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00:00What's up, everyone?
00:27This is Noah Dalzell.
00:28And I'm here with a special edition episode
00:31of You Got Boston, live from Charlotte.
00:35I'll be in Charlotte over the next couple of days
00:37covering the Celtics back-to-back.
00:39They play the Hornets tomorrow and then again on Saturday.
00:43So we'll get two road games here.
00:45It's my first time here in Charlotte.
00:47And I figured I'd jump on just to talk
00:48a little bit about last night's loss, first loss of the season
00:52to Indiana.
00:54Kind of what went wrong, what went right.
00:56If you caught the Garden Report last night,
00:57you heard some of my thoughts.
00:59But I figured I'd jump on here and just answer any questions
01:01that people might have.
01:02And then also, I really wanted to spend some time talking
01:05about Nias Keita and just what we saw from him.
01:07Because I do think that ultimately, that
01:09is the most important thing that we
01:11learned in yesterday's game.
01:13And so I'll spend a little bit of time about the game,
01:15a little bit of time about Keita in particular,
01:17and kind of just what we saw from him
01:19and what I think we can come to expect from him
01:21and what the expectations are and what the ceiling is
01:24for him as a player, which I do think is quite high.
01:28And then we'll talk a little bit about Charlotte coming up
01:30in these next few days here.
01:32The Celtics were supposed to have practice today,
01:35and they canceled practice, which
01:36I was a little bit bummed about.
01:37Because it's always a good opportunity
01:39to talk to players on the road.
01:41But ultimately, this was an opportunity.
01:44It wasn't a huge surprise that they canceled just
01:46because of the fact that the game went into overtime.
01:49They were in Indiana last night.
01:50So it would have been a long trip to Boston.
01:54I'm sorry, to Charlotte right away.
01:56And then to have turn around and have practice the next day,
01:58and then you have back-to-back games.
02:00And so the reason I want to talk about Keita
02:04is because I do think he's going to get another opportunity here
02:06because we have a back-to-back, first back-to-back
02:09of the season.
02:10And Al Horford is ultimately, he's definitely
02:13not going to play both games.
02:14He didn't last year.
02:15He's certainly not going to do it this year.
02:18And so no Porzingis, no Al on at least one of these two nights,
02:22there's going to be a big opportunity here for just
02:25the Celtics backup bigs to play.
02:28And so I think what we saw from Keita last night,
02:30that's the big story.
02:31He was a plus 18 in 13 minutes off the bench, nine rebounds,
02:36a block, a massive block, two points, one of two field goals.
02:40So it was just, to me, he was really the big reason
02:44why this game shifted and why the tie turned.
02:46And that's why Joe Mizzoula stayed with him,
02:48even when he was, when it had been the entire fourth quarter stretch
02:53and now you're heading into overtime, they never really
02:54wavered from that group, minus just going off
02:56in defense with Sam Hauser.
02:58And so, yeah, I felt like it was really,
03:01it showed a sign of confidence, but it also really kind of spoke
03:04to the whole idea of stay ready, because the whole idea with Joe
03:07Mizzoula and the Celtics organization is they're always saying,
03:10the guys that are on the bench that aren't playing,
03:11they're staying ready.
03:12And this was the perfect epitome of that,
03:14because after playing 13 minutes in Washington,
03:18he came and didn't play at all in Detroit.
03:20He had a good game in Washington, too.
03:21He had 12 points in 13 minutes, five of seven shootings, seven rebounds.
03:25Like, he stuffs the statute when he plays.
03:28But then he didn't play in Detroit.
03:29He played a single minute in Milwaukee.
03:30So two consecutive games, he's out of the rotation.
03:33It's looking like it's going to be three consecutive games.
03:36And then here he goes, ends up being one of the most important players
03:39in a comeback that just fell short, which in the scheme of things,
03:43I don't think it really matters that they lost that game yesterday.
03:46I think there's a lot you can take away from the fact
03:48that they were in position to come back.
03:50Because ultimately, like, Siakam misses that three,
03:52and Tatum hits that three.
03:53Like, it doesn't really change things.
03:55So that's kind of the reality here.
03:59But I felt like Keita was, you know, showcase
04:03what it is that I think makes a lot of people really excited about him.
04:06And it's his ability to grab offensive rebounds.
04:08It's his activity level.
04:10It's just he's just a disruptor.
04:12He looks like a nightmare for the opponent.
04:14Like, nobody wants to deal with him, basically, is kind of how it appears.
04:18And so I think just watching him play and watching, you know,
04:22there was kind of this lackluster energy from this team all night yesterday.
04:26And it came in spurts.
04:28Like, Derek White had some good moments.
04:30You know, Luke Cornett in the first half had some good moments.
04:32Tatum and Brown came alive at various moments.
04:34But for the most part, it was a team that was a step behind.
04:37And everybody spoke to that postgame.
04:39You know, Jason Tatum spoke to that.
04:40Jalen Brown, Joe Mizzoula.
04:42And so the fact that you can dig now and go to one of your last bench big spots,
04:47you know, a guy that basically was headed to three DNPs in a row.
04:50And he is the turning point.
04:52I think it epitomizes the culture and everything that this team,
04:55you know, preaches and wants to be.
04:57And Keita really showed that yesterday.
05:00And I really do wish they had won so we could kind of put a nice bow on things
05:02and call this the Namias Keita game, because, you know, the story doesn't
05:06it doesn't hit quite the same with a loss.
05:07But I think ultimately in the scheme of like what he's been able to accomplish
05:11this year and what we, you know, in the trajectory of his career,
05:14like it doesn't really matter what happened, you know, as far as
05:17the final score was concerned.
05:19And it was pretty remarkable that he was able to stay out there
05:23and not really make any critical mistakes.
05:25And they kind of shifted their defensive coverage
05:27to play to his strengths and it panned out.
05:29And so I'd love to know more about what Joe Mizzoula was thinking
05:32behind the scenes when he realized that Drew Holiday had not been playing.
05:36You know, Drew not to have to not have Drew Holiday down the stretch
05:38is a pretty big move, even though I don't think he was playing
05:40right yesterday and Pritchard was the hot hand.
05:43So I like the decision to go with the guys that got you back.
05:45But I'm curious what kind of conversations were taking place
05:47and kind of how he felt behind the scenes as well, because it's always a lot of
05:51I'm sure there's a lot of things that he was kind of juggling and considering there.
05:55So I'm going to start going through the chat here and acknowledging
05:58some of these questions and comments and continue to feel free to put in
06:01comments, questions, whatever else, as always.
06:04And I'm going to continue doing these every couple of days,
06:06usually on off days, because on days where we have games,
06:10we do the Garden Report on CLNS Media, which you can subscribe to
06:13if you're not watching this on CLNS.
06:14And you can hear some of my kind of takeaways and analysis there.
06:17So I'm going to start at the top comment here on the Cornette Tillman lineups.
06:24I just want to acknowledge the fact that Cornette and Tillman
06:27lineups have been statistically quite bad so far.
06:31I think everybody has seen that with the I-Test.
06:34I think the advance numbers show that as well.
06:36And at this point in the season, we've, you know, we've seen five games.
06:40Like part of the part of the thinking and part of the plan
06:43is trying out different things and kind of seeing what lands.
06:46And ultimately, I think that this was one of those things where
06:50I don't know that we're going to see much more of the Cornette Tillman combo.
06:53Like, I think you're just giving up a lot on both ends,
06:56or at least more than you need to.
06:58I've liked it better when they've gone with a single bench big
07:01and Jordan Walsh, for example, than two bench bigs.
07:05And I think the numbers back that up as well.
07:07And it just from a comfortability standpoint,
07:09like you could just see doesn't throw people off at all.
07:11So I don't think we're going to see them that much.
07:13I know people haven't been happy with them.
07:14I was joking yesterday on the Garden Report, but literally like people
07:18that I have not spoken to in months were texting me about
07:20how how much they do not enjoy those minutes.
07:23So it's clear that it is how the fan base feels.
07:27That being said, I think early on, the value of seeing things
07:30and trying things on the court versus, you know, not not experimenting
07:34and just going with the things that, you know, work in the playoffs.
07:36Like I would say, try everything.
07:38And even if you come, you know, even if you finish with the second seed
07:40because of it, like it's probably worthwhile.
07:43This isn't a team that struggles on the road.
07:44So, you know, obviously you want to win as many games as possible.
07:47And we know that Joe Mazzola is is that's his mindset.
07:49And that's what these players are thinking as well.
07:51But I think from a schematic standpoint, like there was
07:53there was an element of like, let's just try stuff yesterday that I did like
07:57and that I've just like throughout the season,
07:58like they could just go with no Jordan, but they're going with Jordan.
08:01So stuff like that.
08:04So. And thank you, Tom, for continuing to me,
08:07I'm starting to recognize some familiar familiar names, which is always fun.
08:10It was such a crazy game.
08:12And to be honest with you,
08:13yesterday was my first time doing the postgame show after a loss.
08:16And I was thinking to myself, like, oh, this is going to be so
08:18so kind of demoralizing to just talk about like everybody played bad.
08:22And yes, it was still a loss, but it did give us
08:25it was a completely different tone to our postgame show,
08:28because I think that there was actually a lot to think about and break down
08:30and consider around like, well, and well, it didn't go well.
08:34Who was key in the comeback?
08:35Derek White was huge.
08:36I mean, and when going eight for nine from the field, five or five from three
08:39did so much of the damage in the fourth quarter and overtime.
08:42So like there were some good things to consider, certainly as well.
08:47So, yeah, it was it was it was fascinating.
08:49I think that in a sense, they hadn't played great in a couple of games.
08:52Like Detroit was not a great, consistent effort.
08:55Milwaukee, I think you saw good moments, but there was also the first half,
08:57which they weren't quite themselves.
08:59And so sometimes a loss can be good, I think, from a mindset standpoint,
09:02because it just wakes you up and realizes, like, OK, the bad habits
09:04that you're getting away from, like they're they're inescapable.
09:07You have to actually change those things.
09:09You're not going to always be able to plot a win.
09:10And so I think there's something to be said about like sometimes
09:13it's good to lose in a way,
09:15although I don't want to I mean, obviously you're always going for the win.
09:20So I'm going to talk Charlotte.
09:21I see this question here about Charlotte and just kind of what we're anticipating
09:24there. These are just comments while I was talking about Kata.
09:26But I do think like the, you know, part of why Kata was successful yesterday
09:32is because the Pacers were shorthanded and they were largely relying
09:36on a small ball lineup.
09:37And that's why, you know, even Luke was able to exploit that.
09:40So I don't know that it's transferable to every single matchup.
09:43And in fact, we know it's not.
09:45We know that he's going to struggle at times versus different coverages and things.
09:48But I guess my point would be is I would love to see him.
09:53I would love to see him, you know, focus,
09:56you know, be thrown out there in these environments and be thrown out here
09:59in these different moments where like maybe it's going to cost them a little bit.
10:03And probably it's not.
10:04But maybe it is.
10:05And give, you know, give me a Kata guarding Dwell and beat for five minutes.
10:09Like, just let's just see what happens.
10:12I think that it's, you know, he has played so few NBA minutes,
10:15you know, in totality compared to a guy like Luke Cornett
10:17and compared to most of these bench picks that we're talking about.
10:20So, you know, Kata, I think that the only way he's going to be able
10:23to kind of iron out some of the things that he struggles with
10:25is by actually being on the floor.
10:26So that's my thinking.
10:28Last night was a great opportunity for him to play really high stakes minutes.
10:32And this comment here by Steve, like this is absolutely what I think
10:35when I watch him, like he he just has fire and passion.
10:39And there's just this energy about him that is it's really fun to watch.
10:42At least I think that you're talking about Kata here.
10:44Maybe I'm wrong, but that's regardless.
10:46I stand by that.
10:47I think that he's a yeah, like totally resonate with this, too.
10:50He's an energy high motor player.
10:52And you just versus younger, faster teams like those are
10:55you know, teams that sometimes have struggled with.
10:57Like I do think that you can give them another dimension
10:59that at least from like a game planning standpoint,
11:01like just makes things a little bit more challenging to go up against Boston.
11:05So it is hard because I think that like people get low on Luke
11:09in those moments because all of a sudden Kata is really explosive
11:12and there's things that he does really well that Luke doesn't do as well.
11:15And so it is I think it becomes this like Kata Luke thing.
11:18And I don't think it needs to be a Kata Luke thing personally.
11:21Like they're both important to this team.
11:22They both played important minutes yesterday.
11:24There's actually space for both of them to get minutes
11:26and there's going to be matchups where one is preferable over the other.
11:30And so I think there's like this natural desire, you know,
11:32among the fans, among the media to say like Luke versus Luke versus Kata.
11:36And I actually don't think that it needs to be like that,
11:39because there is a space where maybe Al's playing fewer minutes,
11:42really preserve his legs.
11:43You know, Porzingis is still a little bit of a ways away from coming back.
11:46Tillman has struggled a little bit here in these early days,
11:48although, you know, all of these are small sample sizes.
11:50So you don't want to you don't want to run with any of these assumptions right now.
11:53But I think that, you know, when you watch Kata,
11:56you remember why they were high on him, why they took his two way
11:59and made it a full guaranteed deal last year,
12:01and then ultimately why they brought him back for a multi-year deal.
12:03Like there's there's a reason that for all those things.
12:07So oh, and thank you so much, Nate, for for the contribution.
12:11Happy Halloween. I totally forgot it was Halloween.
12:13I was just walking around.
12:16I was walking around Charlotte trying to grab some food
12:18and people were in costumes and I was like, why?
12:20And then I realized that that's the one thing about covering an NBA team
12:25is that your schedule starts to not be like a normal person's schedule
12:29that is based off of like weekdays and weekends and holidays.
12:31And it's more just like when are the Celtics playing
12:34and when when are the WNBA games?
12:36So I forgot, but I appreciate that.
12:40Let's talk Drew Holiday.
12:41I got a couple of questions here about Drew.
12:44Drew wasn't playing good.
12:45I'm sure he understands.
12:46I definitely don't think Drew has an issue with being benched.
12:49I think that he is one of the fewer lowest ego guys on the team
12:53and probably in the NBA considering his talent level.
12:56And then question here from Nelson.
12:58What have you thought about Drew's start to the season?
13:03So the thing with Drew is that I felt like last night
13:06he was uncharacteristically like a little bit out of it,
13:09like he made some plays on both ends defensively, just like backdoor
13:12cuts, things that you're just not used to seeing.
13:15I've rewatched most of last night's game, not the full thing in its entirety,
13:18because I had to fly here this morning and had other work to do.
13:23But I watched, I rewatched most of the game.
13:27And yeah, as I rewatched, I kind of realized, like, OK,
13:29there were some things here that some plays here
13:31that just don't look like Drew Holiday level plays.
13:34I don't think that that's been consistent throughout these last few games.
13:37Like, I actually think that he's had a pretty solid start to the season.
13:40And so I guess my to answer the question, Nelson, like
13:43I haven't really thought too much about Drew's start.
13:45It hasn't caught my attention in the way that like Derrick's
13:47whites have, where Derrick White feels like he's taken almost another leap.
13:51Peyton Pritchard feels like he's taken another leap.
13:53Jalen Brown has had like some moments of struggle and some highs.
13:56Kate, I'm the same.
13:57Drew's just kind of been in the background a little bit.
14:00And I think that's completely fine for who he is at this point in his career.
14:04And after seeing him in the playoffs last year, I feel like everybody
14:07should have confidence in what he can do on both ends when the pressure is high.
14:12But certainly I think like once there's 10 games, I feel like you can start
14:15to draw conclusions or at least talk, you know, these guys that we have
14:19a really large sample with their careers.
14:20Like I can't even talk about like Tatum's shot after two or three games
14:23because it's just like, you have no idea.
14:26I can't talk about Jalen Brown and like how he's looking this year, you know,
14:29after two or three games, just because we've seen these guys
14:31play hundreds and hundreds of games.
14:33So I'm more comfortable, like jumping on, you know, these guys
14:36that we don't get to see very often, like Jordan Walsh and Mia Skater,
14:38because this is like all we know.
14:41But yeah, it wasn't a huge surprise when I rewatched
14:44why Drew Holliday did not check back in.
14:46And I kind of thought in lifetime, OK, this is because this is the group
14:50that brought the back and they wanted to make sure that they stuck
14:52with that group and rewarded them.
14:54And then as I when I rewatched, I was like, OK, this group actually
14:57just like was playing a lot better.
14:58And Pritchard actually just had a better game last night.
15:01He was just seemed more more locked in.
15:02And that's like that happens.
15:05I think Drew will bounce back well here.
15:07It'll be fun to see him with Charles Lee.
15:09Charles Lee was the assistant that he was probably the closest to,
15:11or at least he appeared to be.
15:13A lot of times last year they would get their shoot around together.
15:15Charles Lee was in Milwaukee with Drew as well.
15:18And so he was one of the first guys that we kind of asked
15:21when Charles got the job.
15:22And he said, you know, I'm obviously really happy for him and everything.
15:24But it'll be cool to see those two guys get reunited tomorrow.
15:27I'm sure they're spending some time together, maybe this weekend even.
15:30Or this. Yeah, I'm sure they'll see each other kind of off the floor.
15:34So and yeah, this is Tom just reiterating what I was thinking.
15:38You know, Pritchard played so well all game yesterday.
15:41I do feel like part of it was part of the Drew thing was just like
15:44Pritchard was playing really well.
15:46And I noticed the offense.
15:47He had 15 points.
15:48And this has like been a such a good stretch of offense for him.
15:5119 points, 28 points, 15 points.
15:53Like if he he's kind of showcasing what I've long believed,
15:56like if you give this guy an opportunity, he's going to show you
16:00that he's capable of of of putting up numbers and putting up
16:05like lead guard numbers.
16:06And I know people it's a controversial opinion a little bit still.
16:09But I do think that I do think that ultimately, like Pritchard is somebody
16:15that, you know, give him the chance, give him the chance to close out
16:17this game yesterday.
16:19He doesn't get as many chances as other guys.
16:21He doesn't have the same leeway as other guys.
16:22And yesterday he was one of the better, best two guards in the game.
16:26And what stood out to me on the rewatch was defensively.
16:29He made some big plays defensively, and he was actually really bothering
16:31Tyrese Halliburton and whoever else he was switched on to.
16:35And so he actually wasn't a liability.
16:36Sure. You know, obviously Drew can do things that Pritchard can't.
16:39That's always going to be the case defensively with just a size limitation.
16:42But yeah, I was really impressed by what I saw from him.
16:47And yeah, I was I was really hoping we'd have practice today
16:50so we could talk to Joe about kind of his thoughts on Pritchard's game
16:52and what some of the considerations were.
16:55And I feel this is common here.
16:56Drew should have finished was bad the other day and clutched at the end.
16:59I totally understand that piece.
17:01And I think there's a certain school thought of like,
17:03let's just put the stars in at the end.
17:05We're kind of regardless
17:07because they're the stars and they're the guys that, you know, you can count on.
17:09But I think in this kind of game, this is a regular season game.
17:13It was a very unconventional comeback.
17:15Like it was Tatum and the bench really that ignited that.
17:19Cato hadn't played the whole game.
17:20Like, I kind of like what Joe did.
17:22And I like the fact that Pritchard just got to ride it out.
17:25And I think if they win, it's an obvious call.
17:28And when you lose, you think like maybe they could have benefited from Drew there.
17:30And, you know, guarding the last few possessions.
17:32Like, you know, obviously there's there's something that he has there
17:34that, you know, you can't make up for.
17:36So. So, yeah, but it's an interesting dilemma.
17:40I'm always fascinated by the substitution patterns
17:42because there's so many different ways that these things can go.
17:45And ultimately, Joe kind of stuck to the group that brought them back.
17:48I mean, they were down by 21 at one point.
17:50So it was it was a pretty excessive deficit.
17:53And it just looked kind of lifeless.
17:54Like at one point, they were down by, I think, 17 in the fourth.
17:57And I was thinking to myself, like, just take just end the misery.
17:59Like they just they just looked so tired and so out of it.
18:02And it looked like they had just finished a long road trip.
18:04It was kind of surprising just how early in the season it was.
18:07And Jalen Brown said postgame, like, I didn't have my legs under me.
18:10I didn't have a burst all game.
18:12And I thought that was interesting because it is early in the season.
18:15You know, it sounds like a long term fatigue thing.
18:17But he said, you know, sometimes it just happens.
18:18And it's a long road, long season of ups and downs.
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20:01So I see some questions here about Tatum.
20:04I think that Tatum is always going to kind of dominate the conversation
20:06just because he is ultimately, you know, he's the guy.
20:09He's the guy that I think probably dominates the headlines
20:11more than anybody else or maybe maybe Jalen too.
20:15I felt in general that Tatum actually looked really good this season.
20:19I know the 3.1 numbers are back down to approximately what they were last year.
20:25Let's see, actually.
20:26Let me see if my computer can pull these up without crashing.
20:29So right now, he's averaging 30.2 points per game,
20:32seven rebounds, 5.2 assists.
20:34He's shooting 48.6% from the field.
20:38And from three, he's now at 37.7%.
20:42So that's literally exactly what he was last year.
20:44Last year, he was 37.6%.
20:47So all those numbers are pretty comparable.
20:49A couple more shot attempts, a couple more points,
20:52slight increases in assists, slight decrease in rebounds.
20:56So he looked pretty similar.
20:59What I liked yesterday was everything that, like, we saw from this game.
21:05You know, even when he was struggling and when he was off,
21:08like, he didn't pack it in.
21:09He didn't say, you know, this is just not our night.
21:11He was a big part of that comeback.
21:13As with everybody that was on the floor,
21:15it kind of requires a full-team effort in those moments.
21:18But I think that it showed a certain level of level-headedness, of maturity.
21:22And, you know, there were some snippets that were caught,
21:24you know, that were miked up, I think, on ESPN of the guys just being like,
21:27listen, we're the best team in the league.
21:29There's plenty of time left.
21:30Like, we can make this happen.
21:31And you could just tell that there was a cool about him
21:33and about other players as well that is just encouraging to see.
21:39And so, generally speaking, like, no major takeaways from Tatum's
21:43individual performance of three or five games that's that different
21:46from what we've seen in the past.
21:47I think the people that were worried that he was going to come in
21:50and he forgot how to shoot, like, that didn't happen, obviously.
21:52He's at the same rate that he was last year.
21:55But the 8 of 12 start in opening night, like, that was not going to be sustainable.
21:58And it's not sustainable because that's not a normal shooting pattern.
22:04Or maybe it was even with 8 for 11.
22:06I can't even remember now.
22:06But, yeah, I think that that's the one thing I'll say is, like,
22:09the Tatum three-point shot is still a little bit of a question mark.
22:11It's a little bit of an X factor in the sense of, like,
22:14is it actually much better than it was in previous years?
22:16He's a 37.5% career three-point shooter.
22:20That's, you know, that's a big sample size at this point.
22:22He has been in the league for, what, eight years?
22:24One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
22:26This is year eight.
22:27So, like, that's, you know, we don't really need to be worried about can he shoot?
22:31I think that people were starting to get excited about, like,
22:33is he going to suddenly be a 40% three-point shooter again?
22:36I don't think so.
22:37I mean, the thing that stands out right now is that he's averaging 12.2 attempts per game.
22:41His career average is 6.8.
22:43So this is a substantial jump from previous seasons.
22:46I don't think it's going to maintain.
22:47I mean, he took 18 threes last night.
22:49But other than that, like, I felt like he has been pretty,
22:53he has been pretty, you know, attacking in the rim.
22:56He took a lot of free throws yesterday.
22:57He seemed pretty engaged.
22:58I really liked his passing when he's kind of made it, you know, gone pass first.
23:02So I think he looks very dominant.
23:04He looks like he is going to be starting the season again,
23:07kind of in the MVP conversation.
23:08And he probably won't get it.
23:09But, yeah, kind of what we've come to expect from him these last few seasons.
23:13I feel like he gets off to these better starts than maybe he was earlier in his career.
23:17But, yeah, I'm curious.
23:18You guys can feel free to put in the chat what you thought about,
23:20what you guys have been thinking about his performance so far.
23:22I've seen the Jalen concerns.
23:23I know everybody's freaking out about Jalen.
23:26I would love to stress for people, like, if you're really freaking out about Jalen,
23:30like, at least, you know, he just won finals MVP, like, three months ago.
23:34Like, I feel like he should deserve, he deserves a little bit of leeway here
23:37to have a couple of tough nights.
23:38I think he owned up to these last few games that just he wasn't up to standard.
23:41And especially yesterday, he was, should check out his post game.
23:44If you haven't, you know, he really took accountability for a lot of the things
23:46that went wrong and the energy and that he didn't have bursts and things.
23:49And I think it's, I don't extrapolate anything more than just a couple of tough nights for him.
23:56But, yeah, Tatum was a big part of the comeback.
23:58Jalen made some big plays too, he had a big steal down the stretch.
24:01And then the one thing I'll say here is, you know, Philippe, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right,
24:06comment here about Porzingis will level up the team in December.
24:09It's very possible that Porzingis is actually closer to coming back than we may have realized.
24:13I think that from the beginning, Brad Stephens, Joe Mizzoula, Porzingis himself were pretty
24:19conservative with just talking about his minutes and when he might come back.
24:23And the reality is, is that Shams has reported that he's pretty close, is that it might be, you know,
24:28could be Christmas, it could be sooner even, which again, it's November tomorrow.
24:32So we're talking really soon here.
24:34And then obviously, like, second to that, there's this whole idea of, you know,
24:37we've been watching him warm up and he's been moving really well.
24:40And he's been doing that, those kinds of like shooting drills for weeks now.
24:44So it's not like he just got cleared to do that.
24:46So I would not be surprised if now that, you know, he ends up coming back sooner rather than later.
24:50And I think they're going to put him on a very restrictive plan.
24:55But yeah, you know, we'll see, you know, he's going to make them a lot better.
24:59I feel like even I forget sometimes how much of a better team this is when Porzingis is on the roster,
25:03because just from a room protection standpoint, just he was so efficient offensively last year.
25:08He bailed them out so many close games where he was just able to draw fouls.
25:12He was able to just get easy baskets shooting over people.
25:16I think we're going to get the same guy back that we've seen in the past.
25:19He's come back from so many injuries.
25:20So I feel like when you're somebody who knows you can come back from injuries,
25:24you've come back from injuries before, it gives you this sense of like almost confidence in yourself
25:28that maybe somebody that has never suffered a serious injury wouldn't have.
25:33So we'll see.
25:35Um, Tom question up here about, you know, should we split Cornette and Keita minutes based on matchups?
25:41It seems like Cornette is great against slower paced teams, but Keita was okay dealing with Indy's fast pace.
25:46I think that's kind of what it ends up being a lot of times.
25:49Um, so I don't think that, you know, I don't think that that's, you know, anything completely new.
25:57Um, but I think maybe sometimes people get frustrated because they want a certain player out there
26:01just because that's what they want to see.
26:02And like, you know, you're not thinking about who's the, who are the opponents that are out there.
26:06I'm going to start keeping track of when each of them are playing and who the matchups are,
26:09because I think that there is exactly as you laid out, like the more physical, faster paced teams, um, tend to bring Keita out.
26:17So we'll see how it plays out.
26:20I also just think that Keita right now, he's higher risk, higher reward.
26:23And so it's a certain mindset of playing him more minutes.
26:26Like if he's playing more minutes, he's going to make more mistakes,
26:28but he also might get a spectacular block that Luke's just not going to get.
26:31And so you have to kind of think about how much risk you want at this point.
26:35And maybe in a playoff game, you're going to take the lower risk, lower reward option,
26:39but maybe in November against the Hornets, you do the reverse.
26:43So we'll see.
26:44Um, I think that it self-expansive should be grateful that we have both of these guys on the roster,
26:48because ultimately, like, these are both players that are, are good, are good backup bigs.
26:52Like they really are.
26:52And I know that they're not perfect.
26:54If they were perfect, they wouldn't be minimum players.
26:55But, um, there's still a lot of good things that they're doing and, you know, ways that they've contributed to this team
27:00and that they're, you know, they're 4-1.
27:02So they're 4-1, and Al's pretty limited his minutes.
27:05And Porzingis has not been in the lineup.
27:12Yeah, and I see Tatum's shot seems better.
27:15I think the mechanics have looked better to people.
27:18I really try to steer clear of mechanics as much as possible,
27:21um, unless it's super, super obvious to me,
27:24just because I think that it can become a little confirmation bias.
27:26I saw Mikael Burgess' shooting, his true shooting percentage right now is 62%.
27:30So for all the discussions around how ugly his shots looked,
27:34he's been pretty much normal.
27:36Um, so, yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty funny just to see,
27:40like, sometimes the eye just doesn't always match up with the analytics.
27:43Um, I thought that as Tatum was kind of getting more tired yesterday,
27:46he was, his shot was looking a little bit wonkier.
27:49Um, but the big thing is the hitch, and the hitch is mostly gone.
27:52I haven't seen many flashes of the hitch since he's been, since, you know, since the season.
27:57Um, so I'm going to just, we're just going to have a quick message from our friends over at Game Time,
28:02and then we'll talk other teams, um, and just kind of who other threats might be right now.
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29:08So I've been catching a bunch of these games.
29:10I try to watch as much as possible.
29:11Um, I will say it's never, it's, yeah, it's never been, you know, I'm never able to catch everything,
29:18but I think so far OKC's look really good, um, and Cleveland's look really good.
29:22They're obviously the two undefeated teams, um, but I think, you know, it's just hard.
29:30I always feel like there's like the fluky teams that look really good at the beginning of the season.
29:33And you look at the standings and it's like, when were the Pelicans in first place?
29:36But they were for a while, you know?
29:37So, you know, Cleveland, I think it's, again, it's a small sample.
29:39They haven't had too many difficult battles just yet, but it looked good yesterday.
29:43They've looked good, uh, through five games.
29:45OKC is the team that I was the highest on coming into the season.
29:48And they have totally matched my expectations of kind of what we saw.
29:51And that's without Hardenstein, which who I think is, remains one of the most underrated players in the league.
29:57Um, so just thinking Eastern Conference, I will say like Pacers were not the number one team that I was listing as a threat to Boston.
30:04Um, and I think in general, people are sleeping on the Pacers just because they, they don't have,
30:08they didn't have like a bunch of splashy signings.
30:10You know, they kind of, they're in a smaller market.
30:12Uh, but ultimately they were the number two team in the East last year.
30:14They were in the Eastern Conference Finals.
30:16And so they deserve a little bit more respect.
30:18They've always played the Celtics well.
30:20Last year, they beat them twice during the regular season.
30:22They were one of just two teams that beat the Celtics twice last year, uh, the Nuggets being the other.
30:28And then again, last night, like regardless of how low energy in the Celtics, all that, like there was a reason why they got ahead by so much.
30:35Um, and sometimes it takes another team forcing you to be low energy and best up behind.
30:38So I think Indiana is a team that I know I've been tuning into them.
30:41Halliburton hasn't played like himself yet.
30:42And if that happens and everything else kind of continues to materialize, you know, Siakam, um, you know, I thought, you know,
30:50Nembhardt really didn't even play yesterday and he, he has been huge against Boston at points.
30:54Um, and so they are, they are a team that I'm just going to like put a little bit more respect on their names.
30:59Um, I think that at the same time, I don't, I would be very surprised if they meet the Celtics in a seven game series, but I think that if they face off again, it wouldn't be a sweep because it really shouldn't have been a sweep last year.
31:09Um, and Joe's mentioned that we all felt that way being in Indiana.
31:12Every one of these games was crazy.
31:14Um, and I also just love watching Indiana play.
31:16Like I think they're just a fun basketball team to watch.
31:18They make the most of the talent that they have.
31:20Uh, they play basketball in a way that just makes sense.
31:22Like they're getting easy baskets.
31:23They have constant cuts, constant passing.
31:26It's like, they're making it as easy as possible.
31:28Sometimes you watch these talented NBA teams and you're like, what, like, what is running?
31:31What are they running right now?
31:32You know, it feels like they're not, they're not capitalizing on all the talent they have on the court.
31:35And so Indiana gets a bump for me.
31:38Um, OKC stays probably number one is the threat to Boston.
31:41I just think that they, they might be a year away.
31:43Like they might still be a little bit too inexperienced and too young, but I don't know.
31:47I feel like between SGA being older than people think and the fact that they now have Alex Caruso,
31:51who's obviously won it all and he's a great defender.
31:54So, um, we'll see, you know, we'll see about, about that and about whether they need more time.
31:59Um, but I'm a, I'm a fan of OBC.
32:01I'm a fan of kind of what they have going on over there.
32:03I think the way that they've kind of built this team through the draft has been pretty cool.
32:05And then this past offseason, I thought it was really shrewd.
32:08Um, so yeah, we'll see.
32:11And then I resonate with this comment here.
32:12I think the Cavs have shown flashes and they did last year as well.
32:16Um, and again, it was weird because last year we never saw the full strength Cavs, you know,
32:20with Jared Allen, Evan Mobley, Donovan Mitchell all together.
32:23Um, and so they are one of the many teams that were not at full strength last season.
32:27Didn't have the space in the post season.
32:29Um, I'm going to need a bigger sample from Cleveland before I can get excited about them.
32:33Five and O's starts great.
32:35Um, you know, they looked good in the games they've played so far.
32:38Um, but do they have enough offense?
32:40Do they have like, like, can those bigs, can Jared Allen be like a dominant guy who
32:44actually squares up with a, you know, or another really good NBA all-stars, you know,
32:48post player and, and do what he's been doing these last, these first few games?
32:51I don't know.
32:51I'm not saying I don't believe in them, but I just think we need a little more sample.
32:54So we'll get back to them.
32:56Um, I'm going to be out in, I'm going to be out in, uh, Cleveland in November to
33:02catch the Celtics in Cleveland.
33:03So, uh, I'll have some, some updates from on the ground there.
33:06I'm trying to go to as many of these road games as possible.
33:09Um, just to give you guys a perspective of kind of what I'm hearing and seeing on the
33:11ground, nothing much yet.
33:13I only got here today, but I'll be here all weekend.
33:15So feel free to message me if you have questions, things you want to see.
33:18I'll be posting videos and things from on the ground, from Charles Lee, from players
33:21talking to one another and all that.
33:23Um, I did see that we got Boston banner that the Pacers hung.
33:27I thought that was pretty funny.
33:28I don't, I, I was going to co-tweet it.
33:31And then I think I asked around and it sounds like they do that for every single
33:34game.
33:35Um, but it is pretty funny because I always hear the expression of like, Oh, winning,
33:39like, you know, beating the Celtics was your championships just to actually see
33:41like the banner rise.
33:42I don't know if that was postgame, pregame, whatever it was.
33:44If anybody has context on that, I'm curious, but, um, it was pretty funny to
33:49see, um, because it felt like it was like a, a meme manifested.
33:53Um, but my biggest takeaway from yesterday was just the team has fight.
33:56This team has players on the bench that are ready to go.
33:59It just shows you good organizational culture.
34:01Um, and Indiana is really good.
34:03And Indiana is a tough, tough matchup for any of these teams to play against.
34:05And certainly they've been, they've put up a hell of a fight against Boston this
34:08last year, you know, between the in-season tournament, between every one of those
34:11conference finals games that came down to a point flip.
34:14It felt like, um, and then obviously starting with the win here, you know,
34:18first loss of the season for the Celtics.
34:19So I'll wrap it up here.
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