👉 La jueza Arroyo Salgado ha solicitado el desafuero del millonario senador. La gendarmería está allanando sus propiedades, incluyendo un edificio llamado Life Santiago. Se investiga su vinculación con la empresa Betail S.A., una sociedad anónima ganadera sin actividad agropecuaria aparente. Legisladores están bajo presión para expulsarlo de la Cámara.
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00:00Cordia Cueva was a millionaire, he had a head of steel, but he had properties everywhere, didn't he?
00:04Look, Guille, in consonance with what Paula said on the phone, Judge Arroyo Salgado asked for the eviction.
00:13Obviously, the legislators are going to be pressured to expel him from the Chamber today.
00:18To Edgardo Cueva, look at these images that we have, they are happening now.
00:24Due to the decision of the judge, Arroyo Salgado, the gendarmerie is fleeing.
00:29Cueva's building, do you know why I say Cueva?
00:33Because it is even presumed that he may have been the financier.
00:36Where Cueva had, Life Santiago is the name of the building, three apartments, two cars,
00:41one semi-flat valued at $ 350,000, two two-bedrooms valued at $ 150,000.
00:48All in the name of Betail S.A., an anonymous company.
00:51A cattle ranch that had no agricultural activity.
00:57It doesn't even have a good accountant who tells it, hey, if you're going to buy properties,
01:04let the social object be real estate and construction, for example, and not a cattle ranch.
01:10With relatives, because it passes the shares to the relatives,
01:13where there are also raids in the house of the relatives in Concordia.
01:17Look at the mess that all the family gets into, these guys.
01:19Well, there are people who get their own children into it, right?
01:22Excuse me, we have a colleague who is in Concordia,
01:25who we thank, who attends us on the phone, Diana Slavin.
01:28Diana, how are you? Nice to meet you, good morning.
01:31How are you? Good morning to everyone.
01:33Well, can you tell us something more about what is happening there with these raids?
01:38Well, indeed, the raids that are taking place here in Concordia
01:43is the framework of the same cause, and it has to do with the home of what would be cousin and partner
01:50of Edgardo Fuegler, who is Javier Rubel.
01:55One of the people who is his cousin, Albañil at the time,
01:59who when Fuegler assumes as senator in the chamber,
02:04gives him and gives him 50% of his shares,
02:08so that he also says and appears, and not Fuegler,
02:12during the time that he could not do it, right?
02:15But also, I have an extra piece of news,
02:19a little while ago, this person Rubel
02:24was impeached for a case of sexual abuse against two minors,
02:30daughters of an ex-partner of him.
02:34There are things that have advanced in this situation.
02:38Extraordinary.
02:40Well, let's see, obviously, everything confluences.
02:43First, for example, the trip to Paraguay was not the only trip,
02:48there had already been a lot of money there before.
02:51You have to investigate well what the objective was, right?
02:54Of the Cuéidero plans, of what was already established in that country.
02:58The question goes through the triangulation with relatives,
03:01and as the colleague Javier Rubel said, who is the cousin,
03:05also a partner and friend, who is Rodolfo González,
03:10who is a political pointer of Concordia,
03:12who works in the Senate and has a very important contract
03:15since 2004, also appears linked to this company.
03:19And the judge, although Arroyo Salgado had this complaint
03:22for months, he started working now,
03:25because of this situation that sees him involved
03:29and preventively detained in Paraguay.
03:33Now, I don't know if you have any more detail
03:35as to what the findings of the raids were,
03:38because Gendarmería is looking for documentation with precision,
03:42both there and in the place of business roots,
03:45let's say it's called Duhovne Studio.
03:46If they tell you about two raids, a desk and a Concordia department.
03:50I want to tell you something about Duhovne.
03:52I was just writing to Lucio.
03:53Duhovne is a real estate company that was also here in this area,
03:57but basically, the writer Duhovne,
04:00who is the owner's brother, was dismissed
04:02for the number of writings that were adulterated
04:05in fraud to all those who used his services as a writer.
04:09So here are things that we would have to,
04:11surely Arroyo Salgado will investigate,
04:14because Duhovne Properties or Duhovne, the writer,
04:18probably have a link, or at least it is a hypothesis,
04:21also to continue in the investigation,
04:22because it is no coincidence that it is there next door.
04:25You just talked about it.
04:26In coherence with all these crimes.
04:30Yes, we are talking about...
04:31Excuse me.
04:31Yes.
04:32Yes, this is a cause in which several causes
04:37and several people involved are being investigated.
04:40This person, González, who you were saying,
04:42was, if you will, Cuéder's first partner.
04:46Those two join what would be that BTAI,
04:50Anonymous Society.
04:51Then, Cuéder gives his share to Ruggel,
04:57who, well, before he was an albanil,
05:00he is his cousin, his cousin's brother,
05:02and he lives here in Concordia.
05:04And that is where he is currently staying,
05:07here in the nursery, but with a total hermeticism, right?
05:12Of course.
05:12It is noted, Diana, that since June,
05:15July last, the expenses of these five departments
05:19that were under the name of BTAI and LSA
05:21were transferred to the figure of Yara Ginzel Costa,
05:25who is the secretary with whom you say
05:27that she maintains an affective relationship, right?
05:29Absolutely, absolutely.
05:30As a summary, the case of Ruggel here in Concordia
05:35would be very similar to your secretary, basically.
05:39My cousin.
05:40It would be more or less the same.
05:43Of this dog.
05:44Because in turn, this person, Ruggel,
05:48is being investigated for his contracts in the Senate.
05:52In other words, he is part of that very extensive list
05:55that speaks of his contracts in the Senate
05:58that had been granted precisely by the Gallup-Pegasus
06:03among others.
06:04Of course.
06:04Let's go back to an anonymous company called BTAI,
06:07which has never had commercial activity
06:10since it was created.
06:10Of course.
06:11He enters, if I'm not mistaken, in 2019, right?
06:14To that company, buying 50% of the shares
06:16and then transfers them, part of these shares, to his cousin.
06:21I understand?
06:22Exactly, to Ruggel.
06:23When he takes over his bank as a senator,
06:26a man who had absolutely no liquidity,
06:29who was living in Spain,
06:30as you said, he was the class-C monotributor.
06:34I mean, there was a complaint,
06:36both in the National Forum, the Federal Forum,
06:39of the Salgado Ray,
06:40there is also a complaint for his passage through Enersa,
06:41the energy company of the province,
06:43also with a triangulation of supposed coimas
06:46with a security company.
06:47I mean, all that didn't advance at all in the province, right?
06:50Until today.
06:51Well, let's say that Ruggel was a person
06:54very closely linked to the governor, Gustavo Bordet,
06:58and this without proving it,
07:02because there is no cause for a firm failure,
07:05or anything like that,
07:06but he was always a person who was investigated,
07:10surrounded,
07:11that one knew that there were situations
07:15that were strange in some way,
07:17but he was always linked to the government on duty
07:20to do more.
07:21It is that, let's say, the truth, this is investigated
07:23because they caught him there in Fraganti,
07:24because they say that someone very important
07:27from politics intervened for this to happen.
07:30No, in reality, the subject of Russian contracts
07:33and the subject of this company
07:35was already being investigated.
07:38But it just happens that, in turn,
07:40it returns to this mass for finding him in Paraguay.
07:44But here in Entre Ríos, the investigation is over.
07:46But Diana, I say, it accelerates it to such an extent
07:49that by taking this turn at the national level,
07:52obviously.
07:53Exactly, they do it at the national level.
07:54Now, now, now they are forced to go deep,
07:58because I reiterate, this Betail was created,
08:02it appears as a sale of standing cattle,
08:04production of agricultural cultivation seeds,
08:07it records zero sales and zero cost
08:10for the purchase of merchandise.
08:11Let's see, let's make a society to be able to work all this.
08:15It is that this was surely put together by some scribe
08:18or some group.
08:19That's why I was telling you,
08:20surely the scribe who signed the different societies
08:23or have common links, or are friends or linked,
08:26or it can be the same.
08:27To begin with, the name is Betail, I don't know how much.
08:30Betail is a Jewish name, that is, it is in Hebrew.
08:35So, the reality is that we should not rule out
08:38the clue of Edu Jovne, because he was writing truncheons
08:42and was prosecuted and lost his enrollment.
08:44I mean, there is a brain behind the action of the politician
08:49who organized and orchestrated all this maneuver,
08:52because the most important thing is not the one who is detained,
08:57but it is the brain behind all this,
08:59because there may be many interests of other people
09:02who are covering themselves.
09:04No, it is not a coincidence, excuse me.
09:07It is not a coincidence that with the change of government
09:10all these situations have advanced,
09:12as it happened also with Uribarri, right?
09:15Concordia, 40 years ago, was governed
09:17by the same political party,
09:18now he ran for the last elections,
09:20and the province 20 years ago.
09:24That is, a long time for the intensity from here to there.
09:28Of course, then they are all linked,
09:30I was watching Claudio Tortul,
09:32who is another...
09:34There are many also who have to do with,
09:36not only civil servants, but also trade unionists,
09:38who would also have departments in that building and in others.
09:42I understand that they are trying to establish
09:45if this black silver of corruption went to private works,
09:50that is what the judge Rojo Salgado is trying to establish,
09:55and another clue that there is,
09:57a kind of pendrive that appeared
10:00among the belongings of Quader in Paraguay,
10:03that they think, they presume,
10:04could have money in a cold virtual wallet.
10:08What is that cold virtual wallet?
10:10Cold virtual wallet, tell me.
10:13Of course, you have the bitcoins,
10:15or the virtual money,
10:17which is in what is called the cloud system,
10:20in the networks,
10:22although you have access to that,
10:25this virtual wallet that exists here in Argentina,
10:27Mercado Pago, Prex, whatever,
10:29bitcoin also enters that range,
10:32what would be a hot virtual wallet.
10:34Then there is the cold virtual wallet,
10:36you can have in your pendrive
10:38100 million dollars,
10:40saved in bitcoins,
10:43which is presumed,
10:45could be what has a kind of key
10:48that they find among their belongings in Paraguay.
10:51Here we are talking, Guille,
10:52about the possibility of a megacause of corruption,
10:55but millionaire, as there is not.
10:57Wait, how much money are you talking about?
10:58No, no, no, I gave you a figure.
10:59Ah, I know, you know if Lucio sees the bitcoin,
11:02that it is 100 thousand dollars.
11:03Yes, yes, the limit has passed.
11:05If you get to have a thousand bitcoins,
11:06you have that amount that German said.
11:08Of course, but it is tried to be established without that.
11:10Another megacause,
11:11because the Euriborri is already a megacause.
11:14Of course, of course, yes.
11:16Yes, what happens, of course.
11:17And they must all be united,
11:18because they must have a common denominator,
11:20and that is what you are going to try to investigate
11:23Arroyo Salgado,
11:24because this is one more cause
11:26within a megastructure.
11:28Yes, exactly.
11:29In other words, they are causes that,
11:32in turn, in their interlocking,
11:34opening and opening and opening
11:35with different people,
11:36different reactions and different situations.
11:39Let's see, from here we could say, Diana,
11:41take care of the physical integrity of Quader.
11:44Of course.
11:44He's there, right?
11:45Arrested in Paraguay.
11:46In Paraguay.
11:48I say this because this man knows a lot.
11:50If he talks, a lot of people fall.
11:52And up.
11:53You have to see if he wants to talk.
11:54Of course, with this you are telling, Débora,
11:56in terms of the fact that, obviously,
11:58much more important people are being covered here.
12:00Today this man is a hot ember.
12:02He's going to have a better time in Paraguay than here.
12:04Without a doubt.
12:04Because today he is in a detention,
12:06in a luxury case.
12:08Arroyo Salgado asks for detention,
12:10in addition to the misdemeanor,
12:11and here he is not going to be in a luxury case,
12:14today he is going to be in the Seiza prison,
12:16preventively.
12:16Anyway, we hope that this does not happen,
12:18because he has a family, he has children,
12:23and we hope that this does not happen either.
12:26Because there are people involved
12:28who sometimes end up in jail too.
12:31No, of course.
12:32That's why we say, take care of this man,
12:34if tomorrow they transfer him here.
12:37We had a clue,
12:39because do you remember that there was a bomb threat
12:42in the Paraguayan court?
12:45So we can't rule out
12:47that there is no Paraguayan connection.
12:49But for me, of course,
12:51I don't know,
12:52I don't doubt it.
12:53For me it is a trunk with a lot of branches
12:56that we are going to start seeing the ramifications.
12:58The theory falls that Ilucio,
13:00we also talked about it the other day,
13:01the money had been given to him in Brazil
13:04and that it did not come out of Argentina,
13:06in front of all this.
13:07It is the version that is given here in Argentina.
13:09Of course.
13:10That is one, and the other issue is,
13:12and we ask the colleague,
13:13what they tell me is that in general
13:16the Paraguayan customs does not put much emphasis
13:19on checking the people who come in to see what they carry.
13:22Why does Cuéder do it?
13:24Suddenly they say, oh no, this one, yes.
13:26Let's check the customs.
13:28Cuéder was marked.
13:30With Diana Valle.
13:32Sorry Diana, what were you going to say?
13:34Yes, yes, actually,
13:36I don't know, actually, yes, it is checked.
13:39A little bit, a little bit,
13:41but it does not imply that it is going to be sold.
13:44But here, particularly in Concordia,
13:47where I am, there are a lot of people
13:49who buy and cross to Paraguay
13:51and do a lot of shopping,
13:53because it is much cheaper,
13:55what is in Mexico and so on.
13:57Yes.
13:59And sometimes it is checked and sometimes it is not.
14:01Now, how confident,
14:03sorry, Diana, how confident
14:05do you have to be to carry it
14:07in a handbag?
14:09Because I have done it many times.
14:11There is also a healthier area.
14:13Some say, yes, some say,
14:15some badly thought,
14:17that the people of the Paraguayan customs,
14:19some were as arranged,
14:21they were friends, of course,
14:23and one day they turned around.
14:25Until they stopped being.
14:27Because a political order came.
14:29Unfortunately, all those scenarios
14:31are possible, all.
14:33Yes, of course, of course.
14:35Well, that's why the show showed,
14:37open the backpack,
14:39there were no doubts.
14:41The photo, the video.
14:43You know what? It was the pink one,
14:45it was López's bag,
14:47it was this senator's bag.
14:49Let's go to the presumption of innocence.
14:51He says it's not money.
14:53No, no, that's ...
14:55Let's see, Senator Abdala is talking.
14:57We also share it with Diana.
14:59As you know, the senator can,
15:01it is a serious matter,
15:03a matter that will be dealt with in the Senate,
15:05and that, well, there are two positions,
15:07or three, let's say,
15:09because the senator's license is there.
15:11It is, by the way, a project
15:13of Unión por la Patria
15:15that asks for the expulsion,
15:17and there is a project
15:19of another political faction
15:21that we understand that
15:23in the face of such a serious event
15:25as the one that was done,
15:27it deserves suspension
15:29with the loss of the funds,
15:31and well, by the way,
15:33to be temporarily separated
15:35from the project of Unión por la Patria,
15:37it is necessary to ask for a dismissal
15:39of Judge Arroyo Salgado
15:41on the case of Cuéllar,
15:43and of prison.
15:45What do you think about this?
15:47I don't know him,
15:49but it seems to me ...
15:51Well, you just told me
15:53that it just happened.
15:55Well, I thank you for the information.
15:57We understand that, precisely,
15:59we do not have to act with anger,
16:01we do not have to act with speculation.
16:03It will be treated as it should
16:05and the senators will have to debate
16:07and see which is the best option.
16:09Can we change the origin of the session?
16:11Can it be modified?
16:13Having the votes,
16:15having the will of the body,
16:17you can include,
16:19in fact, the two thirds,
16:21you can include any issue.
16:23Senator, what is going to happen
16:25with Senator Parrilli?
16:27What is it that you are asking
16:29for Juan Parrilli?
16:31Cuéllar's case is serious,
16:33but Parrilli's case is much more serious.
16:35He is denounced and accused,
16:37already proven in court,
16:39that he has committed the very serious crime
16:41of treason to the country.
16:43Do you have the two thirds?
16:45We will see it in the 90th minute.
16:47My wish is that there is
16:49a hearing in this Senate
16:51and that Senator Cuéllar
16:53is really suspended.
16:55And well, we have also asked
16:57for Senator Parrilli's suspension
16:59and we have the votes.
17:01We know that it is difficult,
17:03but well, we have to try.
17:05Thank you very much.
17:09Well, Senator Abdala's words
17:11are up to there.
17:13You heard it.
17:15Both Cuéllar and Parrilli are suspended.
17:17As it is.
17:19He said, purify the Senate.
17:21Thank you, Paula.
17:23My law in its style,
17:25they have to kick it
17:27You know what I was looking for, Guille?
17:29How much did the assistant's salary
17:31in the Senate cost 2 million pesos?
17:33And she paid the expenses,
17:35which for each department
17:37was 250,000 pesos.
17:39That is, the entire salary
17:41was spent on paying the expenses.
17:43But at least it met the expense payment,
17:45it was not bad.
17:47It is closing.
17:49And it was never delayed.
17:51Of course.
17:53Diana, and this in Entre Rios,
17:55how does the thermometer
17:57of the people there?
17:59Well,
18:01now,
18:03there is a generalized rejection.
18:05Before, the party
18:07that was always part
18:09kept more silence.
18:11But now
18:13they all went out to speak
18:15against Cuéllar.
18:17It is the poisonous stain.
18:19Excuse me?
18:21The poisonous stain happens to be Cuéllar.
18:23And as for the people,
18:25well, yes, in general,
18:27it is an indignation.
18:29Particularly from Concordia,
18:31both with the case of Cuéllar,
18:33who is from here,
18:35as from Xavier Rubel,
18:37as from the same Governor Uri Barri,
18:39they are all from Concordia.
18:41So we are a little stigmatized,
18:43so to speak, in some way,
18:45in terms of these causes,
18:47as well as with the Governor.
18:49The vertiginous rise
18:51of both Cuéllar and his cousin,
18:53of all the relatives,
18:55you have seen it, right?
18:57Let's say in Concordia it was Vox Populi.
18:59Yes, absolutely.
19:01And they are all going to be investigated.
19:03How?
19:05That they are all going to be investigated.
19:07Beyond Cuéllar, beyond Uri Barri,
19:09he was a cashier at a bank,
19:11a very, very, very small locality
19:13near Concordia.
19:15The houses, the mansions,
19:17all that is impressive.
19:19Rubel comes from a family
19:21of politicians,
19:23so it has been a long time
19:25since we have seen this growth.
19:27But yes,
19:29it was him,
19:31as I was saying about Rubel,
19:33who is the cousin,
19:35I come from his house,
19:37and you realize that half of it
19:39is one thing,
19:41and the other half is another thing.
19:43Diana, and the feeling,
19:45or what Campea,
19:47was it always when he integrated Peronist governments
19:49or the two things together?
19:51Of course, one thing takes away the other.
19:53Of course, that's why I'm asking you.
19:55But there are the two opinions
19:57installed between the subterraneans.
19:59Yes, there are the two opinions.
20:01So far, none of the two
20:03are fundamental, right?
20:05No, no, it's long.
20:07But yes, there are the two opinions.
20:09We are seeing the properties
20:11that are appearing,
20:13I keep reading, I keep reading,
20:15that of the subterraneans
20:17and of a system of corruption
20:19oiled within the provincial scheme.
20:21Probably Germán must have received
20:23payments for political favors
20:25with square meters.
20:27This is the reality.
20:29The easiest thing is
20:31some political favor
20:33is paid with square meters,
20:35a construction company,
20:37we were just talking about one of the branches
20:39that could be this trunk,
20:41real estate businesses.
20:43Real estate in construction companies.
20:45Because the construction company
20:47does not invest to sell the apartment,
20:49but there are also infinite cases
20:51of money laundering,
20:53of drug trafficking,
20:55especially in the urban area,
20:57of buildings that you see practically empty.
20:59And this is the case,
21:01this case of Live Santiago,
21:03which they are filling now,
21:05a luxury building,
21:07but the properties that were
21:09indicated did not have people living there.
21:11How many people in the Senate
21:13can explain their way of life?
21:15Let's see, in an Argentina
21:17where people row it,
21:19where the mango has to be won,
21:21I just gave Lucio all the data,
21:23it is revulsive to see
21:25when a senator stops,
21:27who has 200,000 dollars
21:29and one believes that these trips
21:31will be recurrent,
21:33that with total confidence it happened
21:35because everyone had it fixed,
21:37until someone said to him,
21:39well, the former president
21:41and there were five green sticks,
21:43how was Bolso de Lope revulsive,
21:45how was Rosadita revulsive,
21:47and so many other examples
21:49that one can give,
21:51that were filmed, that were recorded
21:53and that were never explained.