El abogado, Sebastián Pardo presentó una denuncia penal contra el titular de la Fundación "La Alameda" y la jueza en el caso por la sustracción de Loan Danilo peña.
Aunque no se conoce personalmente al abogado, se sabe que es de Paso de los Libres y que su padre fue diputado y senador por el peronismo. La justicia deberá ahora evaluar las acusaciones presentadas.
Aunque no se conoce personalmente al abogado, se sabe que es de Paso de los Libres y que su padre fue diputado y senador por el peronismo. La justicia deberá ahora evaluar las acusaciones presentadas.
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00:00This lawyer who denounces Gustavo Vera, do you know him?
00:06Is he a lawyer of any of the defendants, perhaps of the ex-Fundación Dupuy?
00:11Who is he?
00:13No, I don't know the guy, but I understand that he is from Paso de los Libres.
00:20The father, if I'm not mistaken, was a senator, I think, for Peronism.
00:28And this guy, I think, also denounced the judge Posterpenso in the magistrate's council,
00:35a previous denunciation.
00:37Ah, he's a serial denunciator.
00:39No, no, no, stop, stop.
00:41Well, I sent him an email already, telling him if he wants to go public.
00:44I'm not going to say serial denunciator.
00:46Because if, let's see, no, no, if he's denouncing real criminal acts, he's out.
00:51Of course.
00:52It's very good, Diego, it's not a serial denunciation.
00:54It's fine, it's fine, it's understood.
00:57He denounced him.
00:58Of course. After the trial, we'll see if it's real or not.
01:02I have the contact, I'm going to send it to production.
01:05Let's call him, because it's a denunciation.
01:08The denunciation is serious, isn't it, Marcelo?
01:11Against Gustavo Villa.
01:13I didn't read it.
01:15It's circulating on the networks.
01:17I think the first, the header, nothing more.
01:21I didn't read the text.
01:23I don't know what the specific denunciation against Vera refers to.
01:28There was a previous denunciation against Vera,
01:30but I think that was on behalf of Dr. Bompadre, representing Governor Valdez.
01:38Of course, he has a problem with...
01:40Vera has a problem with Valdez.
01:42He took him to justice.
01:44He managed, let's say, to decline what is the competition in current.
01:50They have to come to the courts of the city of Buenos Aires,
01:53because the words of Valdez against the governor were broadcast on this channel,
01:57which is governed by the antennas.
01:59The antenna is in the capital, so this must be processed in the capital.
02:05Sebastián Pardo responds.
02:08I don't know, Diego, what are the reasons for Dr. Pardo's denunciation,
02:13because I don't know what he denounced,
02:16what you are saying about the crimes and so on,
02:20but he is not part of the cause,
02:22so I don't know where he comes from or who he sponsors,
02:26if he sponsors someone, for the denunciation.
02:29The truth is that I found out through the media as well.
02:32Of course, what he says is that Vera,
02:34in connivance with Burlando and one more person that I don't remember now...
02:38The American.
02:39Oh, and the American, of course.
02:41And Nicolás Soria agreed to divert the investigation.
02:46One draws attention to him, because he is a man close to the Pope,
02:50who, historically, through his foundation,
02:53fights against the treaty and has the opposite side.
02:56And he denounces him for that too.
02:58And for that too, for influence trafficking.
03:00The issue is the knowledge that he has, let's say,
03:03that is, how he has it, because we understand that now
03:06so many people are complaining about the issue
03:08that it is not talked about, about the cause, I don't know,
03:12they question the publicity and the rest of the case,
03:15when before they didn't do it,
03:17when before they asked the cameras to say everything that was happening.
03:21So that's why I don't understand what a third party does
03:24that has nothing to do with it,
03:26making a complaint related to this cause.
03:29That's why I don't know, you probably have the document,
03:32you will know if you sponsor someone.
03:34No, no, no, no.
03:36Because to denounce facts like that,
03:38he had to have taken knowledge in some way.
03:41No, I understand that he does it as a citizen,
03:46being a lawyer in the face of an illicit complaint.
03:52That's fine, any citizen can file a complaint
03:55and, well, luck will follow,
03:57that the prosecutor gives it to the one who touches the cause.
04:00Yes, because there is a draw, supposedly.
04:03Well, if you file a complaint in the federal court,
04:05there is not much draw, because there is only one prosecutor,
04:08so he's going to stop there.
04:10Of course.
04:11Can we put the link on the screen?
04:13I just passed a link where they quote Sebastián Pardo
04:16as a denouncer of Judge Poser-Penso.
04:22Ah, well.
04:25Ah, we're talking.
04:26We just talked to Sebastián Pardo.
04:28He thanks the call.
04:29He thanks the call.
04:30Right now he's on the road and can't answer.
04:34But do they always travel during the show?
04:36Yes.
04:37They're always doing something.
04:38It's fine, you have to...
04:39It's fine, what's the problem?
04:41They're always traveling, or are they busy?
04:44Well, yes, people do...
04:45Yes, of course.
04:46They're not on the show.
04:48Can you explain to me, Marcio, a little bit
04:50what happened with the subject of seeing the statement?
04:54Because in one place I heard
04:57that he was asked a lot of questions
04:59and he claimed that he had heard everything
05:03from the media or from the information that came in,
05:06but nothing to make a real, tangible statement
05:12about the case.
05:14And on the other hand, I heard that he said
05:16that what he stated was not reflected in the act.
05:21What is the reality?
05:24Look, yes, it's true.
05:27I don't think I can go on.
05:28The other day, when I was interviewed,
05:30a lot of it was not his contribution,
05:32because not everyone knows him,
05:34not even as a witness,
05:37but by comment, by hypothesis,
05:39by journalistic news.
05:41In other words, for the cause itself,
05:43what he said does not contribute,
05:45because he has no direct knowledge
05:47and does not indicate who he would have
05:49the supposed knowledge of.
05:52That's why I limited myself
05:54to asking two or three specific questions,
05:56and the truth is that I didn't see
05:58that we could get anything
06:01that would be useful for the investigation.
06:03And then, well, the usual thing happens,
06:07the secretary or the secretary
06:09who has to write.
06:11It's an audience where there are many participants,
06:14so transcribing everything,
06:16it's not textual there.
06:17Let's also take into account the connectivity.
06:19Sometimes it's not heard well.
06:21So what he transcribes in the paper,
06:24and the witness,
06:26who declares in a federal police station
06:30or a federal judge,
06:32is sent by mail,
06:34the sub-tape is called,
06:36the one on paper,
06:37so that he reads it,
06:39ratifies it, rectifies it,
06:41if that's what he said.
06:43And regardless of that,
06:45there is a recording,
06:47as I explained before,
06:49that is the support to which you turn
06:51if there is a difference.
06:53Or the witness says,
06:55I didn't say that,
06:57the tape is reviewed,
06:59and then what the witness really said is put on.
07:02The recording is also valid.
07:04That's been the case for many years
07:06in federal justice,
07:08to avoid all this transcription,
07:11and they have to be correcting.
07:13Do you know anything about the statement of the expert?
07:17Supposedly he was declaring today.
07:20Yes, he had two dates.
07:22They notified him on the 30th,
07:25personally,
07:27the two hearings,
07:29and she notified the judge by email today
07:32that she couldn't because of personal matters,
07:35so the subpoena is firm,
07:37that for Monday, 4.
07:39For Monday, 4.
07:41Can Maria Luisa Lescano contribute?
07:43This expert who arrived,
07:45we don't know how,
07:47she says,
07:49she called me,
07:51she arrived in Corrientes on the first days
07:53of the search for Lohan,
07:55and she reported some striking episodes,
07:57like she spent several days doing nothing
07:59because they didn't allow her to enter the territory,
08:02but then Rafa Palacios
08:04contributed several photographs of her,
08:06really in a situation of total confidence
08:08with the other officers of the police station
08:11on July 9th.
08:13Some speak of a link
08:15with Minister Patricia Bullrich,
08:18Minister of Security,
08:20who was also in Corrientes,
08:22very active,
08:24she said she would be at all disposal
08:26of this investigation,
08:28and also some lost complaints
08:30that have come to us
08:32about what happened as a military official.
08:34It is true what she told you yesterday,
08:36I'm going to abstain
08:38from making an advance,
08:40if it is true,
08:42obviously,
08:44then we will find out,
08:46because if she is telling you
08:48that she has a daughter
08:50hospitalized with leukemia,
08:52and that she is focused on that,
08:54I think it's fantastic,
08:56I think it's fantastic.
08:58Unquestionable.
09:00Unquestionable,
09:02nothing to question,
09:04nothing to talk about,
09:06and that is the time
09:08that she has to wait
09:10to declare.
09:12If what she said is true,
09:14I think,
09:16from my side,
09:18I'm going to abstain
09:20from any comment,
09:22because it exceeds anything,
09:24to have a child in that state,
09:26hospitalized, forget it,
09:28there is no chance.
09:30Let's circumscribe to what is in the file,
09:32Luis Alescano, who analyzes
09:34a series of signatures,
09:36Marcelo,
09:38that she does, a graphological
09:40expertise, I understand what it is.
09:42Does that document exist?
09:44Yes, look,
09:46many things are circulating
09:48that they attribute to her,
09:50but I cut it out,
09:52I mean, I didn't know her,
09:54I found out through her existence,
09:56and I don't know how,
09:58surely because of this,
10:00constantly
10:02with you and in the news,
10:04she contacted me,
10:06clarifying
10:08that she had not said
10:10as the media were saying
10:12about
10:14the non-presence of children
10:16in Logan, in Laranjal,
10:18and others that she did not say.
10:20So I tell her, look,
10:22I don't know her,
10:24I don't know what she did,
10:26the only thing I'm going to ask her is her data,
10:28I'm going to tell the judge
10:30to quote her as a witness,
10:32and you will have the opportunity to contribute.