, Noah, the Brad
00:15:28Stevens teams before they loaded up.
00:15:31And those like even the Isaiah Thomas teams, they wanted to play a style where they were
00:15:36getting guys open and shooting threes and this, and these didn't have the shooters,
00:15:39but they've always dreamt.
00:15:40They always had this vision of spread the floor, drive and kick, take a bunch of open
00:15:46threes.
00:15:47That's what we should do.
00:15:48We should take it on to another level, but you need the personnel.
00:15:51You need a coach with that vision who drives at home and you need total buy-in having all
00:15:55three of those things is extremely difficult.
00:15:58And again, some teams might have it, but you've got guys, I mean, the Celtics are just the,
00:16:03the rarest of rare where everyone on the floor can shoot and defend.
00:16:08And that's what everybody's looking for.
00:16:09They just have it.
00:16:10Unless you have that, you can't do it because you're going to get beat up in one place or
00:16:15another.
00:16:16If you guys can't shoot great, well, they'll, they'll concede the threes and you can take
00:16:21them and you're just going to break them all game long.
00:16:23If you guys who can shoot and do nothing else, you're just going to get eaten alive on the
00:16:26other end.
00:16:27So it's really, really, really difficult to be the Celtics because they have these guys
00:16:31who can do all of it all the time.
00:16:33Yeah.
00:16:34I mean, I think the personnel is the main thing.
00:16:36And Scott had a couple of funny lines tonight where Brian Keith was like furious calling
00:16:40a timeout.
00:16:41And he was like, it's not your fault, Brian, like you don't have the people, you don't
00:16:43have the personnel for it.
00:16:46And certainly Joe has said, Joe has spoken to this, that Joe was asked if he was, Joe
00:16:50was asked if he was, you know, worried about other teams emulating the Celtics.
00:16:55And he said, you know, you need to have the personnel for it too.
00:16:58So it's not just the philosophy.
00:16:59I think everybody in the world, the coaches of the basketball team knows that, you know,
00:17:05this is the way to do it.
00:17:06That you want to get open threes, you want to get layups, like the WNBA is moving in
00:17:09the same direction.
00:17:10But it's one thing to have figured out the formula, it's another thing to be able to
00:17:12actually execute it.
00:17:13And I think we're seeing the intersection of both those teams, maybe one of the earlier
00:17:16teams to figure out exactly how to do it.
00:17:18But also, yeah, the entire roster really kind of fits the mold perfectly there.
00:17:23Yeah.
00:17:24And we will hear from Bobby in a little bit.
00:17:27He is in Washington.
00:17:28There's no Jimmy or Sherrod.
00:17:30And I hope that doesn't upset you guys out there.
00:17:33But we are going to get reports from Bobby and there is a report from Porzingis from
00:17:39the locker room, which is good.
00:17:41So I apologize for the panic.
00:17:43I'm sorry.
00:17:44It's just in my nature.
00:17:45I can't help it.
00:17:46But as we said earlier, Porzingis exited the game in the second quarter with right heel
00:17:51pain.
00:17:52Porzingis telling reporters himself that he banged it, banged it, which is better than
00:17:57just pulling up and feeling something back there, which is the scary thing when it comes
00:18:02to heel or Achilles or this or that.
00:18:05And I think that jives a little bit more with the reporting that was going on there, which
00:18:10is like he was grabbing his foot like you might do if and when you don't really grab
00:18:15a sprained ankle and like rub it and stuff.
00:18:17So like if you're grabbing at the area, it might have been a tenderness.
00:18:20He said he banged it, which is good.
00:18:23And Porzingis says that the exit was entirely precautionary.
00:18:27Not sure if he will miss time yet, but that's that.
00:18:30So again, a contact injury, a bruise, banging it so much better than feeling something back
00:18:37there and having to come off as a result of it.
00:18:39So I think we can breathe a little bit of sigh of relief and I'm sorry for anyone I
00:18:42upset or alarmed at the beginning of the show.
00:18:46Yeah.
00:18:47So, so, so, so, so that.
00:18:51But yeah, back onto it.
00:18:52Where were we right before Porzingis?
00:18:53Sorry.
00:18:54I agree, Ben.
00:18:55Oh my God.
00:18:56How it's really hard to emulate the Celtics.
00:18:57Oh yeah.
00:18:58You can't do it.
00:18:59And and that's that.
00:19:00And that's what we're seeing.
00:19:01Like we saw.
00:19:02So this is going to like set NBA.
00:19:04And goodness, this stuff happens on the heading into a weekend, you know, because it keeps
00:19:09the talking heads from like just going into it.
00:19:14But between this, between the Celtics, you know, and people saying they need to change
00:19:18the rules because it's boring and between, and then watching teams do this, you know,
00:19:24missing 75 threes in regulation.
00:19:28And then, you know, you have a 42, 41 game in the cup, you know, at the halftime of the,
00:19:33of the cup and this and that.
00:19:35And then now the rating stories regarding the NBA and they're plummeting.
00:19:39It is crazy.
00:19:40I normally, I think people who cover basketball are just a little bit too defensive about
00:19:45things.
00:19:47Really everyone, every fan base, a lot of reporters.
00:19:49I think everyone's really defensive, but I will say I'm going all the way over to the
00:19:53other side on this.
00:19:54I've never seen a sport where the people who cover it seem to want to bury it as much as
00:19:59they do the NBA.
00:20:00It's freaking insane.
00:20:01I completely agree.
00:20:02I, it is so weird to me because like the NFL has changed a ton in many cases for the worst
00:20:12in terms of like the product, because they're trying to protect people trying to avoid lawsuits,
00:20:17trying to keep it going a little bit longer.
00:20:19They don't want people getting head injuries or this and that they don't want people getting
00:20:22tuned up.
00:20:23So big hits.
00:20:24And a lot of the stuff that people used to love with football is fine.
00:20:27Hockey's been regulated in the same sort of way where they're trying to reduce fighting
00:20:30and X, Y, and Z.
00:20:31And that's for safety issues.
00:20:33And some people really love that and they miss the old school way of things, but people
00:20:37just kind of roll on with it as a reality of the game here.
00:20:41It's insane how many people out there from the old heads were like in mind, these guys
00:20:45aren't tough or talking about like the, how it was, the talent is off the charts here
00:20:52at this point in the NBA.
00:20:54It's so freaking good right now.
00:20:56And yeah, the Celtics might've broken it a little bit with the threes because it might
00:21:01be a little bit too much.
00:21:03And I understand not loving the way that it's going, but it's crazy to me how much, like
00:21:08how bad, like how, like how much you want to want to want to bury the product.
00:21:18I mean, again, this is such a tough conversation.
00:21:20A lot of parody too.
00:21:21Yeah.
00:21:22I love watching the NBA more than anything.
00:21:24That's why I wanted it to be my job.
00:21:26So it's hard for me to like, wrap, you know, reason with people, but also we've never seen
00:21:30more talent.
00:21:31We know that.
00:21:32And a lot of times I'm like, what do people want?
00:21:34Because I also cover the WNBA.
00:21:35People are mad whenever the WNBA is like, you know, a lot of people are taking post
00:21:39shots and hook shots and it's, it's completely what they want in theory, as far as like just
00:21:44different types of shots.
00:21:45And then you get low lights of like Miss layups, you got low lights of Miss threes, but in
00:21:49reality, like field goal percentages have never been higher.
00:21:52So it's, it's not really like, we're not going down.
00:21:54I go back and watch games from my childhood where it's like the 2010 finals, like nobody
00:21:58can make one shot.
00:21:59Um, and we love that.
00:22:00Right.
00:22:01So I don't know what people want.
00:22:02I do think that social media has made it so that you don't have to watch the games.
00:22:07Everybody I know watches clips on social media.
00:22:09They stream on illegally.
00:22:10Like, I don't know anybody that like has cable and watches full basketball games.
00:22:14So I think it's just, it's different now, the way that you're consumed differently.
00:22:17Yeah.
00:22:18And maybe we need to rethink like from a profit standpoint, like I, that's not my thing, but
00:22:22I think that there is a conversation to be had there, but if you're tuning into these
00:22:25games on a regular basis, like the actual basketball is as good as it's been.
00:22:29The conversations around it is, I think has been pretty bad and there's a lot of great
00:22:33teams that have gotten no coverage and I'm glad they're not national media, but I think
00:22:37national media is way too focused on a handful of stars, a handful of missing an opportunity
00:22:42to be really excited about a bunch of players.
00:22:44That's the thing.
00:22:45And look, I mean, and again, that's why the WNBA is big now because you've got your star,
00:22:50you've got the star now that you can focus on.
00:22:52ESPN really destroyed, destroyed things.
00:22:54I hate being the, I find it trite to like heap on ESPN because like I have no problem
00:23:01with strong takes, strong opinion, even hot takes.
00:23:05Honestly, I think, you know, sports discourse is as damaged by people who constantly apologize
00:23:13for their teams and refuse to let in any criticism or so concerned with the hot takers that they
00:23:19have to like go over the top in the other direction.
00:23:21I think that's as dangerous as people just spouting a bunch of shit because they want
00:23:25clicks over it.
00:23:26So I don't love the discourse necessarily on other sides, but the ESPN model of switching
00:23:30strictly to strictly to star based coverage is all that matters to them.
00:23:37And when they're not getting it, you see a person like Jason Tatum, who's a near perfect
00:23:41player.
00:23:42And it's like, I don't know.
00:23:43I don't, you know, I don't think he's all that.
00:23:46And, you know, I, Luca's bad, like all of this stuff.
00:23:49They really are just.
00:23:50I mean, it wasn't for clicks.
00:23:54People legit talked themselves into Dallas beating Boston last year, which was the dumbest
00:24:00prediction anyone's made in any sport ever because Luca and Kyrie are more exciting to
00:24:06watch than Tatum and Brown in their eyes.
00:24:08And so they're like, how are they going to deal with these guys?
00:24:11Easily is the answer.
00:24:12Easily.
00:24:13Like they have everybody else.
00:24:14Are you crazy?
00:24:15People believe that they have actually like they've wired themselves to believe this stuff.
00:24:21It's insane to me.
00:24:22Yeah.
00:24:23I mean, honestly, like, yeah, there's so many different things.
00:24:24We can do a whole show on just like the way that the sport is discussed.
00:24:27But I think the number one thing is that there's so many exciting young players and like middle
00:24:31age.
00:24:32I mean, like mid twenties players that people just don't know that well.
00:24:36Like what do you know about SGA?
00:24:37He's never anywhere.
00:24:38And he's, he's really fun to watch.
00:24:40He's actually a really interesting player and the Thunder are so exciting.
00:24:43I love watching the Thunder and the NBA should be like, this Thunder team is like, is like
00:24:47an easy layup.
00:24:48Like let's put them everywhere.
00:24:51I know people will have their mixed feelings on their postgame thing that they all do their
00:24:53interviews together, but it's objectively, it's entertaining.
00:24:56They have a lot of big personalities in that group of why they haven't been elevated as
00:25:00the next big thing to watch when they've had back-to-back seasons is the number one season
00:25:03in the West.
00:25:04I don't know.
00:25:05So there's a lot of, you know, I would, I understand the frustration of other fan bases
00:25:08when it comes to, I agree, but I haven't really seen a lot of, you know, frustration when
00:25:13it comes to other fan bases being like, my team is not being elevated because they're
00:25:16and it's going to hurt the league because they're riding the coattails of like LeBron
00:25:19and Steph, who I understand why they were, why they were the big deal for so many years,
00:25:23but eventually you have to move on to the next thing.
00:25:24I think they're just doing it too slowly.
00:25:25So NBA will be okay.
00:25:26But I do think that this, this has been a bad adjustment between like the different
00:25:30eras and a lack of opportunity, a lack of coverage on guys that could be really, really
00:25:34popular.
00:25:35Yeah.
00:25:36SGA again, the obscurity of OKC, maybe it's like people don't find the mid range game
00:25:40sexy.
00:25:41That's what they want though.
00:25:42They're all mad about the threes.
00:25:43I love it.
00:25:44That's the best thing about it.
00:25:45Watch him.
00:25:46He doesn't shoot threes.
00:25:47He doesn't shoot threes, not at volume and not at a super high clip.
00:25:51He's just dazzling with his handles and he breaks people down and he's pulling up for
00:25:55these mid-race jumpers or going to the basket.
00:25:57He plays defense.
00:25:58He's, he's almost a perfect player also.
00:26:00He's amazing to watch.
00:26:02So it is weird.
00:26:03But again, I, people can't get down with that.
00:26:05They're an amazing team.
00:26:06I mean, we can do an entire other show about where they stack up to Boston.
00:26:11Cause I mean, last year it was the Celtics and then everyone else down here.
00:26:15And I don't care who you were in the West.
00:26:17Holy crap is okay.
00:26:18See good.
00:26:19And they're playing without, without Chet right now.
00:26:21So yeah, it might be the lack of American stars.
00:26:25Like they don't, no doubt.
00:26:27I don't know.
00:26:28I don't know.
00:26:29Not American just because he's Canadian.
00:26:30Cause he's kind of American, like Canadians, like American, he's American light.
00:26:34It's not like, but it's not like somebody from like far away land, you know?
00:26:37Like I don't think he's on the Canadian nationals.
00:26:39I know.
00:26:40I know.
00:26:41I know.
00:26:42But I don't think that matters.
00:26:43I think people like if you didn't, he went to an American college, he's, he's here.
00:26:46He's a product of USA basketball, you know, like, but he plays for Canada.
00:26:50Huh?
00:26:51I understand.
00:26:52I understand.
00:26:53Yeah.
00:26:54Yeah.
00:26:55So like, I don't think that, but you're right.
00:26:56If you go through the best players in the league, the international from, you know,
00:26:58where you're starting with Yoko Janish, Luca and SGA and Embiid prior to this year would
00:27:04have been in that clear top five conversation.
00:27:06Everyone else you're, you're, you're like, who's the best American star.
00:27:09And it's like Tatum and Edwards and people aren't like fully on board with those guys
00:27:12as being the guys yet.
00:27:14So it's possible, but it is an interesting story.
00:27:17You know, because I don't know what changes here with that.
00:27:21We do have the Chris S Porzingis sound.
00:27:23I think people will be heartened not only to hear it, but to see his smiling face.
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00:29:39Let's bring it back to the game.
00:29:42And as we did say, Chris Daps Porzingis left the game in the second quarter, it was announced
00:29:47that it was a heel injury.
00:29:49He says the exit was precautionary and all he did was bang his heel, which is great.
00:29:54And here is Chris Daps talking about it after the game to our own Bobby Manning.
00:29:58Did you feel anything before you came out of the game there in the second quarter and
00:30:02what led you to go to the locker room?
00:30:03Yeah, I banged up my heel a little bit in the first quarter early, not early, like in
00:30:09the first quarter at some point.
00:30:10I kept on playing, nothing major honestly, more like a precautionary thing.
00:30:15And then like second when I started, it was pretty sensitive, so I told medical staff
00:30:21and they just pulled me out of the game, I don't think it's anything major.
00:30:25Had you felt anything before this game?
00:30:28No, no, no, I don't think it happened this game.
00:30:30One of the post-ups or rebounds or one of the lobs, I'm not even sure where, but I've
00:30:35had something similar in the past.
00:30:37I know it's something you play through and it's just a little bit precautionary today.
00:30:44Love to hear it, don't play through it though.
00:30:46Don't do anything.
00:30:48Take as much time as you need, big guy.
00:30:50But again, good.
00:30:51Do you feel better?
00:30:53Yeah, I mean, again, I wasn't concerned about this particular injury.
00:30:56I'm still concerned about the pattern.
00:30:58But yeah, this doesn't seem like a big deal.
00:30:59I think if Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and Drew Holliday were monitored the way that
00:31:04Porzingis is, they would miss a lot of games.
00:31:06They'd be in a lot more headlines.
00:31:08So it's hard.
00:31:08A lot of it is just because we know that there have been times where it's been serious, but
00:31:12it's probably, we also know literally every time he gets banged, so that's part of the
00:31:16issue.
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00:32:07As for the game, going back to it, I'll let you talk about them while we wait, while we
00:32:12wait for Bobby to come in, because it never gets super old, um, talking about Peyton Pritchard.
00:32:19But what I like, um, specifically about Pritchard, these last couple of games is we were all
00:32:26over Pritchard again, because he had gone something like 20, something, 20, something,
00:32:3220, something, a bunch of games in a row.
00:32:35Uh, and then he drops that goose egg against Milwaukee and everyone's like, Oh, you know,
00:32:40did he turn back into a pumpkin?
00:32:43I'm not saying that.
00:32:44Just come on.
00:32:45It's just, let me build the, let me, let me build, let me build the story.
00:32:50And everyone was concerned that Pritchard was back to, you know, Oh, I remember that
00:32:57guy.
00:32:57The guy who was too small to get his shot off the guy who, you know, withers against
00:33:02really good defense or pressure when he's thrust into a starting lineup.
00:33:06Uh, there he is again.
00:33:08Everyone was thinking it, Noah.
00:33:09But since that game, he went 22 on seven and 12 shooting 27 last game against Detroit,
00:33:15the jail and prophecy game and knocks down another five, three pointers tonight on five
00:33:19of 12 shooting.
00:33:20I honestly felt like he had more points, but then he chips in 11 and six, this guy, uh,
00:33:26today.
00:33:27So all over the stat line.
00:33:28And again, I know you saw it on the broadcast and I bet you loved it.
00:33:32Him coming off the floor when he was mouthing, uh, that he was locking up Jordan pool.
00:33:37It's the swagger he's playing with, which is awesome.
00:33:40Right?
00:33:40Like he's not like, it can feel for a little while.
00:33:43Like we would talk about Lynn sanity as a possible thing to talk about there, but you
00:33:47always felt like that was fleeting.
00:33:49Right?
00:33:49Like maybe like, is this going to last forever?
00:33:52Like the Pritchard thing that is always my concern is, is at some point, does he kind
00:33:57of revert back?
00:33:58Does it, do we not live in this dreamland anymore where he's doing this on a regular
00:34:03basis?
00:34:04But I don't think he's going to allow it.
00:34:06The level of swagger that he's playing with is totally like a guy who absolutely should
00:34:10be doing this on a nightly basis.
00:34:12Not a guy who's just on a, on a heater.
00:34:16Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:34:17I don't think this is related to being a heater anymore.
00:34:19Honestly.
00:34:20I think that we've talked about the scoring.
00:34:22We've talked about the shooting.
00:34:23The other things are what has been most impressive.
00:34:26I don't want to sound like Joe Missoula over here, but it really is like defensively, he
00:34:30has not been a liability this season.
00:34:33I think this guy's new.
00:34:36He doesn't know me yet.
00:34:37I'm just, it's my way.
00:34:39I'm just playing guys.
00:34:40Come on, go ahead.
00:34:42I mean, there was a little bit of concern, I think for people, but the defense has been
00:34:46so improved.
00:34:47You know, he talks about it all the time that he wants to be a two way player, the full
00:34:51court ball pressure.
00:34:52He's in incredible shape.
00:34:53He's an incredibly hard worker.
00:34:54All we hear about is how hard of a worker he is and what a tone that sets for everybody
00:34:58else.
00:34:58So there's that.
00:34:59And then the playmaking, I mean, he had one of the best assist to turnover ratios last
00:35:03year in limited minutes.
00:35:04Because he doesn't turn it over.
00:35:05Yeah, he really doesn't.
00:35:06I mean, he had three to nine, but generally speaking, he has one of the best assist to
00:35:09turnover ratios of any high usage guard in the NBA.
00:35:12I think he's second on the team after Derek White, who has been very effective in that
00:35:16way as well.
00:35:17So it's just, it's the all around play.
00:35:19I mean, 11 rebounds in his size is ridiculous.
00:35:21It really is.
00:35:22And it's just, it's just, some of it is hustle.
00:35:24Some of it is hard, but then a lot of it is also technique that he's just figured out
00:35:27at this point.
00:35:28So I think we're just seeing a guy who's hitting his prime and everything is kind of
00:35:33clicking at the same time.
00:35:34And it is, it is, I know I talk about all the time, but it is kind of the big story
00:35:37of this team because everybody else is pretty much who they were last year.
00:35:41And so this is the big difference.
00:35:42This is the big change from last season.
00:35:44And if it's sustainable to the playoffs, then we're talking about something that could
00:35:47change the team for the next few years.
00:35:49Exactly.
00:35:50That's the thing is like, you know, we talk about, we've mentioned it with Keita has found
00:35:54money and Keita is fine.
00:35:55He serves his role.
00:35:56But if you were able to get any contributions out of him, that's something you didn't
00:35:59expect.
00:36:00But again, I I've said this openly.
00:36:04This is the story of the season clearly because it's, you looked at this roster and thought
00:36:11they're set.
00:36:12Right.
00:36:12And if, you know, the Jays are pretty fully baked at this point, you know, like might
00:36:18they get, might they get a little better, more savvy?
00:36:20Sure.
00:36:21But also, you know, they're in, they're well in their prime right now.
00:36:25They are who they are.
00:36:26And that's great.
00:36:28And Porzingis is, and Holiday is, and Derek White, we already saw him, you know, go up
00:36:33and let the story of last year was Derek.
00:36:34I mean, it was everybody, but Derek White was a massive story last year because he's
00:36:38playing at a legit all-star level this year.
00:36:40It's absolutely pritchard for all of the reasons you stated is you just added a new player,
00:36:47essentially someone who didn't exist before to a team.
00:36:50It's that joke.
00:36:51Like, what do you get for the girl?
00:36:52What do you get for the guy who's got everything?
00:36:54Like apparently this, like, and it's almost that it's an embarrassment of riches at this
00:36:59point.
00:36:59And it's strange to think we're going to bring in Bobby here who's hanging out.
00:37:03What's up, Bobby?
00:37:04Just got out of the locker room where we're talking about Pritchard because Noah just
00:37:08wouldn't let it go.
00:37:10And it was like, come on, can we talk about Pritchard before Bobby gets here and starts
00:37:14talking about Luke?
00:37:14And I said, fine.
00:37:16But I want to ask you, you got out of the locker room, you were asking Porzingis the
00:37:20questions.
00:37:22We dodged a bullet, right?
00:37:25Yeah, seems like.
00:37:26And we'll see if he needs some time off here.
00:37:29He always seems to lean on the side of I'm going to be all right.
00:37:32I'm going to play.
00:37:33And the team obviously looking at tonight goes in a more cautious direction with him.
00:37:38But they have a bunch of days off coming up here until Thursday.
00:37:42So I do think it's feasible that he could play the next game after some treatment there,
00:37:45just like after the last injury where there was four days off.
00:37:49But he said he's dealt with something like this before happened in the first quarter.
00:37:52So he was able to play through it for probably about a quarter up until there was three minutes
00:37:56left in the second.
00:37:57And then once he told the training staff that it was getting sensitive there, that's when
00:38:01they pulled him out because nothing happened right before he left, which is why I was asking
00:38:06you, did you see anything there?
00:38:07Because there was nothing.
00:38:08He went to the bench and sat down and grabbed it for a second and then he was out of there.
00:38:12So it did affect them.
00:38:13I felt like obviously no out tonight.
00:38:15Luke had to play like seven minutes to start the third and the Wizards were running.
00:38:20And that's what they've done in every game here is really push the pace and challenge
00:38:23the Celtics in that area.
00:38:25So second quarter looked a little sloppy.
00:38:27They didn't have that outlet in Porzingis there.
00:38:29But fortunately, it doesn't look like they'll be missing him for too long here.
00:38:33It's just this is the story, right?
00:38:35We said he's not going to reinjure the surgery that he went through there, or at least there
00:38:40doesn't seem to be any concern about that.
00:38:42But is the next thing always right around the corner with him?
00:38:45And this is obviously completely different on the opposite foot.
00:38:48Yeah, that's what we talked about beforehand, Bobby, is that that that's that that fear
00:38:54is never going away, right?
00:38:57No, it is just always something.
00:39:00And it doesn't even seem to be anything that he's doing wrong or their management of them.
00:39:06And it's funny, he got hurt in the game that they were resting out last week.
00:39:10And then tonight they rest out and Porzingis gets hurt again.
00:39:13So they're trying to manage those two.
00:39:14See what he's doing down the last two nights.
00:39:17You see what he's doing here, right?
00:39:19I'm not sure.
00:39:20I'm not.
00:39:20You see what he's setting up right now?
00:39:24It's where the show was headed, John.
00:39:26It's where the show was set.
00:39:26We haven't even touched on it.
00:39:27It's pretty crafty.
00:39:29He knows what he's doing.
00:39:30Well, and so because you're already down a big Porzingis goes out and who comes in to
00:39:35save the day?
00:39:38Luke.
00:39:39Luke was great.
00:39:42Yeah, and he played those first seven minutes of the third.
00:39:46I feel like that's the longest he's ever played in a row because he came off the court,
00:39:49just drenched in sweat, exhausted.
00:39:51And again, it was an up and down game.
00:39:54And I don't think they thrived in that second half.
00:39:57Certainly offensively, the offense was not good after halftime, but they managed and
00:40:03defended well too.
00:40:04And, you know, Pritchard was just talking about like the Wizards take some crazy shots
00:40:07and they hit some of them.
00:40:09So you do have to deal with that unpredictability a little bit.
00:40:13It's funny, John, this team's awful.
00:40:16But they haven't looked like it against the Celtics.
00:40:18I mean, because the Celtics are playing with their food, you know, there, but they're
00:40:24pretty awful.
00:40:25I mean, I know Poole's had a bit of a resurgent and, you know, Bilal has been pretty, pretty
00:40:30good too.
00:40:31So like they have some things, but they also have three wins.
00:40:34I'm not exactly sure what it is that, you know, that that Sar is trying to do.
00:40:41No, he's all over the place.
00:40:43He's, he's all over the place, man.
00:40:46No matter what they, they, they, they target him on defense.
00:40:48They let him shoot what he's like, by all means, take the three.
00:40:52Like, I don't know what it is that he does or what they want him to do.
00:40:57He's a, he's a real mess.
00:41:01Yeah, it's not pretty, especially all those spin moves inside.
00:41:04And Porzingis is just standing there watching him.
00:41:06He's just like baffling.
00:41:10Yeah.
00:41:11Yeah.
00:41:12But I do think, and I wrote about this tonight.
00:41:15I do think even though this team has no chance of laying a finger on the Celtics, I do think
00:41:20they try to play the way that bothers the Celtics a little bit.
00:41:23And Joe talked about this before the game and a little bit in the week before is that
00:41:27that Memphis game pace wise affected the Celtics a little bit.
00:41:32I think they gave up 41, he said in transition in that game and a lot of it, he blamed on
00:41:38Boston's turnovers and they turned the ball over a little bit tonight again.
00:41:41I don't know what they finished with, but they were at 12 in the third quarter.
00:41:44But it's 18.
00:41:45Yeah.
00:41:45So he doesn't like where the turnovers are going.
00:41:48And I think that's bleeding into their transition defense, which hasn't been great at times
00:41:54this year.
00:41:54I looked it up their third and allowing fast break points per game.
00:41:57So it's pretty good as with a lot of their ratings.
00:42:00But you've talked about this in the past, John, like faster guards, a team that wants
00:42:06to play quick, Indiana.
00:42:08You remember that series, obviously, that's something that can at least make the Celtics
00:42:13adjust a little bit.
00:42:15And they like playing fast too.
00:42:17But when you start playing up and down against Boston, I do think they can be prone to turn
00:42:21it over a little bit more.
00:42:22I do think it can keep the game close for longer stretches.
00:42:25And obviously the Wizards aren't able to sustain clean basketball and actually keep the game
00:42:30close.
00:42:30But Memphis, they played fast.
00:42:32They spread the Celtics out and made it challenging on them.
00:42:35Indiana did that earlier this year, Chicago, a couple of games coming up against them.
00:42:39They were able to get a lot of threes up and play quick.
00:42:42I think that's going to be the formula for pushing the Celtics and who's actually able
00:42:46to execute it over the course of a series.
00:42:49There's probably like one or two teams that could do it, but that seems to be the formula.
00:42:53And I've noticed in every game they've played against the Wizards so far, Washington doesn't
00:42:57have the talent or consistency to be able to actually pull it off all game.
00:43:03But in every first quarter, they've actually played them tight by just getting downhill,
00:43:06playing fast, getting a lot of shots up and making the Celtics move.
00:43:11Yeah, yeah.
00:43:12I mean, that's the thing.
00:43:14That's where you're going to, you know, the teams that can do that to the Celtics, they
00:43:18can, they can speed them up.
00:43:20The guards that, you know, we've seen, you know, Holiday, you know, Holiday is similar
00:43:26to smart in terms of his defense.
00:43:28And you remember the thing that got us in trouble with Marcus was talking about him,
00:43:30you know, struggling to stay in front of quicker guards, which was correct.
00:43:34The Holiday has that too, you know, like he's a spectacular team defender positionally.
00:43:39He, you know, he always puts himself in the right place, but yeah, there's guys who can
00:43:43take them off the dribble.
00:43:43We've seen it happen a few times already this year.
00:43:46I know, you know, and some fans have expressed some concern over it, but that's going to
00:43:50happen.
00:43:50There's definitely some, some guys out there.
00:43:52You've seen White have tough days with, with, with, with certain people before.
00:43:57It's just kind of part of it.
00:43:58Like you can't do everything, uh, you know, spectacularly.
00:44:03Well, they do most of it, but that, that is always the team, the team that just goes,
00:44:08goes, goes.
00:44:09And if they're able to knock down their shots too, or if they're able to work and get the
00:44:13Celtics wrote, you know, rotation and knock down threes.
00:44:15Yeah.
00:44:16Those are the teams that might be able to, to hang with them.
00:44:18It was interesting.
00:44:19And Indiana didn't, Indiana did not shoot a lot of threes.
00:44:22They just kind of went Adam, you know, um, there.
00:44:25So yeah, there's some matchup.
00:44:27There's some teams that can match up with them a little bit, a little bit better, but
00:44:30you're right.
00:44:30Washington just can't sustain it for, they can't sustain it for 48.
00:44:34They could play a near perfect game for three and a half quarters and the Celtics can still
00:44:37find a way to win.
00:44:38And that's always the thing.
00:44:40Go ahead.
00:44:40No, I was just going to say like, you know, all of these really bad teams hang in there.
00:44:44I thought the same thing about Detroit last year, where all we heard about is how historically
00:44:47bad they were, but there's not as much overtime against them.
00:44:49Like it just, at the end of the day, you have NBA players that can get hot, that can, you
00:44:52know, are athletic, they can do good things.
00:44:54And so to me, like the Celtics really controlled this game for the most part, even though they
00:44:58had some lulls in the second half.
00:45:00And I don't feel like it was ever really in question.
00:45:02And that's kind of all you can expect against even the worst team in the league.
00:45:05Like that's just the way that it's going to go.
00:45:06I mean, they beat Denver, so they have the ability to string together a 48 minute game.
00:45:12I want to go back and watch that game.
00:45:13How the hell?
00:45:14I know.
00:45:14I didn't, I didn't see that game.
00:45:16I remember we were at the garden and Yoko was putting up crazy numbers, but so all of
00:45:19these teams are capable of beating anybody.
00:45:21But the reality is how they start by 20 for most of this one.
00:45:24And so it really wasn't, it wasn't much of a, a, a toss up.
00:45:29Yeah.
00:45:29I saw no Brogdon, no Kispert, no Kuzma coming into this one.
00:45:34I was like, Oh, at least we've got a quarter, but they have the worst net rating in NBA
00:45:38history, John.
00:45:40I don't know if you saw that.
00:45:42Bobby, I, when the show kicked off, I called for relegation.
00:45:46I don't think this team should be allowed to play.
00:45:48It doesn't feel like I'm really funny on the broadcast about them.
00:45:52Yeah.
00:45:53He had some good lines.
00:45:54You should take the bottom four teams and have them just put them in a league and let
00:45:58them only play each other 82 times every year.
00:46:02And one of them gets to come back into the league.
00:46:04Like you shouldn't be allowed to be this bad.
00:46:06This is so unprofessionally comically bad.
00:46:13This team, I just, how it just said this to a couple of people I talked to in the league.
00:46:17I'm like, do these teams realize that it's not the old lottery system where if you go
00:46:22all the way to the bottom, you have the best odds.
00:46:25I can feel like that's what it seems like they think is going to happen.
00:46:28If they're the worst team by far, they're going to have the best odds, but you don't
00:46:31anymore.
00:46:32I mean, the number one team last year.
00:46:35Yeah.
00:46:36Number one pick, right?
00:46:37Yeah.
00:46:37I mean, look, it's tougher, but yeah, I mean, there's a, it's less about being trying to
00:46:43be the worst.
00:46:43It's more about not trying to be good at all.
00:46:46Any good at all.
00:46:48And that annoys me.
00:46:49Obviously Brooklyn took a step in that direction too.
00:46:51And they were actually playing pretty competitive.
00:46:53Yeah.
00:46:53Until they got rid of Schroeder and now they're now that's it.
00:46:57They almost got rid of Cam Johnson too.
00:46:58It sounded like in that deal, which which would have been interesting.
00:47:01Yeah.
00:47:03Uh, so I don't know, um, as far as this game goes, other, other thoughts here.
00:47:07And we did talk up Richard a little bit.
00:47:10Um, and obviously Luke came in and had made his impact Tatum quietly.
00:47:16Did this, um, again, he missed some shots bad early too.
00:47:22And he got together.
00:47:23Yeah.
00:47:24So, you know, that was that, you know, Jalen, as we said, I was going to flag one thing,
00:47:29John, I think we were Sam Houser's injury from last week.
00:47:32I thought he was going to be out for a little bit of time.
00:47:34Looked great in practice.
00:47:36The other day was getting up shots.
00:47:37Thought he looked really good tonight.
00:47:38So that's a good sign.
00:47:39And we've talked about how important he is to this team, especially in the regular season,
00:47:42but just providing backup depth.
00:47:44I thought he looked like he hadn't really missed much of a beat and that was looking
00:47:48before this injury too.
00:47:49So I'm glad that the time off didn't disrupt him too much because after the back, I felt
00:47:52like he came back and wasn't exactly the same and then was finally hitting a groove and
00:47:56then had that adductor strain.
00:47:57So that was a good, a good sign here.
00:48:00Yeah.
00:48:00Um, it is, uh, I didn't, I wouldn't have noticed a thing.
00:48:04I totally agree.
00:48:06He looked perfectly fine.
00:48:09Yeah.
00:48:10And again, that layoff great timing for him, for Zingas, all the guys who got hurt coming
00:48:16out of that Memphis game there.
00:48:17But, uh, it's, it's a bummer.
00:48:19He struggled to stay healthy this year.
00:48:21Still had the back thing on, uh, today, but look good.
00:48:24And they needed those shots.
00:48:26He and Pritchard gave them off the bench into the second unit after slow starts for Brown
00:48:29and Tatum.
00:48:29And we've seen that throughout the year.
00:48:30I mean, at this point, we're probably talking about like eight, nine, 10 games now, right?
00:48:34Where they're off to bad starts and then these guys come in and save them.
00:48:37So it's become important.
00:48:39Yeah.
00:48:40Um, a couple of things around the league.
00:48:42We mentioned, we mentioned it here, but, uh, Bobby's favorite player, Dennis Schroeder
00:48:46gets traded.
00:48:48Bobby refuses to acknowledge that Dennis Schroeder is pretty good at basketball.
00:48:52Uh, are you, are you anti Schroeder?
00:48:54Oh my God.
00:48:55I didn't like them here.
00:48:57Okay.
00:48:57Fair.
00:48:59Yeah.
00:48:59As, and I don't think I was always some other people on them, but John and I go back and
00:49:04forth on them where you and half of you and 90% of the Celtics media with your torches
00:49:11drove him out of town.
00:49:13You were so, and then like he was to blame for everything going wrong that season.
00:49:17And he was, he was one of the bright spots, uh, you know, while he was playing, he was,
00:49:22he saved them from themselves so often, but anyway, he had that crazy game against the
00:49:26bucks.
00:49:26I remember, but he didn't play a style that fit with what they were trying to build at
00:49:31that time.
00:49:32And I think that was the biggest problem.
00:49:34It was a good signing, good attempt at assigning there.
00:49:37That was amazing value at the time on the mid level.
00:49:40So I liked what they were going for.
00:49:43He had some good moments, right?
00:49:44But this is exactly right.
00:49:46And we talked about this on our chat.
00:49:49He was blamed for Marcus's shortcomings.
00:49:51He really was.
00:49:53Yeah.
00:49:53But he has the same shortcomings, different ones, different ones.
00:49:58I just, I love watching him.
00:50:00There has to be a way for him to be able to translate some of the greatness that he's
00:50:04had on the Germany team and bring that to an NBA team.
00:50:06Like there has to be a way watching him.
00:50:08Well, that was funny.
00:50:09Yeah.
00:50:10Cause Sean's when he was reporting this said, oh yeah.
00:50:13Stefan them and go on state.
00:50:14Love what they saw from them in Germany.
00:50:16Steve Kerr too, obviously.
00:50:18So like, is that what they're going off here?
00:50:20Cause yes, he's been great in those circumstances.
00:50:22He's had spurts of greatness in other spots in the NBA, but whether it's the
00:50:27ball-stopping tendencies or the shot that comes and goes, and he has, he has an okay
00:50:32defender, but he's more of a like quick hands, like take risks, get steals kind of
00:50:36defender than a sound one.
00:50:38I don't know how that's going to fit in out there.
00:50:40Like, remember when Paul was there and then, um, who was the other guy they had
00:50:43out there who didn't fit that great?
00:50:45Uh, Uber.
00:50:47Like, I feel like he's going to fit in like those guys did where they're good
00:50:49players, but they have a very unique system out there that I'm not sure how he's
00:50:54going to fit into other than just come off the bench and spell Curry, I guess.
00:50:58Yeah.
00:50:59It's also possible.
00:50:59They're going to flip him before he ever puts on a warrior's jersey.
00:51:02From what I've understood.
00:51:03Yeah.
00:51:04Really?
00:51:05Well, that's, that's what some of the report, this is not, these are not my sources.
00:51:08I think that's what some of the reports have said, um, is that they're, they're also
00:51:11looking at other free agent options.
00:51:14And I think there's a chance that he doesn't necessarily stay.
00:51:16Okay.
00:51:17I don't love his fit there.
00:51:18I'm a big, I'm a big Dennis Roeder fan.
00:51:19I don't love it either actually.
00:51:21Um, but I don't love that fit for him.
00:51:23Um, I guess I like to fit for him on a bad team.
00:51:25So maybe that's, maybe that's saying something.
00:51:28Yeah.
00:51:28Um, but we'll see.
00:51:30Yeah, we'll see.
00:51:31So that's a piece of news from around the NBA.
00:51:33Another thing I wanted to hit on.
00:51:34Uh, I will say real quick, if he goes to Miami for Butler, that whole thing makes more sense,
00:51:41right?
00:51:41Cause then Milton's not just going there with this tourney sale.
00:51:43Cause the heat want to keep winning by all accounts and shorter would make sense in Miami.
00:51:47Yeah.
00:51:48Speaking of keep winning, that's something that Sixers won't be doing.
00:51:51Um, Joel Embiid suffered a sinus fracture.
00:51:55He's out.
00:51:56Who knows how long Jared McCain torn meniscus out indefinitely.
00:52:00Um, so this doom season, uh, continues on there.
00:52:04There's almost nothing to say.
00:52:05I'm not like rooting for injuries.
00:52:07I just can't believe what a show it is.
00:52:12Yeah, it's shocking.
00:52:13I don't understand how it seems like certain franchises are so plagued by injuries,
00:52:17like the Pelicans and the 76ers that it just, is it just bad luck?
00:52:22Are there other factors?
00:52:23There feels like there has to be something in addition to the bad luck.
00:52:26I mean, the Embiid thing is freaky, right?
00:52:29Though.
00:52:29I mean, like that's, that's, that's a total bad luck thing, but him being injured all the time.
00:52:34This is a guy who almost didn't play a game in the NBA because of tricky foot,
00:52:38um, surgeries that he had there.
00:52:41Uh, you know, and big guys at his weight, like that's just an injury waiting to happen.
00:52:45So it's not super surprising that Embiid was suffering some of the other injuries.
00:52:50This one is definitely freaky and weird.
00:52:51And so is the McCain one.
00:52:53Yeah.
00:52:54McCain was so fun to watch.
00:52:55I'm bummed for him because I feel like he kind of had rookie of the year in the bag.
00:52:58Yeah.
00:52:5876ers fans that reporters that I know, like he was the one fun thing about the season.
00:53:03So super unfortunate.
00:53:05Yeah.
00:53:06Yeah.
00:53:06And he fell on his back slash head, which was the real concern there.
00:53:11So for it to be a torn meniscus coming out of that game was stunning.
00:53:15Who knows who's going to show up on Christmas?
00:53:17That's what I was thinking.
00:53:18Watching that game last night.
00:53:19Yep.
00:53:20And lastly, uh, you know, Bobby's in Washington because he can't be in Vegas
00:53:25watching the NBA cup final.
00:53:27So he had to go somewhere and he begged me, can I go to Washington?
00:53:30I was like, all right, Bobby, go.
00:53:31I love Washington, even though I don't love this game.
00:53:34He loves it.
00:53:35But, uh, bucks facing the thunder in the NBA could have been you.
00:53:40So this is a fun matchup.
00:53:41The bucks have completely flipped the script on their season and are playing good basketball.
00:53:46You know, we saw them here.
00:53:47Uh, and it was, you know, a definite competitive team that I do think again, Bobby, you know,
00:53:51I'm always kind of a pro bucks guy, even last year when they were struggling, like
00:53:55don't sleep on these guys.
00:53:56Um, and they're playing much, much better basketball here.
00:54:00And, uh, the thunder Noah was talking about it earlier are this super fun, exciting team,
00:54:05but yet it feels like, again, we, we saw the reports on the, uh, the secondary market listings
00:54:11on how easy it was to get tickets to the semifinal games out in Vegas.
00:54:16And there's concern that like, there's just not enough juice there without major market
00:54:19teams.
00:54:20And is the cup flailing around?
00:54:22And again, this on the heels of the NBA rating stories and this and that just more doom and
00:54:26gloom for stuff that the league isn't doing great.
00:54:28But here you are with these two teams in the cup finals.
00:54:32How do you feel the buzz around the cup is this year versus last?
00:54:35Has it, have they sustained it?
00:54:37Has it taken a step back?
00:54:38Uh, is it about the same?
00:54:40Noah, I think it went down.
00:54:42I mean, LeBron being involved last year was such a bonus for the league and the fact that
00:54:46he won, I thought that it was kind of setting them in a good path, like couldn't have scripted
00:54:50it better really.
00:54:51Um, and that there was a whole Tyrese Halliburton emergence again.
00:54:55I don't want to go back to my, I have to like really think this point through to see if
00:54:57I actually believe this, but I feel like last year with Halliburton, like there was so much
00:55:01excitement and energy around him.
00:55:02And there just isn't that league wide with this thunder team.
00:55:05And they're both small markets.
00:55:06The only difference is that it's an American superstar versus not.
00:55:09I don't want to, I don't, I don't want to go crazy up a buck 40 a game.
00:55:12So I think they, that, that, that, the pace that the offense was playing at, at that time
00:55:16was exciting for sure.
00:55:17Yeah.
00:55:17But I mean, people want defense and SGA and the thunder have the best defense and one
00:55:21of the best defenses in NBA history right now.
00:55:23So I don't know.
00:55:24I don't know what people want, but I don't feel there's a lot of excitement around this
00:55:27matchup or around the cup or around either of these teams.
00:55:31So hopefully it changes.
00:55:32I'm going to, I'm going to do my best to lock into this game on Tuesday and play my part
00:55:36because I feel like the media also has been a little bit down about the cup.
00:55:39And I, again, I have a lot of things that I think structurally could be different, but
00:55:43you got a good matchup here.
00:55:44These are two good teams.
00:55:45This could be a final preview.
00:55:46It's not my prediction for a finals preview, but I think that, yeah, I think everybody
00:55:50should be excited about the fact that two really good teams made the tournament with
00:55:53some high profile stars too.
00:55:57Yeah.
00:55:57The bucks game was great.
00:55:59Especially the honest block that was reminiscent of the finals one.
00:56:01And he's been going crazy through this entire run.
00:56:05The thunder, maybe the final will be that showcase for them to finally look like themselves.
00:56:09And they're not their full selves without chat right now.
00:56:12Still a great team, still getting some good performances across the board, particularly
00:56:16from heart and sign.
00:56:16So, you know, I would be watching them closely if you're a Celtics fan, because that finals
00:56:20matchup does feel inevitable right now, given the direction that they've gone in to start
00:56:24this year and talking about pace and athleticism and defense in their case, actually being
00:56:30one of the best defenses, if not the best defense in the league, they're that team that
00:56:34you're looking at, maybe the only team that could actually beat the Celtics this year.
00:56:37So I would watch for that.
00:56:39There's been a lot of moments I love throughout this cup, the Knicks night where the Celtics
00:56:42almost got in, I've talked about, and I like the Orlando Milwaukee game as well.
00:56:47And you have a good mix of teams here in this thing.
00:56:50The Houston Thunder game was tough to watch last night, the rock fight style that that
00:56:55one took on.
00:56:56But when you have like Orlando's, Houston's, and those kinds of teams in this thing with
00:57:01the Warriors made it and lost.
00:57:03And, you know, you're Milwaukee making it to the final, even though you're an older
00:57:08team that's already proven itself.
00:57:09I like the mix of teams that's been in it.
00:57:11I've enjoyed the games.
00:57:12The intensity has been good on these.
00:57:14And you know what?
00:57:16People just don't understand what it means.
00:57:18And that's going to take a while.
00:57:20I don't think there's any structural thing you can do about this matter.
00:57:23Yeah.
00:57:24The reality is it doesn't mean anything.
00:57:25And I think people understand that.
00:57:27So again, you, you got to catch lightning in the bottle.
00:57:29Like, like Noah said, LeBron being into it, the Pacers scoring 140 every night and being
00:57:35super entertaining the novelty of it.
00:57:37The first time through the fact that the players did have a little bit of buy-in.
00:57:41So you did feel that there was some juice and energy to it.
00:57:44I think it did take a big step back this year, just the whole way through.
00:57:48It just felt like it was just an afterthought.
00:57:51I don't know why that is because it's executed much the same way.
00:57:55I, the tiebreakers being goofy, a three in one team that lost a single game by a point,
00:58:02you know, not making it, it's just odd.
00:58:04Like you got to figure out a better way to do it.
00:58:07And I think that they're, they need to keep tinkering, but this definitely was weird.
00:58:11Really before we close, I wanted to go back to the game a little bit.
00:58:14We talked about Tatum's night and he was a little bit off, but another thing, you know,
00:58:20Hauser had that break with his injury.
00:58:23It was weird, right?
00:58:24To not see Jason Tatum for the length of time that he was out.
00:58:28It was an eight days that he's had off between games because when he is listed on every single
00:58:33time he's ever been listed as questionable on injury report, you know, that it's a bullshit
00:58:36injury and it's just kind of setting the table for potential load management.
00:58:41If that's what they choose to do.
00:58:42And it was actually surprising that he was out last game.
00:58:45Was it not to you too?
00:58:47That was like, Oh, is there actually an issue?
00:58:49And again, you see Tatum on the bench.
00:58:51He's got the double braces on and there's something going on there that he's definitely
00:58:56dealing with.
00:58:57Tatum talked about what's going on with his knee and, and some other stuff after the game.
00:59:02So let's listen to that real quick.
00:59:04Physically.
00:59:04And has that knee bothered you at all to begin this year?
00:59:08Feeling good.
00:59:09A couple of days off for sure.
00:59:12And it's just something that kind of comes and goes.
00:59:17Something I've dealt with before.
00:59:18How do you feel about where that shot's at and how you're feeling after you got a ball
00:59:24at all?
00:59:25I feel good.
00:59:28Soon the ball gets a little bit better than last season.
00:59:31I mean, I shot the ball well last season, just the playoffs.
00:59:34I didn't shoot as well as I wanted to.
00:59:37And that's a good sign.
00:59:38There's obviously things I can get better at.
00:59:41And I think that's a good thing.
00:59:43Bobby, they weren't respecting your question there.
00:59:45Can you tell them to keep it down next time?
00:59:48I don't love that.
00:59:50I don't love it.
00:59:51I don't love that.
00:59:52I don't love that.
00:59:53I don't love that at all.
00:59:56It's something I've dealt with, something I've been dealing with it.
00:59:58He's got something lingering that is just going to be there.
01:00:01I think he's dealt with in the past too.
01:00:03Yeah, I don't love it.
01:00:06Yeah, he always seems to be playing through stuff, whether it's a wrist or whether it's
01:00:10this thing this year, there always seems to be something there that he just plays through.
01:00:14Obviously, we talked about after last practice there, how they expect him and
01:00:18Brown and other guys to be able to play through pain.
01:00:21And I think that's what this is.
01:00:22I don't think this is anything that's going to cost him time in a significant spot.
01:00:28Now, is it effective playing through this kind of pain?
01:00:32I mean, I do like how he's playing to start this year, John.
01:00:34I don't think there's anything to look at here.
01:00:36Absolutely.
01:00:37The process is great.
01:00:40It's right now managing those slower shooting nights because for some reason or another,
01:00:43and we keep talking about this, Noah, he'll have like a seven for 11 three-point shooting
01:00:49game, and then he'll have like an 0 for 10 one.
01:00:51And that's how his numbers end up averaging out.
01:00:53It's so crazy because that's usually not how it goes to get to 38% or wherever he lives.
01:00:59Yeah, I think he's at 36% right now from three on the season.
01:01:04It's a little bit down from last year, but certainly better than he was shooting in the
01:01:07playoffs, kind of reminiscent of the previous seasons prior to last year.
01:01:12I don't know.
01:01:12I don't find that injury update concerning.
01:01:14Maybe I'm overly nonchalant about those guys and their pains, but I feel like Jalen, Jason,
01:01:21Drew, they're always going to have a knee thing or a soreness thing.
01:01:26The miles that they're playing, three of those guys playing through the summer, I think it's
01:01:31just kind of the reality of being an NBA athlete.
01:01:33And a lot of teams, you wouldn't hear as much about it because they're just going to play
01:01:37through.
01:01:37They have to play through stuff.
01:01:39And I think they're in a position right now where they're going to prioritize rest and
01:01:42they have so much faith in their backups too.
01:01:45But I don't know.
01:01:45I didn't take that update to be concerning personally.
01:01:48I feel like he actually said he's dealt with this in the past.
01:01:50So Drew said last week that he had not dealt with his knee thing.
01:01:53So that was more concerning to me that this is the first time in his career that he's
01:01:56dealing with a certain knee pain.
01:01:58Whereas Jason seems like this is something he's familiar with.
01:02:01The Drew one, I have my eyes on more for sure, especially the way he's played to start this
01:02:05year.
01:02:06I don't love what I don't love, uh, 26 games into the year dealing with the nagging injuries
01:02:12that everyone's dealing with at the 75 game mark, everyone enters the playoffs banged
01:02:18up.
01:02:18Cause you just played a whole season.
01:02:19I don't love it early.
01:02:21So again, I, that, I, I, I was second game in a week.
01:02:25Once again, I don't think we've talked about saving Jason Tatum from herself, from himself
01:02:31and the fact that he refuses to sit for the love of God.
01:02:35Sit the guy.
01:02:36If, if you have a lingering thing that you might need to rest, Oh my God, just take two
01:02:41weeks off, dude.
01:02:42Like it's fine.
01:02:43Like that, that should be okay.
01:02:45I, I, I would, again, I would load manage the crap out of this team.
01:02:49They're going to be the one or the two seed.
01:02:52It's fine.
01:02:53You just need perfect health entering the playoffs and you're just going to walk to
01:02:58the finals again.
01:03:00So just get there by all means necessary.
01:03:03Um, so yeah, there's a bit of white was another one who's dealing with it.
01:03:06Everybody's dealing with a little something way too early in the year and you can't sit
01:03:10them all.
01:03:10So I would just kind of rotate through, uh, and, and not be afraid to do that.
01:03:14Tonight too, is a little different.
01:03:16I mean, normally it's on the back to backs, but they still want for him tonight between
01:03:19like three days off and two days.
01:03:21Yeah.
01:03:21So, well, that's why I would rest and it wasn't the toe injury.
01:03:24Yeah.
01:03:24It was a back to back.
01:03:25It would have been listed as toe.
01:03:26Yeah.
01:03:27The big toe.
01:03:28Right.
01:03:29The downside in the past, the downside to all of these ridiculous first, first
01:03:33player to blank stats that people point out with Tatum is that his mileage is extremely
01:03:37high for somebody at his age.
01:03:39So, um, just reduce that a little bit, you know, just leave the car in the garage.
01:03:44It's okay.
01:03:45Um, anyway, uh, they can win almost all of these games.
01:03:50Oh my God.
01:03:50You can sit three guys a night and win 80% of the games on their schedule.
01:03:54Just, just do it.
01:03:56If they rested to the maximum Noah Pritchard might actually make the all-star game.
01:04:00Yeah.
01:04:02Don't get me started.
01:04:04Don't get her started.
01:04:06Um, we've got an hour, which is, I think as, as much as this game deserves.
01:04:09So we're going to wrap it up.
01:04:10It is Sunday and it is a school night.
01:04:12So we'll let y'all get back to whatever it is that you're doing.
01:04:15Uh, there's plenty of, uh, Patriots coverage on the Patriots channel.
01:04:19Uh, if you want to check that out, if you miss the, can you give me like a two minutes
01:04:23or one minute synopsis of what the hell happened?
01:04:26I'll tell you the story of the game.
01:04:28There's two, there's two major stories.
01:04:31It was a really dog.
01:04:35You know, what performance coming off of a bi-week, um, that it was a disgrace, uh,
01:04:41against this team, a disgrace, but also beyond that was lack of urgency or lack of imagination
01:04:49and simply just kind of dinking and dunking and throwing screen passes and not trying
01:04:54to press the ball downfield, not letting Drake may run, not do anything and almost just rolling
01:04:58over and accepting defeat.
01:04:59It was pathetic.
01:05:00But the two stories that are by far the biggest stories of this game was Jonathan and Robert
01:05:07craft were caught in the owner's box, clearly trashing the offensive play calling with lip
01:05:12reading.
01:05:12That's clear as day.
01:05:14You can see what they're saying, bashing the play calling.
01:05:17And then after the freaking game, Gerard Mayo asked why Drake may didn't run it at the goal
01:05:21line.
01:05:22And was that an option?
01:05:23And he goes, you said it, not me.
01:05:25Basically just backing over his offensive coordinator with a bus.
01:05:29So that's the most immature thing I've ever heard.
01:05:32A head coach say literally just us through offensive coordinator.
01:05:36I didn't call it.
01:05:37You're the head freaking coach.
01:05:40It was everything about today was disgraceful.
01:05:43They've had worse losses in terms of looking bad.
01:05:46This was a horrible look for the regime from the owners to the coach and what's going on
01:05:52with that team.
01:05:54Awful.
01:05:55And I, look, I did this show because Bobby had to go to Washington and I, and, and we
01:06:00needed somebody along with Noah to hold it down and I'm fine with it.
01:06:05But, oh my God, if I was on the Patriots post game show, I would have lost my mind.
01:06:10It's probably best.
01:06:11I wasn't there because those guys would have hated listening to me.
01:06:14It was awful, awful.
01:06:18Anyway, sorry.
01:06:19That's it.
01:06:20That's more than two minutes.
01:06:23It was awful.
01:06:24So you guys want to check it out.
01:06:26Go check it out.
01:06:27Patriots channel, lots more coverage.
01:06:29We're going to have more stuff in the next couple of days too with that.
01:06:32But Holy wow.
01:06:34That was bad, bad, bad, bad stuff today.
01:06:36Really bad stuff.
01:06:38Anyway, Drake may Christian Gonzalez and nothing else.
01:06:41Burn the rest of it.
01:06:42Burn it.
01:06:44I'm done.
01:06:45So glad I only watch basketball.
01:06:47I'm done.
01:06:48Yeah.
01:06:49It couldn't be two more opposite experiences right now.
01:06:52Yeah.
01:06:52It's this is amazing, right?
01:06:54This is great.
01:06:55It's the great.
01:06:56This is great.
01:06:56This is again, even a Washington game is enjoyable.
01:07:00Sad state of affairs with the Patriots, but happy to have you here.
01:07:03We are back as we said on Thursday, and then we got a string of games, including Christmas.
01:07:07And yeah, we'll be doing a Christmas garden report because that's what we do.
01:07:11So keep it with us.
01:07:12We're also going to have some cool announcements about something coming up for CLNS on our
01:07:17YouTube channels that we want to tell you about.
01:07:18We're going to tell you about that a little bit later on, but definitely stay tuned.
01:07:22There's going to be more stuff and more options for you to choose from, which is coming up.
01:07:27So we'll start to kind of trickle out those details in the next week or so.
01:07:32Other than that, it was really great hanging out on a Sunday.
01:07:36Thank you very much to Noah.
01:07:37Thank you to Bobby, who's in DC.
01:07:39Check out our channel.
01:07:40Check out Celtic's blog for Noah's written coverage and CLNS media for what Bobby has
01:07:45to say.
01:07:45And as always, it was a ton of fun, and we will see you next time.
01:07:49No one's sneaking a vegan brownie by me.
01:07:51I'll tell you that.
01:07:51Okay, you know what, John?
01:07:52We're going to do it.
01:07:53You have to feel that way too, Bobby.
01:07:54I have to feel that way?
01:07:56Slide out over and make Luke your first center.
01:07:59Bobby, we gave you Luke an hour earlier.
01:08:01We're not going to end this on a damn conversation about Luke.